Yes, I was yelling at the video "you have 27128 search filter set". Clearly the filter flexibly matches any part that includes the search filter characters. Hence why we also see 27512 DIP28 parts in the search results (i.e. 27512 DIP28 parts also include all the characters: 27128).
Dave does a lot of these videos where he's trying to show off a product/feature-set when he's not familiarized himself with the way the thing works before shooting it. I assume this is to help convey whether or not the use of any given item is intuitive or not. However, in situations like this, Dave should've caught that. Silly mistake. He more than makes up for it with the knowledge he shares elsewhere, however!
Software for my published electronics projects mostly. My EPROM programmer software was very popular back in it's day. Ah, the days of shipping thousands of 3 1/2" disks in an envelope... or 5 1/4" floppies for those who hadn't switched...
I've had this exact programmer for about 4 years now. I don't use it every day. Though, the dozen or so times that I have needed it. It worked a charm.
You can make one with an Arduino/Pi and some Shift Registers. If you were desperate you could make shift registers with D latches. If I remember right Ben Eater made a video it.
@@Wes8761 Yup, I'm making one for me but using MCP23S17 for both I/O unlike Just Outputting from Shift Registers. A Python Program in PC to Send Instructions on USART to Attiny841. Only Issue is only supports 5V, idk how to get 3.3v-12V in Bi-directional mode :(
I know, I've done a whole video on using the 34063. But they aren't the most efficient things, probably the most inefficient converter available. But they are cheap. You don't see them that often in gear like this.
for the 12 dollars more get the TL866a the ICSP will come in handy one day sooner or later. Or ofcourse take on the challenge and mod the TL866CS to the A.
I just received the AutoElectric TL866II Plus from a 100% positive feedback eBay dealer w/13 adapters IC Clip 1.8V nand flash 24 93 25 mcu Bios EPROM and it's everything David showed here and more I'm sure.
Waiting for approval to EEVBlog Community Forum, just found an ugly omission in the software. There is no software mechanism to uninstall the XGpro software. It also does not show up as an installed program under Windows 7 Programs and Features, unless it is only unpacked and placed in a folder and not marked in the Windows Registry as done.
I absolutely LOVE your videos. that being said can you please normalize and compress the sound in your videos, the difference in perceived volume between everything else on youtube is so extreme that I have to turn my volume knob up a full quarter turn every time I watch one of your videos, which sets me up for ear damage on the next videos I watch. that being said, I look forward to literally every video you post because the information contained in them is absolutely amazing
When I put the MiniPro on a powered USB hub, the "overcurrent protection" errors went completely away. I suppose the 5v rail for my onboard USB ports was exhausted.
Just got one of these to read and replace the Dallas DS1225Y NVRAM on my 'scope. i doubt I would ever have got round to programming a chip if I didn't have the threat of lost cal data hanging over me. Cheers for the crash course/review, Davester!
Thanks Dave. I know this video is 5 years old, but I just bought one of these and I am planning to use it to flash a new EEPROM for my Keithley 2000 DMM. The discussion (my my help me thread) is on the forum under "Repair". Thanks a million brotha!
Thanks, this was great. I used this as a tutorial, I bought the unit, and played around with a V29C51002T DIP32 package (An Award BIOS for a PII from 1998). Backed it up, erased, reprogrammed. All good! :)
I just received mine, downloaded the latest 6.60 software and it works like a charm. All the eeproms I ordered cheap from Ali Express had data in them (some dubious). I had a blast going through all of them and seeing what was still on them
Own this one for half a year. The only chip it was unable to program is soviet military EEPROM - it required up to 30V programming voltage. Other than that it's absolutely flawless.
I bought the A version of that device (with the ICSP port and all adapter boards) for a bit under AU$90.00 not long before I found this video, and I like the device. There was a small problem in that it wasn't packed with enough protection and some of the pins on the adaptor boards had been bent during transit. It was only a small problem because I was able to straighten the pins with needle-nose pliers. The ICSP section works as advertised, although there's not enough information on which is pin 1. For the record, the ICSP pin closest to the front (where the chip logo is shown) is pin 1. From left to right, starting with pin 1, the pins are VPP, VCC, GND, PGD, PGC and NC (Not Connected), just in case anyone else needs this information. The TL866A doesn't seem to test the old 2114 RAM chip which I used in a few of my experiments, but it seems to test and program almost everything else. I'm guessing that it would even check the 2114 if someone could write the routine for it. Other than that, it seems to be able to program almost anything programmable and checks most common logic and memory circuits. The MiniPro programmer control program can load and save standard HEX file format, so in a pinch you can write your program in something like MPLAB and compile it, then load the HEX output file into MiniPro and program your target that way (if you don't have a programmer which is compatible with MPLAB).
Amen. It's not just the ICSP header. The CS firmware is crippled by design, it is encrypted, and the bootloader on the device (the scratched up IC) checks for the firmware type. See this blog if in doubt, google "Upgrading the tl866cs, or: misadventures with PICs"
I used to work at a small electronics place that used an older one of these and an ancient laptop to program the EEPROM chips used in the products we made. I even tried my hand at it but I wasn't any good. Nowadays it's all firmware on flash memory.
Dave, you might want to take a look on 4th generation of programmer from that manufacturer. You get support for 27000 ICs and 56 pins with full drive. Internals look really nice for a teardown ;)
It's a bit of a late reply, but yes, you can unbrick AVRs with this programmer. Granted, I've only tested this with an ATtiny2313 and an ATmega328P, but you'll have to disable the Check Device ID function in order to force the programmer to apply the default fuse bits.
You got all those adapters for less than $10? Holy crap, my local electronics store wanted like $36 for a single PLCC to 40 pin DIP adapter! Needless to say I didn't buy it... They don't have the best prices. :-/
You mentioned having your own software business, what type of software did you write? I would be interested in hearing more about your background and education as an engineer and software developer.
I don't suppose you have the update installer do you? I just bought this thing and the support website is no longer online! Great. With Regard to the ICSP, if you go into your programs folder / MiniPro folder / Img folder there are some ICSP config pictures and pinouts. Just in case you didn't know...
1. You don't need to install the software. You can open the setup exe with 7zip and simply extract it to a folder. 2. The CPU is a USB PIC16. 3. The programmer app checks the firmware and disables the ICSP feature if you've got the wrong version, so you can't just solder in the connector. But you can hack the app to make it work. 4. The CPU firmware file is encrypted so you can't simply disassemble it. 5. The programmer works quite well, and the software is WAYYYY better than the G540.
I saw some logic family ICs listed on one ebay marketers advertisement. Does this also do logic chip tests? I don't expect it would be that hard for them to add that functionality, so if they list logic gates like 74HC(LS)00 and 4001 types that must be why. I notice they don't list the higher current more obsolete TTL logic. High current levels would be incompatible with their ARM chip I imagine.
Just noticed in that blog a reseller says the CD software is wrong and to download the updated (same version) software. Nice quality control there China, well done! He posts a link to get the update from a different site to the Autoelectric because as I said before that site is getting a major update or it'a a goner! I would post the links but sadly PooTube won't let me.
Even the web site has not one bit of English on there. You would think that with a market the size of the US, they could at least make an English version of the web site. Even badly-translated English is better than no English at all.
I work in Shenzhen, China as hardware director from EU company - YES, their engineers often call it wrong and say FIREWARE instead of FIRMWARE. Cheers!
If you look around on eBay you will find them as a total package with a load of adapters including the usually pricey tsop adapters. Look for eBay seller sunwenjun.
Now THIS is what I need to temporarily repair 6 "suicided" CAPCOM CPS-I boards I own. Should have bought it 3 years ago! I say "temporary" because I want to do a correct repair with new battery on the boards. But at least with the unencrypted ROMs, I can use them until I can make that happen.
A few years back I bought the TL866A model. It worked when I tested it at the time then it sat in the box for a couple of years until I had a project that I needed it for. Now it gives me an ERROR on GND Pin25 self test.
How does this compare to the willem programmer? Personally I think the chip selection menu of the willem programmer is lacking and the adapters are expensive.
I think you didn't see all the chips at first because you had some text in the search field on the device selection screen. I bet if you blanked it out all chips would have shown up without reinstalling the device library. It's a trap!
chm is "Compiled HTML". That would be the user manual that you never need... :) I think there's a free "Microsoft HTML Help" viewer for this, and I think Internet Explorer used to be able to open it, I also just tested in Edge and it worked. I don't know either why they didn't just use PDF!
Whats the best bang for the buck programmer on Ebay now? I'm looking at the TL866II PLUS or the RT809H. The RT states "The only universal programer that detect the numbers of all chips" ? I guess thats what I like. I do not want to buy one again. Any thoughts?
Maybe it's a factory reject of some name-brand chip that has been re-purposed. Buggy chips often work just fine at lower than intended speeds. Or you can completely ignore the parts of the chip/instruction set that don't work right. Just one possibility.
Totally agree, as an electronics tech of a few decades the Chinese will not release any service data to repair their products. They don't want them repaired regardless of a purchase cost factor of up to several thousand dollars, they would rather you buy a newly manufactured item with the same planned failure rate. The grinding off of chip types makes sure you can't repair the item via reverse engineering. The western world sealed their fate when we allowed these people to undercut western manufacturing. I dread to think what the world will be like in 2050 unless the Chinese are reeled in somehow, a nuclear exchange would seem to be a dreadful answer.
I reviewed this on my channel last year. I could read the chip ID number despite it being scratched off. I will post the type later. It has proved to be very good indeed. What happened to your eevblog.com site a week or two ago. My members reported it had been hacked. Certainly looked that way when I visited to check. Random text on the page and then it installed a Trojan on my PC. All very odd. Regards Trevor
I am a bit slow....how does one go about learning/understanding what each chip is capable of, what the correct codes may be (within the limits of the chip), etc? Books, sites, videos?? thanks, great video btw.
i smell a pic32. pic32mx440f128h? That ICD looks like the PIC icd and I remember the power pins being centered on the sides. I could be wrong, i am arm-chairing this pretty hard. Is the xtal 8mhz? maybe a pic kit 3 can auto-detect the chip?
Dave, with the adapters can this be used to reflash motherboard BIOS chips? I have bricked some motherboards in my time and this might be just the thing...
Nice to see you praising a piece of Chinese electronics. It's all too rare to find something quality from over there. Anyway, good review, and very informative for someone just learning about electronics.
Hey, I was considering picking up one of these for some EEPROM writing. You think it'll do the job? I'm looking to make some re writable Sega cartridges.
Well I remember Ericsson used those EPROM (I don't know the exact modell) in their Mini link stations around the world, at least in the early 2000. Someone asked why doesn't change those "relics" to something more modern? The simple answer was. "THEY WORK"
I bought a G840 Programer on ebay from china. I reprogram early 90's radios for use on amateur radio and they work great. My first programer back in the late 90's cost a lot more to do a lot less. OK there is a lot of crap from china but you get what you pay for...
I do wonder why you installed software from the CD in the first place ;) But I was about to buy a programmer and this should fit fine :) Thanks for the review.
25:51
You had filter on "27128" active for whole time, in left top corner.
So what ?
It limited the results he was able to see.
Yes, I was yelling at the video "you have 27128 search filter set". Clearly the filter flexibly matches any part that includes the search filter characters. Hence why we also see 27512 DIP28 parts in the search results (i.e. 27512 DIP28 parts also include all the characters: 27128).
Dave does a lot of these videos where he's trying to show off a product/feature-set when he's not familiarized himself with the way the thing works before shooting it. I assume this is to help convey whether or not the use of any given item is intuitive or not. However, in situations like this, Dave should've caught that. Silly mistake. He more than makes up for it with the knowledge he shares elsewhere, however!
doh!
Magic spit worked on my MiniPro and I was able to identify microcontroller as PIC18F87J50.
Software for my published electronics projects mostly. My EPROM programmer software was very popular back in it's day. Ah, the days of shipping thousands of 3 1/2" disks in an envelope... or 5 1/4" floppies for those who hadn't switched...
why is the ARM processor scratched off @7:00 ?
Damn, yes, that seems to be it. It does limit the devices when text is in the field!
I've had this exact programmer for about 4 years now. I don't use it every day. Though, the dozen or so times that I have needed it. It worked a charm.
"Whether or not you would trust a $50 programmer"
Meanwhile I'm sitting here with a $2 programmer that I think is too expensive
where do you get such a cheap programmer?
@@grizzly11356 maybe a USBasp programmer? not sure but I use that for ATtinys
What programmer do you have and is it any good?
You can make one with an Arduino/Pi and some Shift Registers. If you were desperate you could make shift registers with D latches. If I remember right Ben Eater made a video it.
@@Wes8761 Yup, I'm making one for me but using MCP23S17 for both I/O unlike Just Outputting from Shift Registers. A Python Program in PC to Send Instructions on USART to Attiny841. Only Issue is only supports 5V, idk how to get 3.3v-12V in Bi-directional mode :(
I know, I've done a whole video on using the 34063. But they aren't the most efficient things, probably the most inefficient converter available. But they are cheap. You don't see them that often in gear like this.
Thanks for reviewing, was thinking of ordering one of these and just ordered one after seeing this video. Seems like a good hobbyist programmer.
for the 12 dollars more get the TL866a the ICSP will come in handy one day sooner or later. Or ofcourse take on the challenge and mod the TL866CS to the A.
Excellent Review,
Normally on the fly reviews dont work so good, Your wit and confidence pulls it off.
Thanks
I just received the AutoElectric TL866II Plus from a 100% positive feedback eBay dealer w/13 adapters IC Clip 1.8V nand flash 24 93 25 mcu Bios EPROM and it's everything David showed here and more I'm sure.
Waiting for approval to EEVBlog Community Forum, just found an ugly omission in the software. There is no software mechanism to uninstall the XGpro software. It also does not show up as an installed program under Windows 7 Programs and Features, unless it is only unpacked and placed in a folder and not marked in the Windows Registry as done.
I absolutely LOVE your videos. that being said can you please normalize and compress the sound in your videos, the difference in perceived volume between everything else on youtube is so extreme that I have to turn my volume knob up a full quarter turn every time I watch one of your videos, which sets me up for ear damage on the next videos I watch. that being said, I look forward to literally every video you post because the information contained in them is absolutely amazing
You were programming back in the day before I was even born, yet I think you're f**king epic, what I would do to learn from a master like you.
I watched this review and have now ordered one of these programmer's.
Thanks Dave your videos are very helpful
keep up the good work
I did not buy this for PIC or AVR programming, I bought it for EPROM programming.
When I put the MiniPro on a powered USB hub, the "overcurrent protection" errors went completely away.
I suppose the 5v rail for my onboard USB ports was exhausted.
Just got one of these to read and replace the Dallas DS1225Y NVRAM on my 'scope. i doubt I would ever have got round to programming a chip if I didn't have the threat of lost cal data hanging over me. Cheers for the crash course/review, Davester!
The problem was not the software... you had 128 entered in the search box...
Thanks Dave. I know this video is 5 years old, but I just bought one of these and I am planning to use it to flash a new EEPROM for my Keithley 2000 DMM. The discussion (my my help me thread) is on the forum under "Repair". Thanks a million brotha!
Took a while to figure out what you were hinting at, but I just got it. lol
Thanks, this was great. I used this as a tutorial, I bought the unit, and played around with a V29C51002T DIP32 package (An Award BIOS for a PII from 1998). Backed it up, erased, reprogrammed. All good! :)
I will be looking for that video a lot of times!
I just received mine, downloaded the latest 6.60 software and it works like a charm. All the eeproms I ordered cheap from Ali Express had data in them (some dubious). I had a blast going through all of them and seeing what was still on them
You had a software company? Any examples of what you used to do? Maybe old copies of programs you don't support we can try out?
Own this one for half a year. The only chip it was unable to program is soviet military EEPROM - it required up to 30V programming voltage. Other than that it's absolutely flawless.
I bought the A version of that device (with the ICSP port and all adapter boards) for a bit under AU$90.00 not long before I found this video, and I like the device. There was a small problem in that it wasn't packed with enough protection and some of the pins on the adaptor boards had been bent during transit. It was only a small problem because I was able to straighten the pins with needle-nose pliers.
The ICSP section works as advertised, although there's not enough information on which is pin 1. For the record, the ICSP pin closest to the front (where the chip logo is shown) is pin 1.
From left to right, starting with pin 1, the pins are VPP, VCC, GND, PGD, PGC and NC (Not Connected), just in case anyone else needs this information.
The TL866A doesn't seem to test the old 2114 RAM chip which I used in a few of my experiments, but it seems to test and program almost everything else. I'm guessing that it would even check the 2114 if someone could write the routine for it.
Other than that, it seems to be able to program almost anything programmable and checks most common logic and memory circuits.
The MiniPro programmer control program can load and save standard HEX file format, so in a pinch you can write your program in something like MPLAB and compile it, then load the HEX output file into MiniPro and program your target that way (if you don't have a programmer which is compatible with MPLAB).
Thank you for this video. I appreciate that you have enthusiasm for your subject matter also!
Mr. Dave thanks for the wonderful video. I bought one MiniPro TL866A . It is an excellent device for hobby enthusiasts
Amen. It's not just the ICSP header. The CS firmware is crippled by design, it is encrypted, and the bootloader on the device (the scratched up IC) checks for the firmware type. See this blog if in doubt, google "Upgrading the tl866cs, or: misadventures with PICs"
I used to work at a small electronics place that used an older one of these and an ancient laptop to program the EEPROM chips used in the products we made. I even tried my hand at it but I wasn't any good. Nowadays it's all firmware on flash memory.
The spit moment had my OCD going wild! But I soon got over it when I saw those lovely EPROMs!
EEVblog Electronics Community Forum. Is that you're website? It has your video. Anyway that's where all the update info is.
Dave, you might want to take a look on 4th generation of programmer from that manufacturer. You get support for 27000 ICs and 56 pins with full drive. Internals look really nice for a teardown ;)
The TL866ii + ?
I thought he was joking about the spit...
It's a bit of a late reply, but yes, you can unbrick AVRs with this programmer. Granted, I've only tested this with an ATtiny2313 and an ATmega328P, but you'll have to disable the Check Device ID function in order to force the programmer to apply the default fuse bits.
You got all those adapters for less than $10? Holy crap, my local electronics store wanted like $36 for a single PLCC to 40 pin DIP adapter! Needless to say I didn't buy it... They don't have the best prices. :-/
You mentioned having your own software business, what type of software did you write? I would be interested in hearing more about your background and education as an engineer and software developer.
i've been tempted to buy one of these. will be great to see if they are worth it
Besides the programming features...you love to flip that little green antenna(?)!
Thank you for explanation.
I used one of these to upgrade a Roland CM-64 MIDI module. Worked!
Great new toy Dave!
I have to go grab one now...
I don't suppose you have the update installer do you? I just bought this thing and the support website is no longer online! Great. With Regard to the ICSP, if you go into your programs folder / MiniPro folder / Img folder there are some ICSP config pictures and pinouts. Just in case you didn't know...
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1. You don't need to install the software. You can open the setup exe with 7zip and simply extract it to a folder.
2. The CPU is a USB PIC16.
3. The programmer app checks the firmware and disables the ICSP feature if you've got the wrong version, so you can't just solder in the connector. But you can hack the app to make it work.
4. The CPU firmware file is encrypted so you can't simply disassemble it.
5. The programmer works quite well, and the software is WAYYYY better than the G540.
I saw some logic family ICs listed on one ebay marketers advertisement.
Does this also do logic chip tests? I don't expect it would be that hard for them to add that functionality, so if they list logic gates like 74HC(LS)00 and 4001 types that must be why. I notice they don't list the higher current more obsolete TTL logic. High current levels would be incompatible with their ARM chip I imagine.
Very entertaining for such a geeky gadget. Thank you!
great review dave..
You had some stuff typed into the search field, that might have affected your list of stuff you could select...
I enjoy watching your videos and wanted to know is you did a product review on the XP8710 programmer. How is it comparable to TL866II?
The main chip is a 'Microchip PIC18F87J10' if it helps.
I have one of these and it was super easy to use. Jumped back into microcontroller programming 3 years ago and burned an attiny2313 with one of these.
Just noticed in that blog a reseller says the CD software is wrong and to download the updated (same version) software. Nice quality control there China, well done! He posts a link to get the update from a different site to the Autoelectric because as I said before that site is getting a major update or it'a a goner! I would post the links but sadly PooTube won't let me.
They spent their whole budget on the hardware and didn't have any money left for grammar.
Even the web site has not one bit of English on there. You would think that with a market the size of the US, they could at least make an English version of the web site. Even badly-translated English is better than no English at all.
Kevin Harrelson google chrome, translates it all for you.
Awesome review.
I work in Shenzhen, China as hardware director from EU company - YES, their engineers often call it wrong and say FIREWARE instead of FIRMWARE. Cheers!
very cool. I like the compact design.
12:39 - aww, dave loves his fans
Just a update, the software has been updated and the version is now 6.5 all 256K versions are now in there.
Yes, .bin and intel .hex files. All programmer software has this ability, so it's a given really.
This thing can do HVPP and HVSP on AVRs so it is really useful when rescuing chips with bad fuses.
nice review. i received mine today, dumped some 2764 roms, and also found that it can be used to test 74XX logic chips!
How..? Can we check 74XX logic IC's..?
Select logic, then select 74LS08 etc
+James Higgs Thanks
I just got one of these its pretty handy, plus I can test logic chips etc on there
There's now the TL866ii +
Hey, this is the exact same one I use for programming vehicle ECU EPROMS! Nice :)
If you look around on eBay you will find them as a total package with a load of adapters including the usually pricey tsop adapters. Look for eBay seller sunwenjun.
I got the update on the update website mine is up to V6.10 and has 256 and 27C in the options menu now.
Now THIS is what I need to temporarily repair 6 "suicided" CAPCOM CPS-I boards I own. Should have bought it 3 years ago! I say "temporary" because I want to do a correct repair with new battery on the boards. But at least with the unencrypted ROMs, I can use them until I can make that happen.
A few years back I bought the TL866A model. It worked when I tested it at the time then it sat in the box for a couple of years until I had a project that I needed it for. Now it gives me an ERROR on GND Pin25 self test.
How does this compare to the willem programmer?
Personally I think the chip selection menu of the willem programmer is lacking and the adapters are expensive.
I think you didn't see all the chips at first because you had some text in the search field on the device selection screen. I bet if you blanked it out all chips would have shown up without reinstalling the device library. It's a trap!
Thanks for the review! I might pick one up myself. Could you verify that the unpopulated ICSP connection actually functions?
Yes, eevblogDOTcom, eevblogDOTorg, and theamphourDOTcom all got hacked.
chm is "Compiled HTML". That would be the user manual that you never need... :) I think there's a free "Microsoft HTML Help" viewer for this, and I think Internet Explorer used to be able to open it, I also just tested in Edge and it worked. I don't know either why they didn't just use PDF!
Backwards Compatibility I Suppose. The box says it Supports Old OS like Win2000. I guess these OS didn't support PDFs or PDF viewer
Whats the best bang for the buck programmer on Ebay now? I'm looking at the TL866II PLUS or the RT809H. The RT states "The only universal programer that detect the numbers of all chips" ? I guess thats what I like. I do not want to buy one again. Any thoughts?
Now i must convince myself that it was a good idea to buy a Batronix programmer last week. But I think I will buy this one too...
Maybe it's a factory reject of some name-brand chip that has been re-purposed. Buggy chips often work just fine at lower than intended speeds. Or you can completely ignore the parts of the chip/instruction set that don't work right. Just one possibility.
Very informative thanks
It's ironic that the same people who do the most copying and counterfeiting try so hard to make sure their products don't get copied.
Totally agree, as an electronics tech of a few decades the Chinese will not release any service data to repair their products. They don't want them repaired regardless of a purchase cost factor of up to several thousand dollars, they would rather you buy a newly manufactured item with the same planned failure rate. The grinding off of chip types makes sure you can't repair the item via reverse engineering. The western world sealed their fate when we allowed these people to undercut western manufacturing. I dread to think what the world will be like in 2050 unless the Chinese are reeled in somehow, a nuclear exchange would seem to be a dreadful answer.
@@Robbie1949 Only your country has nuclear weapons?
I reviewed this on my channel last year.
I could read the chip ID number despite it being scratched off. I will post the type later.
It has proved to be very good indeed.
What happened to your eevblog.com site a week or two ago. My members reported it had been hacked. Certainly looked that way when I visited to check. Random text on the page and then it installed a Trojan on my PC. All very odd.
Regards
Trevor
They have used PIC18F87J50. jtag-pins = MCLR/3.3V/GND/PGD/PGC/GND .
I like the two-tone ring. Is it a wedding band?
TheEPROM9 would love it!
I am a bit slow....how does one go about learning/understanding what each chip is capable of, what the correct codes may be (within the limits of the chip), etc? Books, sites, videos?? thanks, great video btw.
i smell a pic32. pic32mx440f128h? That ICD looks like the PIC icd and I remember the power pins being centered on the sides. I could be wrong, i am arm-chairing this pretty hard.
Is the xtal 8mhz? maybe a pic kit 3 can auto-detect the chip?
Awesome kit!
Just looked at my video. Apparently the chip on mine is a PIC18F87J50.
Last time I heard, the new TL866ii plus does not support 21 Volts anymore :(.
the CPU/MCU is PIC18F87J50
the scraped chip is a microchip PIC18F87J50. at least it in in my A version.
Awesome programble device friendly use
Dave, with the adapters can this be used to reflash motherboard BIOS chips? I have bricked some motherboards in my time and this might be just the thing...
Nice to see you praising a piece of Chinese electronics. It's all too rare to find something quality from over there.
Anyway, good review, and very informative for someone just learning about electronics.
Where can I get this device now, and what's the price range?
your voice would do very good as a standup comic & or cartoon voice over , very helpful vid
Could you make a video for newbies on all the functions. I haven't used such a device ever. What does fuses etc. mean?
I like when he says "Little quick video" haha ;D
Hey, I was considering picking up one of these for some EEPROM writing. You think it'll do the job? I'm looking to make some re writable Sega cartridges.
Well I remember Ericsson used those EPROM (I don't know the exact modell) in their Mini link stations around the world, at least in the early 2000.
Someone asked why doesn't change those "relics" to something more modern?
The simple answer was. "THEY WORK"
I bought a G840 Programer on ebay from china. I reprogram early 90's radios for use on amateur radio and they work great. My first programer back in the late 90's cost a lot more to do a lot less. OK there is a lot of crap from china but you get what you pay for...
I do wonder why you installed software from the CD in the first place ;)
But I was about to buy a programmer and this should fit fine :)
Thanks for the review.
I tried to download the latest version of the software but it's no longer available