This channel is fire. Love it. Makes me proud to be a Black American. I'm from Detroit Michigan but I have to give homage and respect to those Black Americans for telling the real truth on the true origins of hip hop. Looking at this dance call Burning it seems to me that the dance call Up rock came from this. Uprocking looks similar to Burning. I grew up as a teen in the 1980s when hip hop first came into the commercial scene such as Hollywood movies and TV shows. Funny how the break dancers at that time that were show were the light skinned or admixture Puerto Ricans. Like the history states they came later. But it looks like uprocking came from Burning to me. If I'm wrong please correct me. Thank you for video taping the original legends who were there when it all started.
I'm from the Bronx and didn't realize there was a whole era of BURNIN before break dancing. See this is why it's important to tell our history ourselves and pass it on. If you don't other people tell the story for you. Excellent job from The Culture
They would have robbed you from your camera, if they didn't know you in Bronxdale back in the day. These were different times. Not many people had a videocamera early 70s. Only rich people. @@ev8318
The 2nd biggest mistake was not being the first to document this history. Gatekeeping + documentation/history keeping makes it easier to spot those who make inaccurate or false claims.
@@ec4116 oral history is how it was documented. There are also some places that have actual footage via video/audio recordings. So maybe the real issue may be from B1 having this open door policy of "come one come all" And having so many other Cultures tag along. When they have only infiltrated and stole. Other Cultures never allow outsiders (especially blacks) to enter and learn their custom. For as long as Chinese and Latins have been in the black community selling their goods and services to blacks, we still are not allowed to enter their private personal spaces for entertainment or enjoyment. Yet they do it with ours.
Im loving all this history even though im 51 and from Brooklyn and got to see the culture explode in the early 80s i wasn't on deck to witness all of the beginning and none of the bronx history thank u for this knowledge salute to the channel and blackjack Brooklyn luv
Now this was a lot more forward with the questions . Now let Ran lies approach this brother Young Black Jack and tell him he's lying about the culture not coming from us!
A1 Sasa... Put all these video in Chrono order as archival documents.. try to get the loving brothers together in a ball room and video them together if possible before they transition ✌🏾
@@ev8318 stop with your lame ass trolling, FBA/ADOS created it so if FBA/ADOS carry it on or not is FBA/ADOS business, don't have to prove to the world about break dancing, all the rest are copy cats, get a life
Black people, I see why they hate y'all. Y'all are amazing they have everything, but you have to elements, and I'm so glad they are still here to tell their story ❤
The term "Burn" is very old. Like Sasa said, it was around before he started. Before dudes started dancing against each other, guys and girls danced against each other. Girls tended to move their bodies in ways that most guys wouldn't so in most cases the guys got "burned" by the girls. I am sure that people from other cities can attest to this. Maybe they called it by another name. Breaking came after Burning when the guys started to dance against each other. The term was being used when I was very young living in Harlem in the late '60s early '70s.
Yes, different neighborhoods had their own dances. I was in 8th and 9th grade that would be in 1968, 1969. When different groups would come to the parties, each group would do their dance. I forgot about that. The Jolly Stompers they had a step they did coming through the hood. You would hear them before you saw them.
Monk and Fat Face Mike talk about the 52 Blocks. The Black Spades started that. A lot of them knew Karate. And then they started greeting each other with the "Blocks" it was a Routine.
I believe this "Burning" style that originated in the Bronx, traveled to Brooklyn and then they started calling it "Rocking". I truly believe that is the timeline. Because, per my understanding, the person called "Rubberband" who supposedly originated "Rocking", was originally from the Bronx and then went to Brooklyn.
Brake dancing wasn't really a Brooklyn thing. We were ticking and pop locking. Spinning around on the ground wasn't our thing. We didn't dirty up our close by rolling around on the floor. We had mad love for our brothers and sister who did.
@@Deinuh in a nutshell, “Rocking” is what the Puerto Rican kids in Brooklyn started calling the freestyle funk dances that they picked up from watching the Black kids from the neighborhood, along with the Funk and Soul dances on TV. After they picked it up they started calling it “Rocking”.
Rocking is the old term for uprocking. Bronx seemed to be about burns. Brooklyn had the burn and jerk. It is what I heard from severallpl interviews I watched. And forums on line (arguments between old boys and rockers is hilarious). So if I'm not correct, I will acquiesce
Truth is Mario Pauza who was a black Cuban, and who is credited with forming what later became known as Salsa lived in New York, and was a musical arranger for black American Swing Jazz muscians. It was the Swing Jazz element added to the Cuban Son which made it movible, so black American's are 50:50 responsible for Salsa.
If you think about burnt= cooked different words have replaced many previous words but basically mean the same thing basically I beat you smoked you, washed you, housed you, killed you,blazed you, rocked you you can go on and on
@bx Shit it might be because he getting healthy loosing weight is a good thing we have been taught all wrong that big belly is unhealthy and we say that from good eating nah that from unhealthy eating and laziness not wanting to work out nothing so it might be a good thing brother!
@@Black_unity597 I didn't take into account that Pete was in his late 50's in those old videos and now he is in his late 60's but yeah he could be more health conscious
One of the most known burners in the day was Willie Richardson (Black Willie). Clark Kent, Mr Freeze, Blacula, Peabody. They would embarrass the fuc out you! 😢😮 Factzzz. #ActualFactul
How old was Black Jack and Black Willie? What year were they born? Having that info helps us calculate the years they were gettin down and helps us establish a timeline!
Rock was the dance and burn was a term we rock dancers used to describe a win. Just like the term go off to describe how far we took it on any given night. We mostly danced in this underground club scene where we competed against one another. It began in 1970 and spread from there. Mario hung with us in the Footsteps and Abby then brought it to Bronxdale. It was a brother named Cutty who turned him on to this club scene. The Rock Dance was the precursor to burning, lofting, breaking, house and hip hop. Just sharing information that always gets left out of the discussion.
@ontherealreel4832... NO... The rock dance IS NOT the precursor to OUR "burnin"... not in our culture... maybe for Spanish culture but not for us...we was NOT rocking!! we knew very little about rocking... so obviously Spanish rockers copied off some of our terminology using the phrase "BURNIN" after they was rocking...and most likely the rock dance came from the SPADE DANCE... The Spade Dance is probably the precursor to the rock dance!!
@@ontherealreel4832 , Mario was also at the Plaza Tunnel where they were Burning and doing the Spade dance. Keep in mind. Before Burning, we were doing the dances that the Rock dancers borrowed from. That seems to be the point thats always missing. AA had our Funk and Freestyle dancing way before burning. Those Funk dances predate Rocking.
It doesn’t get missed Hermano because I always include those dances you just mentioned. In fact I name them by their names. The difference is that Rock was not just a dance however it grew into a genre. By 1972 it was full blown and kept evolving. I can identify with some of the things brothers in this video are sharing. It all came from this insane way we partied. Pure Insanity. We shared in all of this.
This is what Triq Daddy Trashfeed is about. He is only interviewing the depth of the FBAs but cares less of what other cultures and influences have to contribute as far as what i learned from my son history class history cannot be biased and he has not gone to any other sources apart from who he assume or know is an Foundational Black American. Therefore his facts are compromised. Plus he ignores the founding father themselves like Grand Master Flash.
@@feeva9728 we did not come late that's a bs lie. But answer this what moves the first bboys create I ask this question all the time and don't get answers
Ok Burnin became break dancing when hip hop emerged. So all these cats confirmed DJ Kool Herc as the founder of the break beats. There is one liar in the group though. The guy standing infront the red brickwall.
Charlie Rock isn't lying he saying what he knows. He's told the story of Burning back in 70-71 because they were the Baby Spades. Now the actual Spades started doing it as a greeting and it was kinda like a hand shake with these elaborate moves. Like Jack is saying, "It evolved from what they were seeing the Big Spades doing ." Now as they were the protectors and a gang, the children would do what they were doing and incorporating these Spades moves in their dance moves. Charlie Rock is a Baby Spade. After The Spades created the territory they could go anywhere and the children started the Dance Battling at first against OTHER BRONXDALE Buildings. Each building was Spray Painted with w ♠️ and then Gen1, Gen2, Gen3, Gen4, (That is the Graffiti Part) and so on. So those were the battle grounds. Others eventually got involved mostly through the Herc parties. But they were already DOING THAT. And "BBOY" stands for "BRONXDALE BOYS." After a Baby Spade would Dance and finish his moves he'd say "BRONXDAAAAAAAAAAAALE BOOOOOOOOY." And at the Herc Parties he would say "There goes those BBoys, where the BBoys at??". It's not something Herc coined it was something already in existence. But how would Herc know? Because he used to be at Mario's sets watching, listening and learning what the kids were doing and what they liked. Mario was the spearhead but I have to give mad credit to COOL DJ DEE AND TYRONE THE MIXOLOGIST. And I believe that DEE and his brother are NECK AND NECK with MARIO and they were Spades also.
Hipnhop deffo created in the south & west Bronxs the kids in Bronxdale jumping Mario's set . Herc in the community centers & house parties in the West bronx . But they only could've created hip hop by using sound system which the one thing Americans copied from Jamaicans & Trini's . Coke La Rock claimed they didn't know what Herc was trying to do . Herc was inspired by his Uncle a regular sound system dances that's where Herc witness the first & creator of electronic music the almighty King Tubbies. Herc would've watched U Roy who battled Prince Jazbo & I Roy Over the heaviest music in the world ....Dub music . Herc took that power the dub version excursion & developed the merry go round using breaks . Migrants brought their culture from the south up to Carolina then Brooklyn & Queens . King Charles another of King tubbies soldier brought his entire sound system to Queens & let the American kids takeover the two turntables . But Americans don't seem they can get enough of copying JA soundsysten yet deny it just look how many west Indian black new York and are 2 / 3rd generation of Caribbean descent they copy nearly every aspect of dancehall soundsystem especially in the boom bap era now you got black American reggae & dub sound systems , dub albums , they imitate the UK drum n base mcs the fast rapid mic chant , American rastas making dub music . But they deny & accuse everyone copying their style . Hip hop is a kids music dancehall is adults music with its roots in toasters in the 50s & 60s copying radio disc rockies & jazz scat singers they made into an mc dj culture way before Americans mcing over ska music .
Wrong. Absolutely WRONG. Look up Coxsone Dobbs interview where he tells where he got his ideas to create his sound and Studio? FBA, he, U-ROY AND Perry Lee Scratch got their influence from R&B, SOUL, JAZZ AND FUNK. PERIOD!!!!!! THAT WAS IN THE LATE 60'S. And after the R&B CRAZE died down, they created their own sound and SKA and REGGAE was born. Stop spreading misinformation. Now HERC credits U-ROY as being the one to show him music. I'm telling YOU that his Partner COXSONE DOBB got his influence from US. REGGAE came from mixing Jamaican sound over Black American Artists MUSIC. Go look it up.
@@Jokah227jish You're proper joker lol. You NYC do not have a clue about sound system .Do not talk about what you don't know. The black spades say the Bronxdale kids had ....attitude and it was reflected in the way they jumped on their adults sets punching out instead of one but two turns . FBA read and assess the REAL PIONEERS of sound system interviews and twist the truth !! I bet you didn't know Berry Gordy was inspired by Coxsone Dodd !! Also Herc the pioneer you yanks love bitching and hating wasn't Americanized he maintained his culture & accent . Herc made the best hip hop ever. He may have not created but he unified the factions and the elements. Herc was a King Tubbies soldier so was King Charles . We not interested in Americanized hip hop we just like the old time sounds, rough it up & turn it into dub . It's all about the sound system .
You couldn't mix reggae nor dance hall and call that bullshit real hip hop. Black American R&B ,Motown ,Jazz and Funk Blacks listen to not your bullshit information. Herc played Motown or Reggae on his set ? A Jamaican invented hip hop by playing Motown records and break beats a teenage kid at the time, who just came from Jamaica ? Started playing reggae or Motown calling it hip hop REALLY? Please demonstrate and make it make sense PLEASE DO SOOOOO!!!
@TheCulture..Since1971 burning comes from Rock or uprock we been doing that shit since the late 60s. you are the one eho got it wrong trying to take credit for. Uprock.... plz we started uprock and burns, and top rock is a bite from.our dance wake up dude
Are you familiar with the name Rubberband this guy and his rival Mexico use to do floor moves in 72 because I saw them dance in the 310 in 72 and both these dudes did floor moves not as advanced as today but to.me these two were some of the first break dancers
@vieshanblacksloft426...smh uprock is yours!! you can have it!! top rock is yours!! you can have that too... but burning is ours... the proof that's burning is ours... is the original brown skin b.boys at kool Herc and coke la rock parties was calling it "burning" too... but they wasn't calling it uprock or top rock or down rock...the original brown skin b.boys at Kool Herc and coke la rock parties NEVER HEARD OF UPROCK or rocking...so the original b.boy'n style came straight from burnin... Spanish gangs who was rocking probably came into contact with African American gangs who called it burnin.. so the Spanish gangs probably picked up burnin trying to compete with the African American gangs burn dancing... cuz when you look at Spanish dancstyles in the islands.. the dance styles in the islands is totally different than burning style here in the NEWYORK ..so its obvious Spanish gangs picked up burnin from African American gangs...but uprock down rock is all yours!!
@TheCulture..Since1971 burning was domd by uprockers in t he early 70s what are you talking about you guys weren't even dancing then we burn eith rock movements way b4 the b boys wow really... gbu
This channel is fire.
Love it.
Makes me proud to be a Black American.
I'm from Detroit Michigan but I have to give homage and respect to those Black Americans for telling the real truth on the true origins of hip hop.
Looking at this dance call Burning it seems to me that the dance call Up rock came from this. Uprocking looks similar to Burning. I grew up as a teen in the 1980s when hip hop first came into the commercial scene such as Hollywood movies and TV shows. Funny how the break dancers at that time that were show were the light skinned or admixture Puerto Ricans. Like the history states they came later.
But it looks like uprocking came from Burning to me. If I'm wrong please correct me.
Thank you for video taping the original legends who were there when it all started.
Thanks for your comment... I agree with you... uprock probably did come from burnin.. Salute
@@TheCulture..Starts1971 Did you ever get the opportunity to contact black Jack's sister Shirley
I'm from the Bronx and didn't realize there was a whole era of BURNIN before break dancing. See this is why it's important to tell our history ourselves and pass it on. If you don't other people tell the story for you. Excellent job from The Culture
Wheres video footage of them burning or dancing?
@@ev8318 There were no video cameras in an elementary school in the 60’s or 70’s or 80’s 90’s etc etc etc…..
@ev8318 wasn't nobody videoing playboy!
They would have robbed you from your camera, if they didn't know you in Bronxdale back in the day. These were different times. Not many people had a videocamera early 70s. Only rich people. @@ev8318
Yes it’s a shame we had not the exposure it needed to reveal
The BIGGEST MISTAKE FOR B1. .NOT GATEKEEPING. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
PREACH 💯 💯 💯
The 2nd biggest mistake was not being the first to document this history. Gatekeeping + documentation/history keeping makes it easier to spot those who make inaccurate or false claims.
@@ec4116 oral history is how it was documented. There are also some places that have actual footage via video/audio recordings.
So maybe the real issue may be from B1 having this open door policy of "come one come all" And having so many other Cultures tag along. When they have only infiltrated and stole. Other Cultures never allow outsiders (especially blacks) to enter and learn their custom. For as long as Chinese and Latins have been in the black community selling their goods and services to blacks, we still are not allowed to enter their private personal spaces for entertainment or enjoyment. Yet they do it with ours.
More lost truths.
Save everything
Man, all these interviews are special! Love this channel! I could watch this all day on leisure time!
@Prestrev1010... thank you.. appreciate you..salute
Im loving all this history even though im 51 and from Brooklyn and got to see the culture explode in the early 80s i wasn't on deck to witness all of the beginning and none of the bronx history thank u for this knowledge salute to the channel and blackjack Brooklyn luv
Now this was a lot more forward with the questions . Now let Ran lies approach this brother Young Black Jack and tell him he's lying about the culture not coming from us!
Salute Luv is Luv
I was missing my daily dose of The Culture! Thank you for the knowledge, wisdom and understanding from those that were there when it started! B1
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Salute! Respect to Our elders
Salute thanks
brother black jack loving this channel
lUV US NEVER THEM
A1 Sasa... Put all these video in Chrono order as archival documents.. try to get the loving brothers together in a ball room and video them together if possible before they transition ✌🏾
tHATS WHATS UP my G. We Here, and luv us never them
FBA/ADOS gatekeep the culture from all outsiders
Your not being honest.
Who kept break dancing alive for 46 years?
@@ev8318 that's sad if that's your point, I was correct in what I said FBA/ADOS need to gatekeep their culture
@@oldskoolj23 Answer the question.
@@ev8318 stop with your lame ass trolling, FBA/ADOS created it so if FBA/ADOS carry it on or not is FBA/ADOS business, don't have to prove to the world about break dancing, all the rest are copy cats, get a life
@ev8318 a bunch of watered down non black culture vultures, that's who. Next....
Salute B1 FBA ❤️🔱🖤🇺🇸
This Def needs to be a tv documentary.
Black people, I see why they hate y'all. Y'all are amazing they have everything, but you have to elements, and I'm so glad they are still here to tell their story ❤
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The term "Burn" is very old. Like Sasa said, it was around before he started. Before dudes started dancing against each other, guys and girls danced against each other. Girls tended to move their bodies in ways that most guys wouldn't so in most cases the guys got "burned" by the girls. I am sure that people from other cities can attest to this. Maybe they called it by another name. Breaking came after Burning when the guys started to dance against each other. The term was being used when I was very young living in Harlem in the late '60s early '70s.
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The term "Burnin" was even being used in the Doo-Wop era....it basically meant to "1-up" someone but in a singing context
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So that man in the upper right corner is the lead singer of gq. I love their music and recognized his face.
no thats not rahiem laughing.
Yes, different neighborhoods had their own dances. I was in 8th and 9th grade that would be in 1968, 1969. When different groups would come to the parties, each group would do their dance. I forgot about that. The Jolly Stompers they had a step they did coming through the hood. You would hear them before you saw them.
Bra you got the movie for real all you gotta do is start raising money I’m in!
Thank You!
that's were a lot of 52 blocks come out of FBA allday
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Monk and Fat Face Mike talk about the 52 Blocks. The Black Spades started that. A lot of them knew Karate. And then they started greeting each other with the "Blocks" it was a Routine.
Lil Black, Bxdale legend. Ruled C-74/76..ask dem Bk Bloods!! Fam ain't no joke!!!! RESPECT!!
Didn’t know you knew that much about that time. Yeah those times we all was in the trenches . From Strrets to Jail. Wow smh Salute
I believe this "Burning" style that originated in the Bronx, traveled to Brooklyn and then they started calling it "Rocking". I truly believe that is the timeline. Because, per my understanding, the person called "Rubberband" who supposedly originated "Rocking", was originally from the Bronx and then went to Brooklyn.
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Brake dancing wasn't really a Brooklyn thing. We were ticking and pop locking. Spinning around on the ground wasn't our thing. We didn't dirty up our close by rolling around on the floor. We had mad love for our brothers and sister who did.
I never heard it called Rocking.. it was always called burnin. Rocking? What’s that?
@@Deinuh in a nutshell, “Rocking” is what the Puerto Rican kids in Brooklyn started calling the freestyle funk dances that they picked up from watching the Black kids from the neighborhood, along with the Funk and Soul dances on TV. After they picked it up they started calling it “Rocking”.
Rocking is the old term for uprocking. Bronx seemed to be about burns. Brooklyn had the burn and jerk. It is what I heard from severallpl interviews I watched. And forums on line (arguments between old boys and rockers is hilarious). So if I'm not correct, I will acquiesce
As it is said HIP HOP started out in the PARK not a house party
Puerto Ricans would never allow blacks to say they have been down with salsa since day 1
Truth is Mario Pauza who was a black Cuban, and who is credited with forming what later became known as Salsa lived in New York, and was a musical arranger for black American Swing Jazz muscians. It was the Swing Jazz element added to the Cuban Son which made it movible, so black American's are 50:50 responsible for Salsa.
If you think about burnt= cooked different words have replaced many previous words but basically mean the same thing basically I beat you smoked you, washed you, housed you, killed you,blazed you, rocked you you can go on and on
I said this.. burning was what the guys used to do.
Damn they at the big park! ❤🔥🔥🔥
Memories keep us slive
Yes he do. He’s amazing (Mike)
Haha who's this?
@@elliotsobers5266 lil syd 1040 bxdale 1st section! j buttaz n michelle nephew
Its good to see you back. Karate Pete aged from those early videos and lost weight. I hope its not health related
@bx
Shit it might be because he getting healthy loosing weight is a good thing we have been taught all wrong that big belly is unhealthy and we say that from good eating nah that from unhealthy eating and laziness not wanting to work out nothing so it might be a good thing brother!
@@Black_unity597 I didn't take into account that Pete was in his late 50's in those old videos and now he is in his late 60's but yeah he could be more health conscious
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Thanks you all
It’s crazy they didn’t want his name to live on he said it on video that he want bra to keep this going!
As we come they will learn . He can’t be forgotten it’s our legacy
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One of the most known burners in the day was Willie Richardson (Black Willie). Clark Kent, Mr Freeze, Blacula, Peabody. They would embarrass the fuc out you! 😢😮 Factzzz. #ActualFactul
Yes , these bro was awesome for real
Next thing they will say they started braids, nails and big earrings!!!
No no no , but the PR were there,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🏆
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Yup, we were there 🇵🇷😂
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Steryl Cookie Clemons Cowboy Winston.... Yeah BAD BOYS 😮 frfr lol
Yes thats them boyz > my brothers from other mothers, Chuck Chuck City Mob
How old was Black Jack and Black Willie? What year were they born? Having that info helps us calculate the years they were gettin down and helps us establish a timeline!
Mid 50s to early 60s.
Way b4 a lot even thought about something callled Hip Hop . Salute
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Where those drum beats come from Trashfeed?
African ancestors shugga
Rock was the dance and burn was a term we rock dancers used to describe a win. Just like the term go off to describe how far we took it on any given night. We mostly danced in this underground club scene where we competed against one another. It began in 1970 and spread from there. Mario hung with us in the Footsteps and Abby then brought it to Bronxdale. It was a brother named Cutty who turned him on to this club scene. The Rock Dance was the precursor to burning, lofting, breaking, house and hip hop. Just sharing information that always gets left out of the discussion.
@ontherealreel4832... NO... The rock dance IS NOT the precursor to OUR "burnin"... not in our culture... maybe for Spanish culture but not for us...we was NOT rocking!! we knew very little about rocking... so obviously Spanish rockers copied off some of our terminology using the phrase "BURNIN" after they was rocking...and most likely the rock dance came from the SPADE DANCE... The Spade Dance is probably the precursor to the rock dance!!
@@TheCulture..Starts1971 Yes sir my exact point. Can’t share about what you don’t know. Mario and Cutty knew though.
@@ontherealreel4832 , Mario was also at the Plaza Tunnel where they were Burning and doing the Spade dance. Keep in mind. Before Burning, we were doing the dances that the Rock dancers borrowed from. That seems to be the point thats always missing. AA had our Funk and Freestyle dancing way before burning. Those Funk dances predate Rocking.
It doesn’t get missed Hermano because I always include those dances you just mentioned. In fact I name them by their names. The difference is that Rock was not just a dance however it grew into a genre. By 1972 it was full blown and kept evolving. I can identify with some of the things brothers in this video are sharing. It all came from this insane way we partied. Pure Insanity. We shared in all of this.
@@ontherealreel4832 what do you mean by, "It wasn't just a dance, it grew into a genre". A genre of what?
Cookie. Clement. Sterl. Etc They battled the ZULU. KINGS 1975. This should be known
CAUSE WHEN U CREATE SOMETHING YOU CREATE IT THEN GIVE IT A NAME
Black people start it master it then move on to the next one
Right in other videos people are saying that exact thing. We did it, done it, and moved on to something else."
Burning is only one part of breaking the latins created the other part it was both styles
@juicepedraz941. yes the Latins part came in much later..not at the inception/creation..creation of b.boy Breakin was all burning African American
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This is what Triq Daddy Trashfeed is about. He is only interviewing the depth of the FBAs but cares less of what other cultures and influences have to contribute as far as what i learned from my son history class history cannot be biased and he has not gone to any other sources apart from who he assume or know is an Foundational Black American. Therefore his facts are compromised. Plus he ignores the founding father themselves like Grand Master Flash.
YOU DELULU 😂😂
@@feeva9728 we did not come late that's a bs lie. But answer this what moves the first bboys create I ask this question all the time and don't get answers
Red Flags all throughout
@IAMHIPHOP74... What flags?
All you do is hate because no one likes you! You are the Christmas gift that they left on the shelf! Lmao 😂 🤣
Stop Tether!
😂😂27.45 mark .he said he runs 1mile a day then 30 seconds later he like I only run 3 days out the week.
Ok Burnin became break dancing when hip hop emerged. So all these cats confirmed DJ Kool Herc as the founder of the break beats. There is one liar in the group though. The guy standing infront the red brickwall.
Cholly rock seems to have all his faculties.
Charlie Rock isn't lying he saying what he knows. He's told the story of Burning back in 70-71 because they were the Baby Spades. Now the actual Spades started doing it as a greeting and it was kinda like a hand shake with these elaborate moves. Like Jack is saying, "It evolved from what they were seeing the Big Spades doing ." Now as they were the protectors and a gang, the children would do what they were doing and incorporating these Spades moves in their dance moves. Charlie Rock is a Baby Spade. After The Spades created the territory they could go anywhere and the children started the Dance Battling at first against OTHER BRONXDALE Buildings. Each building was Spray Painted with w ♠️ and then Gen1, Gen2, Gen3, Gen4, (That is the Graffiti Part) and so on. So those were the battle grounds. Others eventually got involved mostly through the Herc parties. But they were already DOING THAT.
And "BBOY" stands for "BRONXDALE BOYS." After a Baby Spade would Dance and finish his moves he'd say "BRONXDAAAAAAAAAAAALE BOOOOOOOOY." And at the Herc Parties he would say "There goes those BBoys, where the BBoys at??". It's not something Herc coined it was something already in existence. But how would Herc know? Because he used to be at Mario's sets watching, listening and learning what the kids were doing and what they liked. Mario was the spearhead but I have to give mad credit to COOL DJ DEE AND TYRONE THE MIXOLOGIST. And I believe that DEE and his brother are NECK AND NECK with MARIO and they were Spades also.
@Jokah227jish Sammy Lugo from Brooklyn considers the Gang dance origins a myth. But I'm just an obsessive observer so don't shoot me
Little Papo started it
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Hipnhop deffo created in the south & west Bronxs the kids in Bronxdale jumping Mario's set . Herc in the community centers & house parties in the West bronx . But they only could've created hip hop by using sound system which the one thing Americans copied from Jamaicans & Trini's . Coke La Rock claimed they didn't know what Herc was trying to do . Herc was inspired by his Uncle a regular sound system dances that's where Herc witness the first & creator of electronic music the almighty King Tubbies. Herc would've watched U Roy who battled Prince Jazbo & I Roy Over the heaviest music in the world ....Dub music . Herc took that power the dub version excursion & developed the merry go round using breaks . Migrants brought their culture from the south up to Carolina then Brooklyn & Queens . King Charles another of King tubbies soldier brought his entire sound system to Queens & let the American kids takeover the two turntables . But Americans don't seem they can get enough of copying JA soundsysten yet deny it just look how many west Indian black new York and are 2 / 3rd generation of Caribbean descent they copy nearly every aspect of dancehall soundsystem especially in the boom bap era now you got black American reggae & dub sound systems , dub albums , they imitate the UK drum n base mcs the fast rapid mic chant , American rastas making dub music . But they deny & accuse everyone copying their style . Hip hop is a kids music dancehall is adults music with its roots in toasters in the 50s & 60s copying radio disc rockies & jazz scat singers they made into an mc dj culture way before Americans mcing over ska music .
Wrong. Absolutely WRONG. Look up Coxsone Dobbs interview where he tells where he got his ideas to create his sound and Studio? FBA, he, U-ROY AND Perry Lee Scratch got their influence from R&B, SOUL, JAZZ AND FUNK. PERIOD!!!!!! THAT WAS IN THE LATE 60'S. And after the R&B CRAZE died down, they created their own sound and SKA and REGGAE was born. Stop spreading misinformation. Now HERC credits U-ROY as being the one to show him music. I'm telling YOU that his Partner COXSONE DOBB got his influence from US. REGGAE came from mixing Jamaican sound over Black American Artists MUSIC. Go look it up.
@@Jokah227jish You're proper joker lol. You NYC do not have a clue about sound system .Do not talk about what you don't know. The black spades say the Bronxdale kids had ....attitude and it was reflected in the way they jumped on their adults sets punching out instead of one but two turns . FBA read and assess the REAL PIONEERS of sound system interviews and twist the truth !! I bet you didn't know Berry Gordy was inspired by Coxsone Dodd !! Also Herc the pioneer you yanks love bitching and hating wasn't Americanized he maintained his culture & accent . Herc made the best hip hop ever. He may have not created but he unified the factions and the elements. Herc was a King Tubbies soldier so was King Charles . We not interested in Americanized hip hop we just like the old time sounds, rough it up & turn it into dub . It's all about the sound system .
You couldn't mix reggae nor dance hall and call that bullshit real hip hop. Black American R&B ,Motown ,Jazz and Funk Blacks listen to not your bullshit information. Herc played Motown or Reggae on his set ? A Jamaican invented hip hop by playing Motown records and break beats a teenage kid at the time, who just came from Jamaica ? Started playing reggae or Motown calling it hip hop REALLY? Please demonstrate and make it make sense PLEASE DO SOOOOO!!!
That's why to this day Reggae artist still remix or imitate BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC 😢
@mauricem.5778 Why ?? because your people make the best music in the world bruv .
Burning came from rock or uprock stop trying to take credit for ejat you didn't invent Puerto ricans were the burners the gang members
@vieshanblacksloft.. nah you got it backwards
@TheCulture..Since1971 burning comes from Rock or uprock we been doing that shit since the late 60s. you are the one eho got it wrong trying to take credit for. Uprock.... plz we started uprock and burns, and top rock is a bite from.our dance wake up dude
Are you familiar with the name Rubberband this guy and his rival Mexico use to do floor moves in 72 because I saw them dance in the 310 in 72 and both these dudes did floor moves not as advanced as today but to.me these two were some of the first break dancers
@vieshanblacksloft426...smh uprock is yours!! you can have it!! top rock is yours!! you can have that too... but burning is ours... the proof that's burning is ours... is the original brown skin b.boys at kool Herc and coke la rock parties was calling it "burning" too... but they wasn't calling it uprock or top rock or down rock...the original brown skin b.boys at Kool Herc and coke la rock parties NEVER HEARD OF UPROCK or rocking...so the original b.boy'n style came straight from burnin... Spanish gangs who was rocking probably came into contact with African American gangs who called it burnin.. so the Spanish gangs probably picked up burnin trying to compete with the African American gangs burn dancing... cuz when you look at Spanish dancstyles in the islands.. the dance styles in the islands is totally different than burning style here in the NEWYORK ..so its obvious Spanish gangs picked up burnin from African American gangs...but uprock down rock is all yours!!
@TheCulture..Since1971 burning was domd by uprockers in t he early 70s what are you talking about you guys weren't even dancing then we burn eith rock movements way b4 the b boys wow really... gbu