Ok I have been replaying this for a while now and I cannot deny that this probably one of the best theory I have seen recently . Honestly the points that you pointed out literally gave me chills. Thanks you so much for this theory ❤️❤️❤️
whoa this gagged me for real like most "reverse debut" sort of yyxy-1/3 theories don't do it for me but you explained it really well... a scale with oec as the fulcrum thats amazing
This is just a Theory that I made. I think it has some contact with your video especially the connection between HaSeul and choerry. Let me know what you think I'll paste my theory right here:- CONECTION BETWEEN HASEUL🕊️, CHUU🐧, KIM LIP🦉 AND CHOERRY🦇. 1. Heart attack So before I go any further I need to explain what do I think happened in heart attack. We know heart attack happened on the earth cause it doesn't have borders and only pre-debut videos that happened on the Earth don't have borders. Because of that it's logical that Chuu sinned before Heart attack and then she was exiled to the earth. So I think she sinned, went to the earth, fell asleep and had a dream about her and Yves and then Haseul waked her up. So technically Yves wasn't there, but she was a part of Chuu's imagination. I'll still refer to her as Yves and not Chuu's imagination cause it's easier. Btw stuff that happened on Earth don't have borders cause they're the most realistic and similar to the real world. You can see Chuu made borders herself couple of times throughout the video (window, her hands, opening present etc.) That's cause the thing that separates her from real world is her imagination. 2. Bird Haseul In one of my previous comment I mentioned what I think about the hair colours in the Loonaverse, but I'm gonna summarize it here. The lighter hair you have the more knowledgeable you are. You get knowledge by either being picked by Yves's claw machine or eating a forbidden fruit. Gowon had dark hair untill she got crowned by Yves, Vivi had blonde hair when she was with Yves but after she lost her memories her hair got darker etc. Anyways some members like Hyunjin and Olivia have knowledge but they don't have light hair cause they have their own understanding of the Loonaverse and don't listen to Yves. Bird Haseul is knowledgeable Haseul. At the begging of her MV we see dark red logo cause Yves was right there. Also Haseul's feather outfit is very similar to Yves's swan outfit. I still don't think that's actually Yves, I think Yves is only showing Haseul how would it be like if she had knowledge. 3. Conection between Haseul and Chuu First of all Yves is absent in both MVs even if she's just a part of Chuu's imagination and even if it's not an actual Yves. The scene where Yves shots Chuu looks identical to scene where Haseul is shooting her other self. Btw the confetti around Chuu when she got shot look like feathers of the other Haseul when she got shot. Both of them are sure meeting Yves is a destiny. HA: "Surly you're my destiny " LMI: "It can't be a coincidence" Chuu loves Yves so much that she is trying to be like her. LMI:"The moon rises and I eventually become you" "Getting more like you, getting used to you, solely your girl" There's also a scene where Chuu is outside of the window. She could tell Yves "Let me in" LMI: "Inside my quiet heart, a place that's deep and dark, you barged in" HA: "The day we first met, inside my quiet heart, you attack my heart" LMI: "My heart gets coloured with you" HA: "Dipped you inside my white heart and made it red" Also Haseul said "you can't rush" and Chuu wants things to happen quickly "accelerate particularly, move" They are opposites. Vibe of the songs is different as well. 4. Haseul and Choerry There are less things about them but first watch this comparison video: t.co/y3K3NxIQ3C?amp=1 I won't be talking about everything you've seen. Haseul pick up diamonds and Choerry was seen wearing diamond earrings. Choerry is in the nest in love cherry motion. That seemed a bit weird but now it makes sense. LMI: "It can't be a coincidence, It can't be rushed. The sweet whispering in my ear" LCM: "Our story started so suddenly. Even my ears start to tickle" 5. Let me in as a loop Yves is trying to get Haseul to accept other Haseul, but she can't cause she's stuck in the loop. She drops diamonds cause the next day she'll pick them up again. It always ends with Haseul shooting her other self. 6. Kim Lip and Haseul The setting of a Let me in is in Iceland, filled with snow and it shows a wrecked plane. That's a reflection of Haseul's heart "It may go cold again but defrost my heart" LMI: ”The wind blows deep into my heart picking at the flower petals melt my heart That might get cold again” SCL Kimberly's lyrics: "Frozen hearts wake up one by one" Does that means Kim Kip was the one to defrost Haseul's heart? Colours lyrics, Kim Lip and Haseul together: "Redly, hotly Could it be that my heart is acting like this? Is this called love?” Kim Lip and Haseul are mirrors of eachother cause they're opposites in colour spectrum like Choerry and Hyunjin. That reflects their solos. Kim Lip can't fall sleep and Haseul wants to be awaken. Kim Lip is seen shooting her other self in Girls front same like Haseul. In 2 Kim Lip's teaser photos she was standing in the same pose as Haseul in 2 other teasers. Too bad I can't share those photos here, but they look so similar :( Haseul made a same hand gesture in EILY as Kim Lip in Eclipse. 7. Frozen by yyxy This one is short but producer of frozen said this about the song: "In places like ice-filled Iceland, a little girl sings alone with a weak voice... some kind of a song of Ice and Fire." 8. Something is off with Haseul In high hi all girls are seen running, but not Haseul. In Rain 51bd you can hear all songs but not Let me in. In group pictures Haseul is always seen watching in the other direction then everyone else. Perhaps Haseul never killed her other self. Isn't it creepy thinking about your other self taking over you? Haseul DID NOT finish her solo. BIRD HASEUL sang the LAST LINE. For someone that is supposed to be defeated she acts strangely. She is literally smirking! Now think about the ending of Let me in "The girl is boy's wish" How does The Carol starts? "Is it you baby? The little wish I've been dreaming, only if you will be with me..." As if she's asking "Is it really you Haseul?" In favourite they hold Haseul the way that it seems like she's trapped and breaking free. Is it a coincidence that Haseul cut her hair short in butterfly? I think not. Yeojin is always seen around Haseul. Haseul is constantly around her and watching her. Even in the begging of Kiss later you can hear birds. What if Haseul does not want Yeojin to be found? What if she is luring her deeper into the forest? She's always leading Yeojin somewhere. At the end of the day if Yeojin misbehave she can replace her as well. In why not Yeojin has the short hair tho... 9. The Carol Some people say that the Haseul from The Carol is the same Haseul as the Haseul from Heart attack but she's not and here is proof: In The Carol MV Haseul was waiting for Heejin and Hyunjin at quarter to 4 in the afternoon. In Heart Attack Chuu was outside the room where Yves was around 9:30 in the evening. At the moment Haseul woke up Chuu we can hear bells which suggests that it's midnight and Haseul was with 2jin untill the end of the Carol so it's impossible for her to be at both places at the same time. She couldn't help Chuu while she was waiting for 2jin cause she didn't had the presents yet and Haseul from Heart attack had them. She couldn't help her after the carol neither cause presents are already opened. Haseul from The Carol has different shoes, different presents and she carries a purse that Haseul from Heart attack doesn't have. So the only possibility is that Haseul already knew Chuu was asleep and that she has to wake her up and that that wasn't a coincidence. Isn't the Haseul's smirk at the end of Heart Attack kinda suspicious? Now how could she know? Well who is related to to other Haseul? Yves. So she knows Chuu because of Yves and that means the other Haseul is in heart attack and possibly in carol. The carol starts with dark red logo. A figure pretty similar to other Haseul appeared in teaser for yyxy at the place Olivia dances in Egoist. Real Haseul doesn't have a power to travel. Anyways guess who appeared in Egoist? Yves. 10. teasers In LOONA's X1X teaser there's a sound of a heartbeat in the background and it stopped when Haseul appeared. The beeping sound of the ECG machine in 12:00 teaser starts getting faster when the location "Reykjavik" appeared which is in Haseul's location, Iceland. After that we heard a long beeping sound that means someone died. That's cause the real Haseul is dead. That's the reason why Gowon went back in time to stop Haseul from meeting the other Haseul. She isn't supposed to shot her, she's supposed to get away from fake Hasuel as far as she can so she doesn't take her place. Now everyone say thank you Gowon for saving Haseul. ----------🌙----------
wow !!! this is really well thought out. our theories differ a lot but theres so much here that makes me think. i didnt realize how similar heart attack and let me in are lyrically. i think your whole take on haseul in general is really interesting. i didnt think about how connected she is to both kim lip AND choerry ... it makes me think that since she has such an influence from OEC that she has a much more important part of the story than i thought. i also will have to spend some time making sense of the carol haseul being different from heart attack haseul hehe. this is such a cool theory theres so much i wouldnt have thought of thank you for sharing !!!!
@@fairypinch9580 you're welcome! The Loonaverse is actually so diverse that one thing or the other makes sense even if you keep changing your point of view. Like I made this theory a couple of weeks ago. But now after watching your video again new doors have opened for me. I think I'll keep my theory but I think I'll also try to make another one but this time with knowledge form your theory as well! Looks like the mysteries of the Loonaverse would never be solved 😂 but that's what make it so interesting! Once you're in you cannot come out❤️
But it isn't weird how at the end of Heart Attack, Chuu doesn't seem to realize that Haseul is there? Chuu kinda of turns around but it looks like she doesn't see anyone.
@@Victormattiuzzi maybe it was because she wasn't mature enough to leave Eden ? Symbolised by her green apple 🍏 instead of ther red apple 🍎 that Yves had? Maybe? Idk
@@Victormattiuzzi Maybe its a dead Haseul/Haseul from timeline A. My theory lies more in Let Me In being a "B" scenario to "High Hi", where the members are shown to unite. Rather than that happening, Yeojin is lost, leading to Let Me In and Haseul striking herself down in her search of her. It helps reconcile the storyline from Butterfly teasers onwards for me, and the spell to resurrect Haseul/reverse her actions that starts from So What to New Moon.
I like this a lot but it also lowkey conflicts with another theory I really like. That Yeojin and GoWon mirror each other in someway. I can’t exactly remember the theory, and I think it was initially a twinfish theory. But Yeojin and GoWon have some similarities. Their placements in their subunits; it’s confirmed that Yeojin is the ‘/‘ in 1/3 and GoWon being the ‘x’ in yyxy. Their shapes also diverge from the others; Yeojin’s shape being a parallelogram and GoWon’s being the upside down triangle. And lastly the royalty/princesses themes of their music videos. Like I mentioned, I can’t remember the exact theory, but I think it went a little like that. This subunit theory also messes with my theory that Hyunjin and Cheorry are each other’s mirrors but yeah. But I also can’t deny that this one makes sense
great vid! its so fun to STILL learn and realize things about the loonaverse, I wish the lore was as prominent as it used to be but its thanks to creators like you we still enjoy it!
There’s more than just the cat 🐈⬛ on one and only’s video relation…. Remember that Go Won was the one that made the bracelet 📿 and later gave it to HyunJin’s cat 🐈 to give it to her…
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this video is so good omg it needs so many more views?? i was watching and shocked when i saw only 5k views wow.
ik this video might be outdated now 😭 but 2:38 the unreleased see saw mv links to around you with gowon delivering a bracelet to hyunjin via a cat
It was well known both groups mirror each other. But this video portrayed that theory well!
Ok I have been replaying this for a while now and I cannot deny that this probably one of the best theory I have seen recently . Honestly the points that you pointed out literally gave me chills. Thanks you so much for this theory ❤️❤️❤️
out of all of the loonaverse vids ive watched in the last four years this one has got to be the best
Your channel is true definition of quality > quality
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quality over quality?...😭😭
EYO NEW FAIRYPINCH VIDEO JUST DROPPED!!!! ‼️‼️‼️‼️
whoa this gagged me for real like most "reverse debut" sort of yyxy-1/3 theories don't do it for me but you explained it really well... a scale with oec as the fulcrum thats amazing
This is just a Theory that I made. I think it has some contact with your video especially the connection between HaSeul and choerry. Let me know what you think I'll paste my theory right here:-
CONECTION BETWEEN HASEUL🕊️, CHUU🐧, KIM LIP🦉 AND CHOERRY🦇.
1. Heart attack
So before I go any further I need to explain what do I think happened in heart attack.
We know heart attack happened on the earth cause it doesn't have borders and only pre-debut videos that happened on the Earth don't have borders. Because of that it's logical that Chuu sinned before Heart attack and then she was exiled to the earth. So I think she sinned, went to the earth, fell asleep and had a dream about her and Yves and then Haseul waked her up. So technically Yves wasn't there, but she was a part of Chuu's imagination. I'll still refer to her as Yves and not Chuu's imagination cause it's easier.
Btw stuff that happened on Earth don't have borders cause they're the most realistic and similar to the real world. You can see Chuu made borders herself couple of times throughout the video (window, her hands, opening present etc.) That's cause the thing that separates her from real world is her imagination.
2. Bird Haseul
In one of my previous comment I mentioned what I think about the hair colours in the Loonaverse, but I'm gonna summarize it here.
The lighter hair you have the more knowledgeable you are. You get knowledge by either being picked by Yves's claw machine or eating a forbidden fruit. Gowon had dark hair untill she got crowned by Yves, Vivi had blonde hair when she was with Yves but after she lost her memories her hair got darker etc. Anyways some members like Hyunjin and Olivia have knowledge but they don't have light hair cause they have their own understanding of the Loonaverse and don't listen to Yves.
Bird Haseul is knowledgeable Haseul. At the begging of her MV we see dark red logo cause Yves was right there. Also Haseul's feather outfit is very similar to Yves's swan outfit. I still don't think that's actually Yves, I think Yves is only showing Haseul how would it be like if she had knowledge.
3. Conection between Haseul and Chuu
First of all Yves is absent in both MVs even if she's just a part of Chuu's imagination and even if it's not an actual Yves.
The scene where Yves shots Chuu looks identical to scene where Haseul is shooting her other self. Btw the confetti around Chuu when she got shot look like feathers of the other Haseul when she got shot.
Both of them are sure meeting Yves is a destiny.
HA: "Surly you're my destiny "
LMI: "It can't be a coincidence"
Chuu loves Yves so much that she is trying to be like her.
LMI:"The moon rises and I eventually become you" "Getting more like you, getting used to you, solely your girl"
There's also a scene where Chuu is outside of the window. She could tell Yves "Let me in"
LMI: "Inside my quiet heart, a place that's deep and dark, you barged in"
HA: "The day we first met, inside my quiet heart, you attack my heart"
LMI: "My heart gets coloured with you"
HA: "Dipped you inside my white heart and made it red"
Also Haseul said "you can't rush" and Chuu wants things to happen quickly "accelerate particularly, move" They are opposites. Vibe of the songs is different as well.
4. Haseul and Choerry
There are less things about them but first watch this comparison video:
t.co/y3K3NxIQ3C?amp=1
I won't be talking about everything you've seen.
Haseul pick up diamonds and Choerry was seen wearing diamond earrings.
Choerry is in the nest in love cherry motion. That seemed a bit weird but now it makes sense.
LMI: "It can't be a coincidence, It can't be rushed. The sweet whispering in my ear"
LCM: "Our story started so suddenly. Even my ears start to tickle"
5. Let me in as a loop
Yves is trying to get Haseul to accept other Haseul, but she can't cause she's stuck in the loop. She drops diamonds cause the next day she'll pick them up again. It always ends with Haseul shooting her other self.
6. Kim Lip and Haseul
The setting of a Let me in is in Iceland, filled with snow and it shows a wrecked plane. That's a reflection of Haseul's heart "It may go cold again but defrost my heart"
LMI: ”The wind blows deep into my heart picking at the flower petals melt my heart That might get cold again”
SCL Kimberly's lyrics: "Frozen hearts wake up one by one"
Does that means Kim Kip was the one to defrost Haseul's heart?
Colours lyrics, Kim Lip and Haseul together: "Redly, hotly Could it be that my heart is acting like this? Is this called love?”
Kim Lip and Haseul are mirrors of eachother cause they're opposites in colour spectrum like Choerry and Hyunjin. That reflects their solos. Kim Lip can't fall sleep and Haseul wants to be awaken. Kim Lip is seen shooting her other self in Girls front same like Haseul.
In 2 Kim Lip's teaser photos she was standing in the same pose as Haseul in 2 other teasers. Too bad I can't share those photos here, but they look so similar :(
Haseul made a same hand gesture in EILY as Kim Lip in Eclipse.
7. Frozen by yyxy
This one is short but producer of frozen said this about the song: "In places like ice-filled Iceland, a little girl sings alone with a weak voice... some kind of a song of Ice and Fire."
8. Something is off with Haseul
In high hi all girls are seen running, but not Haseul. In Rain 51bd you can hear all songs but not Let me in. In group pictures Haseul is always seen watching in the other direction then everyone else.
Perhaps Haseul never killed her other self. Isn't it creepy thinking about your other self taking over you? Haseul DID NOT finish her solo. BIRD HASEUL sang the LAST LINE. For someone that is supposed to be defeated she acts strangely. She is literally smirking!
Now think about the ending of Let me in "The girl is boy's wish"
How does The Carol starts? "Is it you baby? The little wish I've been dreaming, only if you will be with me..." As if she's asking "Is it really you Haseul?"
In favourite they hold Haseul the way that it seems like she's trapped and breaking free.
Is it a coincidence that Haseul cut her hair short in butterfly? I think not. Yeojin is always seen around Haseul. Haseul is constantly around her and watching her. Even in the begging of Kiss later you can hear birds. What if Haseul does not want Yeojin to be found? What if she is luring her deeper into the forest? She's always leading Yeojin somewhere. At the end of the day if Yeojin misbehave she can replace her as well. In why not Yeojin has the short hair tho...
9. The Carol
Some people say that the Haseul from The Carol is the same Haseul as the Haseul from Heart attack but she's not and here is proof:
In The Carol MV Haseul was waiting for Heejin and Hyunjin at quarter to 4 in the afternoon. In Heart Attack Chuu was outside the room where Yves was around 9:30 in the evening.
At the moment Haseul woke up Chuu we can hear bells which suggests that it's midnight and Haseul was with 2jin untill the end of the Carol so it's impossible for her to be at both places at the same time. She couldn't help Chuu while she was waiting for 2jin cause she didn't had the presents yet and Haseul from Heart attack had them. She couldn't help her after the carol neither cause presents are already opened. Haseul from The Carol has different shoes, different presents and she carries a purse that Haseul from Heart attack doesn't have.
So the only possibility is that Haseul already knew Chuu was asleep and that she has to wake her up and that that wasn't a coincidence. Isn't the Haseul's smirk at the end of Heart Attack kinda suspicious?
Now how could she know? Well who is related to to other Haseul? Yves. So she knows Chuu because of Yves and that means the other Haseul is in heart attack and possibly in carol. The carol starts with dark red logo.
A figure pretty similar to other Haseul appeared in teaser for yyxy at the place Olivia dances in Egoist. Real Haseul doesn't have a power to travel. Anyways guess who appeared in Egoist? Yves.
10. teasers
In LOONA's X1X teaser there's a sound of a heartbeat in the background and it stopped when Haseul appeared. The beeping sound of the ECG machine in 12:00 teaser starts getting faster when the location "Reykjavik" appeared which is in Haseul's location, Iceland. After that we heard a long beeping sound that means someone died. That's cause the real Haseul is dead.
That's the reason why Gowon went back in time to stop Haseul from meeting the other Haseul. She isn't supposed to shot her, she's supposed to get away from fake Hasuel as far as she can so she doesn't take her place. Now everyone say thank you Gowon for saving Haseul.
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wow !!! this is really well thought out. our theories differ a lot but theres so much here that makes me think. i didnt realize how similar heart attack and let me in are lyrically. i think your whole take on haseul in general is really interesting. i didnt think about how connected she is to both kim lip AND choerry ... it makes me think that since she has such an influence from OEC that she has a much more important part of the story than i thought. i also will have to spend some time making sense of the carol haseul being different from heart attack haseul hehe. this is such a cool theory theres so much i wouldnt have thought of thank you for sharing !!!!
@@fairypinch9580 you're welcome! The Loonaverse is actually so diverse that one thing or the other makes sense even if you keep changing your point of view. Like I made this theory a couple of weeks ago. But now after watching your video again new doors have opened for me. I think I'll keep my theory but I think I'll also try to make another one but this time with knowledge form your theory as well! Looks like the mysteries of the Loonaverse would never be solved 😂 but that's what make it so interesting! Once you're in you cannot come out❤️
But it isn't weird how at the end of Heart Attack, Chuu doesn't seem to realize that Haseul is there? Chuu kinda of turns around but it looks like she doesn't see anyone.
@@Victormattiuzzi maybe it was because she wasn't mature enough to leave Eden ? Symbolised by her green apple 🍏 instead of ther red apple 🍎 that Yves had? Maybe? Idk
@@Victormattiuzzi Maybe its a dead Haseul/Haseul from timeline A. My theory lies more in Let Me In being a "B" scenario to "High Hi", where the members are shown to unite. Rather than that happening, Yeojin is lost, leading to Let Me In and Haseul striking herself down in her search of her. It helps reconcile the storyline from Butterfly teasers onwards for me, and the spell to resurrect Haseul/reverse her actions that starts from So What to New Moon.
THIS VID IS SOOO GOOD WOW
I like this a lot but it also lowkey conflicts with another theory I really like. That Yeojin and GoWon mirror each other in someway. I can’t exactly remember the theory, and I think it was initially a twinfish theory. But Yeojin and GoWon have some similarities. Their placements in their subunits; it’s confirmed that Yeojin is the ‘/‘ in 1/3 and GoWon being the ‘x’ in yyxy. Their shapes also diverge from the others; Yeojin’s shape being a parallelogram and GoWon’s being the upside down triangle. And lastly the royalty/princesses themes of their music videos. Like I mentioned, I can’t remember the exact theory, but I think it went a little like that. This subunit theory also messes with my theory that Hyunjin and Cheorry are each other’s mirrors but yeah. But I also can’t deny that this one makes sense
your theories are incredible
great vid! its so fun to STILL learn and realize things about the loonaverse, I wish the lore was as prominent as it used to be but its thanks to creators like you we still enjoy it!
i love this theory so much!!! all of your theories are just so good I'm obsessed 😫❤️
Thanks for the video it was beautiful ❤️
i have been binge watching your videos today THEY ALL MAKE SO MUCH SENSE THANK YOU
tysm for the in depth and high-quality video :D i always enjoy your theories in particular!
i love this so much, all your videos are so amazing!
In love with this.
watching your videos makes me want to make my own theory video hmm…
love ur vids
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There’s more than just the cat 🐈⬛ on one and only’s video relation…. Remember that Go Won was the one that made the bracelet 📿 and later gave it to HyunJin’s cat 🐈 to give it to her…
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