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DOUBLE DECEPTION How many takes did I go through? Trick montages also won't reveal this. I did one warm-up set to determine my gap. The shots done in the first half were done in a single take. The shots done at the end were done in a single take, but after one failed attempt in which 3 arrows went off the gold, and two off-centre shots at the end were also removed. Again, it's easy to make yourself look good with the right editing.
Technically you could take a first-day beginner and remove all the non-golds after each end until you have all arrows in the 10 ring. Might take a while but it's "photo worthy" when you're done, even if it's a total lie.
@Rad Derry Very good shooters (worlds best class) tend to target a bit off from their arrows in the target at low distances, because otherwise they would destroy their arrows most of the time. GIven that a single arrow for competitions can cost easily around 50 Euro / 50 Dollar, this is due to the immense cost. And in the life of an archer, you are mostly guaranteed to do a "Robin Hood Shot" at least one time. It is just the immense number of arrows shot that results in a lucky "hit your own arrow". An Beginner to Advanced archer shoots around 60 to 80 Arrows twice a week - that's a huge number in ones life.
@Rad Derry I think those extremely expensive arrows can only be used by the best of the world. A normal user wouldn't feel a difference. But not every profi archer uses them? I don't know. I only know that arrows can be quite expensive. It is about consistency and the faster the arrow flies, the less it is exposed to wind and other factors. To get the last 2% more energy you pay such a high price. For the terminology I must apologize. I am native german and don't know the correct english words. Well, I am shooting olympic recurve. I have to hold 28 pounds of force and a bow with a weight of around 2kg with only one completele stretched arm for around 10 seconds per arrow. Given I am not trained at all (never done any sports, working in software developing) this is no wonder. I would really like to go shooting more often, but I only have so much time. :-(
I actually hate when I hit my own arrow, it's one less arrow that day, an arrow I have to replace. If I wanted to waste my ammo I'd be shooting guns lol
For everyone here, guns, bows, and crossbows all have their own strengths and weaknesses and each is useful in a different situation. A bow is a relatively short range weapon with fairly non-consumable ammunition, a crossbow is a little bit more advanced and can be more accurate at longer ranges and achieve more power at the cost of price and higher likelihood that the bolt may break or become damaged, guns are more accurate and longer range but are loud and expensive to shoot and buy. Not speaking of legal issues with using certain weapons in certain areas, each one has their own use and situation to be used in.
You break arrows when you hit them? I've slapped my arrows many times and the only wear and tear are from the feathers which is cheap and easy to replace
This hits home for me. My range has 20m, 30, 50, 60 and 70. Going from 20 to 30 was quite a drastic change. At 20m I can get a decent grouping by just adjusting the arrow tip. I was doing a million other things inconsistently, but never noticed. But at 30, I felt you need to be much more aware of draw length/anchoring, finger release, bow tension, trajectory. I even adjust for arrow weight and air resistances as I sometimes switch to shoot wooden flu-flu's.
Camera angle can't disguise arrow flight time. That's what I look for when trying to get an estimation of range. And if the archer walks to target to extract arrow, count steps. There are many who like to embellish the truth.
Ok, so, I think that you have touched upon a subject that, in my opinion, is neglected by far too many of us (as in people in general), and that is "responsibility", which implies, that you perceive yourself accountable, at least to yourself, for what you teach. I realize, this may seem an odd post to people reading this. I just felt the need to do so. Keep up the good job
Thank you for all the advice in these videos. I recently started back up instinctive shooting with my Great Grandpas old recurve. I wish there was some one in my area who could help and give me some pointers.
A great video. One other Archer I enjoy following is Gary Chynne. He breaks down hitting the target in a very similar manner. He describes the gap method as well. The two of you, do a great job making it understandable for an old guy like me. I shoot rifles and pistols. In order to hit effectively, you have to understand the ballistics of what it is you are shooting. You can't simply put the "cross hair" on the center of you target and expect to hit the target. Thanks again Justin
Coming from a firearm target shooting background, I had a leg up on many of the other beginner archers in my class in understanding the need for consistency, POA, POI and the whatnot, so I started getting pretty tight groups at short range fairly quick and some saw this as being a greater feat that I would consider it. Not that it isn't fun to occasionally just drill the gold at short range, I generally go for a much smaller MOA at that range and, while my misses may be close to each other, I am aware that my small misses would be much larger at longer range. Now, it doesn't hurt that while I shoot a recurve there's a guy that's pinpoint accurate at that range with a hunting compound bow, so we both tend to shoot for multiple small bullseyes vs the single target like the rest of the class.
yeah, the camera that is filming on big sports even are using a long focal lenght lens with meaning, so the public can see the target better while seeing the archer att the same time. The same reason the moon looks so small on your phone (a smaller focal length/wide angle lens) , when you use like a 600-800mm lens the picture get so compressed (objects far away gets bigger in relative to objects closer to the camera).
I learned this when starting out and having so much confidence at 10-15 yards in my backyard, then being humbled very fast at 30 yards. 20 yards is not twice as difficult as 10 yards, it is like 4x as difficult.
"At shorter distances, the arrow doesn't have time to deviate" Same principle applies in billiards. At shorter distances, the cue ball usually hits the object ball before it goes off line.
Using the point of aim is a very good way to teach beginners starting out. If a new beginner is given a site it is not easy to do the form and focus on the site. Once the shooter has a good form, and achieving a good group using the point of aim/gap shooting - then introduce the site. When at a certain distance with point of aim and the pin for that designated distance match, then don't use the point of aim, use the site pin for that distance. If a shooter tries to set the pin without point of aim first, the shooter will be fiddling and diddling with the site pin each and every shot. As long as the arrows are the same weight and length a nice group can be had using the point of aim and then match the site pin. Then you can go for the 3 spot targets so the shooter won't Robin Hood an expensive arrow.
I watched a couple matches shooting at 70 meters (76.55 yards) in Antalya (Turkey) with the best archers in the world (via YT). Open air. Coastal area. Changing wind force and direction frequently because of that. One archer shot 10s with a couple Xs, missed the clue from the flag indicating wind force and direction changing and shot an 8. As Sensei says, 70 meters is a big distance and the awareness only sinks in when the camera zooms out to the angle of view of an archer, looking out from where the archers have to shoot.
I was shooting from 50m-ish today with a barebow, I had a 40cm hanging target cube and could only guess if I overshoot or undershoot from that distance. At that distance milimeters of string walking made the difference between hit or miss, but even misses were close groupings and it was much more fun than shooting from 20m or something
A couple things: For some reason, as a new archer, I was pleased to see in this video that you didn't shoot your bow with it perfectly vertical. I don't know why I was pleased to see this, but I seem to shoot better when I tilt the bow to the right a fair amount. The other thing is, that with gap shooting, the eye basically is the rear sight, and the arrow tip is the front sight, if I'm not mistaken. Assuming that one's eye is not capable of moving outside one's head, then arrow length would have a very substantial effect on where the arrow strikes the target. Presumably, in gap shooting using the same aiming point, a longer arrow would cause the arrow to strike relatively lower on a target than a shorter arrow, and therefore it would be best to absolutely standardize on one arrow length, n'est-ce pas? Many thanks. Oh, and one more thing, and I've noticed this in Survival Lilly's vids, you can really see in your slow-mo shot how the arrow jumps off your shelf after release and actually flies for awhile tilted downwards. Maybe someone has done a careful vid on how arrows fly off the bowshelf immediately after release as a function of nocking point, etc. I'd like to see that.
What is the backstop made of? Your instructionals are spot on mate and thank you so very much for taking the time to teach. I know personally I have learned a ton from you already and am looking forward to getting my back healed enough to launch a few long slender pointy things toward a target.
I never shoot a bow but a Crossbow once and I always wondered why she is so much flipping out when she hits the close target 3 times in a row. Even with a crossbow I had problems when not even doubling the distance.
no.. push up uses boody weight for resistance so the potential is limited , pull ups dont work the muscles in same direction required by archery witch are the trapezius , rhomboid, pectorals, deltoids , triceps and the forearm flexors , rowing exorcises is the best option
Hey mate been watching few of your vids good tips picking up a lot teaching myself obviously lol. Had a question have a cheapy recurve bow currently (no sight) my groupings are getting a lot better at 10 meters but I noticed in the video how you talk about aiming down lining your arrow tip lower which I was doing to start with but there is a place on my bow that steps out which I have been using to gauge my height which is working more consistently was wandering if it’s a bad habit to get into and I should focus more on the arrow head for height
Can you please tell me about your target backboard? Might be a silly question. What exactly have you stacked up there? And lifetime? I'm currently shooting hay bales.
I'm new to archery but I saw Lars split an arrow in half by shooting a razor blade. Yea that's impressive to me as an newbie, is there an illusion to that as well?
Are you referring to the shot in "A New Level of Archery" where he splits an arrow against a tanto blade in the ground? If so, there is something of an illusion: he didn't successfully split the arrow. The stunt comes from Arab Archery, as stated: "You then make fore yourself full-bodied arrows with tips thicker than their steles and leave them without arrowheads. Their ends, where normally the arrowheads are fixed, should be cut straight and even without being pointed. You next take soft bow free of recurvature, fitted with a fairly thick string, and stand facing the edge of the sword squarely. If your shot be accurate, the arrow will be *split in twain* by the edge of the planted sword. " The video doesn't show what kind of arrow he used or exactly where he was standing, but one thing is certain: he did not split his arrow in two. His shot grazed the edge, which shaved off some of the shaft. Which in turn looks impressive, but at that distance and with enough takes, anyone can hit that with enough attempts. The spirit of the stunt is that an archer can be skilled enough to hit something as narrow as a sword's edge from the front, and hit it squarely so that the arrow is split in half. It's not an exceptionally hard shot to pull off, but the text amps up the challenge by stating that it can also be done on horseback at the gallop.
@@timc4765 I wouldn't go that far. Lars is legitimately skilled and can pull off amazing stunts. What undermines the wow factor is that he doesn't do tricks on demand, so some difficult shots may have taken multiple attempts. The lack of transparency makes it less impressive to the trained eye. The bigger issue with Lars is that he embellishes particular skills as being practical or combat-related, when in fact they were either purely done for exhibition or used in very niche circumstances. He does have a tendency to blur the narrative, so I suppose there are similarities, but I don't hold Lars in that much disdain to compare him to Bilzerian. The man's done his hard work and training. It's more than what he can do doesn't substantiate what he claims.
As a traditional asiatic horse bow user, I just get excited when I can hit a target 60 meters away. My bow doesn't go much farther without high drawing haha!
Tried archery yesterday for an hour hit half of em in the bulls. I feels that pros would hit like 15m with good grouping at ease. So those clips that hitting lotta bulls at 10m don't feel impressive at all. I mean I've never touch a bow in my life and like nearly half landed in that circle. I also think that 10m is just right for the circle(like increase the distance and the circle will be (super) smaller and harder to aim). I dont think that I can even hit the 6 ring if its 20m but it's a fun sport gonna watch more vids and learn about it some more.
Good video, agree, if people want to impress at 10 meters, do it fast shooting against a moving target, especially hunters, if you cant hit a tennis ball at 10 meters, please practice more before you start throwing arrows at animals.
When you can knock a quarter off the top of the target at 30 yards with a traditional long bow or recurve every time let me know...I used to do it all the time as a kid when I was shooting almost every day
Totally agree ! If I did that when I was in practice I would hit my own arrows a great deal! at 29 each, so I shoot a target that has 5 bulls and put one in each. at 10 yards, It's not impressive! but it is fun, for a fundamental warm up!
see this is why i shoot 20 to 40 meters on my youtube channel and no less with no sights on a long bow and horse bow (Except for trick shots). at least 20 plus because i agree with video, i was about to make a video on this, but u beat me to the punch, good job.
Nu-Sensei Hitting all arrow: "This is not even that good!" Meanwhile me, 2 hit out of 10 arrow (not even at the center of the target: "What can I say... I have natural talent" Increase my range time, I guess T_T
@nusensei I think a great follow up video would be to explain why TH-camrs make the target seem far away. They are not being dishonest, they just don't have a dedicated photographer. Most TH-camrs who are filming themselves keep the camera conveniently close to where they are standing. They use a wide angle lens that would also be suitable for arms-length vlogging on a camera that is perhaps one meter away. So, in this example the camera is 1 meter away from the archer and 11 meters away from the target, causing the target to take up a relatively small portion of the image. A torso sized target seems to take up 1/11th (~9%) the size of the TH-camr's torso. Olympic events on the other hand have professional photography staff. The targets are 80 meters from the archers, the TV cameras are 30 meters behind the archers and the sports photographers are even further behind them. This means that the sports photographer's camera might be 50 meters away from the archer and 130 meters from the target. In this example a torso sized target takes up 50/130th (~38%) of the size of the Olympian. images.nbcolympics.com/www.nbcolympics.com/field_image/04March2016/160222_history.jpg For a video that explains how photographers use these effects see th-cam.com/video/_TTXY1Se0eg/w-d-xo.html
Hmm my eyes...or youtube... may decieve me but it looks like all of your arrows are getting a kick to the nock by your shelf. Nocking point too low? Just my 2ct. :D
I agree to a degree, but I also think content creators and commenters are more similar than most realize, often times commenters make comments like the ones you are highlighting because there wasn't much else to comment on in the video, a grasping at straws type of thing. Other times, praise is given for an individual archer's improvements, not as a comparison of skill with others...any comment mentioning the Olympics over a 10 meter group are probably somewhat tongue in cheek. I guess it is similar to making videos that focus on the veracity of commenter praise when you don't have any other ideas for video topics...any port in a storm, right? ;) Cheers!
the dunning kruger effect apparently overrules any science thought in school , the for some reason unknown to me you tube gives you automatic credibility
@@mortenjacobsen5673 I'm not so sure viewership is an indication of perceived credibility...sometimes I see someone as far from proficient and still enjoy their content...sometimes ironically, other times it can just be fun to watch someone improve. sure some of the content creators I subscribe to certainly seem to be experts in their fields, but I often find myself learning just as much from novices as I do from experts...if not more. maybe i'm just easily amused ;)
@@tmalonso your voice dont matter unless you have a lot ofsubs according to some ,credential as instructor or self thought is apparently of no consequence as long as you get you ego, brand and cullt going
@@mortenjacobsen5673 people come to youtube for entertainment and information...and mostly in that order, it seems. sadly expertise is simply not enough...and its anything but a requirement for a successful channel :)
Also - and this is knowledge I've only heard on other youtube videos - when you're hunting, you want to kill the animal as quickly as possible. The further away, the greater the chance you cause unnecessary suffering as penetrating power decreases.
Yes the penetrating power decreases, but this decrease is not to problematic (depending on the animal). The bigger problem is the aiming, you don't want to just hit the animal, you want to archive a lethal hit, preferably at the vital organs. I think that is also a reason most of those prepers (a few shown in the video) shoot at small distances, because they don't aim for getting high precision on distance, but they are trying to get trained in hitting the target at small ranges every time. And when they hunt (or need to hunt), they will try to get close to the animal and get a lethal hit from short ranges, rather then a penetrated limb at 30m
@@j0gi In order to shoot at 70 m you will need a 40 pounds or more bow. Mine is only 28 pounds and it is good for 30 meters, not more. I´ve not tried 70 m just yet. I am not that good (I am a beginner); I am afraid of killing one bird or two if I try!! ;-))
When you're outdoors shooting at 70m, shooting at 10m is not practice for precision and accuracy. When shooting at 10m you're more likely to be practicing your technique and/or testing your equipment to make sure everything is in order. For a beginner yes, it might be to test precision and accuracy. But for experienced archer it's mostly for technique.
You might point out that my form was so bad I literally summoned the devil and my hand dropped so bad God herself cried... ... but i still hit the same spot.
This is a good video. Due to this pandemic, I was not able to learn and shoot on a real range and so have resorted to shooting in my backyard. It sucks to know that what I'm able to do is not any good, but I'm hopeful of getting better in the future.
The point is that sport archers are struggling to be far more accurate than is necessary. Typical target of practical (probably historical) archer is a human enemy, who is really big compared to your yellow circles. Even if you hit red border, it would still be a good shot, if you did in battle. And 10 meters? Even today there are archers (in Amazonia for example) who shoot their enemies in such range. There were many more of them in history. If you can shoot that yellow circle from 10 meters, you ARE good enough for (some, not all) combat and hunting tactics. That is what non-archers see and what they rightfully appreciate.
Absolutely. Untuned bow, wrong arrows, wrong nocking point, and consistent grouping at 10m. It's not skill; just pointing the thing in the right place.
@@NUSensei Yep, sub optimal arrow flight but consistently so. If you bare shaft tuned it for spine and knock height I reckon you might really enjoy the bare bow thing.
Misconception on a "Robin hood" . A "true" Robin hood requires the first shot going into the bullseye, the second shot purposely going into the first arrow. Anything else is an accidental hit.
good for you it's very rare indeed that i even drink anything fizzy it rots the insides that does however clean a toilet or sink quite well and brings a coin up looking good as new
@@havtor007 yeah, while I'm not a fan of them for the sugar levels, the hate for what cola can clean is hilarious. Orange oil based cleaning, oranges are a super food, look how good and natural they are. This citrus based soda can clean, it must be awful for your guts
This is also why archers tend to remain unimpressed by trick shooters. It looks impressive to an outsider but to us we know how easy it is. This is why you'll see the "archery community" seem to slam certain performers because they DO deliberately mislead people into thinking that they have superhuman skills when realistically I can have a total novice hitting those shots in a couple of hours.
You caught me, I'd already hit reply before the very end. Considering that I've just spent the morning doing the Gao Ying practice at around 1m maybe I should have taken photos and posted them showing my awesome grouping.
And then when those trick shooters claim "I can teach you this skill in one day" they say it as if it was a display of "I'm an awesome teacher" rather than "It's simply quite easy".
@@Tennouseijin This is precisely, again, why Lars is overrated. The current trend is his fans yelling about how he worked on Robin Hood, but months of training Taron Egerton and he can hit discs at 3 metres and shoot a single arrow while doing a little hop. None of these skills were used during production.
@@NUSensei To be honest, my approach to watching movies is - wait a dacade or two after the release, then see which movies are still considered must-watch classics. And maybe find some time to watch at least a few of those. So my knowledge about this particular Robin Hood movie is near zero, other than what I heard from a few youtubers.
Well said!... I teach archery at a local High school and I have had students who become very frustrated after two or three classes (1 hr. class, two times a week,) because they feel as though they “Just can’t get it”. They watch a lot of TH-cam videos…. Or television and they see either the deliberate deception or don’t understand that “Camera Angle and Angular Perspective” can be very deceptive! Today's kids live in an “Instant World” … and if they don’t obtain accuracy immediately… they are convinced that there is something wrong with them… and often times want to give up! Thankfully… None of my students have given up… and have now achieved a “certain “level of proficiency! I will be showing them this TH-cam video in class this next week! Donnie
how about you teach them how archery works so they get a more intricate and complex picture ? elevate the from the stupidity of dunner kruger effect , physics, euler , hooke``s law , bio mechanics,etc
@@mortenjacobsen5673 Already on it.... sort of.... ;-) We started off just having fun... some of the students were very happy with that... while others wanted more! As they progressed... and began realize that their shooting abilities were in a direct relationship with the effort they put in........ they began asking more and more technical questions... and I am taking them just as deep as they want to go!!!! I have (5) five students that just can't get enough of the intricacies of archery. and are absolutely eating it up... while the others are pretty happy with socializing with other students and having fun! This video that NUSensei has made created really backs up what they students are slowly learning for themselves!!!!
@@mortenjacobsen5673 They are kids... you cant expect them to think like an adult. They live in a world of microwave ovens and jet planes... (you can now boil water in 45 seconds and get on a plane in Oregon and be in New York in 5 hours....) The world that we are giving them is all about "Speed and Convenience".... and I think this is one of the main reason so many are drawn to Compound Bows. (Half the Practice... and twice the accuracy.) Traditional Archery is about "Discipline" and "Time Spent Developing a Skill Set".... Archery in itself goes against what the majority of the world is striving for. I'm just trying to get these kids out of the rut this wold is creating for them to fall into! ;-)
@@donnie-sherrieclinton9457 id bet they know how a plane works and you til have to spend time in flight and that a compound requires different skill sets like learning to only drive an automatic transmission
Thank you Nu! I have the hardest time explaining to people that it isn't hard, and I am not even very awesome. The place I live is SO dominated by compound archers though that people literally get scared off by not having a scope on a trad bow. This should really help.
I was hoping in the latter half you would show how small an olympic target looks at 70m WITHOUT a misleading camera angle / close up shot - i.e taken with a lense with no zoom at eye level, looking the same as it would to the naked eye. Otherwise, nice video as always :)
On TH-cam is a video titled "The Antient Scorton Silver Arrow 2016" (old spelling, not a typo) which is not my video (though I am in it) showing shooting at 100 yards (91.44 metres.) Every non-archer I have showed it to commented on how tiny the targets were, and that's using the 122cm large target faces.
Ok so what bow would you choose the bear takedown or the black wolf (rcx-17). Love your videos btw they are really educational but at the same time very interesting.
Excellent reality check for those of us who watch archers on film! Remember the old Hollywood shorts from the 30's and 40's. Lots of takes and retakes and tricks of the camera angle, no doubt...
That is like a lot of people say I'm a great shot or whatnot, with my rifles; but I get first time shooters shooting the same targets as consistently in no time. The key is having the sights set properly for that distance, the technique isn't as critical as most think, for the type of shooting I do. Of course, those that flinch need a bit of extra help.
I really like your videos, and, as a beginner, I'm learning a lot from you. I find it hard to understand how recurve archers shoot outdoors from seventy meters, and compound archers shoot from fifty meters (at a smaller target). I would have thought the more powerful compound bow would shoot at targets further away than the recurve archers. Keep up the great work. Trevor.
Lars Andersen is impressive. He shoots accurately and quickly while moving, both hands, several techniques, no anchor, no nock point, no arrow rest, arrow from the right side etc.
I've been shooting for a few months now and the distance is really what makes your arrows miss. At ten metres, all in the gold, no problem. But twenty or thirty metres? I just can't wait for my own bow to arrive. Shooting with matching arrows and revealing, step by step, the faults in my technique...it is already thrilling now. The emotional reward for hitting a good shot is priceless.
No this is not him showing off this is him just being lazy 😂😂 if he wanted to he could just start stacking arrows to spell out his name are boy be launching Robinhood after Robinhood after Robin Hood up in here
Using gap aiming I was getting most of my shots in his yellow ring at 10m my second day out. The problem you’re talking about though is distances look so so much farther on screen.
I shoot instinctive and can't even imagine shooting and hitting a target at 60 meters. Yes, that the camera does not show the distance very well. Much respect due to long distance shooters.
Dale, I shoot instinctive as well and 60 meters is more than do-able. I believe any of us can do it and would happily offer advice on your shooting if you would like.
DOUBLE DECEPTION
How many takes did I go through? Trick montages also won't reveal this.
I did one warm-up set to determine my gap. The shots done in the first half were done in a single take. The shots done at the end were done in a single take, but after one failed attempt in which 3 arrows went off the gold, and two off-centre shots at the end were also removed. Again, it's easy to make yourself look good with the right editing.
Technically you could take a first-day beginner and remove all the non-golds after each end until you have all arrows in the 10 ring. Might take a while but it's "photo worthy" when you're done, even if it's a total lie.
Or just shoot first then draw the target later.
You just hurt the lars fan's feeling.LOL
@Rad Derry Very good shooters (worlds best class) tend to target a bit off from their arrows in the target at low distances, because otherwise they would destroy their arrows most of the time. GIven that a single arrow for competitions can cost easily around 50 Euro / 50 Dollar, this is due to the immense cost.
And in the life of an archer, you are mostly guaranteed to do a "Robin Hood Shot" at least one time. It is just the immense number of arrows shot that results in a lucky "hit your own arrow". An Beginner to Advanced archer shoots around 60 to 80 Arrows twice a week - that's a huge number in ones life.
@Rad Derry I think those extremely expensive arrows can only be used by the best of the world. A normal user wouldn't feel a difference. But not every profi archer uses them? I don't know. I only know that arrows can be quite expensive. It is about consistency and the faster the arrow flies, the less it is exposed to wind and other factors. To get the last 2% more energy you pay such a high price.
For the terminology I must apologize. I am native german and don't know the correct english words.
Well, I am shooting olympic recurve. I have to hold 28 pounds of force and a bow with a weight of around 2kg with only one completele stretched arm for around 10 seconds per arrow. Given I am not trained at all (never done any sports, working in software developing) this is no wonder.
I would really like to go shooting more often, but I only have so much time. :-(
The most credible archery source on the internet. Nice one.
I know right? There is literally no actual pieced information out there
I only get my archery information from random archery blogs from 2004 and random youtubers with 20 subs and little to no archery experience.
"And whatever bullseyes you're getting are flukes" Lol
I've never felt more attacked.
I actually hate when I hit my own arrow, it's one less arrow that day, an arrow I have to replace. If I wanted to waste my ammo I'd be shooting guns lol
"if I wanted to waste my ammo I'd be shooting guns" lmao good job sounding poor as fuck
For everyone here, guns, bows, and crossbows all have their own strengths and weaknesses and each is useful in a different situation. A bow is a relatively short range weapon with fairly non-consumable ammunition, a crossbow is a little bit more advanced and can be more accurate at longer ranges and achieve more power at the cost of price and higher likelihood that the bolt may break or become damaged, guns are more accurate and longer range but are loud and expensive to shoot and buy. Not speaking of legal issues with using certain weapons in certain areas, each one has their own use and situation to be used in.
@Strength Beyond Strength People do, and they re-cast the lead into new projectiles.
It's a satisfying way to lose arrows. I'd rather lose then like that than get them stuck in a fence
You break arrows when you hit them? I've slapped my arrows many times and the only wear and tear are from the feathers which is cheap and easy to replace
This hits home for me. My range has 20m, 30, 50, 60 and 70. Going from 20 to 30 was quite a drastic change.
At 20m I can get a decent grouping by just adjusting the arrow tip. I was doing a million other things inconsistently, but never noticed.
But at 30, I felt you need to be much more aware of draw length/anchoring, finger release, bow tension, trajectory. I even adjust for arrow weight and air resistances as I sometimes switch to shoot wooden flu-flu's.
Camera angle can't disguise arrow flight time. That's what I look for when trying to get an estimation of range.
And if the archer walks to target to extract arrow, count steps.
There are many who like to embellish the truth.
r/theydidthemath
don't they differ very greatly tho? at least between the extremes like a longbow with very thick arrows and a compound bow
Freaki 07 yes they do.
i just started yesterday, im practicing the gap method. been watching videos on forms, i hope my journey will be fruitful.
How is it now? 1 year later
Ok, so, I think that you have touched upon a subject that, in my opinion, is neglected by far too many of us (as in people in general), and that is "responsibility", which implies, that you perceive yourself accountable, at least to yourself, for what you teach.
I realize, this may seem an odd post to people reading this. I just felt the need to do so.
Keep up the good job
Thank you for all the advice in these videos. I recently started back up instinctive shooting with my Great Grandpas old recurve. I wish there was some one in my area who could help and give me some pointers.
A great video.
One other Archer I enjoy following is Gary Chynne. He breaks down hitting the target in a very similar manner.
He describes the gap method as well. The two of you, do a great job making it understandable for an old guy like me.
I shoot rifles and pistols. In order to hit effectively, you have to understand the ballistics of what it is you are shooting. You can't simply put the "cross hair" on the center of you target and expect to hit the target.
Thanks again
Justin
I could never afford a bow but I love watching your stuff and you're entertaining to watch.
Coming from a firearm target shooting background, I had a leg up on many of the other beginner archers in my class in understanding the need for consistency, POA, POI and the whatnot, so I started getting pretty tight groups at short range fairly quick and some saw this as being a greater feat that I would consider it. Not that it isn't fun to occasionally just drill the gold at short range, I generally go for a much smaller MOA at that range and, while my misses may be close to each other, I am aware that my small misses would be much larger at longer range.
Now, it doesn't hurt that while I shoot a recurve there's a guy that's pinpoint accurate at that range with a hunting compound bow, so we both tend to shoot for multiple small bullseyes vs the single target like the rest of the class.
yeah, the camera that is filming on big sports even are using a long focal lenght lens with meaning, so the public can see the target better while seeing the archer att the same time. The same reason the moon looks so small on your phone (a smaller focal length/wide angle lens) , when you use like a 600-800mm lens the picture get so compressed (objects far away gets bigger in relative to objects closer to the camera).
I learned this when starting out and having so much confidence at 10-15 yards in my backyard, then being humbled very fast at 30 yards. 20 yards is not twice as difficult as 10 yards, it is like 4x as difficult.
"At shorter distances, the arrow doesn't have time to deviate"
Same principle applies in billiards.
At shorter distances, the cue ball usually hits the object ball before it goes off line.
Using the point of aim is a very good way to teach beginners starting out. If a new beginner is given a site it is not easy to do the form and focus on the site. Once the shooter has a good form, and achieving a good group using the point of aim/gap shooting - then introduce the site. When at a certain distance with point of aim and the pin for that designated distance match, then don't use the point of aim, use the site pin for that distance. If a shooter tries to set the pin without point of aim first, the shooter will be fiddling and diddling with the site pin each and every shot.
As long as the arrows are the same weight and length a nice group can be had using the point of aim and then match the site pin. Then you can go for the 3 spot targets so the shooter won't Robin Hood an expensive arrow.
I like the barebow you are using. May i know which model? Btw, great info as always.
NIKA Archery Raptor. About $200 USD on ebay.
I love the honesty on this 🖤
I watched a couple matches shooting at 70 meters (76.55 yards) in Antalya (Turkey) with the best archers in the world (via YT). Open air. Coastal area. Changing wind force and direction frequently because of that. One archer shot 10s with a couple Xs, missed the clue from the flag indicating wind force and direction changing and shot an 8. As Sensei says, 70 meters is a big distance and the awareness only sinks in when the camera zooms out to the angle of view of an archer, looking out from where the archers have to shoot.
I was shooting from 50m-ish today with a barebow, I had a 40cm hanging target cube and could only guess if I overshoot or undershoot from that distance. At that distance milimeters of string walking made the difference between hit or miss, but even misses were close groupings and it was much more fun than shooting from 20m or something
A couple things: For some reason, as a new archer, I was pleased to see in this video that you didn't shoot your bow with it perfectly vertical. I don't know why I was pleased to see this, but I seem to shoot better when I tilt the bow to the right a fair amount. The other thing is, that with gap shooting, the eye basically is the rear sight, and the arrow tip is the front sight, if I'm not mistaken. Assuming that one's eye is not capable of moving outside one's head, then arrow length would have a very substantial effect on where the arrow strikes the target. Presumably, in gap shooting using the same aiming point, a longer arrow would cause the arrow to strike relatively lower on a target than a shorter arrow, and therefore it would be best to absolutely standardize on one arrow length, n'est-ce pas? Many thanks. Oh, and one more thing, and I've noticed this in Survival Lilly's vids, you can really see in your slow-mo shot how the arrow jumps off your shelf after release and actually flies for awhile tilted downwards. Maybe someone has done a careful vid on how arrows fly off the bowshelf immediately after release as a function of nocking point, etc. I'd like to see that.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax
Nusensei merch? Nice shirt btw
What is the backstop made of? Your instructionals are spot on mate and thank you so very much for taking the time to teach. I know personally I have learned a ton from you already and am looking forward to getting my back healed enough to launch a few long slender pointy things toward a target.
You're so right I was shooting a 1 inch wide stick in the center of my target easily but stepping back just 8 yards and moving it over was way harder.
Couldn't help but notice that arrow "jump" in slow motion. I've had this problem often, even with feathers. Is that due to bad release?
Why do you use the largest possible target on that close distance? That group on a 40cm target wouldn’t look much of anything.
Even cheap bows placed in a mechanical machine will get shot for shot consistency better than most everybody who shoots archery.
I never shoot a bow but a Crossbow once and I always wondered why she is so much flipping out when she hits the close target 3 times in a row.
Even with a crossbow I had problems when not even doubling the distance.
I have a question.
Exercises like push up, chin up helps to build shoulder muscles. Do they help in archery for moving up in draw weight?
no.. push up uses boody weight for resistance so the potential is limited , pull ups dont work the muscles in same direction required by archery witch are the trapezius , rhomboid, pectorals, deltoids , triceps and the forearm flexors , rowing exorcises
is the best option
Where does that target come from. Thanks
There was nothing basically proficient about that loose. 🤣
Wow stand back badass!
Could you make a comparison of your precision at this distance using a sight vs gap shooting vs instinctive?
Great video and good information
Wide angle lens (like in cel phone & action cams) EXPAND space. Things LOOKS farther
Hey mate been watching few of your vids good tips picking up a lot teaching myself obviously lol. Had a question have a cheapy recurve bow currently (no sight) my groupings are getting a lot better at 10 meters but I noticed in the video how you talk about aiming down lining your arrow tip lower which I was doing to start with but there is a place on my bow that steps out which I have been using to gauge my height which is working more consistently was wandering if it’s a bad habit to get into and I should focus more on the arrow head for height
Can you please tell me about your target backboard? Might be a silly question. What exactly have you stacked up there? And lifetime? I'm currently shooting hay bales.
What is that crazy wall target?
Survival Lilly announces her distances.
I'm new to archery but I saw Lars split an arrow in half by shooting a razor blade. Yea that's impressive to me as an newbie, is there an illusion to that as well?
Are you referring to the shot in "A New Level of Archery" where he splits an arrow against a tanto blade in the ground? If so, there is something of an illusion: he didn't successfully split the arrow.
The stunt comes from Arab Archery, as stated:
"You then make fore yourself full-bodied arrows with tips thicker than their steles and leave them without arrowheads. Their ends, where normally the arrowheads are fixed, should be cut straight and even without being pointed. You next take soft bow free of recurvature, fitted with a fairly thick string, and stand facing the edge of the sword squarely. If your shot be accurate, the arrow will be *split in twain* by the edge of the planted sword. "
The video doesn't show what kind of arrow he used or exactly where he was standing, but one thing is certain: he did not split his arrow in two. His shot grazed the edge, which shaved off some of the shaft. Which in turn looks impressive, but at that distance and with enough takes, anyone can hit that with enough attempts.
The spirit of the stunt is that an archer can be skilled enough to hit something as narrow as a sword's edge from the front, and hit it squarely so that the arrow is split in half. It's not an exceptionally hard shot to pull off, but the text amps up the challenge by stating that it can also be done on horseback at the gallop.
@@NUSensei damn I guess Lars Anderson is to archery what Dan Bilzerian is to poker. Nothing but smoke and mirrors
@@timc4765 I wouldn't go that far. Lars is legitimately skilled and can pull off amazing stunts. What undermines the wow factor is that he doesn't do tricks on demand, so some difficult shots may have taken multiple attempts. The lack of transparency makes it less impressive to the trained eye.
The bigger issue with Lars is that he embellishes particular skills as being practical or combat-related, when in fact they were either purely done for exhibition or used in very niche circumstances. He does have a tendency to blur the narrative, so I suppose there are similarities, but I don't hold Lars in that much disdain to compare him to Bilzerian. The man's done his hard work and training. It's more than what he can do doesn't substantiate what he claims.
As a traditional asiatic horse bow user, I just get excited when I can hit a target 60 meters away. My bow doesn't go much farther without high drawing haha!
Every credible archer on youtube should say the distance they are shooting at
Tried archery yesterday for an hour hit half of em in the bulls. I feels that pros would hit like 15m with good grouping at ease. So those clips that hitting lotta bulls at 10m don't feel impressive at all. I mean I've never touch a bow in my life and like nearly half landed in that circle. I also think that 10m is just right for the circle(like increase the distance and the circle will be (super) smaller and harder to aim). I dont think that I can even hit the 6 ring if its 20m but it's a fun sport gonna watch more vids and learn about it some more.
Good video, agree, if people want to impress at 10 meters, do it fast shooting against a moving target, especially hunters, if you cant hit a tennis ball at 10 meters, please practice more before you start throwing arrows at animals.
What is the material you use for the target?
Agreed.
What was the bow you used in this ?
When you can knock a quarter off the top of the target at 30 yards with a traditional long bow or recurve every time let me know...I used to do it all the time as a kid when I was shooting almost every day
Aaron Sanborn sure there buddy
Totally agree ! If I did that when I was in practice I would hit my own arrows a great deal! at 29 each, so I shoot a target that has 5 bulls and put one in each. at 10 yards, It's not impressive! but it is fun, for a fundamental warm up!
Hi, what is the grey material used for the target?
Haleemah Abdul-Muhaymin that was eva spoon.cut and stack
What is your target made of? And how can one make it?
Looks like cardboard clamped in by a ratchet strap
see this is why i shoot 20 to 40 meters on my youtube channel and no less with no sights on a long bow and horse bow (Except for trick shots). at least 20 plus because i agree with video, i was about to make a video on this, but u beat me to the punch, good job.
What bow are you using in this video?
Its in the diacription
@@ferret1252 was that there before?
@@joshmorl6835 yes
@@ferret1252 I must be blind haha
Nu-Sensei Hitting all arrow:
"This is not even that good!"
Meanwhile me, 2 hit out of 10 arrow (not even at the center of the target:
"What can I say... I have natural talent"
Increase my range time, I guess T_T
ive gotten good enough with my compound that if I don't get an X or a 5 with an arrow it's my fault, not the bow or the arrow
Driving in a straight line is easy with training wheels
Very good video !
@nusensei I think a great follow up video would be to explain why TH-camrs make the target seem far away. They are not being dishonest, they just don't have a dedicated photographer.
Most TH-camrs who are filming themselves keep the camera conveniently close to where they are standing. They use a wide angle lens that would also be suitable for arms-length vlogging on a camera that is perhaps one meter away. So, in this example the camera is 1 meter away from the archer and 11 meters away from the target, causing the target to take up a relatively small portion of the image. A torso sized target seems to take up 1/11th (~9%) the size of the TH-camr's torso.
Olympic events on the other hand have professional photography staff. The targets are 80 meters from the archers, the TV cameras are 30 meters behind the archers and the sports photographers are even further behind them. This means that the sports photographer's camera might be 50 meters away from the archer and 130 meters from the target. In this example a torso sized target takes up 50/130th (~38%) of the size of the Olympian. images.nbcolympics.com/www.nbcolympics.com/field_image/04March2016/160222_history.jpg
For a video that explains how photographers use these effects see th-cam.com/video/_TTXY1Se0eg/w-d-xo.html
And that's how you learn to shoot an apple of somebody's head 🤣
I get friends that look at my bow and call me a fake archer from the sights and stabilizers. I just shrug it off and laugh at them
@ Gavin Thirlwall
Yes, very true
Hmm my eyes...or youtube... may decieve me but it looks like all of your arrows are getting a kick to the nock by your shelf. Nocking point too low? Just my 2ct. :D
I agree to a degree, but I also think content creators and commenters are more similar than most realize, often times commenters make comments like the ones you are highlighting because there wasn't much else to comment on in the video, a grasping at straws type of thing. Other times, praise is given for an individual archer's improvements, not as a comparison of skill with others...any comment mentioning the Olympics over a 10 meter group are probably somewhat tongue in cheek. I guess it is similar to making videos that focus on the veracity of commenter praise when you don't have any other ideas for video topics...any port in a storm, right? ;) Cheers!
the dunning kruger effect apparently overrules any science thought in school , the for some reason unknown to me you tube gives you automatic credibility
@@mortenjacobsen5673 I'm not so sure viewership is an indication of perceived credibility...sometimes I see someone as far from proficient and still enjoy their content...sometimes ironically, other times it can just be fun to watch someone improve. sure some of the content creators I subscribe to certainly seem to be experts in their fields, but I often find myself learning just as much from novices as I do from experts...if not more. maybe i'm just easily amused ;)
@@tmalonso your voice dont matter unless you have a lot ofsubs according to some ,credential as instructor or self thought is apparently of no consequence as long as you get you ego, brand and cullt going
@@mortenjacobsen5673 people come to youtube for entertainment and information...and mostly in that order, it seems. sadly expertise is simply not enough...and its anything but a requirement for a successful channel :)
@@tmalonso then they should rename videos and specify the content and perhaps use a disclaimer
Also - and this is knowledge I've only heard on other youtube videos - when you're hunting, you want to kill the animal as quickly as possible. The further away, the greater the chance you cause unnecessary suffering as penetrating power decreases.
Yes the penetrating power decreases, but this decrease is not to problematic (depending on the animal). The bigger problem is the aiming, you don't want to just hit the animal, you want to archive a lethal hit, preferably at the vital organs. I think that is also a reason most of those prepers (a few shown in the video) shoot at small distances, because they don't aim for getting high precision on distance, but they are trying to get trained in hitting the target at small ranges every time. And when they hunt (or need to hunt), they will try to get close to the animal and get a lethal hit from short ranges, rather then a penetrated limb at 30m
1:15 very true. I like to shoot at 70m. the distance makes the challenge and my pleasure ;)
Hey I have a few questions! What's your draw weight and if you hunt, what range do you feel comfortable hunting?
@@j0gi In order to shoot at 70 m you will need a 40 pounds or more bow. Mine is only 28 pounds and it is good for 30 meters, not more. I´ve not tried 70 m just yet. I am not that good (I am a beginner); I am afraid of killing one bird or two if I try!! ;-))
Shouldnt your gaps be better than that at 10m? lol, I riser gap and I can easily do a 2 inch group or less at that range.
BUT IT STILL HITS THE SPOT
4:42 - it is a test of precision and accuracy.
When you're outdoors shooting at 70m, shooting at 10m is not practice for precision and accuracy. When shooting at 10m you're more likely to be practicing your technique and/or testing your equipment to make sure everything is in order. For a beginner yes, it might be to test precision and accuracy. But for experienced archer it's mostly for technique.
You might point out that my form was so bad I literally summoned the devil and my hand dropped so bad God herself cried...
... but i still hit the same spot.
Himself, it’s God Himself.
This is a good video. Due to this pandemic, I was not able to learn and shoot on a real range and so have resorted to shooting in my backyard. It sucks to know that what I'm able to do is not any good, but I'm hopeful of getting better in the future.
you look so much older with a beard :D
YOur release is in two stages....
The point is that sport archers are struggling to be far more accurate than is necessary. Typical target of practical (probably historical) archer is a human enemy, who is really big compared to your yellow circles. Even if you hit red border, it would still be a good shot, if you did in battle. And 10 meters? Even today there are archers (in Amazonia for example) who shoot their enemies in such range. There were many more of them in history. If you can shoot that yellow circle from 10 meters, you ARE good enough for (some, not all) combat and hunting tactics. That is what non-archers see and what they rightfully appreciate.
Your arrows are porpoising badly with that bow.
Absolutely. Untuned bow, wrong arrows, wrong nocking point, and consistent grouping at 10m. It's not skill; just pointing the thing in the right place.
@@NUSensei Yep, sub optimal arrow flight but consistently so. If you bare shaft tuned it for spine and knock height I reckon you might really enjoy the bare bow thing.
I enjoy shooting 40cm at 40 yards, and 60cm at 50 metres.
Prefer competing against myself.
Stand back badass.
I got a better grouping at 10 meters with compound arrows out of my recurve 😎
It was a fluke :(
10m that’s like playing with darts just saying lol 😝 that nose is so soothing to the sole
You could have roobin hooded right there
Misconception on a "Robin hood" . A "true" Robin hood requires the first shot going into the bullseye, the second shot purposely going into the first arrow. Anything else is an accidental hit.
@@thearchersparadox3292 thanks, I didn't know that.
Thunbs down: shaved ! :>) :>) .... grow back the wise -1 please...vn video tee hee
Any tips on form or ideas for targets?
th-cam.com/video/7XQp_kEhYeE/w-d-xo.html
He is almost as good as Lars Anderson
Then you have no idea how good Lars Anderson is.
good for you it's very rare indeed that i even drink anything fizzy it rots the insides that does however clean a toilet or sink quite well and brings a coin up looking good as new
So do ketchup so does lemon juice so does apple juice and so on.
It is about ph leveles.
@@havtor007 yeah, while I'm not a fan of them for the sugar levels, the hate for what cola can clean is hilarious. Orange oil based cleaning, oranges are a super food, look how good and natural they are. This citrus based soda can clean, it must be awful for your guts
1.45 why u reality check me :(
Yeah, 10 meters aint much kids, now 40mt at that grouping on the otherhand
This is also why archers tend to remain unimpressed by trick shooters. It looks impressive to an outsider but to us we know how easy it is.
This is why you'll see the "archery community" seem to slam certain performers because they DO deliberately mislead people into thinking that they have superhuman skills when realistically I can have a total novice hitting those shots in a couple of hours.
I'm guessing you commented before reaching the end of the video. In any case, absolutely. Hitting a can or an apple at 5m is not an impressive feat.
You caught me, I'd already hit reply before the very end.
Considering that I've just spent the morning doing the Gao Ying practice at around 1m maybe I should have taken photos and posted them showing my awesome grouping.
And then when those trick shooters claim "I can teach you this skill in one day" they say it as if it was a display of "I'm an awesome teacher" rather than "It's simply quite easy".
@@Tennouseijin This is precisely, again, why Lars is overrated. The current trend is his fans yelling about how he worked on Robin Hood, but months of training Taron Egerton and he can hit discs at 3 metres and shoot a single arrow while doing a little hop. None of these skills were used during production.
@@NUSensei To be honest, my approach to watching movies is - wait a dacade or two after the release, then see which movies are still considered must-watch classics. And maybe find some time to watch at least a few of those.
So my knowledge about this particular Robin Hood movie is near zero, other than what I heard from a few youtubers.
I'll be honest I know nothing about archery I just like hearing you talk
Well said!...
I teach archery at a local High school and I have had students who become very frustrated after two or three classes (1 hr. class, two times a week,) because they feel as though they “Just can’t get it”. They watch a lot of TH-cam videos…. Or television and they see either the deliberate deception or don’t understand that “Camera Angle and Angular Perspective” can be very deceptive!
Today's kids live in an “Instant World” … and if they don’t obtain accuracy immediately… they are convinced that there is something wrong with them… and often times want to give up! Thankfully… None of my students have given up… and have now achieved a “certain “level of proficiency!
I will be showing them this TH-cam video in class this next week!
Donnie
how about you teach them how archery works so they get a more intricate and complex picture ? elevate the from the stupidity of dunner kruger effect , physics, euler , hooke``s law , bio mechanics,etc
@@mortenjacobsen5673 Already on it.... sort of.... ;-) We started off just having fun... some of the students were very happy with that... while others wanted more! As they progressed... and began realize that their shooting abilities were in a direct relationship with the effort they put in........ they began asking more and more technical questions... and I am taking them just as deep as they want to go!!!! I have (5) five students that just can't get enough of the intricacies of archery. and are absolutely eating it up... while the others are pretty happy with socializing with other students and having fun! This video that NUSensei has made created really backs up what they students are slowly learning for themselves!!!!
@@donnie-sherrieclinton9457 but why is it not self evident from the start? where does this insta skill perception come from ?
@@mortenjacobsen5673 They are kids... you cant expect them to think like an adult. They live in a world of microwave ovens and jet planes... (you can now boil water in 45 seconds and get on a plane in Oregon and be in New York in 5 hours....) The world that we are giving them is all about "Speed and Convenience".... and I think this is one of the main reason so many are drawn to Compound Bows. (Half the Practice... and twice the accuracy.) Traditional Archery is about "Discipline" and "Time Spent Developing a Skill Set".... Archery in itself goes against what the majority of the world is striving for. I'm just trying to get these kids out of the rut this wold is creating for them to fall into! ;-)
@@donnie-sherrieclinton9457 id bet they know how a plane works and you til have to spend time in flight and that a compound requires different skill sets like learning to only drive an automatic transmission
I'm currently shooting at 40m, and yeah, small mistakes and everything would be a mess 😂😢
Thank you Nu! I have the hardest time explaining to people that it isn't hard, and I am not even very awesome. The place I live is SO dominated by compound archers though that people literally get scared off by not having a scope on a trad bow.
This should really help.
I was hoping in the latter half you would show how small an olympic target looks at 70m WITHOUT a misleading camera angle / close up shot - i.e taken with a lense with no zoom at eye level, looking the same as it would to the naked eye.
Otherwise, nice video as always :)
On TH-cam is a video titled "The Antient Scorton Silver Arrow 2016" (old spelling, not a typo) which is not my video (though I am in it) showing shooting at 100 yards (91.44 metres.) Every non-archer I have showed it to commented on how tiny the targets were, and that's using the 122cm large target faces.
Target Sizes:
th-cam.com/video/2RPpdVxffEM/w-d-xo.html
Same size comparison in the War Archers video:
th-cam.com/video/n2HJwTVg5LM/w-d-xo.html
@@dace48 the problem is that different lenses have different focal points, appretur, f stop, deetph of field and croped sensor vs full frame etc.
Ok so what bow would you choose the bear takedown or the black wolf (rcx-17). Love your videos btw they are really educational but at the same time very interesting.
Excellent reality check for those of us who watch archers on film! Remember the old Hollywood shorts from the 30's and 40's. Lots of takes and retakes and tricks of the camera angle, no doubt...
That is like a lot of people say I'm a great shot or whatnot, with my rifles; but I get first time shooters shooting the same targets as consistently in no time. The key is having the sights set properly for that distance, the technique isn't as critical as most think, for the type of shooting I do.
Of course, those that flinch need a bit of extra help.
I really like your videos, and, as a beginner, I'm learning a lot from you.
I find it hard to understand how recurve archers shoot outdoors from seventy meters, and compound archers shoot from fifty meters (at a smaller target). I would have thought the more powerful compound bow would shoot at targets further away than the recurve archers.
Keep up the great work.
Trevor.
The 50m target on 80cm is relatively a smaller target than 122cm at 70m. It's actually more difficult, and more of a test of precision.
Lars Andersen is impressive. He shoots accurately and quickly while moving, both hands, several techniques, no anchor, no nock point, no arrow rest, arrow from the right side etc.
And he does it with a light poundage bow and at short distances. He's a good archer, but he is not a savant.
I've been shooting for a few months now and the distance is really what makes your arrows miss. At ten metres, all in the gold, no problem. But twenty or thirty metres? I just can't wait for my own bow to arrive. Shooting with matching arrows and revealing, step by step, the faults in my technique...it is already thrilling now. The emotional reward for hitting a good shot is priceless.
All of the same points about close versus far apply to firearms as well, with different numbers.
No this is not him showing off this is him just being lazy 😂😂 if he wanted to he could just start stacking arrows to spell out his name are boy be launching Robinhood after Robinhood after Robin Hood up in here
I really would love to watch u hunt lol
Using gap aiming I was getting most of my shots in his yellow ring at 10m my second day out.
The problem you’re talking about though is distances look so so much farther on screen.
I shoot instinctive and can't even imagine shooting and hitting a target at 60 meters.
Yes, that the camera does not show the distance very well.
Much respect due to long distance shooters.
Dale, I shoot instinctive as well and 60 meters is more than do-able. I believe any of us can do it and would happily offer advice on your shooting if you would like.