I don't remember watching these races live, but I pulled up the 1998 race on TH-cam for me and my granddad to watch only a day or two before he passed away, so I guess that will be the memory I'll always associate with this event.
petitioning for the GRC Fort Lauderdale circuit from 2015 which had about three corners, one of which was coated in beach sand, and where the joker lap was a single tyre bundle.....
Thanks for doing this one! Home town event for me! I've been to every one and loved every single minute of it; including getting soaked to the core in the rain for the inagural event.
I worked as a corner marshal at this race one year, I think 2001. I remember hearing a call about a “conflagration” in the pits between two team mates, both driving green cars. One was from Canada and the other from Scotland.
As a requeseter of this track, thank you so much!!! Although I would like a pt. 2 of the 2012/13 indy circuit around the astrodome that ended Franchitti's career
3:49. I feel like it’s worth noting that, although English is indeed the primary language of the United States, there is a large subsection of Spanish speakers in Texas, due in no small part to their proximity to Mexico (i.e. they are literally right next to each other). And since I’m talking about Texan linguistics, you might find it interesting to know that the third most spoken language in Texas is Vietnamese.
Could you talk about the Kuala Lumpur street circuit. V8 Supercars drove there with 5 cars for a demo event in 2015, with plans to host a round there from 2016 onwards. Looked like a good track. A shame really.
hi men, is nice series, maybe in futures videos can donother video of buenos aires street track but tc2000, also in Rosario, Santa Fe host 2 races there at NIGHT......cheers mate
Your videos are very interesting and they made me discover a good number of racetracks that I had never heard of before. One you should do, in my opinion, is the Circuit International Automobile Moulay El Hassan in Marrakech, the first layout of this track was quite epic 😏
I do remember watching this track on TV when I was a child, and actually thinking that the track actually "split" in two, and that drivers could choose which of the paths to take every lap.
Would it be possible to add a little graphic of the track map in the corner? You could highlight which corner you're talking about as you go. That would be really helpful to visualize the tracks.
This track shows up in ChampCarChallenge, which simulates the 00-04 CART/CCWS series, and was a blast to drie in that sim, it was stupidly fun for some reason. Also the track's arial shots always looked somewhat wild, especially pit exit and the T1-3 setup
Maybe for a future episode you could talk about TC2000's Santa Fe Street Circuit (Argentina), although that event took place in different layouts (mostly in the same area tho) and finding info in english about that track could be difficult (here is a video with all of the track layouts: th-cam.com/video/y-TkJ66K7Yc/w-d-xo.html ) Btw, as a native spanish-speaker, your pronunciation of "Avenida de las Americas" was excellent lol
Wait they ran in 01? What? I thought 2000 was the last one for some reason. Oh and, does the 50s Havana track count? Fatal accidents,political machianations, Fangio being kidnapped and treated well by Castro, the wild layout and the 50s racing. Not sure if it hits all the the boxces for this series I don't remember if you covered the street oval that was the Meadowlands last hurrah, oval rules on a street course, and no 90 degree corners to boot... EDIT: Oh and, btw since I saw the Birmingham superprix show up in comments, it was made for Race 07/GTR2 and is a blast in both games. flying down the Middleway in a high end race car is stupid amounts of virtual fun. Tourin cars actualy, at least for the virtual course, work really well there. F3000 in Race 07 an Radicals are super super fun, Caterhams too. Try drifting a virtual Caterham aroun the track in the rain while holding off a pack of AI. Is super fun
One of the most successful street circuits ever and still ongoing? Not really as much of a failure as there short lasted circuits discussed thus far in the series.
In the defense of Martinsville: It used to be a great track for racing, until NASCAR introduced cars with tires that are way too thick and put an extra gear in the transmission.
I believe what makes racing in Martinsville rather bland with the new cars is due to the brakes. It's not that the brakes are bad, but it's actually good that it kinda diminish the chance of using your opponent's rear bumper as brakes in the track (though I don't think an international war criminal with the name that rhymes with "Witty Stank Howe's junior" gets that memo). NASCAR has made changes to make racing with the short track package a bit better this year (and in some cases it does like in Loudon), like removing the diffuser and chopping off the spoiler in half, but the brakes remain as powerful as it is. Also tbf there are no other short tracks in the calendar similar to Martinsville so it's going to cost more if they want to introduce an even more specific package for just one track. My solution probably gonna be a bit too dangerous in terms of safety, but if you cannot change the brakes, _why not make it weaker by limiting the brake cooling just a little bit?_ Sure the brake issues at Gateway was rather concerning but the track has higher avg speed than Martinsville, so in theory it could probably work as the drivers must manage their throttle and brake input more.
@@DannyPlaysStuff The easiest solution would be to reduce the tire width (less grip) and remove the extra gear (slower acceleration). I especially want thinner tires on all tracks - they've been made so thick that the cars are too easy to handle. (They also need to ditch low-profile tires so they can reintroduce the innerliner. It would prevent a car from being completely crippled by a flat tire.)
Yeah I forgot to factor the engine braking, but tbh they got no choice on the gearbox because 4-speed box is simply not desirable for Cup manufacturers anymore, especially when the plans for hybrid system implementation has been talked about for half a decade now. Same case with the wider tires, more or less.
It's interesting because while the layout was uninspiring, the long back straight and wide-ish track meant it was a good racing track. Add a little rain like in 1998 and you have utter chaos.
Houston has that itch for street tracks it seems. Or more so... CART/IndyCar has an itch for Houston. It's definitely a weird track even if it's just a bunch of blocks. Suggestion: Del Mar Fairgrounds, ran with IMSA from 1987 to 1992(and 1958 to 1964, but I don't think much if any footage exists).
I'm sure your points were good but I got lost just admiring how goddamn awesome 90s/early 2000s champcars looked. Before Tony George ruined everything, INDY/CART had almost everything it takes to be nearly a perfect motorsport series. Great looking cars, brilliant racing, diverse tracks between short ovals superspeedways, road courses and street tracks, etc There was zero things wrong with it apart from the fact someone wasn't allowed to be in charge of it, and for that stroke of petulence, it was all lost in a heartbeat
It’s not been used since 1968 but I’d like to see the Longford circuit from Tasmania, Australia. There’s decent footage from it considering how long ago it was last used and it was a wild old track featuring a one mile long straight as well as twice crossing a river on narrow bridges
While not a track that was actually raced on, I’d love for you to tell the story of the Boston Street Race debacle. It’s quite the doozy of a story, and would fit in adjacent to much of your other content.
Could we say that the original layout of Surfers Paradise used for CART and Supercars was a failure as it never continued and CART or Indycar never returned?
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Thank you very much. :-) BTW: The links to the CART races there: 1998 -> th-cam.com/video/n1HLBxS-i5o/w-d-xo.html 1999 -> th-cam.com/video/6qIRCydT9Y0/w-d-xo.html 2000 -> th-cam.com/video/3HaXlYfOgpE/w-d-xo.html 2001 -> th-cam.com/video/qeFxm7q_IOI/w-d-xo.html
I don't remember watching these races live, but I pulled up the 1998 race on TH-cam for me and my granddad to watch only a day or two before he passed away, so I guess that will be the memory I'll always associate with this event.
Channel just popped up and already hooked.
The pit lane is like the Hong Kong street track from Gran Turismo 4 wacky, tricky and complex.
god, I hate that track, that last section after the long straight was tricky as hell
Remember when Helio's second name was called "Castro-Neves"? That was weird.
I've found out that he was born as Hélio Alves de Castro Neves, it's normal to have 2 (and more) last names for Hispanics and Portuguese/Brazilians
He only removed the hyphen to get people to stop calling him “Castro” or “Neves”
Lad has nightmares with 90 degrees left handers hunting him.. 😆😆
I love street circuits with wacky-ass pit lanes! I can't wait for the IndyCar Nashville race next year.
petitioning for the GRC Fort Lauderdale circuit from 2015 which had about three corners, one of which was coated in beach sand, and where the joker lap was a single tyre bundle.....
As you appear to already have it planned you should do the Houston street circuit (2 electric boogaloo)
Thanks for doing this one! Home town event for me! I've been to every one and loved every single minute of it; including getting soaked to the core in the rain for the inagural event.
I worked as a corner marshal at this race one year, I think 2001. I remember hearing a call about a “conflagration” in the pits between two team mates, both driving green cars. One was from Canada and the other from Scotland.
The Scottish could be Dario Franchitti, not sure about the canadian tho
@@RandomCarl05 Paul Tracy, maybe?
@@penguincampI wouldn't be surprised lol
As a requeseter of this track, thank you so much!!! Although I would like a pt. 2 of the 2012/13 indy circuit around the astrodome that ended Franchitti's career
Can you please do a video about the temporary EuroNASCAR oval in Tours, France? Or any other temporary ovals? Loving the series so far!
3:49.
I feel like it’s worth noting that, although English is indeed the primary language of the United States, there is a large subsection of Spanish speakers in Texas, due in no small part to their proximity to Mexico (i.e. they are literally right next to each other).
And since I’m talking about Texan linguistics, you might find it interesting to know that the third most spoken language in Texas is Vietnamese.
Could you talk about the Kuala Lumpur street circuit. V8 Supercars drove there with 5 cars for a demo event in 2015, with plans to host a round there from 2016 onwards. Looked like a good track. A shame really.
Was that really the only series that visited there? I thought it had a bit more action than that, but I could be remembering wrong.
there were other local support categories that weekend.@@TrolledBy
hi men, is nice series, maybe in futures videos can donother video of buenos aires street track but tc2000, also in Rosario, Santa Fe host 2 races there at NIGHT......cheers mate
Your videos are very interesting and they made me discover a good number of racetracks that I had never heard of before. One you should do, in my opinion, is the Circuit International Automobile Moulay El Hassan in Marrakech, the first layout of this track was quite epic 😏
Now that you've done Houston, you should do the other Dallas Street Circuits.
Agreed.
Your channel is amazing, mate! Cheers from Brazil!
Thanks for another video of this Street Track Failures series) I think that you have a lot of tracks in a list to do videos)
My next suggestion: Concord Pacific Place in Vancouver, technically there were two different circuits (1990-1997, 1998-2004), so maybe 2 episodes. And lot less 90° left-hander. ;-)
1990 -> th-cam.com/video/M_EmR53doRk/w-d-xo.html
1991 -> th-cam.com/video/WTap6_ye7tw/w-d-xo.html
1992 -> th-cam.com/video/0M5L9L3r_Us/w-d-xo.html
1993 -> th-cam.com/video/v9R8nIIXEXM/w-d-xo.html
1994 -> th-cam.com/video/T4RBIbV-YIQ/w-d-xo.html
1995 -> th-cam.com/video/X29b-e7aQu0/w-d-xo.html
1996 -> th-cam.com/video/wB4HyRBDGmU/w-d-xo.html
1997 -> th-cam.com/video/EJyWKz-44dA/w-d-xo.html
1998 -> th-cam.com/video/Mivm6_zNmes/w-d-xo.html
1999 -> th-cam.com/video/sVksXQJJcsw/w-d-xo.html
2000 -> th-cam.com/video/F2CbZ7QB234/w-d-xo.html
2001 -> th-cam.com/video/AxOv7QQ2v0U/w-d-xo.html
2002 -> th-cam.com/video/kTgvqr5fC5c/w-d-xo.html
2003 -> th-cam.com/video/nftVKKPmOKE/w-d-xo.html
2004 -> th-cam.com/video/ZuWI2M1EHxc/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate you dropping links for the races
Just a small correction, they switched to the second layout in ‘98 not ‘97.
@@STREET24000 corrected
I do remember watching this track on TV when I was a child, and actually thinking that the track actually "split" in two, and that drivers could choose which of the paths to take every lap.
Bilbao Circuit of WS by Renault could be a fantastic idea for the series. Very good video :D
Would it be possible to add a little graphic of the track map in the corner? You could highlight which corner you're talking about as you go. That would be really helpful to visualize the tracks.
As someone who's been down these streets before. I can say that these streets weren't made for racing. NRG Stadium was a much better choice
This track shows up in ChampCarChallenge, which simulates the 00-04 CART/CCWS series, and was a blast to drie in that sim, it was stupidly fun for some reason. Also the track's arial shots always looked somewhat wild, especially pit exit and the T1-3 setup
Maybe for a future episode you could talk about TC2000's Santa Fe Street Circuit (Argentina), although that event took place in different layouts (mostly in the same area tho) and finding info in english about that track could be difficult (here is a video with all of the track layouts: th-cam.com/video/y-TkJ66K7Yc/w-d-xo.html )
Btw, as a native spanish-speaker, your pronunciation of "Avenida de las Americas" was excellent lol
Wait they ran in 01? What? I thought 2000 was the last one for some reason.
Oh and, does the 50s Havana track count? Fatal accidents,political machianations, Fangio being kidnapped and treated well by Castro, the wild layout and the 50s racing. Not sure if it hits all the the boxces for this series
I don't remember if you covered the street oval that was the Meadowlands last hurrah, oval rules on a street course, and no 90 degree corners to boot...
EDIT: Oh and, btw since I saw the Birmingham superprix show up in comments, it was made for Race 07/GTR2 and is a blast in both games. flying down the Middleway in a high end race car is stupid amounts of virtual fun. Tourin cars actualy, at least for the virtual course, work really well there. F3000 in Race 07 an Radicals are super super fun, Caterhams too. Try drifting a virtual Caterham aroun the track in the rain while holding off a pack of AI. Is super fun
What about the Parque Fudidora in México??
It was in CART
I would like to see the old Marrakech Street track that held WTCC and F2
Seeing a young, Blond haired Dixon is such a visual whiplash for me.
my suggestion for a new street circuit you could do is the surfer's paradise street circuit in australia
One of the most successful street circuits ever and still ongoing? Not really as much of a failure as there short lasted circuits discussed thus far in the series.
I think that Hong Kong (FE) is missing in this series.
Love your videos! Have a nice day.
You should cover the 1984-86 Columbus Ohio street circuit
I thought we're talking sbout F1- oh wajt, that's Dallas :D
Well, looks like Red Bull is doing an F1 Showrun with the RB7 for the first time ever in Houston in September this year
@@PlayStation_5247 good for you then.
In the defense of Martinsville:
It used to be a great track for racing, until NASCAR introduced cars with tires that are way too thick and put an extra gear in the transmission.
I don't think he meant that Martisville produces bad racing, rather that it is very tight, narrow and slow, compared to all of the other tracks.
I believe what makes racing in Martinsville rather bland with the new cars is due to the brakes.
It's not that the brakes are bad, but it's actually good that it kinda diminish the chance of using your opponent's rear bumper as brakes in the track (though I don't think an international war criminal with the name that rhymes with "Witty Stank Howe's junior" gets that memo).
NASCAR has made changes to make racing with the short track package a bit better this year (and in some cases it does like in Loudon), like removing the diffuser and chopping off the spoiler in half, but the brakes remain as powerful as it is. Also tbf there are no other short tracks in the calendar similar to Martinsville so it's going to cost more if they want to introduce an even more specific package for just one track.
My solution probably gonna be a bit too dangerous in terms of safety, but if you cannot change the brakes, _why not make it weaker by limiting the brake cooling just a little bit?_
Sure the brake issues at Gateway was rather concerning but the track has higher avg speed than Martinsville, so in theory it could probably work as the drivers must manage their throttle and brake input more.
@@DannyPlaysStuff The easiest solution would be to reduce the tire width (less grip) and remove the extra gear (slower acceleration). I especially want thinner tires on all tracks - they've been made so thick that the cars are too easy to handle. (They also need to ditch low-profile tires so they can reintroduce the innerliner. It would prevent a car from being completely crippled by a flat tire.)
Yeah I forgot to factor the engine braking, but tbh they got no choice on the gearbox because 4-speed box is simply not desirable for Cup manufacturers anymore, especially when the plans for hybrid system implementation has been talked about for half a decade now. Same case with the wider tires, more or less.
@@DannyPlaysStuff I think the racing needs to take priority over what the manufacturers want.
The pit road was more exciting than the actual track!
It's interesting because while the layout was uninspiring, the long back straight and wide-ish track meant it was a good racing track. Add a little rain like in 1998 and you have utter chaos.
Houston has that itch for street tracks it seems. Or more so... CART/IndyCar has an itch for Houston. It's definitely a weird track even if it's just a bunch of blocks.
Suggestion: Del Mar Fairgrounds, ran with IMSA from 1987 to 1992(and 1958 to 1964, but I don't think much if any footage exists).
Not just street circuits, but bad street circuits
Native houstonian here along with native Spanish speaker here and I gotta say, you nailed the pronunciation of avenida de las Americas
I think as a suggestion you should do something closer to home…The Birmingham Superprix
Keep it up with your channel mate. You are doing really well.
Well that is an interesting choice of a pit lane layout
Now that area looks so different. I hope they bring a race back to Houston one day
0:30 Oh boy, how many "90° left-handers" are we gonna get in this one!
I'm sure your points were good but I got lost just admiring how goddamn awesome 90s/early 2000s champcars looked.
Before Tony George ruined everything, INDY/CART had almost everything it takes to be nearly a perfect motorsport series. Great looking cars, brilliant racing, diverse tracks between short ovals superspeedways, road courses and street tracks, etc
There was zero things wrong with it apart from the fact someone wasn't allowed to be in charge of it, and for that stroke of petulence, it was all lost in a heartbeat
It’s not been used since 1968 but I’d like to see the Longford circuit from Tasmania, Australia. There’s decent footage from it considering how long ago it was last used and it was a wild old track featuring a one mile long straight as well as twice crossing a river on narrow bridges
Great ROAD circuit
While not a track that was actually raced on, I’d love for you to tell the story of the Boston Street Race debacle. It’s quite the doozy of a story, and would fit in adjacent to much of your other content.
Now do a back-to-back Houston video with the Indycar circuit around what is now the NRG Stadium
What's a good Houston race to start with?
The pronunciation of Avenida de las Américas was at least 9/10 so don't worry
Can’t wait to hear about a certain corner of a certain angle, possibly multiple times… curse you, cities built in squares
This track only lasting memory will be apperaing in the Newman-Haas Ps1 game
Can you do the Cagliari street circuit?
Drinking game: Take a shot Everytime you hear “90 degree left hander”
You should do a video on the Sao Paulo street circuit that indycar raced at from 2010 to 2013
Birmingham Superprix Street Circuit would be good. You could walk the layout to show what it's like now.
Are you gonna do Del Mar?
You've gotta look at the Reliant/NRG park track in Houston
Next one is Singen (DTM)?
You should do the Vegas grand prix from 2007 when Champ car raced their.
Could we say that the original layout of Surfers Paradise used for CART and Supercars was a failure as it never continued and CART or Indycar never returned?
Thank you very much. :-)
BTW: The links to the CART races there:
1998 -> th-cam.com/video/n1HLBxS-i5o/w-d-xo.html
1999 -> th-cam.com/video/6qIRCydT9Y0/w-d-xo.html
2000 -> th-cam.com/video/3HaXlYfOgpE/w-d-xo.html
2001 -> th-cam.com/video/qeFxm7q_IOI/w-d-xo.html
isnt this the track where Paul Tracy once punched his teamboss? lmao
No problem with Avenida de las Américas Pronunciation
here again.
miami 86 to 95 :)
The Charlotte motor speedway roval
MOSCOW E-PRIX!
in another episode talk about montreal formula e circuit
One day my great (eh) city will have a race that isn't a travesty
...actually maybe not this whole city is 90 degree turns
Who thought it was a good idea to put the pit exist there
Alemannenring Singen
montreal e prix track
they sponsored pit because it was cheap, get a life