this theory has been around for a while in the fandom, but i decided to make my own video with my own analysis about the mobius strip theory!! please enjoy and comment ideas below!
My theory is that the order that they are going in is actually backwards. The Eden girls are the ones who spark the loonaverse in motion and then it ends in the 1/3. So the 12th girl is actually the 1st girl. And to prove this more is that at the end of heart attack we see Hasuel in the music video for the Carol which came out before Loona 1/3 even debuted to show that Eden came 1st. When Vivi was with Yves she would didn't have pink hair which showed that she was with her when she was still human before she became an android. And after that OEC started because the Eden girls contacted them (sweet crazy love when someone took out Jinsoul's earphone) Jinsoul was the first to realize this and sought out choerry who was in the 1/3 world and placed the cherrys where she could find them. Kim Lip realized everything when she sensed choerry which triggered eclipse. Choerry ate the cherry and remembered Eden and the other girls. I think she got lost like Yeojin which is why we see them together. I'm pretty sure sweet crazy love was a prequel to girl front and in girl front they where in the OEC world and they're trying to find a way to communicate and find each other and also contact the rest of the members. We see Hyunjin in girl front. So there's a possibility that OEC started Loona 1/3. Also with the evidence that Jinsoul and Vivi were together in Vivi's mv for every day I need you. Loona 1/3 came together but Yeojin is still lost.
I've been thinking something along the same lines! In the Girl Front Video, at the end we have a shot of Kim Lip rewinding a tape recorder, indicating that they were going back to the beginning. So, I definitely think we're getting the origins story of Loona with Yves, Chuu, Go Won, and the final girl. What I'm still debating is if I think Loona 1/3 formation was happening at the same time as Yves setting things into motion. I think the 1/3 girls may have found each other in their world while Yves was finding and awakening the girls in her universe. There are actually a lot of parallels between Chuu and Haseul's videos (the "getting shot" scene, Haseul chasing the other version of herself around like Chuu chasing Yves, Haseul collecting diamonds that lead her to the Blond Haseul and Chuu's constanly trying to give her apple to Yves only for both of them to be "killed" by the items when Haseul shoots Blond Haseul and Chuu bits the apple and is later lying in the snow). Only Haseul, who has already found two of the other Loona girls, is aware of Chuu in Chuu's video - Chuu just gets up and looks around a bit confused. So I think the Loona 1/3 world may have been coming together, either through Yves awakening Vivi and then Vivi awakening Haseul and so on, or Haseul plays the same role Yves does as the person that triggers everything by interferring with the other universes (Haseul shooting Blond Haseul, following the paper airplanes that we also so in Girl Front, etc.)
OH MY GOD i iltterally god goosebumps from this wtf THIS MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE THAN THE CURRECNT CLOCKWISE LOONAVERSE can i copy and save ur comment and share this at other mobius strip videos lol ill credit u
I think Choerry is able to be in all three worlds because she can jump from dimension to dimension. All OEC girls seem to have powers which you can see in the Girl Front MVs! JinSoul can teleport (she's at different places every time she turns around), Kim Lip can go back in time (both the girl front and eclipse video start and end with the same scene where Kim Lip sees herself starting the mv again) and Choerry who is able to jump from world to world. That's why there are the mirrors in here music video: they're the way to a new dimension. The mirrors are arranged in the same way as the dots on the map of girl front. That means that they use the mirrors to jump to different places to look for the other members. I hope this theory isn't too confusing :)
I saw somewhere that Kim Lip's power was super speed, but now that I saw your theory, I think that her power isn't just turning back time, it's controlling time. She can turn back time, pace it faster, and slow it down that's why she seems like she has super speed when running.
Oh wow I didn't know about KimLip's ability to manipulate time, it makes a lot of sense and it explains why she has that doppelganger. Saddly it doesn't explain why Choerry and Haseul also have one.
just wanted to point out at 3:52 where you placed the members in their order you can see: heejin mirroring 12th girl hyunjin mirroring gowon: black cat(hyunjins is a "yellow" cat) in one&only chuu mirroring haseul: haseul wakes chuu up at the end of heart attack yves mirroring yeojin: yves picks up a frog(yeojins animal) in new you have some nice theories!!
omggg you just summed up all the mirroring that was confusing me!! thank you so much! i can't wait for the 12th mv to see how it reflects heejin! thank you so much for this comment ahhh
also!! hyunjin is wearing a black shirt with eden/mint green (gowons color) edges in girl front while the girl whos running around oec is wearing a white shirt with yellow (hyunjins color) edges the caption on hyunjins shirt is either "*YIMER" or "WIMER" bbc has never shown us the first letter of that word. even in loona tv #204, where hyunjin makes an appearance at the end, she covered the first letter of "*YIMER" with her hair. (if you look closely you can see that she tries putting her hair behind her back but the video cuts off! i think bbc edited it so that we cant see the full word on her shirt) what does "*YIMER"/"WIMER" or "REMIY*"/"REMIW" mean??? hmmm is it just a brand or something important omg
Another of my theories: I think Gowon is the girl who walks around OEC. Her name is from Ghana and means Rainmaker. I think she's the one who took out JinSouls headphones and gave her the fish. Later JinSoul forms OEC to look for the other girls. Also Gowons animal is a butterfly. The butterfly theory says that only a little movement of a butterfly wing can cause a tornado. I think it's gowon who gave JinSoul the fish because in that way the OEC was formed which lead to Choerry finding out about her powers. She helps Yves to bring the apple to gowon and gowon falls from Eden. She influenced her own fate! What do you think?
But gowon is the last to leave the eden. The dark haired gowon was too afraid, frustrated and are always hiding but on the other side the blonde haired gowon are more confident and happy. The girl that is circling the OEC are dark haired. Dark haired gowon can't be possibly be the one who appeared on OEC. The possible theory is it might be the last girl or Yves. Remember on gowons MV, it is stated that they are meeting with the other girls. The scene while there were three girls running it appears the first one on the group with yves and chuu wasn't gowon (proportions and height). She was a taller than the other girls while gowon was shorter. Yves' new life can be explained by Vivi. If you look at the MV, there are two solo shots of different shoes. The first one is a loafer (1/3) then a sneaker (OEC) and yves wearing a black healed shoes stepping over the shoes. It appears Yves are possibly on the three units. The message sent to Vivi on her MV was that the guy was asking her out ( i think? That's all i could remember) that could explain why she's skating with vivi on New life's MV. The guy was yves previously, remember yves was a french male name.
Well hello there im a guy from 2019 and it seems Olivia was the one who took out the earphones from jinsoul's ear, aaandddd you just mentioned the butterfly effect, which was incorporated on their latest comeback "Butterfly" STREAM BUTTERFLY Y'ALL
what if Choerry can travel between the three worlds since her number is eight? the symbol of infinity is an eight "lying down". Likewise, the mobius tape is known as a variable to represent infinity because it has a lot of similarity it can be a possibility! pd: sorry my bad english :(
the girl who's blinding yerim in lcm is kimlip -she said it in their latest study group. Anyway I think the yellow uniform is the eden outfit. The scene where vivi and yves skating is in eden, why? well, apparently the skating scene in EILY was vivi's memories before she became an android she doesn't even remember the guy which explained the brightness being so high lmao. plus when she checked the guy pic on the computer only half showed. (she only exist in 1/3 world after becoming an android) I think scl happened before girl front. scl focused on them realizing their odd eyes then continued with their solos to awaken their power. kimlip dancing, jinsoul sacrificing her fish, choerry ate cherry. whilst in girl front they tried to find each other after getting lost in 1/3 world (maybe) after reuniting they look for other girl to complete the moon (?) btw, what's the name of the song ?
yerimIlove what’s the name of which song? Also Kim lip activated her off eye by dancing during the eclipse* that’s what made it special. Jinsoul saving/sacrificing the fish and Choerry eating the cherries!
that's really interesting, i wonder why and how vivi was in eden? and why she became an android? i agree with the sequence of scl first then girl front, but i think in girl front the girls are in the loona 1/3 world so i wonder why? the song is called prisoner by the weeknd, ft lana del rey, tomsize remix! thanks for your comments, this is all so interesting right?
I'm stull obssesed with the Kim Lip moon songs direct references but... have anyone notices that her logo is the only logo that completes the circle for like 3 seconds? You can see the red halo (?) shining bright red. I just found it interesting... 🙂
Also the girl running around OEC can’t be Hyunjin Bc BBC said it was a girl yet to be introduced BUT you just sparked a great theory by pointing out that the shirts have the same block lettering but are INVERSIONS of each other meaning one was black and one was white meaning that the girl that represents Hyunjin in Eden was the girl running around them! Right now that looks to be gowon (but personally I think god is MV better resembles Heejin and the 12th girl will be the one who runs around)
exactly! white and black!! it could definitely be go won because the relationship between hyunjin and go won is strong, i.e. 2nd member and 2nd last member!
The girl running around OEC has to be Yves. Because in Chuu's Heart Attack MV, Chuu tries to copy whatever Yves does. In that MV there's a scene with Chuu running in circles around Yves, trying to get her attention by copying/trying to be like Yves.
I have a theory. There are three forward facing sides on the möbius. In the 3 units, there’s one member that different than the rest: not just in their appearances but in the way they’re introduced: Vivi Choerry and Gowon. (Vivi is an Android, Choerry is the only one who has representing things from all the units; color {everyone but important to OEC}, animal {everyone}, location {1/3 specific} and fruit {YYXY specific}, they’re also the only members in their group that actually look different than the rest. Vivi is pink haired while the rest are brunettes, Choerry is a brunette while the rest are blondes, and Gowon is blonde while the rest are brunettes. Everyone is saying that Loona 1/3 and YYXY are the images of each other but I think we’re looking at this wrong. What if they’re reflections of reflections and the only one who’s mirrored are those three members. Vivi is the original, Choerry is a mirror of Vivi and Gowon is a mirror of Choerry. There’s theories that Vivi was blonde when she was human and that her hair turned pink when she became a robot. If we’re sticking to that theory than it actually makes sense in my theory. A mirror is a reversed image of yourself. Vivi being the original, in her world she’s the odd one with blonde hair, the rest of girls are brunettes. her mirrored image of Choerry, who’s reversed. Everything becomes the opposite so Choerry is a brunette while her group is blonde. Gowon being the opposite of Choerry, she’s the blonde in the group of brunettes. This might be a bit of a stretch but I just wanted to share something I think is plausible
I still think your theory with the 9th member is still correct because in yves mv she takes an elevator that goes to certain numbers (8 and 5) which could mean she can go to 1/3's world or OEC~~
Hyunjin is not the girl who blinds Choerry! It's Choerry herself :) you can see that when you look closely or zoom! I think the people who are connected to more than one world are Choerry and Yves! Yves, Chuu, Gowon and 12th girl try to get out of Eden so they can join Loona. OEC tries to find the other members so they can be together because the other girls don't know about Loona yet. Choerry jumps from dimension to dimension that's why you can see her also in Yves video (she's catching the apple/forbidden fruit) and brings the apple to Gowon. For one second you can see her hanging upside down in Gowons video with an apple in the hand and later she drops it in front of Gowon to make her bite the forbidden fruit. She helps Yves to get all the members out of Eden.
Wow thank you so much for taking your time to make these videos! They're really interesting to watch. I'm a fairly new (but turning into a huge) loona stan and honestly I'm getting headaches from all of this information. I've always looked at their music videos from an aesthetic point of view, because that's what I'm used to with all artists, these theories are crazy good and bbc has my respect. I'm soo eager to see the final girl and subunit, I'm convinced that they want to run away from eden together because they have obviously disobeyed God many times (apples, or even the whole lesbian theme coming into mind), and I'm curious if they will recieve any punishment or if they can connect with the 1/3 world
no problem im glad you enjoy them!! i am also loona trash ahaha, and yes i can't wait to see how the 12th girl will fit in, especially since the others already left eden. where will she appear??
I love this theory! My one thing is that at 4:27 you say how the OEC girls are in 1/3 world during firlfront and that may be true! But they don’t go back to OEC world for SCL because SCL is a prequel to how their subunit formed and how they got their odd eyes! A friend and I were talking about a theory that states that all three units are being made or created at the same time and I wonder how interesting it’d be to go back through everything and see if it lines up!
that is so cool! and would make sense, because once they form subunits they seem to be able to travel across worlds, meaning they all formed at the same time then begun travelling to each other, trying to find each other, like choerry in girl front!
Chuu and go Won escaped Eden and went to the 1/3 world, I think. The girl circling OEC has to be Go Won since she mirrors Hyunjin. White and black are the opposite of each other as the combination and absense of colors. A cat, Hyunjin?,made an appearance in "One&Only". Kimlip was confirmed to be the girl blinding Choerry in the study group, but I'm not sure how that fits into the Loonaverse.
I think the one running circle in OEC is Yves as we look in the MV of chu she run circle while Yves is in the middle and we can clearly know that chu really admired Yves that's why she try to copy anything on Yves her act her dress. And the one who blind cheorry is Kim since if were going to check their MV in this arrangement. OEC : Sweet crazy love (looks like they searching or they don't know anything) Kim Lip : eclipse (since she's the last person in SCL) Cheorry : Love cherry (because in Kim's final part seems like she's heading outside the building which is I think forest? , then she's the one who blind cheorry) Jinsoul : Singing in the rain (because in SCL seems like she's going to bring the fish somewhere) OEC : Girl Front (you can see that jinsoul trying to search the two but in the last part it looks like cheorry and Kim lip found her)
By the way what happened to yeojin??? And did you notice in new mv Yves play the claw machine and get the frog (yeojin) and then penguin (chu)?? (Both cutesy concept right?). Is there a relation between yeojin chu and Yves??
my theory bout choerry travelling in 3 worlds was because she's the 8th member, the mobius strip does look like the infinite ring and it also looks like the number 8 (or 8 kinda looks like the mobius strip if flipped horizontally). I can't really explain it very well but i think y'all understand what I mean.
i think the girl circling oec is yves. in chuu’s mv we see that she is trying to get yves to notice her by mimicking her actions. in one scene, chuu is circling yves, meaning that yves was the one circling oec. that was really poorly explained but hopefully that made sense lol
The clip that shows Kim Lip says she's being watched by someone but it's just her watching herself at the end of Girl Front when they all (and the video itself oddly) loop back to the beginning
I also don't think that Haseul was able to go to Eden! I think Chuu ate her fruit and that's how she got kicked out of Eden and is in the 1/3 world. That's shortly before The Carol takes place
ChuuBerry you are missing haseul solo video, and gowon having full acknowledge of haseul killing her counterpart, so maybe haseul quits her posibillty to enter to Eden, and Gowon tried to stop her to do it.
I think Go Won is the girl circling OEC. Since the shirt is an inverted version of Hyunjin's shirt, when you invert 2 it becomes 11, and Go Won is the 11th girl. Plus her size matches the girl, the girl seems really short and tiny, and BBC said in the MV description that the girl circling OEC has yet to be revealed.
1. oec aren't the ones on the inverted side, they're in the middle while yyxy are the ones mirroring 1/3 2. it's very clear that yves was the one running around oec (in 'new' she takes off the converse and puts in the yyxy shoes, meaning that she just left oec world; and chuu imitating everything she does in 'heart attack' is also a proof when she runs around yves), as she was reaching choerry to get her to help herself reclute gowon (she later appears in new, when yves drops the apple and choerry catches it, to later give it to gowon in one & only) 2. new doesn't happen in 1/3 world, it takes place in eden, where the human form of vivi lived, and where she dies (killed by olivia). she enters 1/3 world once she became an android, but not before going through oec world, where she met jinsoul and got her odd eye
I think that yves was a part of oec, because in her mv, we can see her leaving her white converses for the same black shoes of chuu. And the white converses are wore by all the oec members... (sorry for my bad english im french)
I think the reason why Choerry is able to travel through all worlds (and not the other 2 in OEC), is because JinSoul and Kim Lip are each others mobius, where Choerrys mobious is Vivi.
3:43 There's a loona tv where they thanked hyunjin for being in there mv or asked her for advise (something like that) She had the outfit the girl circling them had
I was thinking... maybe is not only the videos, maybe are the songs too.. And if it's like that, Heejin was in all worlds too 👀 And Kim Lip too! Cause she was on earth in the teaser of LCM and she sings seesaw with the girls of eden 👀🌟
ISNT IT SUCH A COINCIDENCE THAT BOTH THE BOYZ AND LOONA HAVE 12 VISUAL MEMBERS, ONE CANTO MEMBER, A SUPER UNDERRATED LEADER, AND BOTH HAVE THE MOBIUS STRIP IN THEIR CONCEPT SOMEWHERE (the BOYZ have it in a dance)????/?.?:!!?
3:19 i think ViVi is available on three worlds, not just 1/3 and eden. Because you can see her eyes on Love&Live MV, that connected to OEC world(also her uniform clothes in EINY MV look similar to OEC uniforms). So, that's why last December ViRryVes appear on 'New' MV and 'The Carol 2.0' MV ps : sorry for my grammar h3h3 :) eng isn't my mom's toungue lol
hyunjin is probably in the eden world too ( the cat in Gowon's mv ) edit: ex, 12th member(OLIVIA) is the opposite of the 1st member(HEEJIN) and 11th member(GOWON) is the opposite of the 2nd member(HYUNJIN) GOWON&HYUNJIN and the apple that Choerry dropped in Gowon's mv, its probably the only Yves dropped in her mv and Choerry was feature in it (so did ViVi) and she also caught the apple... Hmmmm....
Jass Koala I think the word luna is used as the moon’s “name” in english (in america at least), but it of course just comes from the earlier european languages
my dudes.... pls.... french, italian, spanish, etc they ALL come from latin, it's those countries' original language. Those are the real latin countries. That's why they all have the word luna and they mean the same. Because it's a latin word those languages kept, one of many others. For example, portuguese and french changed it slightly from luna to lua and lune respectively, but it's still derived from luna. "Moon" is greek. Greek and latin were the "mother languages" of the western world
In my opinion, I think the 3rd sub unit is placed on the left side of the Mobius Strip, because their moon's are all headed to the left side. And if that's not the case, then what meaning does their moon's have, if it's not that?
THEORY: Choerry and hyunjin has the traveling power. Why them? Idk but they’re the inverse of each other (I think). Also hyunjin was the cat in gowons MV meaning she’s been in all 3 worlds.
I've just watched Yeojin's MV trying to find something to theorize further (?), is it possible that she's got scenes in Even too? There are scenes where she's dressed in white wearing a crown, the scenes look dark, and there's a giant lamp over her head just like in GoWon's MV.
i think heejin has been to the eden world. vivid started off as white and turned colorful near the end. it was white at the start since heejin is the continuation of olivia from the eden world
i always thinking about how vivi met yves, and how they being a gay couple xD vivi is supposedly in oec world, but something happened to her and cause her move to 1/3 and became android with odd eye. and do you saw vivi's odd eye looks different with oec's ? oec's odd eyes shine and form eclipse. while vivi's inverted of it. (idk how to explain. sorry:') then EILY is the prequel of vivi's story in L&L. while someone (haseul) looked at vivi's memories before she became android. why haseul? bcs i was read a theory from twitter, haseul was falling in love with yves (yes, another gay couple :)) but she can't have her, bcs she knew that yves is one of goddess in the eden. (thats why when she wear feather clothes like one of yves' teaser). then, haseul brings back vivi's memories and 'change' the person who skated with vivi with guy, bcs she wont vivi get hurt for falling in love with yves. in the other world, we can see vivi's cassette was broken in new & EILY MVs. yves knows that when she falling from eden, it cause vivi moved to 1/3 world and turned her into android. then she 'read' vivi's memories by play her cassette. and she bring back vivi's memories by asked vivi to skate with her. then chuu comes and falling in love with yves too. in the end we can see haseul wakes chuu up, and slightly smiles at her. maybe she have a feeling that something will happened to her and yves. but i kinda messed up with the timeline too. maybe you want to fix it with your theories? kkkk ^^;;
You said Yves was in 1/3 world with vivi but i think vivi was in eden after being converted into EILY so she had to pass OEC world to go to 1/3 world and thats what she has a odd eye in love & live and also BBC said everyday i love you is a restaured memory of vivi when she was human so new takes place after 1/3
I don't mean to be rude but I got confused around 3:04 to 3:32 as you said that "new" took place in the garden of eden world for ViVi but then said that it takes place in LOONA 1/3 world for Yves. Am I just being stupid?
nooo sorry i know it's confusing! what i meant is that im not sure if new is in loona 1/3 or eden!! if it is in loona 1/3, then yves was able to travel there. if it is in eden worldm then vivi was able to travel there. sorry for the confusion!!
The Mobius Strip might also explain why in the OEC teaser the th-cam.com/video/3Q9hJBog8QI/w-d-xo.html at 00:56 they are shown upside down in the reflecting
hi i'm a new orbit and i was watching this video and when i went to the backward URL and it has changed. it no longer shows the mobius strip. it shows a dna double helix turning around. i know i have a lot to catch up on considering im new but it would be a really help if someone could tell me about this dna thing or maybe someone took the url link.
welcome!! thanks for watching my video love 💕 I think the DNA relates to yyxy, since it changed to that as soon as they debuted. yyxy relates to the chromosomes which make up DNA, so that could be the correlation, but I'm not entirely sure 😊
Okay so you know how you searched loonatheworld.com but backwards and said it showed the Mobius strip. But now I recently did it and it shows a DNA model. I think they changed it after yyxy debuted since xx is female chromosomes and xy is male chromosomes. And I heard that yyxy is like a new species or something idk. But I'm really curious about it
Brain 404 not found after watching this
relatable ahahha, i get headaches from making these videos sometimes !!
My theory is that the order that they are going in is actually backwards. The Eden girls are the ones who spark the loonaverse in motion and then it ends in the 1/3. So the 12th girl is actually the 1st girl. And to prove this more is that at the end of heart attack we see Hasuel in the music video for the Carol which came out before Loona 1/3 even debuted to show that Eden came 1st. When Vivi was with Yves she would didn't have pink hair which showed that she was with her when she was still human before she became an android. And after that OEC started because the Eden girls contacted them (sweet crazy love when someone took out Jinsoul's earphone) Jinsoul was the first to realize this and sought out choerry who was in the 1/3 world and placed the cherrys where she could find them. Kim Lip realized everything when she sensed choerry which triggered eclipse. Choerry ate the cherry and remembered Eden and the other girls. I think she got lost like Yeojin which is why we see them together. I'm pretty sure sweet crazy love was a prequel to girl front and in girl front they where in the OEC world and they're trying to find a way to communicate and find each other and also contact the rest of the members. We see Hyunjin in girl front. So there's a possibility that OEC started Loona 1/3. Also with the evidence that Jinsoul and Vivi were together in Vivi's mv for every day I need you. Loona 1/3 came together but Yeojin is still lost.
Elenaisrad this makes so much sence :0 holy moly
I've been thinking something along the same lines! In the Girl Front Video, at the end we have a shot of Kim Lip rewinding a tape recorder, indicating that they were going back to the beginning. So, I definitely think we're getting the origins story of Loona with Yves, Chuu, Go Won, and the final girl. What I'm still debating is if I think Loona 1/3 formation was happening at the same time as Yves setting things into motion. I think the 1/3 girls may have found each other in their world while Yves was finding and awakening the girls in her universe. There are actually a lot of parallels between Chuu and Haseul's videos (the "getting shot" scene, Haseul chasing the other version of herself around like Chuu chasing Yves, Haseul collecting diamonds that lead her to the Blond Haseul and Chuu's constanly trying to give her apple to Yves only for both of them to be "killed" by the items when Haseul shoots Blond Haseul and Chuu bits the apple and is later lying in the snow). Only Haseul, who has already found two of the other Loona girls, is aware of Chuu in Chuu's video - Chuu just gets up and looks around a bit confused. So I think the Loona 1/3 world may have been coming together, either through Yves awakening Vivi and then Vivi awakening Haseul and so on, or Haseul plays the same role Yves does as the person that triggers everything by interferring with the other universes (Haseul shooting Blond Haseul, following the paper airplanes that we also so in Girl Front, etc.)
KAZ1167 That a good point! I haven't thought of that.
OH MY GOD i iltterally god goosebumps from this wtf THIS MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE THAN THE CURRECNT CLOCKWISE LOONAVERSE can i copy and save ur comment and share this at other mobius strip videos lol ill credit u
I think Choerry is able to be in all three worlds because she can jump from dimension to dimension. All OEC girls seem to have powers which you can see in the Girl Front MVs! JinSoul can teleport (she's at different places every time she turns around), Kim Lip can go back in time (both the girl front and eclipse video start and end with the same scene where Kim Lip sees herself starting the mv again) and Choerry who is able to jump from world to world. That's why there are the mirrors in here music video: they're the way to a new dimension. The mirrors are arranged in the same way as the dots on the map of girl front. That means that they use the mirrors to jump to different places to look for the other members. I hope this theory isn't too confusing :)
that is a really great way of looking at it !!
I saw somewhere that Kim Lip's power was super speed, but now that I saw your theory, I think that her power isn't just turning back time, it's controlling time. She can turn back time, pace it faster, and slow it down that's why she seems like she has super speed when running.
Oh wow I didn't know about KimLip's ability to manipulate time, it makes a lot of sense and it explains why she has that doppelganger. Saddly it doesn't explain why Choerry and Haseul also have one.
omgggg the mirrossss, thats genius
But i thought that the reason kim lip sees herself is because theyre caught in a time toop? and they need all the members to break the loop?
just wanted to point out at 3:52 where you placed the members in their order you can see:
heejin mirroring 12th girl
hyunjin mirroring gowon: black cat(hyunjins is a "yellow" cat) in one&only
chuu mirroring haseul: haseul wakes chuu up at the end of heart attack
yves mirroring yeojin: yves picks up a frog(yeojins animal) in new
you have some nice theories!!
omggg you just summed up all the mirroring that was confusing me!! thank you so much! i can't wait for the 12th mv to see how it reflects heejin! thank you so much for this comment ahhh
also!! hyunjin is wearing a black shirt with eden/mint green (gowons color) edges in girl front
while the girl whos running around oec is wearing a white shirt with yellow (hyunjins color) edges
the caption on hyunjins shirt is either "*YIMER" or "WIMER"
bbc has never shown us the first letter of that word. even in loona tv #204, where hyunjin makes an appearance at the end, she covered the first letter of "*YIMER" with her hair. (if you look closely you can see that she tries putting her hair behind her back but the video cuts off! i think bbc edited it so that we cant see the full word on her shirt)
what does "*YIMER"/"WIMER" or "REMIY*"/"REMIW" mean??? hmmm is it just a brand or something important omg
Another of my theories: I think Gowon is the girl who walks around OEC. Her name is from Ghana and means Rainmaker. I think she's the one who took out JinSouls headphones and gave her the fish. Later JinSoul forms OEC to look for the other girls. Also Gowons animal is a butterfly. The butterfly theory says that only a little movement of a butterfly wing can cause a tornado. I think it's gowon who gave JinSoul the fish because in that way the OEC was formed which lead to Choerry finding out about her powers. She helps Yves to bring the apple to gowon and gowon falls from Eden. She influenced her own fate! What do you think?
that is really awesome and i totally agree!!
But gowon is the last to leave the eden. The dark haired gowon was too afraid, frustrated and are always hiding but on the other side the blonde haired gowon are more confident and happy. The girl that is circling the OEC are dark haired. Dark haired gowon can't be possibly be the one who appeared on OEC. The possible theory is it might be the last girl or Yves. Remember on gowons MV, it is stated that they are meeting with the other girls. The scene while there were three girls running it appears the first one on the group with yves and chuu wasn't gowon (proportions and height). She was a taller than the other girls while gowon was shorter. Yves' new life can be explained by Vivi. If you look at the MV, there are two solo shots of different shoes. The first one is a loafer (1/3) then a sneaker (OEC) and yves wearing a black healed shoes stepping over the shoes. It appears Yves are possibly on the three units. The message sent to Vivi on her MV was that the guy was asking her out ( i think? That's all i could remember) that could explain why she's skating with vivi on New life's MV. The guy was yves previously, remember yves was a french male name.
Well hello there im a guy from 2019 and it seems Olivia was the one who took out the earphones from jinsoul's ear, aaandddd you just mentioned the butterfly effect, which was incorporated on their latest comeback "Butterfly" STREAM BUTTERFLY Y'ALL
what if Choerry can travel between the three worlds since her number is eight? the symbol of infinity is an eight "lying down". Likewise, the mobius tape is known as a variable to represent infinity because it has a lot of similarity
it can be a possibility! pd: sorry my bad english :(
yes!! that totally explains it! thank you so much for sharing and your english is fine!!
the girl who's blinding yerim in lcm is kimlip -she said it in their latest study group. Anyway I think the yellow uniform is the eden outfit. The scene where vivi and yves skating is in eden, why? well, apparently the skating scene in EILY was vivi's memories before she became an android she doesn't even remember the guy which explained the brightness being so high lmao. plus when she checked the guy pic on the computer only half showed. (she only exist in 1/3 world after becoming an android)
I think scl happened before girl front. scl focused on them realizing their odd eyes then continued with their solos to awaken their power. kimlip dancing, jinsoul sacrificing her fish, choerry ate cherry. whilst in girl front they tried to find each other after getting lost in 1/3 world (maybe) after reuniting they look for other girl to complete the moon (?)
btw, what's the name of the song ?
yerimIlove what’s the name of which song? Also Kim lip activated her off eye by dancing during the eclipse* that’s what made it special. Jinsoul saving/sacrificing the fish and Choerry eating the cherries!
that's really interesting, i wonder why and how vivi was in eden? and why she became an android? i agree with the sequence of scl first then girl front, but i think in girl front the girls are in the loona 1/3 world so i wonder why? the song is called prisoner by the weeknd, ft lana del rey, tomsize remix! thanks for your comments, this is all so interesting right?
What if..Vivi is the first one that exist in real world and she dead. Then, yves bring her back but become an android? Thats how she met loona 1/3.
This whole Android and Human ViVi confuses me....alot
I'm stull obssesed with the Kim Lip moon songs direct references but... have anyone notices that her logo is the only logo that completes the circle for like 3 seconds? You can see the red halo (?) shining bright red. I just found it interesting... 🙂
Esme Calderón Yeah, like an Eclipse
maybe because she is the 6th member, half way through the moon cycles?
cus she is the one who triggers the eclipse
i swear when loona debuts its gonna be like going through a exam
it isn't already ?? hahah
“love is harder than a college entrance exam”
@@okaymsgirl5291 should have said "loonaverse is harder than entrance exam" SFHGGTHJJ
If you've noticed, in OT12 songs, the moon's colors go in reverse debut order
Also the girl running around OEC can’t be Hyunjin Bc BBC said it was a girl yet to be introduced BUT you just sparked a great theory by pointing out that the shirts have the same block lettering but are INVERSIONS of each other meaning one was black and one was white meaning that the girl that represents Hyunjin in Eden was the girl running around them! Right now that looks to be gowon (but personally I think god is MV better resembles Heejin and the 12th girl will be the one who runs around)
exactly! white and black!! it could definitely be go won because the relationship between hyunjin and go won is strong, i.e. 2nd member and 2nd last member!
The girl running around OEC has to be Yves. Because in Chuu's Heart Attack MV, Chuu tries to copy whatever Yves does. In that MV there's a scene with Chuu running in circles around Yves, trying to get her attention by copying/trying to be like Yves.
@@kelciethomas2081 Oh, that's smart!
I have a theory. There are three forward facing sides on the möbius. In the 3 units, there’s one member that different than the rest: not just in their appearances but in the way they’re introduced: Vivi Choerry and Gowon. (Vivi is an Android, Choerry is the only one who has representing things from all the units; color {everyone but important to OEC}, animal {everyone}, location {1/3 specific} and fruit {YYXY specific}, they’re also the only members in their group that actually look different than the rest. Vivi is pink haired while the rest are brunettes, Choerry is a brunette while the rest are blondes, and Gowon is blonde while the rest are brunettes. Everyone is saying that Loona 1/3 and YYXY are the images of each other but I think we’re looking at this wrong. What if they’re reflections of reflections and the only one who’s mirrored are those three members. Vivi is the original, Choerry is a mirror of Vivi and Gowon is a mirror of Choerry.
There’s theories that Vivi was blonde when she was human and that her hair turned pink when she became a robot. If we’re sticking to that theory than it actually makes sense in my theory. A mirror is a reversed image of yourself. Vivi being the original, in her world she’s the odd one with blonde hair, the rest of girls are brunettes. her mirrored image of Choerry, who’s reversed. Everything becomes the opposite so Choerry is a brunette while her group is blonde. Gowon being the opposite of Choerry, she’s the blonde in the group of brunettes.
This might be a bit of a stretch but I just wanted to share something I think is plausible
OEC also has super powers but during that time Choerry used hers to visit each world
Choerry is a bat, so she can hang up-side-down!
4:56 I think it's Yves. In Yves' music video new, there was a cassette tape which is the same with what's the girl circling odd eye was holding.
I still think your theory with the 9th member is still correct because in yves mv she takes an elevator that goes to certain numbers (8 and 5) which could mean she can go to 1/3's world or OEC~~
oooh i love this !!!
Hyunjin is not the girl who blinds Choerry! It's Choerry herself :) you can see that when you look closely or zoom! I think the people who are connected to more than one world are Choerry and Yves! Yves, Chuu, Gowon and 12th girl try to get out of Eden so they can join Loona. OEC tries to find the other members so they can be together because the other girls don't know about Loona yet. Choerry jumps from dimension to dimension that's why you can see her also in Yves video (she's catching the apple/forbidden fruit) and brings the apple to Gowon. For one second you can see her hanging upside down in Gowons video with an apple in the hand and later she drops it in front of Gowon to make her bite the forbidden fruit. She helps Yves to get all the members out of Eden.
I’m really in love with your theory and work with all the info! It makes me love loona even more❤️‼️
omggg thank you so much, you just made my day
Wow thank you so much for taking your time to make these videos! They're really interesting to watch. I'm a fairly new (but turning into a huge) loona stan and honestly I'm getting headaches from all of this information. I've always looked at their music videos from an aesthetic point of view, because that's what I'm used to with all artists, these theories are crazy good and bbc has my respect. I'm soo eager to see the final girl and subunit, I'm convinced that they want to run away from eden together because they have obviously disobeyed God many times (apples, or even the whole lesbian theme coming into mind), and I'm curious if they will recieve any punishment or if they can connect with the 1/3 world
no problem im glad you enjoy them!! i am also loona trash ahaha, and yes i can't wait to see how the 12th girl will fit in, especially since the others already left eden. where will she appear??
I love this theory! My one thing is that at 4:27 you say how the OEC girls are in 1/3 world during firlfront and that may be true! But they don’t go back to OEC world for SCL because SCL is a prequel to how their subunit formed and how they got their odd eyes! A friend and I were talking about a theory that states that all three units are being made or created at the same time and I wonder how interesting it’d be to go back through everything and see if it lines up!
that is so cool! and would make sense, because once they form subunits they seem to be able to travel across worlds, meaning they all formed at the same time then begun travelling to each other, trying to find each other, like choerry in girl front!
Chuu and go Won escaped Eden and went to the 1/3 world, I think. The girl circling OEC has to be Go Won since she mirrors Hyunjin. White and black are the opposite of each other as the combination and absense of colors. A cat, Hyunjin?,made an appearance in "One&Only". Kimlip was confirmed to be the girl blinding Choerry in the study group, but I'm not sure how that fits into the Loonaverse.
i am definitely starting to think it was go won circling the group! makes a lot of sense, inverted colours, and 2nd and 2nd last members
i was nearly crying while watching the video... this is the side of loona that never seen before
omggg ahahah don't cryyyy !! cry with joy
lily kim you really are hard working:") keep up the good work please💕
aww thank you so much !! i put so much time into my videos because i am really passionate about them
I think the one running circle in OEC is Yves as we look in the MV of chu she run circle while Yves is in the middle and we can clearly know that chu really admired Yves that's why she try to copy anything on Yves her act her dress.
And the one who blind cheorry is Kim since if were going to check their MV in this arrangement.
OEC : Sweet crazy love (looks like they searching or they don't know anything)
Kim Lip : eclipse (since she's the last person in SCL)
Cheorry : Love cherry (because in Kim's final part seems like she's heading outside the building which is I think forest? , then she's the one who blind cheorry)
Jinsoul : Singing in the rain (because in SCL seems like she's going to bring the fish somewhere)
OEC : Girl Front (you can see that jinsoul trying to search the two but in the last part it looks like cheorry and Kim lip found her)
This makes so much sense! and at the end of egotist Oliva meets with hyunjin completing the mobius strip.
this is so smart!! i will look forward to your next theories
i love you, please make more videos! i will be waiiting!
aww yay thank you so much!! i will try :)
By the way what happened to yeojin??? And did you notice in new mv Yves play the claw machine and get the frog (yeojin) and then penguin (chu)?? (Both cutesy concept right?). Is there a relation between yeojin chu and Yves??
no, she get a frog and an owl! the penguin's color is black
don't forget olivia hey also has a claw machine scene
my theory bout choerry travelling in 3 worlds was because she's the 8th member, the mobius strip does look like the infinite ring and it also looks like the number 8 (or 8 kinda looks like the mobius strip if flipped horizontally). I can't really explain it very well but i think y'all understand what I mean.
i think the girl circling oec is yves. in chuu’s mv we see that she is trying to get yves to notice her by mimicking her actions. in one scene, chuu is circling yves, meaning that yves was the one circling oec. that was really poorly explained but hopefully that made sense lol
Needs to be updated with Olivia hye
The clip that shows Kim Lip says she's being watched by someone but it's just her watching herself at the end of Girl Front when they all (and the video itself oddly) loop back to the beginning
I also don't think that Haseul was able to go to Eden! I think Chuu ate her fruit and that's how she got kicked out of Eden and is in the 1/3 world. That's shortly before The Carol takes place
ChuuBerry you are missing haseul solo video, and gowon having full acknowledge of haseul killing her counterpart, so maybe haseul quits her posibillty to enter to Eden, and Gowon tried to stop her to do it.
this isn't really a big deal, but actually Lip sayd that the one who is blinded choerry with the mirror in LCM was her and not Jinsoul
hmmm that's interesting, I wonder how it changes things
I think Go Won is the girl circling OEC. Since the shirt is an inverted version of Hyunjin's shirt, when you invert 2 it becomes 11, and Go Won is the 11th girl. Plus her size matches the girl, the girl seems really short and tiny, and BBC said in the MV description that the girl circling OEC has yet to be revealed.
Im sure that it is Yves running around OEC girls. She is running in CONVERSE. She taking CONVERSE off in her mv
1. oec aren't the ones on the inverted side, they're in the middle while yyxy are the ones mirroring 1/3
2. it's very clear that yves was the one running around oec (in 'new' she takes off the converse and puts in the yyxy shoes, meaning that she just left oec world; and chuu imitating everything she does in 'heart attack' is also a proof when she runs around yves), as she was reaching choerry to get her to help herself reclute gowon (she later appears in new, when yves drops the apple and choerry catches it, to later give it to gowon in one & only)
2. new doesn't happen in 1/3 world, it takes place in eden, where the human form of vivi lived, and where she dies (killed by olivia). she enters 1/3 world once she became an android, but not before going through oec world, where she met jinsoul and got her odd eye
I think that yves was a part of oec, because in her mv, we can see her leaving her white converses for the same black shoes of chuu. And the white converses are wore by all the oec members... (sorry for my bad english im french)
I think the reason why Choerry is able to travel through all worlds (and not the other 2 in OEC), is because JinSoul and Kim Lip are each others mobius, where Choerrys mobious is Vivi.
now that olivia is out we can see that heejin appears on her world too
3:43
There's a loona tv where they thanked hyunjin for being in there mv or asked her for advise (something like that)
She had the outfit the girl circling them had
bicc i alrd got goosebumps when i just knew "dlrowehtanool" was actually loonatheworld kdhakfhs
I was thinking... maybe is not only the videos, maybe are the songs too..
And if it's like that, Heejin was in all worlds too 👀
And Kim Lip too! Cause she was on earth in the teaser of LCM and she sings seesaw with the girls of eden 👀🌟
I think it's Vivi who pulled jinsoul earphones since she also has an odd eye. she has to get out from oec to be human
I believe Haseul has been to all three worlds as well. The truck from Let Me In appeared in OEC's Girl Front music video.
the person who took jinsoul's earbuds was olivia not yves
you're right! confirmed in olivia's mv!
Please update with Olivia too!!!
ISNT IT SUCH A COINCIDENCE THAT BOTH THE BOYZ AND LOONA HAVE 12 VISUAL MEMBERS, ONE CANTO MEMBER, A SUPER UNDERRATED LEADER, AND BOTH HAVE THE MOBIUS STRIP IN THEIR CONCEPT SOMEWHERE (the BOYZ have it in a dance)????/?.?:!!?
3:19 i think ViVi is available on three worlds, not just 1/3 and eden. Because you can see her eyes on Love&Live MV, that connected to OEC world(also her uniform clothes in EINY MV look similar to OEC uniforms).
So, that's why last December ViRryVes appear on 'New' MV and 'The Carol 2.0' MV
ps : sorry for my grammar h3h3 :) eng isn't my mom's toungue lol
I don't know if someone remember, but in girl front the map Choerry uses has an apple. There!
this was before olivia omg EVEN MORE TO THINK ABOUT OOF
hyunjin is probably in the eden world too ( the cat in Gowon's mv )
edit: ex, 12th member(OLIVIA) is the opposite of the 1st member(HEEJIN) and 11th member(GOWON) is the opposite of the 2nd member(HYUNJIN) GOWON&HYUNJIN
and the apple that Choerry dropped in Gowon's mv, its probably the only Yves dropped in her mv and Choerry was feature in it (so did ViVi) and she also caught the apple... Hmmmm....
maybe OEC is purgatory. they are the ones mainly stuck in the loop after all
I know it is not strictly coherent with this theory but Loona read as Luna means moon both in latin and in italian
perhaps because the mobius strip, as i pointed out here, revolves around the moon. so, the girls revolve around the loona!
also, dal (as in i-dal-ui sonyeo/이달 의 소녀) means both moon and month in korean. one month is also a lunar cycle.
Jass Koala I think the word luna is used as the moon’s “name” in english (in america at least), but it of course just comes from the earlier european languages
my dudes.... pls.... french, italian, spanish, etc they ALL come from latin, it's those countries' original language. Those are the real latin countries. That's why they all have the word luna and they mean the same. Because it's a latin word those languages kept, one of many others. For example, portuguese and french changed it slightly from luna to lua and lune respectively, but it's still derived from luna. "Moon" is greek. Greek and latin were the "mother languages" of the western world
The girl running in Loonatic reminded me of the relay race in Love&Live so I thought it was one of the 1/3 girls.
In my opinion, I think the 3rd sub unit is placed on the left side of the Mobius Strip, because their moon's are all headed to the left side. And if that's not the case, then what meaning does their moon's have, if it's not that?
i want to get into the entire loonaverse thing but i dont know where to start and im so confused
4:16 arent they being watched by anothe choerry? so the one circling them should be choerry too
THEORY: Choerry and hyunjin has the traveling power. Why them? Idk but they’re the inverse of each other (I think). Also hyunjin was the cat in gowons MV meaning she’s been in all 3 worlds.
i think the cat in go won's mv was because hyunjin and gowon are the inverse of each other!
in LCM kim lip is the one blinding choerry using the mirror's reflection not jinsoul ZzzZ
yep!! just confirmed
the one who takes jinsoul earbud in scl is olivia
I've just watched Yeojin's MV trying to find something to theorize further (?), is it possible that she's got scenes in Even too? There are scenes where she's dressed in white wearing a crown, the scenes look dark, and there's a giant lamp over her head just like in GoWon's MV.
cheorry power is she can enter a portal through mirror. She received the power whenever she eats the cherry
Awesome theory. Please tell me the background music
0:37 isnt jinsoul able to trascend all three too?
i think heejin has been to the eden world. vivid started off as white and turned colorful near the end. it was white at the start since heejin is the continuation of olivia from the eden world
Natalia Londres I agree! watch my heejin vivid mv theory video I explore what you described in detail !!
lily kim ahh sure!! your videos are great btw! 💓
awww thanks so much !!!
I went to the reverse site today that should have had the möbius and it didn't. There was a DNA looking thing but not what's normally there. Ideas?
i always thinking about how vivi met yves, and how they being a gay couple xD
vivi is supposedly in oec world, but something happened to her and cause her move to 1/3 and became android with odd eye. and do you saw vivi's odd eye looks different with oec's ? oec's odd eyes shine and form eclipse. while vivi's inverted of it. (idk how to explain. sorry:')
then EILY is the prequel of vivi's story in L&L. while someone (haseul) looked at vivi's memories before she became android.
why haseul?
bcs i was read a theory from twitter, haseul was falling in love with yves (yes, another gay couple :)) but she can't have her, bcs she knew that yves is one of goddess in the eden. (thats why when she wear feather clothes like one of yves' teaser). then, haseul brings back vivi's memories and 'change' the person who skated with vivi with guy, bcs she wont vivi get hurt for falling in love with yves.
in the other world, we can see vivi's cassette was broken in new & EILY MVs. yves knows that when she falling from eden, it cause vivi moved to 1/3 world and turned her into android. then she 'read' vivi's memories by play her cassette. and she bring back vivi's memories by asked vivi to skate with her.
then chuu comes and falling in love with yves too. in the end we can see haseul wakes chuu up, and slightly smiles at her. maybe she have a feeling that something will happened to her and yves.
but i kinda messed up with the timeline too. maybe you want to fix it with your theories? kkkk ^^;;
6:30 now the dlrowehtanool page is just like loonatheworld page
this was awesome thank you!!
3:37 inst the one circling them the other choerry?
Now that I’ve seen egoist the girl circling oec looks like Olivia
4:32 the girl blinding Choerry is the other Choerry
3:06 im pretty sure new takes place in 1/3 world
I'm s c r e a m i n g. I'll get a real attack with them :') Thank you so much for these videos!!
no problem im so glad you enjoy them! xx
What's the song in the back? ^^
tomsize remiz of the weeknd's prisoner ft lana del rey
You said Yves was in 1/3 world with vivi but i think vivi was in eden after being converted into EILY so she had to pass OEC world to go to 1/3 world and thats what she has a odd eye in love & live and also BBC said everyday i love you is a restaured memory of vivi when she was human so new takes place after 1/3
that makes sense as to why she was in all the worlds!! thanks for sharing :)
Would you give me permission to use the basis of this theory and upload it to my channel but in Spanish and narrated? Obviously giving you credits ❣
I don't mean to be rude but I got confused around 3:04 to 3:32 as you said that "new" took place in the garden of eden world for ViVi but then said that it takes place in LOONA 1/3 world for Yves. Am I just being stupid?
nooo sorry i know it's confusing! what i meant is that im not sure if new is in loona 1/3 or eden!! if it is in loona 1/3, then yves was able to travel there. if it is in eden worldm then vivi was able to travel there. sorry for the confusion!!
The Mobius Strip might also explain why in the OEC teaser the th-cam.com/video/3Q9hJBog8QI/w-d-xo.html
at 00:56 they are shown upside down in the reflecting
which song remix is this? this doesnt seem like the tomsize remix
My heaD HURTS
hi i'm a new orbit and i was watching this video and when i went to the backward URL and it has changed. it no longer shows the mobius strip. it shows a dna double helix turning around. i know i have a lot to catch up on considering im new but it would be a really help if someone could tell me about this dna thing or maybe someone took the url link.
welcome!! thanks for watching my video love 💕 I think the DNA relates to yyxy, since it changed to that as soon as they debuted. yyxy relates to the chromosomes which make up DNA, so that could be the correlation, but I'm not entirely sure 😊
The 9th member is yves!
What song is the intro
tomsize remix of the weeknd's prisoner ft lana del rey
did they shutdown the reversed loonatheworld????
Okay so you know how you searched loonatheworld.com but backwards and said it showed the Mobius strip. But now I recently did it and it shows a DNA model. I think they changed it after yyxy debuted since xx is female chromosomes and xy is male chromosomes. And I heard that yyxy is like a new species or something idk. But I'm really curious about it
whats the name of the song playing in the bg :0 it sounds familiar
tomsize remix of the weeknd's prisoner ft lana del rey!! :)
what song is playing at begining?
i don't think yves was in 1/3 world during new, i think vivi was in eden
wait but wasn't kimlip in hyungjins around you revisit mv or am I wrong doesn't that put her in 1/3rd world
If you were referring to the 'special version' mv of around you, those were clips from their web drama, it has nothing to do with the loonaverse
bruh Loona is something else entirely
What song?
But HeeJin has been to eden with Olivia
5:44 where are those shots from?
Lucy P the odd eye circle teaser th-cam.com/video/3Q9hJBog8QI/w-d-xo.html
Woahhh
What the actual fuck, I just looked up mobius strip and this is what I get. @OP you are clinically insane. And im not even a doctor.
Cheorrycan be leader
Tbh BBC are kind of skimming over my bias Kim Lip
Not relevant to this video
But which song is used?😅
prisoner by the weekend tomsize remix :)
Thankzx