It's more a case of an officer looking after his men, he can't bring himself to give an order that could mean certain death outside of combat given the information at hand, whilst simultaneously leading by example, that he is willing to go into the unknown to take a simple measurement shows the men beneath him that he is willing to do what they must now do and that if needed, he will do so again and again, I've read accounts of officers who have lived the rest of their lives carrying the weight of the men they lost, leaving them somewhat depressed and bitter in later life, long after the events that took the lives of their boys. This stems from Sun Tzu's "Regard your soldiers as your children, And they will follow you into the deepest battles, Look upon them as your own beloved sons, And they will stand by you, even until death" If the men feel as if you do not care for them, they may turn upon you as exemplified by the actions of Easy Company's 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne , NCO's just before the Invasion of Europe in that they informed their Regimental Commander about their unwillingness to Serve under Cpt Herbert Sobel due to his vindictive and uncaring nature, what amounted to an act of Mutiny and carried with it penalty of Death by firing Squad as depicted somewhat inaccurately in Band of Brothers, certain elements were omitted to give a generalisation regarding the incident.
The reactor hall itself supposedly had 30k. In the time it would take you to realize how colossally screwed you are if you were to go there, the radiation you'd absorb would already be enough to kill you hundreds of times over, and likely thousands by the time you escape the worst of the affected areas.
Radiation decreases exponentially as distance increases, so if the dosimeter was getting 15,000 from (I'm guessing here) 10 - 20m... yeah the real number at the core would be in the 40,000 - 50,000 range, easy.
@@patrickmcguinness1410 No it doesn't decrease exponentially... Do you know what exponential means? It decreases proportionally to the distance to the source squared. That is not exponential change. People in general often have no clue what exponential really means and throws around that word way too much.
At least according to Legasov's tapes, he was with Pikalov when they went to measure the radiation. They used an APC instead of a truck to be maximally protected from the radiation.
@@Debbiebabe69 Yeah the first two episodes are built like a detective story for drama and to explain to the audience the basic concepts. But in reality they knew that it had exploded and that the core was exposed. They used helicopters to measure the isotopes to determine what kind of reactions were going on. I think they needed a precise measurement of the radiation level for some reason and used a radiation shielded armoured vehicle for this. The tapes are an interesting read, if you are curious. Although technical and methodical at times they really give a view to the kind of man Legasov was, a professional who wanted to understand the accident and make sure it would not happen again.
@@bencejuhasz6459 Good point. I assumed a BRDM-2 is an APC. Also I did not mean to disparage the show, I thought it was an interesting detail, that they used a heavier vehicle that has some radiation protection built in. Sometimes the change is justifiable for the drama, and there is no requirement to be 100% accurate.
@@psevdhome Usually,you find BRDM-2s in one of these three: No 1:Still in military service/reserve. No 2:Museum/private collections. No 3:Property of an organization/company/private owner. The last one is the rarest, because of No 1. Also,if you ever seen a BRDM-2 up close and personal, all buttoned up,you are going to notice that it is quite hard to look out. They have better visibility from inside than a tank,but still pretty bad compared to a truck. This is probably the other reason why they chose to use a truck instead of the patrol vehicle.The driver can actually see outside what's going on, since this was a TV set for a show, not just empty roads. If you want to see a BRDM-2, here is one(no music): th-cam.com/video/ugs-YUzQD98/w-d-xo.html
With that much radiation you're not going to have a toast to spread it on. More like a toxic radioactive flaming pile of carbs with enough nuclear material embedded in it from the fallout to give you 3 hands, 80 fingers and a 2nd head if you ate it.
-Oh? You're approaching me? Instead of running away you're coming right to me? -I can't get the actual roentgen number without getting closer. -Hoho! Then come as close as you like!
I can pictured in my mind that even at this point Legasov was hoping that His assumptions and prediction were wrong. And was hoping he was the one at fault.. being denial that the problem didn't exist at all.. while witnessing the smoke contains radiation and lit His cigar. "Please let be this is only a bad dream"
The fact that the general went himself to measure it and wouldn't let anyone else go speaks volumes about the man
It's more a case of an officer looking after his men, he can't bring himself to give an order that could mean certain death outside of combat given the information at hand, whilst simultaneously leading by example, that he is willing to go into the unknown to take a simple measurement shows the men beneath him that he is willing to do what they must now do and that if needed, he will do so again and again, I've read accounts of officers who have lived the rest of their lives carrying the weight of the men they lost, leaving them somewhat depressed and bitter in later life, long after the events that took the lives of their boys.
This stems from Sun Tzu's
"Regard your soldiers as your children, And they will follow you into the deepest battles, Look upon them as your own beloved sons, And they will stand by you, even until death"
If the men feel as if you do not care for them, they may turn upon you as exemplified by the actions of Easy Company's 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne , NCO's just before the Invasion of Europe in that they informed their Regimental Commander about their unwillingness to Serve under Cpt Herbert Sobel due to his vindictive and uncaring nature, what amounted to an act of Mutiny and carried with it penalty of Death by firing Squad as depicted somewhat inaccurately in Band of Brothers, certain elements were omitted to give a generalisation regarding the incident.
He actually went to measure that himself because none would question the authority of general no matter the read.
Would you expect anything less from a dude who survived Kursk and Stalingrad?
@@Rybo-Senpai that's the point I was trying to make
I would stand with him at the gates of hell if he asked
The worst part was, that’s not even the highest it was. 15k was just the highest they could read. The real number was actually much higher.
The reactor hall itself supposedly had 30k. In the time it would take you to realize how colossally screwed you are if you were to go there, the radiation you'd absorb would already be enough to kill you hundreds of times over, and likely thousands by the time you escape the worst of the affected areas.
@@FordGTmaniac the reactor vesicle it self exactly after the accident could have been 30k-50k
Radiation decreases exponentially as distance increases, so if the dosimeter was getting 15,000 from (I'm guessing here) 10 - 20m... yeah the real number at the core would be in the 40,000 - 50,000 range, easy.
they gave us the number they had
@@patrickmcguinness1410 No it doesn't decrease exponentially... Do you know what exponential means?
It decreases proportionally to the distance to the source squared. That is not exponential change.
People in general often have no clue what exponential really means and throws around that word way too much.
...another faulty meter.. why is he wasting our time?
Underrated comment
@@Ben-kr5cx
Agreed.
Seal off the city. Cut off the disinformation. Comrades, we will be applauded.
Like seriously. What are the fucking odds that two separate meters are faulty!? 🤦♂️
Moscow sending crappy equipment again
‘Can you tell me how many roentgens was there around the reactor?’
‘Idk, do you remember how many bread you have eaten in your life?’
Hahahaha 😆
It's not three breads; it's fifteen thousand.
@@hoon_sol That's a lot of carbs.
DYATLOOOOOOOOOOV!
@@hoon_sol What does that number mean? ¦: |
At least according to Legasov's tapes, he was with Pikalov when they went to measure the radiation. They used an APC instead of a truck to be maximally protected from the radiation.
So they must have had some idea they were expecting to come face to face with a bit more than 3.6 roentgen.........
@@Debbiebabe69 Yeah the first two episodes are built like a detective story for drama and to explain to the audience the basic concepts. But in reality they knew that it had exploded and that the core was exposed. They used helicopters to measure the isotopes to determine what kind of reactions were going on. I think they needed a precise measurement of the radiation level for some reason and used a radiation shielded armoured vehicle for this.
The tapes are an interesting read, if you are curious. Although technical and methodical at times they really give a view to the kind of man Legasov was, a professional who wanted to understand the accident and make sure it would not happen again.
The showrunners probably couldn't get their hands on a running BRDM-2, which is not an APC, but an armoured reconnaisance and patrol vehicle.
@@bencejuhasz6459 Good point. I assumed a BRDM-2 is an APC. Also I did not mean to disparage the show, I thought it was an interesting detail, that they used a heavier vehicle that has some radiation protection built in. Sometimes the change is justifiable for the drama, and there is no requirement to be 100% accurate.
@@psevdhome Usually,you find BRDM-2s in one of these three:
No 1:Still in military service/reserve.
No 2:Museum/private collections.
No 3:Property of an organization/company/private owner.
The last one is the rarest, because of No 1.
Also,if you ever seen a BRDM-2 up close and personal, all buttoned up,you are going to notice that it is quite hard to look out. They have better visibility from inside than a tank,but still pretty bad compared to a truck. This is probably the other reason why they chose to use a truck instead of the patrol vehicle.The driver can actually see outside what's going on, since this was a TV set for a show, not just empty roads.
If you want to see a BRDM-2, here is one(no music):
th-cam.com/video/ugs-YUzQD98/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant series.
That amount of roentgen is thick enough to spread on toast.
I wouldn’t know. I was in the toilet.
Underrated comment 👏
With that much radiation you're not going to have a toast to spread it on. More like a toxic radioactive flaming pile of carbs with enough nuclear material embedded in it from the fallout to give you 3 hands, 80 fingers and a 2nd head if you ate it.
Dyatlov: *gets shot*
Also Dyatlov: there is no blood caused by a bullet wound that I'M NOT SEEING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE!
Then he brought himself to the infirmary
@@samgyeopsal569 because he’s delusional
I REJECT MY GRAPHITE, COMRADE LEGASOV.
The captions!!!! "It's not Sri Lankan it's 15000" 😆
I gotta say... this is pretty accurate to their reactions
And mine
Boron: ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
Reactor 4: MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
-Oh? You're approaching me? Instead of running away you're coming right to me?
-I can't get the actual roentgen number without getting closer.
-Hoho! Then come as close as you like!
Chernobyl in a nutshell
What's wrong with you? How do you get that number from feedwater leaking from a blown tank?
You don't...
"Then what the f@$# are you talking about..?"
I... *ahem*
You didn't see graphite!
I-I did.
Should've put that sign when the 2 dumb administrators are on the frame
Bryukhanov and Fomin: o_o
It was dyatlov
15,000 Roentgen... Not great, not terrible.
Not great not terrible.
Killer Queen has already touched the reactor...
Plot twist, Dyatlov is that universes Dio but spelled DYO lol
Dyatlov : 3.6 RO ... Not Great, But not Terrible either
1 hour later....
Dyatlov: 15,000 Ro Not great, But Incredible terrible....
Contaminated by the graphite, I've seen worse.
@@Zvenygora There was no graphite. You did not see graphite.
@@Debbiebabe69 U DIDN'T
Love how he the despise with which he looks at Bryukhanov & Fomin vefore breaking the news.
comrade dyatlov is still in Chernobyl's toilet
This made me so happy! Thank you! I wasn't expecting that!
Nobody:
CC: It's not sri lankan, it's 15,000
THEN I SHALL #DOIT MYSELF.
That man makes walking around with steel balls look so easy
15,000...not great, not terrible
I'm told its the equivalent of a chest x-ray.
@@Brad84L In the sun
I can pictured in my mind that even at this point Legasov was hoping that His assumptions and prediction were wrong. And was hoping he was the one at fault.. being denial that the problem didn't exist at all.. while witnessing the smoke contains radiation and lit His cigar.
"Please let be this is only a bad dream"
GetLocalPartyHeadquartered
- ”…15 000.”
-”Well that’s not great, but it’s not horrifying.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
15000 roentgen.
Pripyat: NIGERUNDAYOOOOOO
You didn't see the reactor. You didn't, because it's not there!
“Not great, but not terrible”
Lol, JoJo and Chernobyl
Literally shut up please
@@camnotary4349 that’s... that’s what the music is from
Freakincident no, it’s from a song called Roundabout by a band called Yes, released long before JoJo was ever even a thing...
@@Imperium56 okay. It’s still IN Jojo though
@@Freakincident Fuck Jojo nigga!
Should have brought in a conveyor system and dumped 100 tons of sand/stuff on top of core. Done it in 2 days. Bet the coal miners could have found one
Hmmm i think nothing good happends when you are sent to the Local Party HQ
Surprisingly, they return to work not long after, by not long after, i mean few years.
Not great, not terrible….
Not great, not terrible
15 000 , not great, it's terrible
The difference between 3.6 and 15000 is marginal. xD
Its not Sri Lankan its 15000.
Lol
It actually made me laugh 😂
Oh_Fuck.mp4
it's not sri lankan
"It's not three roentgen, This is 15,000."
"..."
".."
To Be Continuted.
Too soon
Yareyareda ze...
Not great, but terrible.
Nigga say whaaat?
The edit and the music are so stupid and inappropriate for this sceen…
Your Farts Don't Stink! They Always Smell Like the Fresh Morning Sun! -🇺🇲😎
Well, thank GOD it's not Sri Lankan.....