All of these Hip Hop roots clips, youre posting Mr. Wayne make an excellent companion piece for further enrichment to Ed Piskor's Hip Hop Family Tree. I cannot overstate how much I've learned and appreciated from these CRUCIAL clips. Thank you for putting in the time, work and LOVE! Much respect to all the people from the neighborhood who've participated. Special shout out to Mr. Cholly Rock. Knowledge.
mike, you came thruonce again my brother! thank you sooo much. Dont forget to shop this shit around. You can make it a whole series with different episodes
It's great to hear the OG's speak about the origins. This should be cherished on some real shit. Lets set the history straight before they are all gone.
Yes some movie or a proper documentary or something would do very okay before they all gone and then release a movie that's only have the real story and gave fiction
Being from Philly, we didn't do those mainstream dances either. Philly had the crossfire, the slop, the bop, etc...early 60's. Into the 70's, we had disco, but NY was always serious about their disco clubs. I have family in the Bronx, same age as these dudes, so I always partied with them, good times too. However, I never knew about Breakdance. 1974-75, the Sound of Phila. was very popular so I can see why "Love is Message" was a hit. I appreciate you sharing a little known Black history facts.
Had the pleasure of seeing this man dance against my man Da La Rock form the Casanova Crew out of Castle Hill back in the days a great battle. No cardboard.
Wished there was footage of these guys doing their thing. back in the 70's. My teenage era was early to mid 80's hip hop break dancing, the young cats took those styles from their older big brothers and introduced it to the world.
History right here, the real deal, thanks for uploading this fantastic interview, cannot get better, would be great if one of these pioneers can emulate even for a couple of seconds how they would stomp or burn as they call it.
At age 60 I remember the majority of what Charlie rock is talkin about I used to love the hebelo T connection and don't forget Scotty's around the corner he was the only one in the hood with a Rolls-Royce
The Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash On The Wheels Of Steel dropped two years before Rockit did, so I guess Cholly Rock was a bit wrong about Rockit being the first piece of wax with pure turntablism in it. Nevertheless he is extremely knowledgeable about the history of hip hop culture and I hope you guys realize how amazing these videos are.
+jumitus when the official adventures of flash dropped in mid spring of 1981, it highlighted what we were doing on tape minus the mc back then in nyc the official adventures of flash showcased the dj skills and put it on record, of course reaching a wider scope of listeners, however, when dst played on rockit he incorporated the cut being able to be fused as an instrument with traditional instruments which was a first, cholly rock was on point, pointing out the 2 differences. Peace......
Beaver was The Michael Jordan of Break Dance, He was the Bridge from old school break dance to new school break dancing. Beaver was only 12 at the time
Gotta look up pics of dude. I’ve never heard of him. I wonder if someone could talk to him to see where HE got breaking from. Who did HE first see doing it or who inspired him. I wanna see someone trace it ALL THE WAY DOWN to who FIRST took it down to the floor.
Thank you Cholly rock for mentioning me Mark Mark the original puppet master. Yes herc played in back of Bronx river center 1977 day after the blackout I battled Ahmed billy crazy legs that night. Shout out to Wade and all the Shaka Zulu's 74,75,76,77 Good times # BBOY4LIFE
I heard HERC in 1975 ..1520 OUTSIDE SEATING AREA OF CENTER I was a 1976 B BOY ...R C ..@River Park Towers ,Cedar park 1520/1600, 1st B b-boy party dj kojack & ice B-boy KLARK KENT ...was in the circle I was 13 yrs old i went after Coke LAROCK .....was there i became a LAROCK./...................SA SA ......A1#B BOY
I would like to hear more stories, the nut and bolts. I have. A story for you about the Zulu’s I lived in the Classon Point Lane 46-b, the family next door was the Brown family, they were the toughest people in the area. One day the zulu came looking for Lamar. I was going up the stairs and my sister Joanne called me into her room and pointed to the window with her finger to her lips The Zulu were coming around the opposite building and there were a good three hundred. The made a space and this kid came out he was about six five, Lamarcame out to face three or more and Lamar Brown screamed at the leader a big kid named Henry , Henry just complained and said Lamar why are you always picking on me, Lamar screamed for Henry and his people to go home. I have to wonder if you were there that night in the lane. The think people don’t know is that if any one started trouble they would have to explain to the old Black Spades why the trouble started and nobody wanted to have to explain anything to the old Spades because they were all karate black belts. The Bronxdale spades even before the spades Bronxriver was a dangerous place.Oncethe Zulu came walking up Lafayette ave and they were chanting there Zulu song when they got to the flagpole ,we were drinking beer the leader asked for a beer and we gave it to him we had three beers left we gave up the three beers, after that we would hide the beer in the milk box’s .I left in 1974 from what I remember the Zulu were not a real problem the problem was the young Salvage Nomads. Our project was the fourth division Savage Nomads. There were times we had to jack up some of the young nomads they though they could come in the lane and not have to pay. There was two attacks on the lane in the middle of the night, they were thought to have been these young nomads, they broke windows on cars they did as four o’clock in the morning and hid like thieves . Nobody could make trouble in the lane in those days, there was five family’s that were put in the lane to keep an eye on them because there children were involved with murder.
@@statest8088 Exactly… it CAN be forgotten and removed. Look how many of us have “forgotten” MLK’s “content of character” message and look at the “removal” of the noses on those Egyptian Sphinx.
Hes smart tho..... you trying hard to make him "THE FOUNDER" and he telling you A PIONEER...lmao I saw the birth of it all before it was called HipHop and break dancing , I also know some Black Spades that used to come to our block parties to watch us battle dance in east harlem.... we called it uprockin and shank dance. . A year later the bronx was doing it a calling it TopRock.... we also used the term b boy which meant Bronx Boy cause of their dance style ....I think I know a little too much, enough to write a book but like I always say, EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR CREDIT that's why no one mentions Mario
mr cholly rock you are so humble, but let mr Wayne and the rest of the world give you props, big ups, the honor and respect you deserve sir!!! mr wayne enough can't be said for what you are doing for keeping the history ALIVE!!!! and well. telling and doing the research to me you are an historian, be cause you went straight to the sources. fathers/ Pioneers you guys inspired this particular dance to become WORLD WIDE!!! i will say that why is it overseas they know more about this history than America??? i mean they have big festival's that include all four of the elements! i wore my name plate buckle to my job one time and the giggles i got until i told them why? still these young'n now...maaaan listen please be there when they catch up. this needs to be taught in the colleges!! being from Brooklyn till 77" i watched from the 80's the media pretty much got a few people and ran it from there. and you know everybody and anybody had their so-called take on hip hop. NOT!!!! these guys are telling it like it was before hip-hop as the world knows now! but i wonder where krs got his info and who? let africa bambatta and kool herc speak for themselves!! correct all false information. get old skool and new skool together at the table nameen. big ups and mad props to you mr wayne for all documentation. it was needed for the next generations coming up! peace sir. tagman. freeze masters Brooklyn always funky fresh2x.
What cholly is saying is that DST used the TT as a musical instrument. Flash did not. Flash used it to cut and scratch but not with musicality, more like live editing less musical instrument.
Flash's bboy name was Rubberband Man? omg... I've found this name when I was searching info about the originators of Rocking, it was Rubberband Man and Apache who actually turned violence into dancing battles. if I'm not mistaken...
I don't think that's the same Rubber band man. That Rubber band man wasn't from the Bronx, and he got killed after a rocking battle over a girl. I forget what year he died, but I think it was before the breaking era. Would have to look it up again.
I'm watching this video thinking like some of the things he is talking about kind of sound like me growing up seen my big brothers doing the same thing in Nigeria ### 83
Burning was ALL l over. Even in Newburgh Poughkeepsie etc. Spring Valley. Yonkers. Mt Vernon etc. Like I said. Newburgh is like BRONXDALE. We dominated all these towns. Little Cities. Basketball 🏀. Football 🏈. Track. Etc. We were breaking. In the Early. 1973 We say breaking. ( Meaning to the floor ). A lot of teams couldn't come to Newburgh. Just like BRONXDALE. And We got way of life. THE First generation of HIP HOP
All of these Hip Hop roots clips, youre posting Mr. Wayne make an excellent companion piece for further enrichment to Ed Piskor's Hip Hop Family Tree. I cannot overstate how much I've learned and appreciated from these CRUCIAL clips. Thank you for putting in the time, work and LOVE! Much respect to all the people from the neighborhood who've participated. Special shout out to Mr. Cholly Rock. Knowledge.
Huge respect for posting this. Many thanks.
mike, you came thruonce again my brother! thank you sooo much. Dont forget to shop this shit around. You can make it a whole series with different episodes
when Mike G and Cholly Rock get together @ 21.30 the humour kicks in thamks for sharing
This Man remembers everybody's name and hood they were from. Amazing. I can't even remember half the people I went to elementary school with. LOL
Cholly Rock...Brilliant Brother!
THANK YOU. Mad respect for recording this
Roberto Flores thanks for your comment
It's great to hear the OG's speak about the origins. This should be cherished on some real shit. Lets set the history straight before they are all gone.
instablaster...
Yes some movie or a proper documentary or something would do very okay before they all gone and then release a movie that's only have the real story and gave fiction
look at what is going on now. they say jamaicans and puerto ricans created hip hop. thanks for these videos.
Facts
Being from Philly, we didn't do those mainstream dances either. Philly had the crossfire, the slop, the bop, etc...early 60's. Into the 70's, we had disco, but NY was always serious about their disco clubs. I have family in the Bronx, same age as these dudes, so I always partied with them, good times too. However, I never knew about Breakdance. 1974-75, the Sound of Phila. was very popular so I can see why "Love is Message" was a hit.
I appreciate you sharing a little known Black history facts.
Had the pleasure of seeing this man dance against my man Da La Rock form the Casanova Crew out of Castle Hill back in the days a great battle. No cardboard.
Wished there was footage of these guys doing their thing. back in the 70's. My teenage era was early to mid 80's hip hop break dancing, the young cats took those styles from their older big brothers and introduced it to the world.
Frosty freeze’s footage is closer to the original Bboy style from what I heard.
thanks for this... from Houston Texas
Should do film about them lot of late sixties early 70s B-Boy Crew
History right here, the real deal, thanks for uploading this fantastic interview, cannot get better, would be great if one of these pioneers can emulate even for a couple of seconds how they would stomp or burn as they call it.
It's a shame theres no footage of what they were doing man...All we got is this later 80's stuff..
Because that's all that really mattered. The top CREWS, that showed the world what it is, were the crews, from the 1980's.
Great stuff !
Les..lower east side had its own b boy style....stand up straight spins drops and kicks.early to mid 70s
Cholly Rock is my man. He taught Fliprock from the New York City Breakers how to break. 💯
At age 60 I remember the majority of what Charlie rock is talkin about I used to love the hebelo T connection and don't forget Scotty's around the corner he was the only one in the hood with a Rolls-Royce
Grandwizard Theodore started the scratching by accident LOL
He did?
whats the name of that song at 37:40
+Jonathan Kidd ….funky music is the thing….dynamic corvettes
The Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash On The Wheels Of Steel dropped two years before Rockit did, so I guess Cholly Rock was a bit wrong about Rockit being the first piece of wax with pure turntablism in it. Nevertheless he is extremely knowledgeable about the history of hip hop culture and I hope you guys realize how amazing these videos are.
+jumitus when the official adventures of flash dropped in mid spring of 1981, it highlighted what we were doing on tape minus the mc back then in nyc the official adventures of flash showcased the dj skills and put it on record, of course reaching a wider scope of listeners, however, when dst played on rockit he incorporated the cut being able to be fused as an instrument with traditional instruments which was a first, cholly rock was on point, pointing out the 2 differences. Peace......
Taking nothing away, enjoyed that lil' splitting of hairs on that!
I think he meant that actually blow up. #RockIt took the scratch #Global but Flash did drop first tho. No question 💯
Beaver was The Michael Jordan of Break Dance, He was the Bridge from old school break dance to new school break dancing. Beaver was only 12 at the time
Gotta look up pics of dude. I’ve never heard of him. I wonder if someone could talk to him to see where HE got breaking from. Who did HE first see doing it or who inspired him. I wanna see someone trace it ALL THE WAY DOWN to who FIRST took it down to the floor.
Thank you Cholly rock for mentioning me Mark Mark the original puppet master. Yes herc played in back of Bronx river center 1977 day after the blackout
I battled Ahmed billy crazy legs that night. Shout out to Wade and all the Shaka Zulu's 74,75,76,77
Good times # BBOY4LIFE
Appreciate history while we have it💯🔥🔥
I heard HERC in 1975 ..1520 OUTSIDE SEATING AREA OF CENTER
I was a 1976 B BOY ...R C ..@River Park Towers ,Cedar park 1520/1600,
1st B b-boy party dj kojack & ice
B-boy KLARK KENT ...was in the circle I was 13 yrs old i went after
Coke LAROCK .....was there i became a LAROCK./...................SA SA ......A1#B BOY
thanks!!
I could watch that 1960s dance instructor all day though.
She definitely looked to be in shape.
I would like to hear more stories, the nut and bolts. I have. A story for you about the Zulu’s I lived in the Classon Point Lane 46-b, the family next door was the Brown family, they were the toughest people in the area. One day the zulu came looking for Lamar. I was going up the stairs and my sister Joanne called me into her room and pointed to the window with her finger to her lips The Zulu were coming around the opposite building and there were a good three hundred. The made a space and this kid came out he was about six five, Lamarcame out to face three or more and Lamar Brown screamed at the leader a big kid named Henry , Henry just complained and said Lamar why are you always picking on me, Lamar screamed for Henry and his people to go home. I have to wonder if you were there that night in the lane. The think people don’t know is that if any one started trouble they would have to explain to the old Black Spades why the trouble started and nobody wanted to have to explain anything to the old Spades because they were all karate black belts. The Bronxdale spades even before the spades Bronxriver was a dangerous place.Oncethe Zulu came walking up Lafayette ave and they were chanting there Zulu song when they got to the flagpole ,we were drinking beer the leader asked for a beer and we gave it to him we had three beers left we gave up the three beers, after that we would hide the beer in the milk box’s .I left in 1974 from what I remember the Zulu were not a real problem the problem was the young Salvage Nomads. Our project was the fourth division Savage Nomads. There were times we had to jack up some of the young nomads they though they could come in the lane and not have to pay. There was two attacks on the lane in the middle of the night, they were thought to have been these young nomads, they broke windows on cars they did as four o’clock in the morning and hid like thieves . Nobody could make trouble in the lane in those days, there was five family’s that were put in the lane to keep an eye on them because there children were involved with murder.
i lived in 34. clason point lane
Google says it's hip-hop birthday so I'm here for this.
History can be buried, but never removed or forgotten.
Really, how come they still can't figure out how they built the pyramids
@@statest8088 Exactly… it CAN be forgotten and removed. Look how many of us have “forgotten” MLK’s “content of character” message and look at the “removal” of the noses on those Egyptian Sphinx.
I love this guy.
Hes smart tho..... you trying hard to make him "THE FOUNDER" and he telling you A PIONEER...lmao I saw the birth of it all before it was called HipHop and break dancing , I also know some Black Spades that used to come to our block parties to watch us battle dance in east harlem.... we called it uprockin and shank dance. . A year later the bronx was doing it a calling it TopRock.... we also used the term b boy which meant Bronx Boy cause of their dance style ....I think I know a little too much, enough to write a book but like I always say, EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR CREDIT that's why no one mentions Mario
Why doesn't anyone mention Mario?
18.18
whats his beef with the electric boogie
it a dope dance
he sounded it off and got pissed lool
Right… Popping / Electric Boogie is dope as heLL! I’ve never been a big fan of pop-locking though.
Is the wild stomp like rocking or totally different?
What is the name of the man with the grey beard, white shirt with vertical lines talking in front of the fence and red door?
Charlie Rock I think.
mr cholly rock you are so humble, but let mr Wayne and the rest of the world give you props, big ups, the honor and respect you deserve sir!!! mr wayne enough can't be said for what you are doing for keeping the history ALIVE!!!! and well. telling and doing the research to me you are an historian, be cause you went straight to the sources. fathers/ Pioneers you guys inspired this particular dance to become WORLD WIDE!!! i will say that why is it overseas they know more about this history than America??? i mean they have big festival's that include all four of the elements! i wore my name plate buckle to my job one time and the giggles i got until i told them why? still these young'n now...maaaan listen please be there when they catch up. this needs to be taught in the colleges!! being from Brooklyn till 77" i watched from the 80's the media pretty much got a few people and ran it from there. and you know everybody and anybody had their so-called take on hip hop. NOT!!!! these guys are telling it like it was before hip-hop as the world knows now! but i wonder where krs got his info and who? let africa bambatta and kool herc speak for themselves!! correct all false information. get old skool and new skool together at the table nameen. big ups and mad props to you mr wayne for all documentation. it was needed for the next generations coming up! peace sir. tagman. freeze masters Brooklyn always funky fresh2x.
At 28:40 why was the top 4 greatest bboys never mentioned Edited out?!?!?!
John Brown from St Ann's avenue should be mentioned ask Kool Herc....
wow!!!! look at history.
Break dancing started in Harlem at Chuck city and Lincoln project and franklyn projects
the real deal history lessons.......peace
DJ SMOKIE & the Smokatrons B-BOYS 4 Life , old school , ( M.P.B. )Master, Plan, Bunch -w- dj B.O ZonK
The mashed potato abd the temptation dance 😆🤣😂 someone please pray for them
no doubt about dst. i know that he is the 1st
correction: Do the Hustle was 1975
Big up Eastchester project
What cholly is saying is that DST used the TT as a musical instrument. Flash did not. Flash used it to cut and scratch but not with musicality, more like live editing less musical instrument.
Flash's bboy name was Rubberband Man? omg... I've found this name when I was searching info about the originators of Rocking, it was Rubberband Man and Apache who actually turned violence into dancing battles. if I'm not mistaken...
I don't think that's the same Rubber band man. That Rubber band man wasn't from the Bronx, and he got killed after a rocking battle over a girl. I forget what year he died, but I think it was before the breaking era. Would have to look it up again.
I'm watching this video thinking like some of the things he is talking about kind of sound like me growing up seen my big brothers doing the same thing in Nigeria ### 83
Hotty! The Shimmy Lol :P
What happened to "The Cave-Man Stomp"?? Bronx Dances Right?!!
wait they breakdanced on the concrete? whew! i could just imagine the arthritis that some dudes might have today if they was out there doing it
There's a lot of jams today that do breakin' circles on the concrete. That's just the rawest thing out there.
Cholly Rock speaking Truth
LOVE THIS SHIT
haha my friends mom actually created the swim on American Bandstand. Just being silly.
Tell'em what it is Big Homie ,damn baby ,he they would have the footage they would know for sure how we gave it up. 1976 a beautiful time.
SALUTE!
Burning was ALL l over. Even in Newburgh Poughkeepsie etc. Spring Valley. Yonkers. Mt Vernon etc. Like I said. Newburgh is like BRONXDALE. We dominated all these towns. Little Cities. Basketball 🏀. Football 🏈. Track. Etc. We were breaking. In the Early. 1973 We say breaking. ( Meaning to the floor ). A lot of teams couldn't come to Newburgh. Just like BRONXDALE. And We got way of life. THE First generation of HIP HOP
Don't 4 get Over the Dover ,
peace
Zulu Kings
The Almighty Zulu Nation
Universal Zulu Nation
Dude doesn't understand what he means as an instrument.