If you get the opportunity, can you do this video with RAM and also GM. You did a great job and knowing the differences within the brand helps when buying.
I wouldn't mind paying 61,000 for the STX package. It give my enough upgraded features without going way overboard. Thanks JD great information on the chassis cabs vs. the pickup.
The shop where I work has an F550 cab and chassis with a flatbed on it, carries and hauls everything was out on it but does ride like a tank when not loaded
When I ordered my 2015 F-350 Diesel Dually Platinum with every available upgrade and option, other than the roof, the sticker was over $70K. That was in January of 2015. I didn't receive the truck until the end of March that year. That included the upgraded rear end, 5th. wheel, tow package, camper package, etc., everything that Ford had available at the time. That vehicle was terrible. It was the only time I spent an insane amount of money on a vehicle and the experience has made it that I will probably never do it again. Prior to that I had a 2010 F-150 that was fantastic. The Dually F-350 was in the shop too many times and the electronics seemed to malfunction in the heat. Causing the vehicle to not run. Both rear windows "fell" into the door linings within 3 days of eachother because the truck is designed with what are essentially large rubber bands that hold the glass up. They can snap when your truck is off and parked and it causes the window to just slide down. You can't even slide them up by hand and lock them into place. What a horrible design. The truck was never beaten or pushed too hard and only had 34k miles at 4 1/2 years old when I finally sold it. With the advent of aluminum beds, etc. I have lost my faith in these trucks. The ridiculous 5 1/2 ft. bed on the newer trucks are proof that Ford is catering to the suburban person that wants to be one of the cool kids and not people that use their trucks for work. Sure, you can pay through the nose for a F-350 that does the equivalent of the older F-150's but look at the cost. Hey, I get it, they are catering to the market trends. The problem is that it will (and is) contributing to a decline in quality of their pickup trucks actually being trucks.
Great information. A Hot Shotter would be nuts to get all the bells and whistles and then put 100K miles a year on. I like the STX at $60K sounds like a great value.
i got an 04 f350 chassis cab v10 for 5 grand and its setup to pull just under 26000 pounds, as high as it can be before jumping to cdl weight. Mine has somewhere around 11 spirngs on each side. Its got a commercial 5th wheel plate and setup. With no weight in it the ride is not smooth at all lol you can feel every bump in the road but for what i paid i couldnt find anything even close in comparison that could pull the 40ft fifth wheel we have.
Am glad i found your channel, it clears up a whole lot of confusions i had regarding these pick ups, thanks for your time and keep them coming when u can.
The over engineering of trucks that are supposed to be work vehicles is going to be the death of their reputation. They haven't learned from decades ago when they built things that "on paper" worked but didn't work in the real world. It's like a person that runs on a treadmill that finally hits a real trail and realizes that there is a huge difference between running indoors in a controlled environment and running on rocks and sideway grades, without A/C, Heat, etc..
Another thing to consider when buying a chassis cab you will not be getting the 475 hp diesel its been derated severely, sometimes a pickup truck bed delete is a better option on the F350’s
Great Vid JD, Thanks for sharing. Pulled my campers for many years with a f350 7.3 PSD chassis cab. The biggest pains were two things. Getting different springs to make it ride better and then the very limited aftermarket support for chassis cab trucks. Things from exhaust, hitches and flatbeds are harder to find and generally more expensive.
Great video , very informative, I really liked all the attention to detail regarding the differences between the trucks that aren’t so apparent to those of us that may not even have known to look for. Suscribed and liked.
Maybe Ford has additional cooling fans for the F-550 and that is why the grills are the same. Plus since those will more than likely be service trucks might see a lot of idle time, so auxiliary cooling fans might make sense. I would have loved to see the interior of the F-350, for me that is a more affordable price keeping a F-350 in the $60K range, everyone is doing reviews on top of the line trucks which some like me don't have $80-100K laying around. Great review, would love to see some more videos of the middle range trim package trucks.
I don't believe Ford has put anything further out regarding the F-600 since announcing it. I've been looking for info intermittently and haven't seen anything come out this year.
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My first-hand experience between standard rear wheel or dually is I highly recommend duallys they ride better 😊 and they are 150% safer when it come too safety with have the dual tires. I love my F350 Powerstroke King Ranch dually 2008 I have the 4:30 gear radio 4wd fully deleted
I had an old flat bed as a extra vehicle. I loved it. I didn't care about the paint on the steel bed and I could load a sxs atv on the bed. On 18 wheeler's tractor I believe it's called double frame
Nice production done, n I learnt something. I got a ford 7.3 2wheel drive dually n I got to put air bags in her because the 1161 Lance camper makes her squat a bit more then I like n I also wana pull a small open car hauler behind with the 2 Harleys or 1 vette n she will have her hands full I'm sure n that keeps it right around the 10.000lb mark for it. I LOVE THOSE 550s
These Are Not Trucks, These Are Full Size Utility Cars (Chassis Cabs) They’re Regular, As Known As A “Pickup” Seating Number Code A Single Seat = Independent Couple Of Seats = Student (A Driver Seat & A Seat For A Trainer) Triple Seater = Single Row Car (Left, Right Or Both Hand Drivings) Triple Door/Seater = A Triple Seater Where Each Seat Gets A Door Four Seater = Single Row Car Four Door/Seater = A Four Seater Where Each Seat Has A Door 5 Seater 6 Seater 7 Seater 8 Seater 9 Seater And So Forth Standard Chassis Cabs 7:00 Student (2 Seats) / Starter (3 Or 4 Seats) Chassis Cab Singular Space Chassis Cab (Like That Of A 90s Ford F-150 Chassis) Singular Access Chassis Cab (Singular Space Chassis Cab With Suicide Doors For The Spacing) Singular Space Chassis Cab (Conventional Door) As Known As “Double Cab” 7:55 Singular Combination Chassis Cab (As Known As A “Crew Cab”) Singular Full Size Chassis Cab (As Known As A “CrewMax”) Extended Chassis Cabs Semiquintuple Chassis Cab (A Singular Cab, A Whole & A Half = 2½) Triple Chassis Cab (3 Rows Of Seats) Semiseptuple Chassis Cab (3½ Rows Of Seats) Quad Chassis Cab (4 Rows Of Seats) Quadly Full-Size Utility Cars And So Forth 7:50 That Is A UGV (Utility Goods Vehicle) = Lorry Car
You missed one very important side note the cab chassis’s are de-tuned somewhere in the 130 horsepower which is a bit. I own a F350 pickup and also a F450 cab chassis it’s noticeable but it still pulls very well.
I wish the big 3 wouldn’t change things engine wise in the chassis cab, I do not feel like the chassis cabs are more reliable, my 450 over heated constantly (16) and my 250 6.7 king ranch never over heated with the same towing loads up the hills where I live. And no ladies and gentlemen the engine difference is not only tuning there are also different components
Jason Larsen nah both our 450 fleet trucks did this with high demand, I honestly don’t believe they do what they do for reliability I believe it’s to save money. The hills my way are a killer but in my opinion I’ve never had a issue with any diesels other than the chassis cab diesels with the same motor
Thank you for this video. I’m in the market for a new truck to tow my 40ft gooseneck with tractor and a couple of attachments. I didn’t know that there was an actual difference between them in terms of capabilities until now. I’m leaning more towards a single cab or extended cab dually which I’m pretty sure both the 350 and 450 with truck bed would do just fine. A flatbed would be nice though
They probably don't put the "high flow" grille on the chassis cab trucks because they don't make any power. The only thing I don't know if you touched on was the towing capacity variances that go opposite of those payload capacities. Tow ratings favor pickups as much as payload ratings favor chassis cabs.
What about warranty issues with the cab and chassis. My dad bought 2 GM 1 TONS in '77 and'80. Paper work stated no warrenty due to not being a complete pick up.
I don't plan on purchasing a truck (especially a modern Powerstorke) at all. I was just curious if the Chassis Cab was wider than the pickup. Video was interesting so I completed it.
Very good that's exactly what I was looking for. "F 550 chassis cab". Is there such a version of that WITHOUT the king cab? I need the bare rails as long as possible. All the way up into the area where the king cab is. 🤔
No sir. Unless you completely swap the suspension out, simply adding airbags does not improve the ride quality of a truck. They are designed to level out a load.
@@benjamin-8403 Short of Ford offering an airride cab upgrade there's much that can be done for the unloaded ride quality. But that is a whole new can of worms too. A comercial style seat may be a simpler modification. The Volvo seat that floats front to back is a little odd at first but I do miss it. They would let you tune the seat to your body weight irregardless of the load.
We've tried mounting our aftermarket bodies/lifts on F550's. They have failed miserably. Cracking the frame right behind the cab in testing. Have stopped manufacturing them with Ford chassis. Dodge only going down the assembly line for now.
What kind of lift was it scissor, telescopic ??? Im curious, also what's the possible reason for the cracking isn't there a reinforcement there ??? Thanks
I can say from experience building service trucks and heavy work trucks for a living those F450-550s will beat you worse than any other make/model. Recently had a 5500 Ram get a 14ft service body with a crane and it felt better on the road than anything. This was while it weighed 19,000lbs empty.
What about the wiring for trailer lights and service body or flat bed applications. I think the wiring for a service or flat bed is different from regular bed pickup.
No unless it was just a cobbled together job. The regular trucks have bends in the frame (to where a C&C truck has a flat straight frame) and a wider frame then the C&C trucks. So not only would it have to be shimmed in some spots it would have to be a whole new mount system as well.
I drive a 97 f350 4x4 c n c now replacing my 94 f350 dually that got totaled when a guy ran a light in front of me. The c n c has a 11k gvwr vs the pu had a 10k. In 97 the ford dually pu werent offered as 4x4 but c n c were offered. The pu had like 4 or 5 leafs that were 3 inches wide. My c n c has 12 that are 2 1/4 inches wide. 10 was offered and then a 2 or 4 leaf overload. Mine has 12 plus 4. I put new main leafs and hangers ubolts shackles as one hanger was gone and others not far behind. I pull a 13k pintle and put around 1.5 to 2k tongue wieght (guessing) dont touch overloads. Wanna get a pu camper for when go to tractor shows have to build a custom frame to mount it on my flatbed on my trk
From you experience wld u recommend a c&c or a pu,,,??? To carry brings and dirt on the back , the only issue with the conf is the extra soence of buying a flat utility bed a oh all ready has one Which one do u like more and why?
Great video. I bought a 7.3l 2020 f350 drw stx regular cab same as the white pickup. I thought they sold me a chasis cab upfitted with a pickup box bc on my odometer statement it said cab and chasis under "type". Which wasn't what I wanted because of hp difference etc. So i didn't know how to tell the difference until this video. Im pretty sure I have a f350 pickup now. I wish you got under the f350 drw pickup so i can see if the frame looked like mine . I have a 14k gvwr and 7101 payload.
Now there you go. You get f550 sale your gorgeous f450 to enjoy the journey that will fix there problem. Because you sold it to them they won’t have to worry about that new fifth wheel they want. Stop with the robust go with much more heavier duty. Love video.
Would love to see a vid about using a dually as a daily driver. I'm retired now...need a new truck but cant afford a new dually and keeping a daily driver. Don't drive as much these days so maybe it would work?
Might be a dumb question but can you get a chassis cab F350 with a regular truck bed on it? Would like the extra payload for chassis but still want a regular bed. Thanks for this comparison video. I'd like to see the diff between 350/350 chassis/450/450 chassis/550 video some time. Also seeing this for the ram and denali lines would be great too. Love your channel and appreciate all you do.
Thanks for doing this, its nearly impossible to get information on the commercial vehicles. Are most of the vehicles in this video 2019 vehicles? I'm looking for information on the 2021 E350 cutaway Van's and its scarce. Always a thumbs up video 👍
Doesn't the 2016 and older 350/450 pick up truck also have box type frames to the rear of the cab then transition to C channel to the rear of the truck?
2021 Lance 1172 is new and i just saw the blue print and .... i dont know what to say about it... it looks big... too big to be true, like a bad april fools joke. Could you find one somewhere near you and do a video on it? I want to make sure Im not going crazy here because there is no way a truck bed camper has that much stuff in it.
With a narrower frame on a C&C, how much less is the distance between the outside rear wheels? My wife doesn’t want a dually because she’ll clip curbs on turns, but maybe not if a C&C is significantly narrower?
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Why are chassis cab rated to tow much less than their pickup truck counterparts? Is this because of different turbos or different certification methods (chassis vs dyno)? For example, the 2014 f350 6.7l drw 4x2 chassis cab is rated to tow 16,100 fifth wheel where as the same pickup truck is rated to tow 23,900 fifth wheel. Will the chassis actually be able to tow 23,900 but it is just certified different because of EPA? Thanks. -Interested 2014 chassis cab owner
Great video, what is the power differences between the 350 chassis cab and pick up truck, do they still de-rate them? If so, how do they do it, and can it be changed? Thanks
With regard to the chassis cab dually grill. Aren’t the chassis cab trucks derated in terms of power? If so, this may explain the SRW style grill. Just doesn’t need the additional air flow or it’s a consumer marketing gimmick to begin with.
I hate how in the work truck models they come with the clear windows on every window... feels like I’m driving in a fishbowl! I’m a 5% tint kinda guy lol and i would also NEVER get carpet floors in a work truck!
How come I can't get a pick up truck bed on an F-350 chassis cab. I talked to a fleet rep for Ford and they say it is different the a pick up truck model. Explain tgat please? To me it looks the same length, the frame is just thicker on the chassis, so I get a better payload , which I need for a heavy truck camper such as a Arctic Fox 1140 which is 5500 pounds fully loaded. I need tge extra GVWR to get a bumper and winch etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated...
I know this isn’t the right video... but I’m look9ng for one of your videos, it’s a toyhauler with what seemed to be a tent on the back patio. Can anyone help??
He reviewed the Luxe 48FB. Go to www.luxefifthwheel.com. I happen to be shopping the same RV. BTBRV did the review May 22, 2019. Search Luxe Toy Hauler and you should find it.
I have a 2017 F-350 chassis cab similar to the one you show but I brough used and the payload and tire sticker no came with it. How I can find the exacly payload for my specific truck?
Due to the quarantine we have a new drinking game. Robust is one drink, massive is two drinks. Love your videos, keep them coming.
Significantly 😂
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If you get the opportunity, can you do this video with RAM and also GM. You did a great job and knowing the differences within the brand helps when buying.
I couldn’t stop looking at how close they parked that F550 to the rear bumper of that explorer lol
I wouldn't mind paying 61,000 for the STX package. It give my enough upgraded features without going way overboard. Thanks JD great information on the chassis cabs vs. the pickup.
The shop where I work has an F550 cab and chassis with a flatbed on it, carries and hauls everything was out on it but does ride like a tank when not loaded
When I ordered my 2015 F-350 Diesel Dually Platinum with every available upgrade and option, other than the roof, the sticker was over $70K. That was in January of 2015. I didn't receive the truck until the end of March that year. That included the upgraded rear end, 5th. wheel, tow package, camper package, etc., everything that Ford had available at the time. That vehicle was terrible. It was the only time I spent an insane amount of money on a vehicle and the experience has made it that I will probably never do it again. Prior to that I had a 2010 F-150 that was fantastic. The Dually F-350 was in the shop too many times and the electronics seemed to malfunction in the heat. Causing the vehicle to not run. Both rear windows "fell" into the door linings within 3 days of eachother because the truck is designed with what are essentially large rubber bands that hold the glass up. They can snap when your truck is off and parked and it causes the window to just slide down. You can't even slide them up by hand and lock them into place. What a horrible design. The truck was never beaten or pushed too hard and only had 34k miles at 4 1/2 years old when I finally sold it. With the advent of aluminum beds, etc. I have lost my faith in these trucks. The ridiculous 5 1/2 ft. bed on the newer trucks are proof that Ford is catering to the suburban person that wants to be one of the cool kids and not people that use their trucks for work. Sure, you can pay through the nose for a F-350 that does the equivalent of the older F-150's but look at the cost. Hey, I get it, they are catering to the market trends. The problem is that it will (and is) contributing to a decline in quality of their pickup trucks actually being trucks.
Very enjoyable to watch your flow of presentation and obvious knowledge (including the "brass tacks" info) of subject are refreshing.Thank You
Great video wish you would have shown the sticker price for the 450 & 550
Great information. A Hot Shotter would be nuts to get all the bells and whistles and then put 100K miles a year on. I like the STX at $60K sounds like a great value.
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i got an 04 f350 chassis cab v10 for 5 grand and its setup to pull just under 26000 pounds, as high as it can be before jumping to cdl weight. Mine has somewhere around 11 spirngs on each side. Its got a commercial 5th wheel plate and setup. With no weight in it the ride is not smooth at all lol you can feel every bump in the road but for what i paid i couldnt find anything even close in comparison that could pull the 40ft fifth wheel we have.
Thank's a lot for uploading about chassis cab truck Sir. Very informative.
Am glad i found your channel, it clears up a whole lot of confusions i had regarding these pick ups, thanks for your time and keep them coming when u can.
Being the cab/chassis trucks are detuned, they probably don't require as much airflow. Less strain on the engine less heat created.
That could be it
The over engineering of trucks that are supposed to be work vehicles is going to be the death of their reputation. They haven't learned from decades ago when they built things that "on paper" worked but didn't work in the real world. It's like a person that runs on a treadmill that finally hits a real trail and realizes that there is a huge difference between running indoors in a controlled environment and running on rocks and sideway grades, without A/C, Heat, etc..
The grill may be different of the chasis cab because the engine is derated for longevity so air requirements may be less.
Those engines are derated on the commercial truck.
Do a video on that please
Another thing to consider when buying a chassis cab you will not be getting the 475 hp diesel its been derated severely, sometimes a pickup truck bed delete is a better option on the F350’s
Great Vid JD, Thanks for sharing.
Pulled my campers for many years with a f350 7.3 PSD chassis cab. The biggest pains were two things. Getting different springs to make it ride better and then the very limited aftermarket support for chassis cab trucks. Things from exhaust, hitches and flatbeds are harder to find and generally more expensive.
Great video , very informative, I really liked all the attention to detail regarding the differences between the trucks that aren’t so apparent to those of us that may not even have known to look for. Suscribed and liked.
Maybe Ford has additional cooling fans for the F-550 and that is why the grills are the same. Plus since those will more than likely be service trucks might see a lot of idle time, so auxiliary cooling fans might make sense. I would have loved to see the interior of the F-350, for me that is a more affordable price keeping a F-350 in the $60K range, everyone is doing reviews on top of the line trucks which some like me don't have $80-100K laying around. Great review, would love to see some more videos of the middle range trim package trucks.
BTBRV, Have you ever seen a F-600? They are said to be a heavier duty version of the f-550. I believe they are 21,000 GVRW?
I don't believe Ford has put anything further out regarding the F-600 since announcing it. I've been looking for info intermittently and haven't seen anything come out this year.
If I am not mistaken you can order the ambulance package in the 350 to 550 and get air ride suspension. same with the Chevy and Dodge.
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My first-hand experience between standard rear wheel or dually is I highly recommend duallys they ride better 😊 and they are 150% safer when it come too safety with have the dual tires.
I love my F350 Powerstroke King Ranch dually 2008 I have the 4:30 gear radio 4wd fully deleted
Great vid, but should cover tow ratings, most think if get the c&c it tows more but actually less tow rating, biggest reason i went f450 with 40k gcvw
Great a complete explanation
I had an old flat bed as a extra vehicle. I loved it. I didn't care about the paint on the steel bed and I could load a sxs atv on the bed.
On 18 wheeler's tractor I believe it's called double frame
Impressive knowledge of these big trucks.
Outstanding review!
Well, you taught me something new today so my mom can't get mad at me for being unproductive and lazy 🤣🤣🤣
Nice production done, n I learnt something. I got a ford 7.3 2wheel drive dually n I got to put air bags in her because the 1161 Lance camper makes her squat a bit more then I like n I also wana pull a small open car hauler behind with the 2 Harleys or 1 vette n she will have her hands full I'm sure n that keeps it right around the 10.000lb mark for it. I LOVE THOSE 550s
These Are Not Trucks, These Are Full Size Utility Cars (Chassis Cabs) They’re Regular, As Known As A “Pickup”
Seating Number Code
A Single Seat = Independent
Couple Of Seats = Student (A Driver Seat & A Seat For A Trainer)
Triple Seater = Single Row Car (Left, Right Or Both Hand Drivings)
Triple Door/Seater = A Triple Seater Where Each Seat Gets A Door
Four Seater = Single Row Car
Four Door/Seater = A Four Seater Where Each Seat Has A Door
5 Seater
6 Seater
7 Seater
8 Seater
9 Seater
And So Forth
Standard Chassis Cabs
7:00 Student (2 Seats) / Starter (3 Or 4 Seats) Chassis Cab
Singular Space Chassis Cab (Like That Of A 90s Ford F-150 Chassis)
Singular Access Chassis Cab (Singular Space Chassis Cab With Suicide Doors For The Spacing)
Singular Space Chassis Cab (Conventional Door) As Known As “Double Cab”
7:55 Singular Combination Chassis Cab (As Known As A “Crew Cab”)
Singular Full Size Chassis Cab (As Known As A “CrewMax”)
Extended Chassis Cabs
Semiquintuple Chassis Cab (A Singular Cab, A Whole & A Half = 2½)
Triple Chassis Cab (3 Rows Of Seats)
Semiseptuple Chassis Cab (3½ Rows Of Seats)
Quad Chassis Cab (4 Rows Of Seats) Quadly Full-Size Utility Cars
And So Forth
7:50 That Is A UGV (Utility Goods Vehicle) = Lorry Car
You missed one very important side note the cab chassis’s are de-tuned somewhere in the 130 horsepower which is a bit. I own a F350 pickup and also a F450 cab chassis it’s noticeable but it still pulls very well.
If I'm correct theres also component changes in the engine
I wish the big 3 wouldn’t change things engine wise in the chassis cab, I do not feel like the chassis cabs are more reliable, my 450 over heated constantly (16) and my 250 6.7 king ranch never over heated with the same towing loads up the hills where I live. And no ladies and gentlemen the engine difference is not only tuning there are also different components
RobsPower Channel could it be possible your f450 had a mechanical issue?
Jason Larsen nah both our 450 fleet trucks did this with high demand, I honestly don’t believe they do what they do for reliability I believe it’s to save money. The hills my way are a killer but in my opinion I’ve never had a issue with any diesels other than the chassis cab diesels with the same motor
Thank you for this video. I’m in the market for a new truck to tow my 40ft gooseneck with tractor and a couple of attachments. I didn’t know that there was an actual difference between them in terms of capabilities until now. I’m leaning more towards a single cab or extended cab dually which I’m pretty sure both the 350 and 450 with truck bed would do just fine. A flatbed would be nice though
They probably don't put the "high flow" grille on the chassis cab trucks because they don't make any power. The only thing I don't know if you touched on was the towing capacity variances that go opposite of those payload capacities. Tow ratings favor pickups as much as payload ratings favor chassis cabs.
Power is also D rated in the cab and chassis. That is something to consider.
What about warranty issues with the cab and chassis. My dad bought 2 GM 1 TONS in '77 and'80. Paper work stated no warrenty due to not being a complete pick up.
I don't plan on purchasing a truck (especially a modern Powerstorke) at all. I was just curious if the Chassis Cab was wider than the pickup. Video was interesting so I completed it.
Funny... while watching this video i walked outside and counted the leafs on my 08 F350 C&C and it had alot of leafs like that F550...
VERY well done !
Very good that's exactly what I was looking for. "F 550 chassis cab". Is there such a version of that WITHOUT the king cab? I need the bare rails as long as possible. All the way up into the area where the king cab is. 🤔
Would it help to put airbags on the f550 as far as ride quality goes?
No sir. Unless you completely swap the suspension out, simply adding airbags does not improve the ride quality of a truck. They are designed to level out a load.
@@BTBRVReviews that sounds expensive 🤔 lol, thanks for the reply boss
@@BTBRVReviews maybe you can do a video of what it would all entail to get a 550 with a more comfortable ride and all the cost associated with it.
Daniel Garcia put a utility box on it and load it up like it’s intended...don’t buy a 550 and complain about the ride...
@@benjamin-8403 Short of Ford offering an airride cab upgrade there's much that can be done for the unloaded ride quality. But that is a whole new can of worms too. A comercial style seat may be a simpler modification. The Volvo seat that floats front to back is a little odd at first but I do miss it. They would let you tune the seat to your body weight irregardless of the load.
We've tried mounting our aftermarket bodies/lifts on F550's. They have failed miserably. Cracking the frame right behind the cab in testing. Have stopped manufacturing them with Ford chassis. Dodge only going down the assembly line for now.
What kind of lift was it scissor, telescopic ???
Im curious, also what's the possible reason for the cracking isn't there a reinforcement there
???
Thanks
I can say from experience building service trucks and heavy work trucks for a living those F450-550s will beat you worse than any other make/model. Recently had a 5500 Ram get a 14ft service body with a crane and it felt better on the road than anything. This was while it weighed 19,000lbs empty.
What about the wiring for trailer lights and service body or flat bed applications. I think the wiring for a service or flat bed is different from regular bed pickup.
Very informative, one thing i always wondered about was can an F350 pickup bed be installed on a F350 cab and chassis?
No unless it was just a cobbled together job. The regular trucks have bends in the frame (to where a C&C truck has a flat straight frame) and a wider frame then the C&C trucks. So not only would it have to be shimmed in some spots it would have to be a whole new mount system as well.
I drive a 97 f350 4x4 c n c now replacing my 94 f350 dually that got totaled when a guy ran a light in front of me. The c n c has a 11k gvwr vs the pu had a 10k. In 97 the ford dually pu werent offered as 4x4 but c n c were offered. The pu had like 4 or 5 leafs that were 3 inches wide. My c n c has 12 that are 2 1/4 inches wide. 10 was offered and then a 2 or 4 leaf overload. Mine has 12 plus 4. I put new main leafs and hangers ubolts shackles as one hanger was gone and others not far behind. I pull a 13k pintle and put around 1.5 to 2k tongue wieght (guessing) dont touch overloads. Wanna get a pu camper for when go to tractor shows have to build a custom frame to mount it on my flatbed on my trk
From you experience wld u recommend a c&c or a pu,,,???
To carry brings and dirt on the back , the only issue with the conf is the extra soence of buying a flat utility bed a oh all ready has one
Which one do u like more and why?
thanks. can't even get this much info off their website
Great video. I bought a 7.3l 2020 f350 drw stx regular cab same as the white pickup. I thought they sold me a chasis cab upfitted with a pickup box bc on my odometer statement it said cab and chasis under "type". Which wasn't what I wanted because of hp difference etc. So i didn't know how to tell the difference until this video. Im pretty sure I have a f350 pickup now. I wish you got under the f350 drw pickup so i can see if the frame looked like mine . I have a 14k gvwr and 7101 payload.
Now there you go. You get f550 sale your gorgeous f450 to enjoy the journey that will fix there problem. Because you sold it to them they won’t have to worry about that new fifth wheel they want. Stop with the robust go with much more heavier duty. Love video.
Id love to take one of those chassis and put a 79 pu cab on it.
Would love to see a vid about using a dually as a daily driver. I'm retired now...need a new truck but cant afford a new dually and keeping a daily driver. Don't drive as much these days so maybe it would work?
Could you do a video on the differences between an e350 chassis vs f350?
Might be a dumb question but can you get a chassis cab F350 with a regular truck bed on it? Would like the extra payload for chassis but still want a regular bed. Thanks for this comparison video. I'd like to see the diff between 350/350 chassis/450/450 chassis/550 video some time. Also seeing this for the ram and denali lines would be great too. Love your channel and appreciate all you do.
I have a 1982 gmc c30 cab and chassis...would it be possible to mount a regular dually bed on the frame?
Thanks for doing this, its nearly impossible to get information on the commercial vehicles. Are most of the vehicles in this video 2019 vehicles? I'm looking for information on the 2021 E350 cutaway Van's and its scarce. Always a thumbs up video 👍
They are all 2020
Doesn't the 2016 and older 350/450 pick up truck also have box type frames to the rear of the cab then transition to C channel to the rear of the truck?
2021 Lance 1172 is new and i just saw the blue print and .... i dont know what to say about it... it looks big... too big to be true, like a bad april fools joke. Could you find one somewhere near you and do a video on it? I want to make sure Im not going crazy here because there is no way a truck bed camper has that much stuff in it.
With a narrower frame on a C&C, how much less is the distance between the outside rear wheels? My wife doesn’t want a dually because she’ll clip curbs on turns, but maybe not if a C&C is significantly narrower?
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What 1 would be better if u were looking for 1 that be 16ft tipper & a cattle body as all in 1
Which is better for towing a 5th wheel trailer, 2 or 4 wheel drive trucks?
Why are chassis cab rated to tow much less than their pickup truck counterparts? Is this because of different turbos or different certification methods (chassis vs dyno)? For example, the 2014 f350 6.7l drw 4x2 chassis cab is rated to tow 16,100 fifth wheel where as the same pickup truck is rated to tow 23,900 fifth wheel. Will the chassis actually be able to tow 23,900 but it is just certified different because of EPA? Thanks. -Interested 2014 chassis cab owner
Great video, what is the power differences between the 350 chassis cab and pick up truck, do they still de-rate them? If so, how do they do it, and can it be changed? Thanks
What are the differences in width of the rear axle assemblies?
can you drive the truck with just a Chassis on it and nothing bolted on the back?
Well done.
What is the difference between the Ford chassis 2008 and 2018
With regard to the chassis cab dually grill. Aren’t the chassis cab trucks derated in terms of power? If so, this may explain the SRW style grill. Just doesn’t need the additional air flow or it’s a consumer marketing gimmick to begin with.
Your video was great thank you
Auto industries are just crazy to think those are worth 60k or more. And crazier yet the people that buy them at those high prices.
please do more review on this f550 and ram 5500
Hi there.
What the difference between 2018 f350 and 2008 F250 .
Doll kappa.
Do the cheapo grills come with a de-rated engine?
I hate how in the work truck models they come with the clear windows on every window... feels like I’m driving in a fishbowl! I’m a 5% tint kinda guy lol and i would also NEVER get carpet floors in a work truck!
I have a question for you, will a standard dually pick up bed from a
new f-450 fit on a cab and chassis truck?
no, im pretty sure the frames are different
Is it possible to use the 2008 f350 on my body 2018
Can you explain the speed and power de-rating, for those chassis cabs. Can they remove it?
danclapper626 from what I know they put a different (inferior) turbo on the c&c making the lower power. Main reason I’ll never get a c&c
How come I can't get a pick up truck bed on an F-350 chassis cab. I talked to a fleet rep for Ford and they say it is different the a pick up truck model. Explain tgat please? To me it looks the same length, the frame is just thicker on the chassis, so I get a better payload , which I need for a heavy truck camper such as a Arctic Fox 1140 which is 5500 pounds fully loaded. I need tge extra GVWR to get a bumper and winch etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated...
The frame rails are designed completely different in terms of design, width, and mounting locations.
What about tires surely that f550 has heavier duty tires than load range e
How much does the f350 run without the box
I have a Ford 2018 f250 crimped
Significantly.
3-5 revolutions of the driveline sounds the tire one revolution? That doesn’t seem right
Can you do the f600 please???
Man I think the f550 has a reinforced frame....lol
I know this isn’t the right video... but I’m look9ng for one of your videos, it’s a toyhauler with what seemed to be a tent on the back patio. Can anyone help??
He reviewed the Luxe 48FB. Go to www.luxefifthwheel.com. I happen to be shopping the same RV.
BTBRV did the review May 22, 2019. Search Luxe Toy Hauler and you should find it.
Umm didn’t you already do this video a couple years ago...
You already made this video!
I did a F350 vs an F450
@@BTBRVReviews can you do a video like this but its Ford vs Chevy vs Ram?
Those trucks are 2020?
Yes
I have a 2017 F-350 chassis cab similar to the one you show but I brough used and the payload and tire sticker no came with it. How I can find the exacly payload for my specific truck?
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I CANT STAND that they detune cab and chassis...how dare them..ill take all my power please
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