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  • Drag Tractor vs Traction Engine

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  • @cjbalke8691
    @cjbalke8691 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That high-HP, streamlined modern diesel tractor never had a chance. Purely an excercise in humor.

  • @yoimalex
    @yoimalex 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was at a county days last weekend, there were 5 traction engines there. I asked the owner what the torque numbers at 1 rpm of the flywheel from the steam box was. He didnt know but at 10 rpm it produced 2800 ft pounds of torque on an 18 hp 1918 case. Weight was 21,000 pounds. If you run the numbers with gearing multiplied thats over 6 times more tractive effort than a 500 hp road tractor. Very slow though.

  • @MillerMeteor74
    @MillerMeteor74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This video is hilarious. I never get tired of watching it.

  • @FFS__Dave
    @FFS__Dave 10 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I love the way the steam engine lets the john Deere have a chance and then takes control any time he wants

    • @ajayrana3014
      @ajayrana3014 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      david wardle xxx.. video

    • @Bluegoose-df7if
      @Bluegoose-df7if 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      david wardle yep

    • @gamingclipz7309
      @gamingclipz7309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the fact the only reason steam won is how they connected em

    • @luca.vantstraat
      @luca.vantstraat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamingclipz7309 c'mon man steam is just better.

  • @stringbean1955
    @stringbean1955 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Note the angle of the connection too, which go worse as the Deere dug in. His weight was pulling the big boy down, helping him maintain traction, and the big boy was essentially lifting the Deere off it's traction patch. That, combined with the weight and torque differences ended it before it began.

  • @damiencrossley7497
    @damiencrossley7497 8 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    New Tractor: Look at my speed ya can't touch this ! You're still just starting!
    Old tractor: Gimme a sec to school ya!

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its called weight :-)

    • @rucarnuts13
      @rucarnuts13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +flight2k5 And torque. Steam engines make immense amounts of it, and they deliver 100% of said torque at 0 RPM.

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr. Weird thats not true.

    • @renegadeoflife87
      @renegadeoflife87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Old tractor: Oh you're tugging on me? That's nice, keep trying.
      He wasn't getting started, he had a full head of steam ready to go. At worst the engine was on top dead center and needed a push to get it started.
      The traction of a steam traction engine is hard to beat. That diesel didn't stand a chance.

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      renegadeoflife87 i sure hope since youre such a fanboy, you farm using a steam tractor.

  • @BalticFilms144
    @BalticFilms144 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've seen 1 steam tractor take out 2 diesel tractors. Goes to show the weight and the power of those old things

  • @bahn2452
    @bahn2452 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Title should be "How to plow using only two tractors"

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The ole Russian plow.

  • @harleyinglis5360
    @harleyinglis5360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:16
    New tractor: But dad i dont wanna go! WAAAA!!!
    Old tractor: You are coming home to do your home work.
    New tractor: NOOOOO!!!!! *wheels spin*

  • @bradleyreams1026
    @bradleyreams1026 9 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    WEIGHT > Steamer is WAAAAYYY heavier than the JD

    • @willmatters9017
      @willmatters9017 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brad R. Pickens Has more torque as well

    • @stamantheshaman
      @stamantheshaman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Will Matters Brad R. Pickens and the line pulls the JD upwards and there is less friction with the ground. Thats why the JD loses(for these 3 reasons)....

    • @fededevi1985
      @fededevi1985 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Will Matters I really doubt that the steam thing has more torque (at the wheel) than that tractor with the lowest gear.

    • @willmatters9017
      @willmatters9017 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Federico Devigili The "tractor" which i think you are talking about (John Deere) is used in tractor pulling competitions, they are geared high as shit. There is no gear as low as the traction engine.

    • @zekayman
      @zekayman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Federico Devigili The lower the RPM in a steam engine, the more torque it produces. At this speed, the traction engine has many times the torque of the tractor.

  • @CliffFoxKU4GW
    @CliffFoxKU4GW 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It takes that old steam engine a few seconds to get going, but when it does there's no stopping it!

  • @Thaddeus3rd
    @Thaddeus3rd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it never gets old. I watch this all the time.

  • @Rangerdog12
    @Rangerdog12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Pulling is mainly about weight so no doubt who whould win.

    • @Seigin1
      @Seigin1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      torque m8 :)

  • @hendrikpingel4847
    @hendrikpingel4847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    to save jonnys honor: they are tied together in a way the deere is lifted a little, so the heavy steam tracktor gets even heavier...

    • @ashleydemoss4609
      @ashleydemoss4609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh, the steam tractor is giant! There is no way a diesel could beat a steamer.

  • @rkshireygames
    @rkshireygames 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It may have less horsepower, but the torque to rpm is outstanding on those traction engines.

  • @Bluegoose-df7if
    @Bluegoose-df7if 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Now we need a Diesel locomotive and a steam locomotive playing tug of war

    • @ronanvave560
      @ronanvave560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that definitely needs to be a thing!

  • @3rdGenGuy
    @3rdGenGuy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    18 horsepower and like 1,300 Lb-ft
    steam cars were nicknamed the hand of God cuz of the stupid amount of torque.

  • @madjimms
    @madjimms 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Steam engines are torque MONSTERS!

    • @idasmith8644
      @idasmith8644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      [Nephew of Ida] I read this steam engines had 245hp, and this 1904!!!

    • @BL-yj2wp
      @BL-yj2wp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ida Smith It's not about the power (hp or kW) but about the torque (Nm or ft/lbs) - well, in this case traction (due to mass) is the limiting factor.
      But anyway, a steam tractor delivering 110hp has about 4000Nm of torque while a modern heavy farming tractor (Fendt 390) has 390hp and about 1600Nm of torque. The "John Deere" in this video is a specialized custom build vehicle for tractor pulling, has a few thousand hp and Idk how much torque.

    • @srinusrinu2362
      @srinusrinu2362 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      madjimms

    • @fastmail55
      @fastmail55 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Behold the Power Of Steam...

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      B L horsepower is just torque done over time. So technically is is still about power. Torque is half the equation for power.

  • @445CR
    @445CR 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha, I love when they start pulling. You can just see the drag tractor thinking "I'm winning i'm winning!....doh!...the traction engine had been put in gear yet"

  • @LortronMedia-Entertainment
    @LortronMedia-Entertainment 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    No comparison, steam has brutal power and torque. Combined with the weight of the old behemoth there would never be a chance for the John Deere even if they brought in a bigger one.

  • @rigardt548
    @rigardt548 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For all the critics, steam enjine is more than a hundred years old. Doesn't matter what the disadvantage for the JD it is very,very impressive for that beautiful old machine to live up to the challenge.

    • @MrDalek2150
      @MrDalek2150 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Technically no the Steam Engine is over 300 years old. As the first steam engine was built in 1698 by I believe it was Thomas Savery or something like that. The Steam Locomotive is over 175 years old as the first well known one was built in 1825, Traction Engines aka the Steam powered vehicle you see here are over 100 years old as I believe the first one was built in 1900.

    • @MrDalek2150
      @MrDalek2150 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and there's Steam Ships which are about 200 years old as well, I believe.

    • @cheaprushkryfialekw193
      @cheaprushkryfialekw193 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Rigardt Robberts THIS IS CONCRETE EVIDENCE OF THE SO CALLED "PROGRESS". THERE IS NO PROGRESS OTHER THAN THAT OF DECEPTION FOR THE SHEEPLE BEING TAXED FOR FARTING

    • @NikolajHansen
      @NikolajHansen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrDalek2150 This is a rotary type steam engine though and that was invented by James Watt. I think he patented the first one.

    • @tadwyn
      @tadwyn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Nikolaj Hansen The traction steam engine shown is not a rotary steam engine.

  • @ignasanchezl
    @ignasanchezl 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the angle of the bar means the traction, because when it pulls it lifts the deere

    • @Karsten3
      @Karsten3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. I was about to say this, but thought I'd browse through the comments first.
      Why are we the only ones seeing this?
      I agree that weight and friction are factors on this game, but the pull-off would have been more fair had the bar been horizontal.
      (I still think the steam engine would have won, though. Just not as easily)

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      its the same on all videos xD

    • @p3hwn1e
      @p3hwn1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And yet it digs itself into the ground..

    • @megaawell
      @megaawell 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p3hwn1e Yep... Think of this theory, if you took any spinning blade, and slammed it strait into the ground, it would stop.. VS taking that spinning blade, and gently let it to the earth, it would proceed to cut a hole as it micro'd its way into the dirt.

  • @hiyadroogs
    @hiyadroogs 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A turbocharged pro tractor like this probably develops around 800 hp. The traction engine possibly develops as much as 75 hp @ 100 rpm. Traction is of course a big factor, but even on tarmac the result would be the same. The reason is that it's very difficult to get the diesel on full boost from a standing start before the clutch goes in, while the traction engine develops peak torque from stationary. It's hard to argue with 3000 ft/lbs at the crank even before its geared 5:1 to the rear wheel.

  • @masterofgofaster
    @masterofgofaster 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What we have here is a demonstration of torque vs horsepower. The Steam Traction Motor has massive torque, the ability to do work at a very low rpm. The JD has much more HP (torque x time) but it has to rev much higher causing the steam traction motor to win every time. Also the JD would win in a contest of top speed every time.

    • @StefanBlurr
      @StefanBlurr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      + the steam tractor is way heavier than JD ;)

    • @Hole_Motorsports
      @Hole_Motorsports 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more so weight and traction than anything else.

    • @shexdensmore
      @shexdensmore 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      sjpro1 that's what I was thinking too.

  • @25gwolfable
    @25gwolfable 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    now that's what I call using a John Deere for a rototiller

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield6451 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm sure that old engine weighs at least 3 times as much. ...Entertaining nonetheless.

  • @islamicland1702
    @islamicland1702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old one is a torque monster and plus point has a high weight. So, High weight and Monstrous torque make a great machine.

  • @LeePresson
    @LeePresson 10 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Please PLEASE promise us you'll take the money you made from your 1.7 million views and buy a pro version of Movie Video Converter!

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or just use an open source program like VLC lmao

  • @RobertL78
    @RobertL78 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:14 Steam engine operator: "Oh wait, let me take this thing out of neutral"

  • @dh190852
    @dh190852 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like the diesel would make a good plow?

  • @cid4887
    @cid4887 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    respect your grandparent kiddo.

  • @NOMADdaf
    @NOMADdaf 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are all right the weight is a key factor as well as the angle of the strap which steals the traction from the deere and transfers it to the steam engine. The deere would work faster but if you are pulling more plows or tree stumps the steam wins hands down.

  • @seppomuppit
    @seppomuppit 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1 million horse power couldn't save that little tractor because of the weight disparity and the poor surface.

    • @ardenblayney1324
      @ardenblayney1324 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually its all about torque not horsepower.

    • @jamesbuckley6483
      @jamesbuckley6483 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Arden Blayney No, it's about weight.

    • @Andy-df5fj
      @Andy-df5fj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ardenblayney1324
      Weight=traction without which, no amount of horsepower or torque will do any good.

  • @1barak1
    @1barak1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    tow points are not leveled... not a fair fight. tractor is being pulled up so its losing traction while the steam tractor is being pulled down giving it more traction.

    • @Early_2K
      @Early_2K 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      haha that little green thing would NEVER win no matter how you look at it.

    • @Saurucow
      @Saurucow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Steam engine = TORQUE!!!!!

    • @techmaven5900
      @techmaven5900 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ben Dover Correct. In a fair pull the tangent should be level. I still think the old timer would have won.

    • @bradelinagomez1161
      @bradelinagomez1161 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ben Dover Irrelevant. Once the JD dug in, the traction surface wrapped the wheels changing impact of the traction vector, anyway. Didn't help the JD one bit.
      Also irrelevant is whether one can tow the other. The key question for any tractor is how much work can be done. Power is Work over time. Sure, the steam tractor can move a huge weight, but it is slow. Therefore the work it can accomplish in the same amount of time is less. It has less power, end of story. Unless you're going to pull over a house, like somebody else said, all that torque is useless.
      This was simply a meaningless display for entertainment, and I found it to be quite entertaining.

    • @user-iz8tp7po2v
      @user-iz8tp7po2v 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ben Dover This is the best explanation!

  • @allischalmerswd
    @allischalmerswd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like comparing A gear driven drill press to A belt driven one.

  • @n238900
    @n238900 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was listening to Beastie Boys while I watched this and "You gotta fight! For your right! To Parrrttttyyyyy!" came on just as that steam engine showed that deere what's up.

  • @Syrnian
    @Syrnian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Weight plus steam and you have a winner.

  • @CAESARbonds
    @CAESARbonds 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cool Video.
    One needs to know that steam engines develop a dremendeous ammount of torque, even at 0 rpm.
    they don't need a clutch and don't need to idle.

    • @JoshuaZiesmer
      @JoshuaZiesmer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      actually the steam tractors do have a clutch, that way they can run the PTO (belt) without the tractor moving-the PTO is direct drive, but there is a clutch in the flywheel for when they want to move the tractor

    • @sparky11298
      @sparky11298 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      josh ziesmer there are only clutches on american engines all british engines don't if u want to power something from the fly wheel u just take it out of gear this is a british engine

    • @CAESARbonds
      @CAESARbonds 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for all the explanations.

    • @robiskumar1759
      @robiskumar1759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sparky11298
      Xerox

  • @N4w4k
    @N4w4k 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering... what kind of video converter software did you use?

  • @ylwpyro9549
    @ylwpyro9549 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Just keep in mind, the Traction Engine does not have as much HP behind it as the new John Deere does, it's simply due to the fact that the Traction Engine is far heavier (some weighed as much as 100 tons) than the John Deere. It's fairly evident that the Deere struggles to pull it even when stationary, as seen before the Traction Engine begins to move.
    With that said, an amazing display of power by both machines.

    • @defender1006
      @defender1006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the 'Traction Engine weighed more than the Tractor did, BUT it's the fact that one produces its peak torque from the 'off' and the other needs to well up into it's rev range and moving at the appropriate speed so needing the grip/traction to do that, the 'Traction engine' deigns them of that.
      Some years ago I was on a steam hauled train of some 12/13 coaches leaving from Penzance heading towards Plymouth, despite the age of the two GWR Locomotives, both 80+ years old at the time, they were so good at doing what they were built to they had to slow down as they were making 'HST' time and catching the 'service train' in front and in Somerset, alongside the M5 motorway they were pushing/pulling an easy 80mph+ and visibly faster than the cars were doing.

  • @DambustaAnimations
    @DambustaAnimations 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    this made me so happy

  • @malcolmtarlton9012
    @malcolmtarlton9012 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I met a farmer in NC that kept one of these around. Reason? Stump pulling.

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ….. For redwoods.

  • @stocksmeadow
    @stocksmeadow 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what torque is all about.

  • @josephwatts790
    @josephwatts790 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hurray for Trevor! That steam tractor reminds me of Trevor from Thomas and friends that's why I said that

  • @leggyy
    @leggyy 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the steam engine was created in 1900, and the drag tractor now, the steam engine has only one piston, the drag tractor has 6 or more pistons.
    So : water is better than oil ;)

  • @Erik_Blomgren
    @Erik_Blomgren 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think we should change the national anthem of UK from "god bless the queen" to "god bless the steam"!

  • @JuliaCV9
    @JuliaCV9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the traction engine uses that drag tractor as a plow XD

  • @trevorfillmore698
    @trevorfillmore698 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A new tiller for an old steam tractor thanks for the show.

  • @jeffsloop4123
    @jeffsloop4123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did anyone notice the angle of that tow bar?? Also, it appears the John Deere has 4 wheel drive but only the rear two wheels were engaged. Not to mention the operator was just spinning the tires as fast as he could...Not a very good test.

    • @Fairlane500skyliner
      @Fairlane500skyliner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering the John Deer would weigh 2-3t and the traction engine could weigh up to 20t, it wouldn't make much difference. The traction engine is also geared for lower speeds and high power, so would still open up a can of whoop-ass on the John Deer.

    • @adjustablehammer3749
      @adjustablehammer3749 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff Sloop it's a tractor pulling tractor they arnt allowed 4wd so they take it of

  • @alphamale1865
    @alphamale1865 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    tractor is green with envy after being owned by a old steam tractor

  • @darkovbarbora
    @darkovbarbora 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ten americký traktor vhodný jen na kypření ornice se mi líbí. Kdyby tak objeli celé pole mohli hned sázet brambory.

    • @CPS2
      @CPS2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sweet gibberish, bro

  • @robertwood9572
    @robertwood9572 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not going to lie, that cat sounds pretty awesome.

  • @AusExplorer
    @AusExplorer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    green 4-bottom plough right there ...

  • @copperkipper1
    @copperkipper1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The steam engine can match the torque output of the gas engine without the engine even turning over...lol.

    • @garydos000
      @garydos000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once they gave it a little bit it dragged them home

  • @jrstow86
    @jrstow86 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a prefect example as to why we need steam. I'll bet the government would ban it...nothing to tax but the purchase of equipment.

  • @thepaintjobber
    @thepaintjobber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Hotrod Jesus that thing must have incredible low-rpm torque

  • @Craneman4100w
    @Craneman4100w 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The drawbar on the traction engine is higher than the tractor. Any pull will lighten the drives on the tractor, no contest here.

    • @kucam12mischablue
      @kucam12mischablue 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Craneman the 1800s tractor is 100 times heavier....

    • @Craneman4100w
      @Craneman4100w 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK, The pulling tractor did not dig in, the pulled tractor did and how it dug in has nothing to do with how hard it CAN pull, it is a result of it being dragged while the tires rotate forward.
      The steamer is not 100 times heavier, it is maybe 3 or so times heavier which makes a huge difference for sure. None of these things discount the fact that the higher drawbar exerts a lifting effect on the lower one and will reduce the lower ones pulling effort (the entire point of my comment).
      Machines of equal weight, height, and power would be at a standoff (equal).
      The fact that one beats the other indicates there are differences between them, one of which I pointed out.

    • @MrDalek2150
      @MrDalek2150 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gee Lass Also it has like the lowest gearing in the world.

    • @hiyadroogs
      @hiyadroogs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrDalek2150 Hardly. If the steam engine could manage 3000 rpm, rather than the 60 rpm here, it would be pulling about 40 mph in bottom gear. Similar to the tractors top gear. Why do you suppose steam locomotives can start a 1000 ton train away from rest, with overdrive gearing much taller than 1:1, from crankpin to wheel rim, then take that train to 100 mph with the same 'gear' - without ever exceeding 300 rpm? Answer, torque. Diesel & petrol engines need gearboxes precisely because they can't produce useful pulling power below 500 rpm. Steam & electric motors really don't need them for pulling from rest. Traction engines only have gears because big cylinders require big boilers, which need a big water supply.

    • @milanjatt4033
      @milanjatt4033 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hiyadroogs

  • @elijahvargas6338
    @elijahvargas6338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steam may be outdated but it’s by no means out classed 😝😂🤣😅🤩🤩

  • @genekinnick2174
    @genekinnick2174 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never seen a roto-tiller quite that big and powerful before!

  • @maciek9613
    @maciek9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not power battle, it's a traction battle.

  • @mattgrooms3298
    @mattgrooms3298 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anybody that hooks to a steam tractor does not know what it can do. The steam tractor has about 2,500 foot pounds of torque and the john deere about 1,300 foot pounds.

  • @MilanKerslager
    @MilanKerslager 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Neříká se tomu "stará škola"? :-)

    •  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      A nedá si říct. Spojka vorvana :-)

  • @Tristan102100
    @Tristan102100 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the guy on the drag tractor:
    *on your mark,get set, GO!*
    " oh shit better floor it and drag this bucket of bolts to tim buck 2!"
    the guy on the traction engine:
    *on your mark, get set, GO!*
    "dadoo dadoo dadoo."
    "whats that loud noise?"
    " hmmm,it seems i am going downhill"
    " OH SHIT THE RACE STARTED 45 SECONDS AGO???"
    "Well, i guess i'd better let out the clutch..."
    "dadoo dadoo dadoo"

  • @PowerToolFun
    @PowerToolFun 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The steam tractor is toying with the drag tractor!! LOL!!

  • @wheely04
    @wheely04 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow what a show !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MrMattmc
    @MrMattmc 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This vid tells me that one should pay attention to Grandpa. Why do I say this? Because I had a young fella challenge me to a drag race with his 'rice grinder' Honda. What I was driving was a 1994 V4P Buick Roadmaster wagon with a power chip. Suffice it to say, newer is not always better.

    • @BKetch
      @BKetch 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      9 times out of 10 it is. Your Wagon wouldnt compete with a brand new civic Si.

    • @MrMattmc
      @MrMattmc 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Herps85 Probably not. Why don't we put that little rice grinder in the back of my Roadmaster and take it for a ride. The motor in that si is about as big as the starter on my Buick.

    • @BKetch
      @BKetch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fred Flinstone I dont know if you old timers actually believe what you are saying or are just making shit up to fuck with people. Your old wagon would be lucky to run a sub 20 second 1/4 mile, pretty much every new car could beat that. Even trucks.

    • @BKetch
      @BKetch 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fred Flinstone You're a fucking idiot.

    • @MrMattmc
      @MrMattmc 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Herps85
      One feels sorry for you because you obviously no nothing about cars. A fiero? Get real stupid. If you are going to talk shit, you should know what you are talking about f**kstick.

  • @1000unicorns
    @1000unicorns 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tractor from the 1800's has pimp rims. State of the art machinery.

  • @greyghostkoga
    @greyghostkoga 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The angle of the hookup is killing the Deere, essentially being lifted up in the rear by the much heavier steamer.

  • @tbmike23
    @tbmike23 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steam engine are around 10 times as powerful as average gas engines. The big ones only make maybe 100-150 hp, but they make it at only about 250rpms instead of 2,500 rpms like a diesel. They also make an insane 2-3,000+ pound ft of torque at maybe 1 or 2 rpms. They could pull out tree stumps.

  • @DavidFarina
    @DavidFarina 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    850 HP Roto-Tiller!

  • @connorjones536
    @connorjones536 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it turned that John deer into the world's largest tiller

  • @brandonm2009
    @brandonm2009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I keep seeing comments suggesting the steam engine won because of weight and traction. This is true, but if traction wasn't an issue, the steam engine would still mop the floor with the other tractor.
    Lets remove the wheels and attach huge gears that run in slots along the ground, so wheel slip is impossible. What would happen then? The steam engine would rip the gear box out of the john deere and pull it into the next county... very slowly. :)
    A steam engine that is 80-120hp or whatever it is, may seem like nothing, but its pushing a couple thousand foot pounds of torque. Modern gas engines just cant compete with that. Its not even a competition really, take it for entertainment value only.

  • @RKidd-ex3rh
    @RKidd-ex3rh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I know there is a ton of reasons how the steam tractor won but in my opinion steam is just better..........I don't care what anyone says Steam is just better.

    • @rmjackaman
      @rmjackaman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      attaboy

    • @MrSigDan
      @MrSigDan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      R. Kidd Steam is awesome but not very practical. You need a large constant supply of water and fire to keep going. Other than that it is kickass.

    • @nickelplatestudios2162
      @nickelplatestudios2162 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      R. Kidd Amen to that!

    • @D8W2P4
      @D8W2P4 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrSigDan
      That or give it a steam condenser and you then only need to add fuel, which in the case of an external combustion engine (that's what a steam engine is) can be anything flammable.

    • @MrSigDan
      @MrSigDan 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point. That would be impressive.

  • @EdwardKennedy1956
    @EdwardKennedy1956 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How 'bout up against a Cat D11?

    • @VictrolaJazz
      @VictrolaJazz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Richard K - it's not about horsepower, it's all about torque. Don't you love all the revving from the modern tractor and the effortless torque of the old one!

  • @Quizzicality
    @Quizzicality 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:34 "Here, we'll give you a head start again" "I'm just spinning!" "Oh sorry, we had the breaks on. Try again"

  • @homaism
    @homaism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Для этого чугунного мамонта дизельный трактор, как у ребёнка детская игрушка, он с ним играется 😁

  • @ssstefannn1
    @ssstefannn1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    someone likes to smell smoke

  • @Mike-nj6tj
    @Mike-nj6tj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Say hi to "New technology" ...

  • @Gabriel-he6ih
    @Gabriel-he6ih 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that video can tell people what is better than modern

  • @19crazydude
    @19crazydude 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    that steam engine guy was like ohh he said go and just drug him along

  • @GeneralG1810
    @GeneralG1810 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    NOTHING beats steam

    • @darthgamer6080
      @darthgamer6080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe electric motors stand a chance.

  • @BryanDenlingerKJVM
    @BryanDenlingerKJVM 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jeremiah 6:16a "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls."
    Older technology whipping the new "high-tech" tractor. Awesome!

    • @gmansplit
      @gmansplit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What do ancient desert fairy tales have to do with a tug-of-war?

    • @jaspalsingh750
      @jaspalsingh750 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      By by

    • @ChaseCarlton
      @ChaseCarlton 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it." - The Russian

  • @mattseymour8637
    @mattseymour8637 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great, just shows the raw power of a steam tractor! Its the weight and torque that wins this one! Good old steam!

  • @hawknives
    @hawknives 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That John Deere plows dirt pretty good Backards!

  • @foglalatazanyad
    @foglalatazanyad 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You mad technology ? trololo

  • @TheBighammerstudios
    @TheBighammerstudios 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    all u steam lovers are throwing partys right now but really that steam tractor weighs thousands of pounds more that's why it won not cuz of torque

    • @AbstractAggregate
      @AbstractAggregate 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It don't matter if you pull by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.

    • @skswig1
      @skswig1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's both. The steam engine makes all of its torque from the first movement of the piston

    • @adjustablehammer3749
      @adjustablehammer3749 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheBighammerstudios you are correct but the people saying that are saying if it was on Tarmac even if they both had traction the steam engine would still win

    • @johnrozs
      @johnrozs หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one said it was a torque duel !😊

  • @christoforospaphitis4090
    @christoforospaphitis4090 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real decisive factor is wheel diameter. The modern tractor could not use it's power because it lost traction and it's smaller wheels span trying to move the sheer weight of the massive older tractor.

    • @MrDalek2150
      @MrDalek2150 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correction Massive Older Traction Engine

    • @CPS2
      @CPS2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dumbass...

  • @Gotthard68
    @Gotthard68 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @crazytrip83 not too sure...I agree with the angle on the drawbar, but adhesion is another factor, therefore weight. And you can develop a lot of power in very low speeds on steam engines as well...^^

  • @AN7HROSwift
    @AN7HROSwift 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    xbox vs steam.

  • @THEROBINKEVIN
    @THEROBINKEVIN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that is stem power

  • @FoxPopvli
    @FoxPopvli 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old is always gold! ;)

  • @tonycaptain71
    @tonycaptain71 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    that steam tracter was like hell no he aint going to beat me,lol

  • @Psyadin2
    @Psyadin2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    win by weight, so stupid, on asphalt that doesnt just give out that john deer tractor would rip that steam powered shit to pieces, quite litterally, it would likely be destroyed by the speeds the john deer would pull it in.

    • @jeremystyle6568
      @jeremystyle6568 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Doubt it, that john dear would just spin the tires on asphalt. The steam tractors tires appear that they would even give much better traction on pavement then offroad vs the john deer's tires

    • @deathgnomes
      @deathgnomes 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And why do you call it "shit"? Because it's old? It'll probably be running long after they replace that diesel, even with being well up-kept. That old steam-powered "shit" as you called it is far less complicated a machine, I'd take it over the other any day.

    • @Fairlane500skyliner
      @Fairlane500skyliner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Magnus Håland Even on the road, the traction engine would still open up a can of "whoop-ass" on the John Deer. :-) They have some serious traction and weight behind them, and would weight about three or four times the weight of the John Deer.

    • @Bananpelikan
      @Bananpelikan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      STOP ARGUING, lets vote for a rematch instead, ON ASPHALT :D:D!?

    • @DennisGr
      @DennisGr 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      that "steam powered piece of shit" has multiple times the weight of the john deere, so it's traction on asphalt would be even better.

  • @tkfuzzkid
    @tkfuzzkid 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this. I've seen these old steam engines in person at the show they used to have, and I assume they still do, at Boonville Indiana.

  • @hiyadroogs
    @hiyadroogs 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Except that the tractor is geared far far lower than the steam engine. The traction engine is pulling a bottom gear taller than the tractors top gear. The traction engine makes possibly 90 bhp @ 120 rpm maximum, but from a dead stand makes approximately 3500 ft/lbs of torque at the crank BEFORE its multiplied by the gears. The tractor pulls harder at speed because that requires HP which determines work rate. But from a dead stand it was always going to be a win for the one with the most torque.

  • @mgman71
    @mgman71 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    its all about weight! one disadvantage of the tractor is the pull strap is actually lifting the back of it rather then being even. But the result would still be the same.

  • @MrReg1967
    @MrReg1967 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best steam vs diesel I've ever seen ! Do you think the tractor driver seriously thought he could win?

  • @Jonsse
    @Jonsse 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Less to do with horsepower and more to do with weight. The Modern tractor has more power, but because of the significantly lower weight can't transfer enough to the ground so the wheels just spin. Also the link between them pulls the modern tractors rear tires up as force is aplied which exacerbates the differences even more. Fun little video, nothing to argue about in it though.

  • @themadmailler
    @themadmailler 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    the world's most inefficient yet awesome way to cultivate fields!

  • @tobiramasenju7669
    @tobiramasenju7669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tractor did a good job digging trenches