Unsolved Mystery of Minecraft's Disc 5
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- Last month, we dived into the decade-old mysteries of Disc 11 & 13. Apparently, Mojang wasn't done just yet. Earlier this week, Mojang's Samuel Åberg released Disc 5, the newest addition to Minecraft's music and the first lore disc in over 10 years. In today's episode of Minecraft Uncovered, we're taking a look at the lore behind Minecraft 1.19's mysterious new music disc.
0:00 - An introduction to Disc 5.
0:48 - Sound-by-sound analysis.
04:54 - My theory on the Disc 5 lore.
11:32 - Have a good one!
Credit to MakerCraft for a portion of the introduction.
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I personally believe that the small part of an actual song we hear on Disc 5 is actually the *original* song that was on the disc, and everything else was recorded on top of the original disc, erasing it.
That's definitely possible too, but if we're looking at it from that perspective, who knows if they had the technology for piano music back in whatever ancient period the disc's contents take place in. Then again, they must've had some sort of technology for recording sound to disc, so... who knows :shrug:
I think that part is small because it isnt fully fixed yet, you just put it together. Maybe in a next big update, you can fix discs.
@@mcbyt i mean the ancient people had a very specific technology, and a very specific society, the average citizens of the cities wore leather gold or chain mail, suggesting that nether travel was common and that high tier armor was almost unheard of, and it sounds like the ancient people, similarly to steve, could not understand enchanting language and might have actually been worse at enchanting than he is, maybe it requires some sort of education to operate efficiently. Again getting back onto topic with the average technology of the most powerful common soldiers outfitted in chain mail i believe that their technology was not war based at all, so the likelyhood of other advanced technology like the ability to build these cities in the first place could be their focus, and thus music must have been common.
every advanced civilization in minecraft has had a technological focus following this, the ancient builders focused on the nether, we know this because the vast majority of zombies wear gold and the ancient portals are scattered around. and the illagers focused on resurrection, as seen by the totems. but its likely that these people had a focus on redstone technology, considering they have the most advanced redstone in the world easily beating the before seen jungle temple. and we know not everyone died at once from the warden as the builders here expiremented with the function of the skulk sensor. over all if anybody had the technology to make distribute or record disks it would be these people.
That would make sense completely as if Minecraft discs follow the same logic as real life discs then having a misplaced fragment would have the song cut in and out as the disc spins
Finally, SOMEONE acknowledges that disc 5 is literally made from disc fragments that probably didn't go together perfectly.
What's interesting about the new deep dark underground biome, and the city within, is how insanely similar it is to a mod known as extra utilities. In said mod there's a portal which leads you to "the deep dark", in the deep dark you can also find weird structures, and another interesting thing is that deep dark from extra utilities really resembles the caves of 1.18
That's actually super interesting, I didn't know about that at all! And it doesn't seem that RWTema is on their team either, which makes it extra interesting. Was it just a big chain of coincidences? Did they take inspiration and ask if they could use it? Did they straight up steal it from him? Who knows
@@mcbyt coincidence is far too unlikely, especially if you'd play it yourself. I also doubt they would just straight up steal it, them taking inspiration is probably the most likely solution, but I still believe they should have at least mentioned it
@@yndranth nah i don't think thats enough evidence to confirm anything
@@syedomar1060 play it yourself and you'll see, I'm not saying they stole something or anything, I just wanted to point out the similarities
@@yndranth I mean the pistons were originally from a mod. Then became a feature
Theory: Sculk is something special it’s not just another dimension to be explored, it’s a creature of its own. The sculk only spreads when creatures or entities are killed near it, and it converts the blocks into sculk. Suggesting it feeds on the life force (Exp of other mobs). There is no doubt in my mind that it’s from another dimension however this substance is not just existing in the overworld. It is consuming the overworld, this dimension in essential slowly hunting and killing the overworld. It is a parasitic realm seeking to spread and ingulf our own, and like most living things it has a means to defend itself aka the Warden. The Warden is merely the sculks self-defense mechanism and a form of feeding itself. The souls in in its chest are the mobs the sculk consumes, reused into a type of energy that gives life to the warden. Now although this is all very scary there is one important thing to keep in mind. To the luck of the overworld these sculk growths appeared underground in caves places were there is very little to feed its growth. It would take a long period of time for sculk to spread to from a cave system to the surface. This does present players with the opportunity to find these sculk breaches and eliminate them. That is if they can bring down the warden first…. (Sorry about all the text I get really into this stuff o-0).
A note to add:
If the skulk is blown up, it drops EXP, almost as if it were alive.
@@yamahoestella3118 Note that the scene in the disk with the portal opening noise is XP gain in reverse.
This is actually a really good point! God I love Minecraft lore 😭
I completely agree! It all makes sense
Wow this theory sounds really cool
The disc 11 has a wierd creature noise around the end, that makes me think that it is either an endersent or the warden. I feel like they share a connection.
ALSO: I feel like the piano music just randomly being placed in a recording of a city being destroyed by the warden is really creepy.
Maybe one of the people from the city played music to distract the warden so the others could go through the portal. Or maybe music opens the portal
The warden didn't originally destroy the city. There are shrines all over the place to it. Hell, even the portal is dedicated to it. Why would they go back and build shrines to the thing that killed them all? Whatever came through that portal changed it.
If you play disc 11 and disc 5 at the exact same time. When disc 11 stops, it seems like disc 5 is a continuation of disc 11. The sound is so alike, and the music from disc 5 even stops right when disc 11 stops.
Bruh.
add disc thirteen
like start with playing disc 5 then start disc 11 at the 11th second and start disc 13 and the 13th second
YES THE ENDERSENT and other mc dungeons stuff finally being recognized
YESSS
Awesome! Thanks for uploading so consistently these past few days MCBYT! Love this is style of content
3 weeks no uploads, 3 days 2 uploads. Formula for success (and thank you
My theory about the warden is that it used to live in the deep dark and it was all friendly until a virus broke out, the skulk, and infected the wardens brain and parts of the deep dark making the warden aggressive, also covering its eyes.
My theory is that an iron golem was protecting the city until the portal opened and skulk catylists appeared which infected the iron golem, and turned it into the warden. After that, the warden killed everyone and since the catylists were in the city the skulk managed to take and spread across the city from all the death.
@@thelegostarwarsf7916 But The Iron Golem looks completely different
@@Kidey11 The iron golem could have gone through mutations
@@notfantasticwaffles8765 Yeah, But the way the Warden attacks and reacts is completely different than a Iron Golem
@@Kidey11 m u t a t i o n s
I love the Endersent and hope they come to regular Minecraft:)
I honestly think that the Endersent would make perfect guardians for the End portal, given that in Dungeons they guard Eyes of Ender, and let's face it, silverfish don't really do much to prevent players from activating and jumping into the portal.
I never wouldve caught the endersent noise or the reversed sound effects, good stuff
First of all, there is probably a special reason why we don’t see endersent in the base game. In the introduction to the End-themed Minecraft Dungeons DLC, we see two endermen carry the largest fragment of a sentient artifact called the “Orb of Dominance” (which has an obvious connection to the endermen and the End in general) to an end portal. When one of the endermen enter the portal with the fragment (the other one teleported away), 6 endersent and a bunch of endermites come out of the portal. Seemingly following the Orb’s orders, 6 of the eyes of ender fly onto each of the endersent’s chests, who teleport away. In the areas we find the endersent, we see void liquid and void block infecting the area, with the endersent probably being the cause of it, which is most likely the mission the Orb sent them to do. (Also, does a goo-like substance infecting large area with a big monster guarding everything sound familiar to you?) When we get to the End, we not only find that endermites are spawning naturally, but there’s a new category of mobs called enderlings. When I first played this DLC, I concluded that both the endersent and the enderlings were directly created by the Orb, but now with Disc 5, I don’t think fully the case anymore. Now I think that they come from the same dimension that the endermites come from, a 4th dimension that endermen go through when they teleport, which has been confirmed by a developer to exist in the lore. For what any of this has to do with the deep dark, I’ll get to that later.
In an official Minecraft article describing the warped forests, it’s heavily hinted that they were crimson forests that were corrupted by the endermen, with it saying that it’s where “the Nether meets the End”. The Orb and endersent have been shown to have corruption abilities, so it’s not that far-fetched to say that that could be the case for the endermen too. In another article describing the soul sand valleys, it states that the endermen that spawn there could be “looking for something”. With this information combined, I think that the deep dark is the result of the endermen spreading their corruption through warped forests to the Overworld. It’s even popular belief that the Nether is below the Overworld, so the endermen could be using the Nether ceiling as a trans-dimensional gateway of sorts, and it would explain why the deep dark is underground. (I don’t believe that the Nether is physically below the Overworld, I just think it sort off might be below the Overworld in a different plane, and that the two can’t interact with each other unless inter-dimensional energy is involved) Every deep dark would start with one warden, more specifically a baby warden (which in my head canon is just a little blob of sculk with a mouth. It would massacre every mob it detects, allowing it to grow and evolve over time, with it eventually being able to “lay” sculk catalysts. The endermen would send more wardens to each deep dark over time, allowing the sculk to grow and expand. Eventually, an ancient civilization discovered the sculk, and they built giant cities where they can experiment with the sculk and test its capabilities. They eventually found out that the sculk was partly made of inter-dimensional/ender energy, which made them believe that they can build a portal to the dimension that endermen use to teleported. While bursts of energy sometimes occurred, the portals were never successfully fully opened. The sculk was eventually ticked off, and every resident in the cities was secretly killed off one by one, until there was no more left.
Now, for Disc 5, here’s my interpretation:
One of people who live in the cities tries to light the portal, and nothing happens. They then add more soul fire under it, and they back away (it could be that there was some guards will them, but they probably would’ve helped them at the end since they’re probably experts at dealing with wardens, and the whole atmosphere of the disc makes it sound like he’s alone), some endersent sounds can be heard, but once again, nothing, and the flame in the portal itself dies out. They relight the flame, but this time, they can her endermite sounds (which are identical to silverfish sounds), and unlike endersent, they know what endermites and they know they live on the other side of the portal. This gives them a bit of hope, and they add more soul sand to the bottom. While doing so, the portal begins to charge up again, and they add more soul sand and soul fire, but the charge once again dies out. The sculk then gets ticked off, and a bunch of nearby sculk shriekers shriek, and a warden is summoned. The person that tried to light portal digs into another cave through a nearby wall, but the warden is already there and precedes to roar and kill them.
Side note: I don’t remember there being any definite proof that there’s any time travel in the disc.
Next update is end update im calling it
What is the music in the middle, if you're already assuming that the disc was put together perfectly?
Nether isn't under Overworld, it's sub-space bubble dimension. Devs told us that many times. The advancement tells it too. Subspace bubble in other words is a wormhole.
@@LukiKruki I guess I have to repeat myself. I don’t believe that the Nether is physically below the Overworld, I just think it sort of might be below the Overworld in a different plane, and that the two can’t interact with each other unless inter-dimensional energy is involved
@@sboy2044 That's kinda is sub-space bubble
I love the Aether reference. I've wanted the Aether in Minecraft since the old days, and I still do. Maybe the dimension through that portal holds the key to getting to the Aether, after all these years. The Aether could even be untainted by the undead and other challenges made by the Ancient Builders, and there are only a few hostile mobs. Another dream is for a dimension consisting of things from the old days of Minecraft like Alpha and Beta. Maybe you can't even take your stuff into the dimension, and you can only go through the portal if you have no stuff. This could be the same for the Aether, and the portal can only load in on an island with trees in the older biome. Some changes would have to be made, some biomes added, new portal spawning requirements, and more, but this would made it new content. Back to the "Old Dimension," it could just be a biome in the overworld or something. The main thing, however, is the Aether and any other dimensions added. Hopefully the TH-camrs don't spoil it though... but that might happen anyway.
But remember, The only dimension lacking rework is the End.
The End was originally the Sky dimension during it's early development, and the Aether is likely inspired by those sky islands.
Perhaps... the ruined portal has something to do with the end? The first two-way end portal?
That actually makes me think about how weird the end portal works, how instead of going in and out of one portal, the portal in puts you on a platform in a random spot near the centre of the dimension, and you get out through a different portal that takes You to your spawn point.
It even works like this in dungeons, atleast for the entry portal.
Maybe this is a story how Warden was summend by the Player using the frame
this is so well put together. great work. what's interesting about the endersent in particular is that aside from guarding the ender eyes to activate the portal, they are also known for terraforming the land of different dimensions to something that fits the desires of the Heart of Ender, which I have to assume is the god of the end dimension (but that could very well br a stretch). maybe the reason why the army had to fight the endersent was because they perhaps were trying to access the portal to the sculk dimension?
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed
Maybe the Endersent/orb of dominance try to conquer dimensions and tried to access the deep dark thing idk just spit balling.
Just watched the other video with 11 and 13. Dude I didn’t think they had a big meaning up until now
Yeah haha, there's actually a somewhat coherent story to all 3 surprisingly
something i noticed is that mob heads fit perfectly on the reinforced deepslate top square. also, imagine if lighting the portal turned it into its former glory, the huge frame around it becoming red, and a white portal appears...
I have a more interesting theory. If you see the numbering, you see 5, 11 and 13. I think that originally there were more. From 1 to 13 or more. Some of these were lost. 5 was found, made in a strange way different to the others, similar to pigstep. This could mean that it was crafted by a different character to all the others. The 11th is cracked, meaning that some could be lost and we don't have the full story. Both of these are other worldly, apparently older than the rest due to style and condition. Then, thirteen is in better condition than the other 2. The reason we only have 5 now is because we found the location it was made in, the deep dark. It was made in a fourth reality, different to the first three. Maybe something from minecraft dungeons, maybe time travel. This would explain why the cities are ancient. This person arrived in the portal to our minecraft world a very long time ago, and had many recordings of their discoveries. Disc 5, them arriving. Disc 11, them encountering some unknown entity that could have been brought with him/her/'it' and the pursuit of the unknown beast. The beast then roars in disc 11, but they lost the rest of the recording due to something unknown. This beast could be anything. Then, thirteen, a better quality disc, but still different... as if the character is still settling in to this world, with its own style and culture. However, due to the age the disc was scratched and we couldn't hear everything, meaning we don't know what happened at the end... and the fate of this person is unknown. Likely, he set up the basic cultural idea for civilizations in the overworld, and was not accepted by the piglins who were trapped there. He arrived in the nether and exchanged ideas, but the stay was not forever. Teaching them about netherite, he left after acquiring the materials for a nether portal and built portals around the nether and overworld. He visited the end and was trapped there, for ever after attempting an escape through a new portal in the end. He took 2 recordings of these adventures, and found a primitive race of 'endermen', which may have been endersent. After making friends with them, they gave him food and supplies necessary to survive. After realizing that he would never escape, he made a final disc about this, lost in the void of the end forever... he taught the endersent to build great cities, but after the character was getting old, the endersent were being overrun by endermites, parasites that were infesting their shulker technology, which was derived by a misinterpretation of the skulk, some virus brought to the overworld by this character and heard through the ramblings of the hermit character. This character realized his destiny and trapped the endersent, who had evolved to become endermen. The character became the enderdragon. And for many centuries, the overworld was off balance, overrun by monsters. The ancient builders built ancient cities to attempt to scare away the beast from disc 11, and they used the warden to protect them. Then, they trapped the beast in the other dimension and shut the portal on the other side, all the warriors of the ancient race entering the portal to keep the evil beast trapped for all eternity, shutting the portal to the fourth dimension where the original character came from. The ending is unknown, and the rest of the ancient race split forever. Some made new civilizations. Some tried using the skulk to create advanced technology in the cities. Some tried to tell them not to, but it was too late... the city was no longer protected by the warden, protector of the portal. The experiments went wrong, the warden thought everything living was evil and trying to reopen the portal. The race tried using carpet to muffle their foot steps and built structures to pray the warden wouldn't kill them. But, over time, they realized they shouldn't live like this forever... some attempted to escape, but were killed by the warden. Many did escape, affected by the skulk which was now growing. These escapists died due to too much sunlight, as they had evolved to not survive such radiation. They lived in caves, becoming zombies and skeletons and even... creepers? Well the other side of the race which had survived were making civilizations. Meanwhile, the inhabitants of the cities where making labs and new technology. Up on the surface the civilizations developed new ideas, splitting into different people - intelligent witches, peaceful villagers and bloodthirsty illagers and pillagers who pillaged and conquered the world, leaving only several villages to survive, the rest decaying due to the skulk plague. The illagers went into caves to mine gold and emeralds, after exhausting the villages of them. They went deep, finding the cities. Quickly, they realized this place was wrong. They found survivors, exterminating them all. Then they encountered the warden. It was too powerful for them, so many fled. Those who fled died, making the cities spread. The surviving illagers built on the cities, but they didn't last. They were killed off, and the warden was at peace. The villagers made music discs, using a branched culture from the original character. However, this was before they were villagers. It was before the cities. When the ancient race were dividing. The piglins also made a disc, but they could not maintain their world after the character left. The builders entered the nether and build fortresses to prepare for something... wrong. And then, they failed. Something powerful, more so than the wither, which was a simple boss... more so than the enderdragon, the evil character. And the warden was just the keeper. More powerful than him, and more powerful than an elder guardian, also just guarding something. Some part of the underwater structures was important, worth protecting. There was a key there, prismarine, to reopen the portal. The breath of the dragon, the wither star, the prismarine shard, amethyst, netherite, gold... all part of something bigger. The beast. Then, we awake, not knowing where we came from. But after discovering the music discs, you know that you are similar to the creator, maybe from the same race and an experiment to bring you here went wrong. You are the last one, a race older than the ancient builders. Something that knew it all. But... you are missing your memory, and you have a long mission. And the advancement how did we get here is a good clue. It gives an image of a heart of the sea. This is important somehow, a key... but you have to open it?
What caught my attention to the disc is the short music suddenly played in the middle of the disc's audio
The music is soo nice though, it sounds pleasing and calming.
Perhaps somebody played this before their life was taken away by the creature because it is their favorite music...
Or, what if the whole music is the key to open the portal and a way to calm the warden down
Maybe the disc was recorded in a different period of time
My imagination is messing with me again💀
Maybe this "aether music" comes after the end when the portal is lit and the player likely steps through to save themselves from the warden
The music discs 5, 11, and 13 played at the same time actually make a coherent story. My theory is that they are updating the End biome specifically to add a new disc that adds to it. Likely number 7. At which point it should be complete. If you listen to all three of them at once, it sounds like they light the fires, and charge the portal with amethyst. At which point disaster hits. Very cool, very interesting.
Now we just need someone to play the 3 creepy disc’s at the same time
I did that yesterday. It syncs up really well. My theory on why they want to update the End biome before adding a new dimension is that they are going to add a new music disc, likely number 7.
Just a small detail I found. There is actually a third line above "the ambients" at around 17k. The three lines go from 1:095 to 1:135 in the track. and the "figure" is just the sound of the silverfish mentioned. I dont know about the lines but there are thre of them.
your video has excellent pacing and progression. Instant sub. And the concepts you thought of! its incredible how much food for thought you served here haha.
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed! And yeah haha, there have been a lot of interesting theories and it seemed that nobody had noticed the spectrogram info so I thought it would be nice to put them all together
this is such an awesome video HIGHLYYY underrated for the work put into it
ENJOYED EVERY SECOND
Haha, thanks so much, super happy you enjoyed :)
seeing as you can find the otherside disc very prominently throughout the ancient city and that fact that it's such a happy song it makes me believe that whatever is on the "Other side" of the ancient city portal is like a upside down overworld and there's a boss that once you defeat is either the true ending of the game or since sculk usually grows when things die near it will be a completely new dimension once you destroy that boss and you will basically free that dimension of it's constant turmoil
I really love all the effort you put in to your videos. You're confident and you know what you're talking about. I see the attention to detail in your videos and I love it! Keep up the great work. :)
I feel like we might actually be getting another dimension since the three we have HAVE been improved. 1: end cities, 2: caves and cliffs update with deepslate and the deepdark added as well, 3: nether biomes and striders. These updates improve the three we have so a new update made from the person who made the aether and a "portal" being added may hint to a boss beyond the end?
The warden boss, a massive creature that deals 16 million hearts of damage, has 10,000 health and spawns wardens every time you hit it… (Joke)
@@Jake_Sherrell bruh
thatss not a joke thats downright terrifying
whoa a new disc that's insane looking forwards to watching this
i know right? like this was SO unexpected and i couldn't be happier, this is honestly the most interesting thing to drop since the nether update
@@mcbyt New mobs are good and all but new terrain and uncovering the new lore is so much more fun
I think that maybe, when we hear the warp sound were actually going in the past, considering the reversed XP sound making it sound like it's rewinding, and then suddenly we hear the aether soundtrack, and in the last part we hear the sounds of skulk sensors and a warden which could based on my theory mean, the new dimension that they're adding is maybe what was the aether in the past and something went wrong, corrupting the whole dimension and it turns into a skulky dark dimension or something like, some of the skulk leaking out of the portal, explaining the weird portal frame located in the ancient city, maybe the ancient city was a peaceful city in the past with access to the aether dimension, which after some time got corrupted.
there's one thing I don't know if you've considered but I've seen it briefly elsewhere before and it might ring true if anyone wants to look deeper into it but- what if the disc is fragmented in the wrong order? Like, since the player is the one building the disc, it could be that they've put the pieces in the wrong place, some even backwards, and if someone were to rearrange what would probably be 9 different section of the disc (since you need 9 fragments to craft it) it would tell a more coherent story that doesn't skip around at all
Idk I haven't tried it myself but it sounded like an interesting theory when I saw it
oh yeah also couldn't the glass breaking sound be the nether portal closing sound? I think both are either the same or very simillar
Yeah, I mentioned that theory in the video, not sure if that would work
Seems like it’s a story of what happened to the people in the ancient cities. You can hear soldiers marching, underground ambience sounds, deepslate breaking, a kind of portal sound. And at the end, a sculk sensor (or warden tendril) clicks and then the warden roars.
No jukeboxes were harmed in the making of this video.
Let's hope not
Thanks for another awsome video! can't wait to watch it
Of course, I hope you enjoy :)
8:52 I see a warden is that just me?
I can see where you'd picture that! The big block of audio with the lines sticking out to the side resemble it, but the other line going through the head and the lack of a clear mouth make me think that's not necessarily the case
@@mcbyt I can see an enderman in the middle
You killing mobs and mining without enchanted gear is so calming but i cant explain how
One strange fact about the disc 11 that many dont know is that you can actually find it in a one other place than dungeons,abanded mineshafts etc. You can actually find it in the legacy editions minigames lobby (the new one) inside a old cobbwebby storage room/basement locket behind iron doors. You can open this by finding a secret lever that opens the iron doors. The reason this is interesting is that it is in a minecrafts official lobby... (yes you can find the other discs too there but they are definetly not as at freaky place as the disc 11)
Very nice narration! Im getting a bit distracted by the video footage during the first part though. Would be nice with something like in the second part of the video :)
My Theory:
The Music Disc 5 presents a Player, a Human trying to light the Deep Dark City Portal.
But the Player has to pass throught the Warden... So they try making experiments...
They try Lava to kill it, Amethyst to calm it, (i think the Marching is the Player calling some kind of Guards from Villagers or Temples), or something like that...
As shown in the Disc, you can hear Sculk Sensors. Meaning that Sculk has alredy spreaded throught the City, so there are no Humans there. So the idea of "Guards of the City Marching" would also make no Sense, since they have the Warden.
About the Endersent, i have no idea. But it's good to know that (Lorewise), Ancient Builders left the City and got to the End Portal. And Endersent are famous to carry Eyes of Ender in their Chest! Also, Strongholds now only generate about the same World-Height (Y) as Ancient City!
So maybe the Player even wants to go to the End (just like all the other humans). But he needed the Eye of Ender, and the only mob that spawns with these are Endersent.
But i still think the idea of "The Disc is found in Fragments so the player just bends everything together in any way" is likely true. Since the events cannot be put in a Timeline.
Notice how disc 11 is cracked in its texture. Could it be the missing piece of disc 5 that was confused with a potential piece from disc 11? They are also the same color with just sculk growing on 5.
heres my theory:
after disc 11, an enderman attacks the player coming out of the cave and teleports it to the deep dark city in the past. the player lights the ground and guards begin to approach the player, throwing it into a pit full of sculk and an enderscent. a piece of sculk catches onto the player, and slowly infects it as the enderscent attacks it, somehow taking it to the future in the same city this time in front of a big portal frame ( the one we see in the current deep dark) and a lava pool behind it. the player goes through the portal taking to a dimension full of dangerous creatures and the player falls. it quickly builds back up to the portal, and goes through it again. it somehow travels through time again, and this time a lot more into the future (the present deep dark). the player falls backwards into a pool of water and looks ahead at the portal which is now broken. as it gets up it lights the ground and looks into the reflection of the water and its turned into the warden. it lets out a growl and the disc cuts out
maybe the enderscent growl came from and enderscent coming out of the portal, made out of reinforced deepslate. since it looks like a portal, it could’ve been a new realm to where the enderscent lies.
providing the visuals with the disc really helped to explain it, great video! also the part when the music starts playing is so calm but creepy, it sounds like backrooms music
Thanks so much! Yeah, put a ton of effort into these, I'm glad they turned out well :) Happy you enjoyed!
the "time warpy" sounds are the same sounds as gaining XP, as you mentioned. it could be that due to how skulk reacts to entities dying near it, perhaps it feeds and grows from that, thus gaining XP in its own way. Perhaps a creature like the warden, with a close tie to the skulk, also grows stronger from its slain enemies.
I like to view the skulk as the real threat, like a sort of fungal infection feeding off of the life around it. A parasitic relationship. Makes you wonder if the warden really is an enemy afterall, or just an unfortunate victim to the skulk? either way I like how much creativity minecraft allows for. what a wonderful game.
This will probably be lost in the comments but I feel like there's some inspiration from half life alyx with some of this stuff
The warden is very similar to "Jeff" in that they are both incredibly strong terrifying looking blind enemies who attack sources of noise
And the end of half life alyx has lots of time slow downs and distorted music that's unlike anything else from the franchise and spatial distortions with it finally ending with a rewrite to the timeline
I have a theory. We can hear “time warps” in the disc. So my theory is that the story we hear in the disc is not in order. The roar we hear in the beginning has no connection to the first part. So what if we rearrange the different part maybe the disc will make more sense.
Maybe listen to it backwards?
Maybe herobrine coming out of the portal with a army he built for revenge on Steve and the wardens are his attack dogs?
XD
the best guess I can make about the piano music is that it is a flashback to when the city was a glamorous place of culture and fine arts before being destroyed/abandonned, just like the marching sounds in the beggining showing their civilizations' military might.
I personally think that Minecraft has a timeline, First the ancient tale of Minecraft Legends when the overworld unites, then Normal Minecraft, Then the modern Minecraft Dungeons with the upgraded weapons and new items along with the new mobs
Great vid like always
Thanks so much
I think the 80s melody part was maybe a reference to the local 58 series...It just gives me that 80s broadcast vibe
1-Ancient civilization army light the portal and march into it.
2-the new dimension is beautiful (probably has a lot of skulk on the other side (hence the pleasant song)
3- the army does not return. They all presumably die and their dropped xp helps skulk spread back into the ancient city.
4-gradually, the skulk spawn shriekers and sensors that now spawn the warden in the ancient city.
5- the civilization couldn't handle the warden since it was too strong of a force and people start dying to it.
6-dead people=xp drops which spread the skulks even more.
7-years have passed and the ancient city is overthrown by the warden and the skulks.
8-the city portal finally reopens and a lone survivor re emerges from it only to find nothing was left of the city they once thrived in. (Possible time dilation going on here. The army spent a few days inside the portal but the ancient city went through years of transformation)
9- in his desperation and despair, he made a noise causing the skulk sensor to alert the warden, spawning it.
10- thus the last surviving member of the ancient civilization perished.
Im half Greek, and Half a Cypriot, and whats crazy is that, In cyprus history, there was a warden called, digenis, was guarding a city in cyprus, called Kerynia, and warriors from another country attacked, they got scared and started running as he chased them, he tried to catch them but he missed and hit a mountain and printed his fingers to the mountain, in cyprus we call it, O pentadaxtylos, the myths said that he was big, and a warden, so minecraft might be refrencing to a Greek myth...
5:14 i wouldn't necessarily say scraping isnt in the game. this disc is basically lore, and I don't see why there wouldn't be scraping considering it is from the pov of a character *IN* the game. anyways a theory i had at 3:48 is that the thudding is from one of the creatures that are now the nether fossils found in the soul sand valley.
Edit: another thing i noticed is that the portal looking structure sort of looks like the warden, with a gaping mouth and the two things on the side *sort of* looking like the horns on the warden (a third edit, you mentioned this)
Another edit lol: i wonder if the sound of EXP being collected at 2:13 is someone or someone being killed in front of the gaurds, like an execution and their EXP then being collected.
4th edit oh my lord: 11:04 i dont necessarily agree with this but its completely possible. i dont think the warden came from the other side of the portal. instead i think the warden is actually there gaurding the portal, after the city has fallen and it was created by the last people of the city. after all the definition of warden is "a person responsible for the supervision of a particular place or thing or for ensuring that regulations associated with it are obeyed." i completely believe the portal is heavily guarded because something more dangerous than the warden is inside. i think the sound of the portal opening followed by the warden is the player getting attacked by the warden, resulting in the characters death, the deactivation of the portal, and possibly what shattered the disc.
MCBYT: "Minecraft has no way to stop time"
Me with a time stop mod: ZA WARUDO
I think I have a good one,
So the actual music is actually something that calms the warden distracting it
My theory is that the Ancient City used to be, well, a city, created by people from above, after the possible summoning of the wither, they decided to hide underground. Years and years pass, and people try to make a huge portal, trying to find a new realm that the people could hide in, knowing the Wither may find them any day, but when they open the portal, monsters race through the portal, and the knights and warriors fight the monsters, but as they try to fight, the monsters start overcoming, but as the battle rages on, someone breaks the portal, and monsters stop coming through, and as the humans continue, they are able to kill off a few more monsters, but the final few humans take out almost all the beast, but one, the Warden kills the last few with a sonic blast, leaving the Warden in this new city, as sculk begins to cover this town, and this city, was the Wardens domain now.
sorry for the long comment, hope you enjoyed
What if the Melody is a sound to distract the warden from the player, so the player can avoid the warden and Run away, this aggressive block placement is the player trying to build behind him to cover. And after the song stops playing, the player decides to place/destroy amethyst so he can distract the warden again to run away.
the reason why the disc are in fragments, is because the people in the city, starts fighting and the shattered disc and they keep them at random places in the city
I believe the skulk isn't some otherworldy alien moss or whatever but the angered an vengful souls of the passed. Let me explain, the portal thing we see in the deep dark may not be a portal to a different world but a portal to an already familiar minecraft dimension. The end, these portals may be the original portals to get to the end before there was endstone. And as seen in minecraft dungeons, which is also canon. Soul energy is a major thing that was used in many things and maybe the lrice to enter the other world may be just that, soul energy and the portal required a sacrifice. This is what would explain why we hear what seems to sound like a endersent from minecraft dungeons near the beginning and why we hear many footsteps or marching which could be the illagers patrolling the deep dark.
Imo it was a wither wreaking havoc in the ancient city because there are some sounds that are like a wither's
It alerted the warden which led the warden to fight the wither and just... killed it, although the damage the wither caused was too large.
The most likely reason to why the "happy music" on disc 5 seems out of place is because the recording on disc 5 is overlaid on a normal disc that had that happy music, this also happens with 11 since there is a version of 11 in music version which is called "eleven" which is normal music like the one from disc 5, this musical version of disc 11 is on the c418 channel (the creator of the original soundtrack of minecraft) and judge that disc 11 have a missing part, we could say that the missing part is "eleven"which was the normal 11 disc before being overlaid by a recording
I think the song was sort of a way to describe what the city looked like before the people summoned the warden which they had worshipped. But as we all know.....they made a big mistake and where all killed which helped spread the sculk further.
This theory has desribe every scenes I can think about the disc 5, ecxept the piano melody part. My theories, I think when start of the disc 5, the protagonist is on the run away from something like guards or new type of Golem I think in the future, he still on the way, using flint and steel to light the road up in the cave. Then, found an Acient City, the piano melody turn on, and we have a scenes transition surounding the city past history and let us see what was happened to the Ancient City that make it so corupted. This story have a lot of myteries that cant tell
If only there was a type of heavy golem in the Minecraft Universe that is usually seen walking with an army oh wait *redstone golem noises*
You should listen to 5,11 and 13 all together it sounds like it all fits together
I think theres some backstory behind minecraft. Maybe connected to the structures that generate throughout the game. Perhaps there was someone here before, Either a civilization or maybe just a few people, who built this stuff and were killed off by the wardens. Or maybe the player is only one link in a chain of explorers who spawn into the world.
Check out Retrogamingnow's lore videos. :)
Yeah, when it was first released I doubt there was a story but I wouldn't be surprised if the last few years of updates have been working on placing lore behind it.
I think that there is a certain amount of discs that that tell a story but we only have parts of the story, discs 5, 11, 13 so there could be for example 30 numbered discs but we only have 3 of them
If you pay proper attention, simultaneously with the warden roar you can hear a slowed down death sound of a wither. so maybe the thuds were explosions, and the protagonist is trying to escape through the portal.
2:20 I found a comment from a different video that the piano part is same as the ice scream theme which really eerie and you know that the calmness of it is like the true horror haha
i think the disc follows the perspective of the warden. marched by the army in chains to the portal and forced through. the panic in the block placing and the fire is definitely a desperate attempt of survival in the new dimension and just as he’s about to return to the city, he gets possessed or something by the skulk and it destroys/transforms him into the warden we know now. once the new corrupt warden returns he spreads the skulk from the other dimension throughout the city in his wake and wherever he goes in the caves. possibly the warden esque patterns in the city aren’t actually of the warden but of a new ender dragon tier boss which dwells in the new dimension which the inhabitants of the city worshipped as a deity of judgement
Minecraft being canon to Minecraft Dungeons is a shock and surprising that nobody else, not even MatPat has talked about!
Now, I do have another question: Is Minecraft: Story Mode canon to Minecraft as well or is it separate as I thought?
I would imagine story mode is separate, but games like Minecraft Earth might (have been) part of the canon!
@@mcbyt that could be interesting tbh! But I doubt it since Minecraft Earth seems like it takes place in its own universe with our world map.
In terms of the map, maybe not canon, but mobs/items/blocks/etc could be
@@mcbyt That's a good point. Seeing, as you mentioned, the Endersent can be heard in the new disk!
One way Minecraft: Story Mode could be canon is if the Minecraft Movie, as theorized by Valiksium64, would be a recreation of Minecraft: Story Mode.
I wouldn't say I count on it happening but it might be interesting as I theorize if that's the case, then the story of MCSM takes place during the times of the Ancient Builders.
the captions in this video hold more speech than spoken, interesting little secret within a secret explaining video!
has anybody else noticed that the end of 5 aligns perfectly with the start of 11?
י״א
י״ג
׳ה
11
13
5
יאיגה!
Yaiga!
The Yaiga dimension!
1:20 full diamond with netherite axe and still just made diamonds achievement. XD
Also very nice vid and chanel! Keep it up! :)
Haha, yeah, I usually give myself a random set of armor/tools for survival clips in videos and see how long I can last. I mine for the materials in personal worlds/servers and everything, but spending 7 hours to get the gear for a 10 minute video clip seems a bit overkill LOL
@@mcbyt yeah i agree!
the noise after the warden screams can also sound like wither dying but sped up.
Btw, If You never noticed:
On *spotify ONLY,* Disc 11 has some actual music, and its kinda sad and performed great
Also i dont think there are numbers for the discs bc of its time, I Think TIME…. *is running out, and we need to do something. Also it explains why we are in a time paradox in disc 5. OR maybe it involves with the new dimension and it involves with… THE SNIFFER… We are probably going back into time before sniffers were extinct.*
It kind of sounds like at the end, someone is building up a tower with blocks - possibly the protagonist to the portal, though that wouldn't make much sense if it was the same person who lit it - but maybe the activation of the portal was so strong that it sent a wave of energy back that knocked him off and he needed to get back on.
I'm not sure but I think the marching might mean that there used to be soldiers protecting it and as they got older and died they created the warden and That's why he looks like this and he's mad and he has to protect the portal
the amethyst could be a key, like to the red stone room under the portal
There is one really weird track that has always intrigued me. I don't know if it goes as deep as these, but I'd know more about it! It's called "The End". Please consider looking into it!
I'll definitely look into it, thanks for the suggestion!!
I love your explanations
Thank you :)
If Dungeons and regular Minecraft share a universe, could Dungeons (and pretty soon Legends) take place back when the ancient builder(s) ruled the lands? Until more details come out, this is my head canon
i think the disc 5 was being created, but then someone tried to intrude the city, explaining the marching of the guards, but they let there guard down, and little did they know that the skulk virus had an infected human being, he was in the warped forest. the warped forest could be a place that the skulk had tried to take over but couldn't because of the harsh conditions explaining the blue color. once the infected had made a nether portal into the ancient city, the city had finished the arrest, so the people making the disc continued, explaining the piano tune. after they had there guard back up, the infected had spread the virus to an ancient protector that we don't know about, but after it had the virus, it had become something much more powerful...the warden. While the warden fought off the defenses, the human went to create a portal in the center of the city, he lit it and the entire skulk virus came through, that's how the ancient city fell. That's probably not what happened, I'm just sick and really bored.
Is it possible that the portal in the deep dark is actually a portal to the minecraft dungeons world?
I don't know, but that would be a super cool idea haha
At 7:24 the 22 second piano melody is maybe a time warp to the start cause after the 22 second piano melody the warden is back again that's why I think its a time warp
I think that at the end of the disk, it isn’t a portal or sword unsheathing, but a sculk sensor activating, therefore triggering the Warden to “roar”
Im a Minecraft Dungeons guy. I hear some few sounds of endersent in disc 5.
it was just shriekers and souls
I hope we can get the weird creepy ACTUAL music on its own some how lol
The soundtrack for the deep dark is kinda creepy
Tbh I believe that Minecraft dungeons is probably a prequel to Minecraft
I think it is more of a sequel.
@@big_axolotl_ nah
More like end update
My theory is that this is the marching of an army near a stronghold; mayhap a connection between Ancient Cities and strongholds. The endersent could be suggesting a connection to minecraft dungeon's dimensions. Also, maybe the warden is involved: containment? I haven't finished the entire thing, and the flint and steel sounds like a portal. Maybe an opening of a portal to contain something like a warden and/or an enderesent?
Watching this before bed 😁
The different parts could be the different fragments of the disc used to craft the full one
I think that the warden was summoned to kill the wither but was too late (you can hear a wither in the sounds)
My Theory: notch was originaly making deep dark a normal underground village and while he was working on a new disc that would be playing in the underground he realized what the music sounded like. Another theory is that maybe the concept that he imagined didn't match perfectly so he got a concept of making The Warden him showing everyone that he wasn't paying attention to how it looks and made it with his heart
Great video! :)
But I want to see the full video at 0:30 it is very interesting!! :o
It is! I believe the full version is this video by MakerCraft: th-cam.com/video/nDZvvF-tvEM/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy :)
(and thank you
@@mcbyt Thx!
of course!
@@mcbyt I think you should put credits for that video, before he watch the video :)
I can't add credits once I upload a video, but I do want to find a way to add more credits in my videos for any time I take small clips from other people. Obv it's fair use, but they still deserve credit. I'm thinking maybe having a rolling credits over the outro?
what audio visualizer are you using? i'd like to look through audio files like to see if i could find anything that may help but i cant find anything like yours
I made mine custom in Adobe After Effects :)
The spectrogram, if you mean that, is from Academo
Maybe the giant ring in the middle of the ancient city, was supposed to reach the realities of minecraft legends and or minecraft dungeons, but instead it went to a world infected by skulk and brought it to the city thus infecting it.
My theory was brought here from the start of Mc legends when foresight knowlege and action brong the player from normal minecraft to their world using a portal thingy.
theory : the disk warns us about a maybe new boss/mega warden
the flint and steel lights up the weird portal in the deep dark
orginally i think that the boss could be in a lost dimention lost to history
Until today.
Play it with 11 and 13 all at the same time.