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  • Fundamentals Friday
    What is a Schmitt trigger and how does it work?
    What is hysteresis?
    And how do they fix two common problems in electronics, namely slow slew rate signals on CMOS digital chip inputs causing oscillation, and noise on comparator inputs.
    The issues are demonstrated first on the breadboard, then the whiteboard explanation, and then the hysteresis fix is added and demonstrated.
    And how are Schmitt Triggers physically implemented in CMOS logic?
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  • @heman248
    @heman248 7 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Your videos make me learn. My college only tests me. I should be paying you instead. Thank you for your videos I have learned a lot.

    • @hannescamitz8575
      @hannescamitz8575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've asked myself, why isn't Dave a teacher instead? Well of coarse it's because of insterests and so.

    • @yssing
      @yssing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well he is sort of a teacher, he teaches using youtube :)

    • @tomaszwota1465
      @tomaszwota1465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think you underestimate the difficulty and hardships of running a school.

    • @PankajKumar-zr3tv
      @PankajKumar-zr3tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But did you pay him?

    • @TheMechatronicEngineer
      @TheMechatronicEngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PankajKumar-zr3tv no

  • @MrSaydo17
    @MrSaydo17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    So I had this person from the IEEE laugh at my negative feedback shirt. Saying, "I only give positive feed back but am prone to oscillation."

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Nice!

    • @ccc5226
      @ccc5226 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do a program with a super high-speed counters cheap and available ns and ps :)

  • @andyaitch5322
    @andyaitch5322 7 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Excellent video Dave. You went through it the old-school way, showing the proper analogue hysteresis solution rather than what 99% of people would do, just add a Schmitt Trigger module/circuit. I also learned something from your explanation of the digital version
    Of course, even those who understand how it works will still pick the IC that has the Schmitt Trigger built in because, let's face it, it's easier.
    Kudos to you mate, you obviously have a deep understanding of electronics but also have the knack of making it entertaining and easy to follow.

    • @andreasdill4329
      @andreasdill4329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL, OpAmp isn´t anywhere near old school. The original design used tubes.

    • @Bradman175
      @Bradman175 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Without watching this video, I would have just stupidly added a Schmitt trigger IC.

  • @DJSkunkieButt
    @DJSkunkieButt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    ..."A fraction of a bee's dick."
    Your Aussie analogies never cease to make me audibly say "dafuq?"

  • @mand6029
    @mand6029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks Dave , for making electronic concepts easier and more interesting than any professor on the planet Earth, catch you next time , bye bye

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden123698745 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Dang, my DaveCAD license expired, my pen ran out of ink.

  • @meepk633
    @meepk633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know zero about electronics, but I understood this after watching. You're a good teacher.

  • @daveb5041
    @daveb5041 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Trap for young players, lets go to the data sheet!" This seems a common theme, plus I like the way he says it.

    • @marshaul
      @marshaul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Datasheets are the lifeblood of an electronics engineer.

  • @guatagel2454
    @guatagel2454 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you! If only I could travel in time 24 years ago and show this video to my past self... I've spent endless hours trying to debug my circuits. But I can show this video to my students. Thank you very much! (excuse my english)

  • @matooo95
    @matooo95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Wish I had known this a month ago, when I was designing simple comparator circuit. Now it's being manufactured and it has that oscillation problem.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  7 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Time for a bodge!

    • @CaptainDangeax
      @CaptainDangeax 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for this video Dave. although I learned electronics for 2 years, I completely missed the slow raise time issue. I've heard of the schmitt trigger of course, but I didn't know it was so important.

    • @kamalmanzukie
      @kamalmanzukie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      uh oh

  • @paulwang5650
    @paulwang5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much Dave, I love coming here for these delightful crash courses on engineering.

  • @recomoto
    @recomoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching your lectures is a PLEASURE my man! Beauty!

  • @Antoniobeta
    @Antoniobeta 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love Fundamentals Friday! It would be cool if you make videos on that category more ofthen.

  • @kaizen9451
    @kaizen9451 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloody brilliant Dave. It is so much easier learning a component etc when you can put it into context.

  • @FappyGnome
    @FappyGnome 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Dave, always good to see some educational EEVblog content in my subbox.

  • @malergreven
    @malergreven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the block, I love when you do these teaching block, it teach me a lot.

  • @hsxenon
    @hsxenon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more fundemantals Friday! They already helped me studying for my classes a lot.

  • @pravardhanus
    @pravardhanus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Now i really understood about schmitt trigger. Hats off to Mr. Dave.

  • @VolksTrieb
    @VolksTrieb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    best educational videos ever.

    • @firefly618
      @firefly618 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lord_Vader Seriously, these are the best.

    • @JohnnyYenn
      @JohnnyYenn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lord_Vader Got me through circuit analysis too!

  • @Shaybay922
    @Shaybay922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I watch one of Dave's videos, I want to resubscribe all over again!! They're that good! Thanks Dave - forever a fan! :)

  • @srijal
    @srijal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Our 74161s at lab would sometimes go crazy with the old clanky clock generator we had, and we would blame the ICs. I think I know the actual reason now! Thanks Dave!

  • @Antiath
    @Antiath 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Precisly when I need to take care of input noise on a comparator, Dave gives me a solution. Great timing, thank you very much !

  • @jaideep1337
    @jaideep1337 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish Dave could replace the profs at my university.
    So much fun to watch your videos Dave.
    Thank You

  • @PyroShim
    @PyroShim 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. It is a really important issue that I never thought of enough.

  • @ham4ham71
    @ham4ham71 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This causes so many problems in software when the hardware designer misses it. EXCELLENT VIDEO! Also the software designer should account for this and best when both do. But this is very frequently missed!

  • @jonathanwatmough
    @jonathanwatmough 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff. I am learning so much watching these videos.
    Thanks Dave!

  • @pradipkhare
    @pradipkhare 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dev and it has been very useful to understand insight about it, though I have been using Schmitt trigger more for debounce signals. Thumbs up and eager to see next session.

  • @cexploreful
    @cexploreful 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was sooo much impressive than i ever wonder! The last part was absolutely genius!! Thank you so much!

  • @DominiHarling
    @DominiHarling ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I already knew about Schmitt triggers, but I watched and I learned something new again. Thanks Dave!

  • @robertbeech888
    @robertbeech888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doing Research for my 3rd yeah project (50hz phase detector) and this was awesome. Really happy I found your channel 👌

  • @jjeeva8870
    @jjeeva8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much Dave. Your videos are really helpful to understand the fundamentals of electronics. I wish I had a teacher like you in college. Whenever I am stuck at some point I will search the concepts in your playlist first. Your video tutorial helps me a lot.

  • @memoryh0le
    @memoryh0le 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been trying to design an overload cutout digital circuit based on a comparator measureing voltage across a shunt resistor. It was oscillating. Which I discovered after making an SMT board. Much puzzlement later I came across this video. It was literally a case of adding a single +ve feedback resistor and the problem just immediately went away. You saved me so much hassle!

  • @dimasarifiyan3758
    @dimasarifiyan3758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, after going to all other channels, that explains Schmitt Trigger, this is the best and the clearest one! thanks, man!

  • @mbaker335
    @mbaker335 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more videos like these. You are quite skilled at these educational videos. I much prefer it to a tear down of a 40 year old bit of kit.

  • @ryanedison5709
    @ryanedison5709 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir have be invaluable in my understanding of electronics. I have not found another TH-camr who has been more valuable to my understanding of electronics. You've been the reason I've been able to stay upbeat while dealing with problems that plague the "Young Players" as you say. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

  • @briandecker8403
    @briandecker8403 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dave I am second year Electronic Systems Engineering student and your videos have been - to put it mildly - invaluable! Thanks for the time and effort you put into sharing your knowledge and experience - B. Decker, Cincinnati Ohio

  • @Spigot37Rigor
    @Spigot37Rigor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! I've been considering making something like this to help my customers (I develop new logic ICs for a very large semiconductor company) but just haven't found the time to do it. So glad that you beat me to it - yours will likely help far more people than mine would!

  • @lasersbee
    @lasersbee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was waiting for another Tutorial. Love this stuff... Thanks Dave ;)

  • @tonybell1597
    @tonybell1597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Superb Dave, Wish you had been a teacher at my technical college doing electronics..... Love the fundamental Friday's. Maybe you can work this stuff into some small projects that pull all these principles together? Keep up the fine work!

  • @TechBench
    @TechBench 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video - theory and lots of practical examples. The best way to learn!

  • @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
    @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my second year at university, ages ago, I had a similar problem with a very slow counter. It worked at home but, as soon as I was showing it to the teacher it started to play these tricks on me. The thing is, the teacher didn't know why either and gave top marks anyway. Wish I had know about Mr Schmitt.

  • @martingannon132
    @martingannon132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent discription Dave, thanks a lot!

  • @l1t7l3ph0o7
    @l1t7l3ph0o7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your explanation of the schmitt trigger, I use them a lot in my arduino projects. If only this video existed when I was learning about them.

  • @r.logiacco
    @r.logiacco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally I got what Hysteresis is and how to use a schmitt trigger: thanks a million Dave! 👍👍👍

  • @321crash
    @321crash 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the fundamentals friday! Thank ya Dave!

  • @stichter51
    @stichter51 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Dave. I was familiar with physical hysteresis, as in old electro-mechanical thermostats. Didn't know the concept was used in electronics too.

  • @inayathussain9236
    @inayathussain9236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    where i have been from so many years... your videos are very informative. thanks for your great efforts

  • @ted356
    @ted356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work, Dave!

  • @Dragonblaster1
    @Dragonblaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw your op amp at the top left, I wondered, "if you're using an op amp to create a Schmitt trigger, where are the hysteresis resistors?" But of course, you took it slow and simple, as a good teacher should. An excellent tutorial.

  • @Poketronics
    @Poketronics 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an amazing video, thanks for the refresher!

  • @Aschefr
    @Aschefr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the quality of your explanation ! I love those video, i'm a electronic newbie, and it is very helpful !

  • @DrewFolta
    @DrewFolta 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I was quite young I had this explained to me, describing why a house thermostat has two trigger levels, so that the furnace doesn't keep turning on and off, which stresses it. Recently I was talking with a friend who owns some property with a well and storage tank, and same thing so the well pump doesn't cycle too much. So much hysteresis!

    • @dentakuweb
      @dentakuweb 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. We've had a drought here for a few months and I've been messing with the water pump and tank lately so I checked if the system had hysteresis and it surely does. It stops pumping at 60psi and starts at 40psi.
      Synthesizer circuit builders love schmitt trigger inverters like the 40106 or 74C14 because they have six inverters in one IC and can be made to oscillate with just a resistor and a capacitor.

  • @alibargh
    @alibargh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much. Your teaching videos are perfect. Please make more of these.

  • @MeiklesAndDimes
    @MeiklesAndDimes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked how you started the video with the breadboard and demo.

  • @ryanwelsh8880
    @ryanwelsh8880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Dave very clear and easy to follow!

  • @ao41tr
    @ao41tr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Otto Schmitt, thanks Dave. It is very nice and helpful tutorial.

  • @Brainstorm4300
    @Brainstorm4300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I came across schmitt trigger when I was thinking of a hardware solution for button de-bouncing. I didn't know about STs so I made a 555 circuit to provide the hysteresis. Later I found out about ST and life was easier.

    • @MD-vs9ff
      @MD-vs9ff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brainstorm4300
      Check your micro's data sheet. AVRs have an internal Schmitt trigger on their input circuit, the micro you're using might also. an external Schmitt circuit may be unnecessary.

    • @Brainstorm4300
      @Brainstorm4300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Dowd I know. It was for a circuit completely made of 74 and 4000 series ics otherwise I'd have just used my software debounce routine.

    • @xmenxwk
      @xmenxwk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can avoid de-bouncing just by software.

  • @abhijithanilkumar4959
    @abhijithanilkumar4959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just beautiful
    Thanks Dave

  • @arongooch
    @arongooch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Dave. Very well explained.

  • @mrfrog8502
    @mrfrog8502 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained. Thanks Dave.

  • @Len02013
    @Len02013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a heap, that solved my problem. I wish I knew about this earlier. I was originally thinking it was noise in the data line, but after this video and a simple resistor did the trick :)

  • @MartinPHE
    @MartinPHE 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learn so much from these Videos Dave, Thank you so much

  • @peterdkay
    @peterdkay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 25:45 you see two oscillations. One at 0.5V peak and the other at 1.5V peak.
    The 1.5V peak could still cause problems. A small capacitor (10pF) across the positive feedback resistor can fix that problem.

  • @apexmike849
    @apexmike849 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super video, very clear explanation - blowing the rust out ;-)

  • @bobblaine1437
    @bobblaine1437 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Dave. Great stuff!

  • @seaarg
    @seaarg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, if you are not already, you should be a teacher. Great tutorials and the aussie accent is a plus... love it. Greetings from Argentina.

  • @petaks01
    @petaks01 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation as always!

  • @foldi001
    @foldi001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read it in books before, but it is realy much better to learn it that way.

  • @LittleRainGames
    @LittleRainGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of these sound bites are gold!

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks Dave, another great tutorial!!!

  • @Tom5TomEntertainment
    @Tom5TomEntertainment 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am very confused but also intrigued.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      A perfectly fine state to be in!

    • @taitano12
      @taitano12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In fact, being confused and intrigued is the best state to be in when learning - provided you use it as incentive to learn more.

  • @stargazer7644
    @stargazer7644 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these. Thanks Dave!

  • @Diamonddrake
    @Diamonddrake 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video dave! Always a fan of fundamentals Friday

  • @jasonbrindamour903
    @jasonbrindamour903 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Siglent generator I see you using.... With your slight encouragement I bought some Siglent equipt....I am learning so much at my tender age of 41...LOL. Thanks!

  • @victorsalvi_
    @victorsalvi_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dave, very informative

  • @stahlight
    @stahlight 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schmidt trigger combined with an RC delay makes an excellent switch debouncer as well :)

  • @doobedoobedo1
    @doobedoobedo1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as always

  • @symik3
    @symik3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work, awesome video!

  • @vinitshandilya
    @vinitshandilya 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This one is so easy to understand as compared to the transistor version.

  • @NorbertHarrer
    @NorbertHarrer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh wonderful stuff. Very well explained. Well done. Thank you!!!

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool explanation, thank you

  • @flashcorp76
    @flashcorp76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw, bloody beautifull, knew all about schmitt triggers, but I love the explanation😀

  • @bttrs
    @bttrs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy! Just today I got my art of electronics an the first page I open is about schmitt triggers, also on friday I had a lab exam in my university about schmitt trigger nand gates! What a coincidence.

  • @Inesophet
    @Inesophet 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice, i learned something thanks dave!

  • @GrayeLara
    @GrayeLara 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelent explanation and vid, just one observation, the final fix to pot oscillation, it's a simple Op Amp as a comparator, a voltage level detector, without hysteresis. Hysteresis have two reference points just how you mentioned it, regards.

  • @tohopes
    @tohopes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So, positive feedback yields hysteresis / makes the output sticky.

  • @ashkananisi5181
    @ashkananisi5181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are absolutely good! more video about Electronic please!

  • @robertvaldimarsson2109
    @robertvaldimarsson2109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpfull video and very well explained. Thank you.

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hysteresis is also used in coding when implementing debounce on push buttons. You set a trigger value, say 20, then you have a "tank" var which is incremented when a button HI is detected and decremented when a button LO is detected during your loop. You never let the tank rise above the trigger value or go negative so you have to cap it in the code. If your loop detects the tank is equal to the trigger then the button status is set to "pressed" if it detects the tank is 0 then the status is set to "not pressed".

  • @GeorgeGraves
    @GeorgeGraves 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video - good lesson. thumbs up!

  • @Matthias051
    @Matthias051 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much again for your awesome video. I loved it very much

  • @clacktronics
    @clacktronics 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up! Love the educational videos

  • @kttkttkt
    @kttkttkt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh, fundamental fridays, i wish you did more of this.

  • @rolandosalgado1552
    @rolandosalgado1552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for share , Dave, 👌

  • @teknikal_domain
    @teknikal_domain 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "It only needs to be a s--- fraction, half a bee's dick, a smidgen above or below..."
    -Dave, 2016
    you made my day with that remark.

  • @friedmule5403
    @friedmule5403 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am totally new to electronic, but learn a lot from you!!
    Question, the excess current, could it not be fixed by using a inductor and a diode in parallel?

  • @evantorrey2779
    @evantorrey2779 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing my professor's job.

  • @adrianprintes2306
    @adrianprintes2306 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice stuffs here i listened 3 of ur videos, one aboput fpga, one about capacitors and this one, nice job...

  • @user-cy7st6bw4b
    @user-cy7st6bw4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, I understand. Thanks a lot!

  • @bigfoottoo2841
    @bigfoottoo2841 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    good one Dave