PROOF That You CAN Make a Cheap Drumset Sound Good.

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  • @sccdrum93
    @sccdrum93  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

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    • @twizzlerkid9995
      @twizzlerkid9995 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a set dpd encore and was wondering if you could tune them

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +831

    I can make a good drum kit sound bad just by playing it.

    • @kaiserwilhelmii1827
      @kaiserwilhelmii1827 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah same here. Also without much effort.

    • @DynoPoV
      @DynoPoV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jackie Planck funny ha ha

    • @coolchristine482
      @coolchristine482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

    • @sickdrummer3831
      @sickdrummer3831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To funny. I encourage you to practice and have confidence in your ability. Be yourself behind your kits. I enjoyed the laugh though.

    • @devonhublit9232
      @devonhublit9232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can make it sound bad by turning it

  • @kylehazel5944
    @kylehazel5944 7 ปีที่แล้ว +660

    The saddest part is before he changed anything, the zebra kit still sounded better then my kit -_-

    • @MingusDynastyy
      @MingusDynastyy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Two soulz Doubt it, drums just sound better when recorded than in a live setting, especially with bad acoustics.

    • @MT-hj1nj
      @MT-hj1nj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      dont be surprised. for sure sounded better than mine.

    • @jacobponce4406
      @jacobponce4406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kyle Hazel for real, but he actually knows how to tune

    • @yozafardharold6947
      @yozafardharold6947 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel you mate

    • @ejwang615
      @ejwang615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kick drum sounds pretty punchy after adjustment, awesome job

  • @TheLetsagogo
    @TheLetsagogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a seasoned musician who picked up drums over the pandemic. This channel has been a consistent reliable companion on that journey. Recently picked up a beater kit for my rehearsal space and now I know what needs doing and what I can very well leave alone

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a southern AZ drumsmith, I bought a pallet of “shit kits” at an estate sale. Literally an entire wrapped pallet of shells, hoops and hardware.
    Took it all home and went to work much like you did.
    I had very little money for improvements and other than my woodworking tools and experience, it was all me.
    Sold or donated 98% of the haul to people and schools and kept a few gems for myself.
    All in all a great experience and it helped me learn how little things (like the cloth over the bearing edge) can affect sound and performance.
    Great video as always.

  • @lodougherty
    @lodougherty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    Man. Am I crazy for thinking it didn't sound *that* bad before the adjustments? I've heard far worse.

    • @daveeverhart5834
      @daveeverhart5834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      No, you're not. While it wasn't great, it •did• have a certain character about it.

    • @imsorrydave9000
      @imsorrydave9000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Only really bad part was floor Tom, it was god awful

    • @Joey-qb7mf
      @Joey-qb7mf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No i did as well. Lol

    • @jusefsoleiman8027
      @jusefsoleiman8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it sounds better than my first kit brand new lol

    • @shamicentertainment1262
      @shamicentertainment1262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably his recording that made it sound good

  • @sickdrummer3831
    @sickdrummer3831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you. 30 years of drumming, I’ve always said that you CAN make a cheap kit sound good with the proper heads and tuning and making sure your bearing edge is clean etc.

  • @davidchapman5938
    @davidchapman5938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +756

    $0 budget. *Throws $1000 worth of cymbals on for good measure*

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Ok you got me :P I was truthful in saying that I worked with "what I've got" though...didn't buy anything I didn't already have :)

    • @davidchapman5938
      @davidchapman5938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Stephen Clark I’m only playing :) Nice vid - keep up the good work!

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Haha thanks David! I know you're just messing around.

    • @nate6692
      @nate6692 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Probably not a bad rule of thumb. But new heads will exceed the value of a kit like this. Actually they can exceed the value of any mid range used kit.

    • @jabezmoodley2653
      @jabezmoodley2653 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Chapman lol

  • @erinnerungen8823
    @erinnerungen8823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    You never did talk about those rusted screws like you said you would later on in the video though

    • @DG-sf9ei
      @DG-sf9ei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Throw em in synthetic motor oil or atf for a week , they'll never rust again.

  • @natnatbat
    @natnatbat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I LOVE your channel. I’m self taught and your channel is the ONLY place I come for advice. Thanks so much!!!

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Tom beat after tuning reminds me of the intro to Foo Fighters There Goes My Hero. Also after tuning it sounding ripe for some bonham style action on it ;)

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Haha been listening to the new Foo Fighters album lately. Maybe not that particular song...but some great music and great drumming nonetheless. :)

    • @skylerpearce4073
      @skylerpearce4073 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My Hero!!!

  • @benjaminfeddersen7937
    @benjaminfeddersen7937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Proper tuning
    2. Post production
    In that order. Helpful video!

  • @ebollinger72
    @ebollinger72 7 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    You should do a collab with rdavidr!

    • @lastcall9998
      @lastcall9998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Please no, he has great things to say but he talks so boringly...

    • @ChipsNeeson
      @ChipsNeeson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Maybe a Beard-Off

    • @Beeray11
      @Beeray11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      haha i came here from an rdavidr video!

    • @calebvivanco8414
      @calebvivanco8414 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES!! That would be awesome! I just discovered this channel, but both channels seem to focus on some of the same ideas. I will now be waiting for that to happen.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Haha nice suggestions guys! Apparently a lot of people agree, seeing as how this is the top comment. :) My favorite rdavidr video along these lines is the one where he buys the Ludwig Acrolyte at Goodwill for $20 and fixes it up. Such a great snare buy! When it comes down to the true DIY stuff, rdavidr is so much more the expert on that than myself....which really could make for some interesting collab possibilities.

  • @jakekim7109
    @jakekim7109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i usually repair the drumkit of my friend's or even in my school before an activity or sumsht. All i can say that the things that were mentioned are pretty usefull in times of last minute adjustments. i have some tips too
    1. If there is no moongel (or those sticky toys) i use electrical tape (tissues are optional)
    2. Always tap the head near the rods for better tone
    3. Keep that sht clean
    4. For floors, in case you have a dead floor and you dont have a drumkey, use any cloth and lay it over the drumhead. may not be the best fix but it will do for that time being.
    5. In order not to scrape your bassdrum due to the pedals, use plastic cover( kinda clean imo)
    6. Going for a cheap kit is not bad, but dont ever go cheap on those cymbals.
    7. In some cases, a dent on your toms or even in your snare will appear when you play hard. one way to fix it without removing the heads is using heat (lighter, heatgun etc) dont go too close, just enough so that the dent will go back to its place

  • @ZeroG84
    @ZeroG84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Snare was pretty good to start with. Don't know why you switched the basement kickdrum to a basement snare, but ow well. You did say it's subjective etc. meh. At least the first version had "something going". :)

    • @TheApostleofRock
      @TheApostleofRock 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree, i honestly didn't mind the snare originally

    • @finmillard4736
      @finmillard4736 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the snare sounded good both times

  • @ericlaureanno1952
    @ericlaureanno1952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job brother I just recently restored an old CB sp series kit disassemble the entire kit we did all the lugs hoops tension rods installed new heads Remo reverse. Control sound on the snare and for the toms Powerstroke p3s coated on everything except for the Kik I put an Aquarian super kick 1 I kept all the old reso heads cleaned them reinstalled and tune them properly you would not believe how this kid sounds also I put a new paint job I wish I had some before and after is the show you anyway nice job and you are right you can bring an old kit back to life regardless of what kind and how cheap....

  • @danielchase8487
    @danielchase8487 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 6pc pearl ex ...reheaded it and painted the inside of the shells for a warmer sound ...bottom heads were all ebony ..both kicks had power stroke 3 with built in falams and added an extra with wooden beaters made a great sound ...top batter heads were single pinstripe for good resenence...all for less than 500

  • @somedood6621
    @somedood6621 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I had my first drum kit, my parents bought it for me as a kid and eventually I saved up enough money to put evans heads on and a few years later a new snare and some zildjian cymbals... similar to this video, the difference was way better once I done it. On a Mapex Saturn kit these days though which is luckily better!

  • @LudwigSC93
    @LudwigSC93 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great job making it sound better but imo I liked the snare before.

  • @drewdickmann9210
    @drewdickmann9210 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took this beat up Gammon 5 piece, took off the yellow wrap and spray painted it with a neon blue design on a white background. Cleaned up the chrome and other metal parts. Then got some new Sabian XS20 crashes. Fun project and I'm using it for my capstone. Sounds great with new heads.

    • @drewdickmann9210
      @drewdickmann9210 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      $150 for the original set, $200 for cymbals, paint, WD40, etc

  • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
    @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 7 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    plot twist: it's actually a ludwig kit 😂

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Hahaha!! Or it's a super legit Gretsch kit and it was literally hand made at their Ridgeland, SC workshop. But we'll never know...will we? Skinning that zebra takes a lot of effort.

    • @krismichalsky
      @krismichalsky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The lugs look very Ludwig Accent kit to me..... I had a Ludwig kit with those exact lugs. It was a Ludwig Accent Custom.

    • @spartandrew8672
      @spartandrew8672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Ludwig and it sucks

    • @markomarkovic5729
      @markomarkovic5729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spartandrew8672 You never had a chance to play Amati

    • @iBaraban
      @iBaraban 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markomarkovic5729 you never had a chance to play Riga!

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a pallet of drums at an estate sale for $100. Had about 3 complete kits of various brands in various states of repair on it.
    From that I drumsmithed 2 complete kits on a budget of about $50. The process of doing this was very therapeutic and I sold both of them for $300.
    I had fun doing the work, and I made some coin helping one get their first kit, and another with a beater kit for his bar gigs.
    Win-win-win. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥

  • @alcyone9361
    @alcyone9361 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best drummer I ever heard when it comes to not only playing but in tuning his kit and selecting cymbals was Joe Morello. 4 piece kit with hi hat and two cymbals and he was amazing.

  • @ViniciusTeixeira1
    @ViniciusTeixeira1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even have my drum kit in my house, but I still enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work! :D

  • @raghavbhutani
    @raghavbhutani 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey man! can we possibly get a future video where you tell us how you mix your kit and the effects that would suit a cheap drumset better. Thanks for such great videos :D

  • @richardball4973
    @richardball4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, overall sound aside, there is a lot of enjoyment to be found in taking old junk drums, refinishing their appearance in various ways (NO DAMN ZEBRA PRINT) and using some of these tricks to improve the sound to make them decent. I have a "main kit" in my Pearl Forums that I use for shows and such, but overall have about 8 or 9 total sets at this point. Some matching shells. Some total Frankenstein deals. Some I honestly couldn't even tell ya. Most pricey one has about $35 in it: I spent that in buying a metallic vinyl wrap. Best part: you can really try some creative things in building these one-offs because if you destroy it all, you're out almost nothing and almost any part of a drum can be brought back to life somehow...or at the very least salvaged for hardware and parts. May just be me, but I find an enjoyment in it that is separate from playing altogether...and regardless of overall "quality sound" spoken of by drum purists, for most situations not involving bigger stage set-ups or recording, "decent sound" is more than enough to suffice, and custom gear just looks badass to most. Just knowing basic sound qualities, acoutics, and what affects them will give the insight to avoid screwing up the "drum" part of the drum you're working on.
    And sometimes, you hit gold. My second-best kit (sometimes best, in fact) is a 4-piece set-up I play with my jazz group. All natural wood-grain finish. Got lucky and found four different shells that had similar-looking wood under their wraps. Bass drum from an abandoned house. Rack and floor toms from someone's pile of junk to be thrown out, and the jewel...a 1963 Slingerland wood snare from a yard sale for $1. Affectionately named the "Dollar-Menu Drumkit", she looks and sounds frickin' beautiful.

  • @richannen217
    @richannen217 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx for the tips.
    I've been a drummer a long time.
    Or should I say I "drummed" long ago n had a long hiatus behind the kit.
    Now I'm back n looking to but a cheap kit n make it sound big n punchy.
    I kno cymbals will do a lot but your tips will work out AWESOME!
    Thanx man!!
    🤘

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The truth is... You can get along cheap drums but hardly ever, cheap cymbals

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Beatriz Totally true. I’ve even had decent cymbals that I disliked. I would dread hitting them & regretted it every time I did.

    • @bryandrums32
      @bryandrums32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheKillerAwokeBeforeDawn what kind were they?

    • @joshisnot11
      @joshisnot11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I say just use a trash can lid and a sheet music stand lol

  • @averagejackmedia609
    @averagejackmedia609 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    actually I hunted down a cheap $100.00 set online for a coworkers son thats interested but doesn't know if he's gonna stick with it. Stripped it down and gave it a good clean and just about to put all the heads back on and tune it up. Looks like new now, amazing what some fine steel wool and metal polish can do.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome! Most old kits will clean up nicely when you get rid of the beat-up wrap. That's what I did with my kit a year or so ago. It used to have a burgundy, shiny wrap on it. I tore it off and added a light lacquer on the outside of the shells, so now it at least has a more "professional" wood look.

    • @simonwoodward476
      @simonwoodward476 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too have done this. A pearl forum series that will see me for a few years of gigs at least. It sounds pretty nice to my ears. Trying to get people together but man!!! Roll on gig town!!!

  • @rydergrimes6696
    @rydergrimes6696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I think I saw that drum kit in the plains of Africa it was an odd shaped and sized zebra

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That must be where my friend found it. Captured it and brought it home!

    • @nikwboy635-_-2
      @nikwboy635-_-2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It probably was a zebreaatjeifjdojakfna'pejsdkgjsk'dfm
      epnkfdsakpmgpksaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @lAmayal
      @lAmayal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ryder Grimes don’t judge ( literally )

    • @hansgrueber8169
      @hansgrueber8169 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toto used to have this kit.

    • @jimfritz9503
      @jimfritz9503 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hansgrueber8169 We re not in Kansas anymore !

  • @cablevamp3163
    @cablevamp3163 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 1965 Penncrest and 1965 Pearl mixed together and have the original skins and changed nothing but the hi hat and a few cymbals and the kick pedal. No tom has a resonant head and the snare has a subtle snap to it. It’s got assloads of tape on the sheepskin heads to muffle but as crappy as it looks it’s taken 20 straight years of me beating the hell out of it and still sounds amazing. You don’t need this or that it’s matter of taste and not fucking your kit up. I’d love a new kit but this was my grandpa and uncles kits from their childhood and it was passed on to me. For a 50 something year old kit it’s really reliable.

  • @MikiMaiden
    @MikiMaiden 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    *I love the zebra patterns. You made a good tuning and prove that you can buy a cheap set with good sound. Most beginner drummers are thinking like that: If I will pay a lot of money for the set I wont have any problems with it. My tip: practise, practise, practise. Nice video* !

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey it is a unique, attention-grabbing kit, for sure! You're absolutely right. Put good heads on just about any kit, and it's very possible to get a good sound. And yes...practicing is also a very good thing:) Thanks!

  • @ImTheJoker4u
    @ImTheJoker4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently turned up a neighbors cheap kit - He was amazed by how much better it sounded. Just takes some time and a little know how😉👍

  • @Dbmiller19
    @Dbmiller19 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Personally I felt lile it sounded halfway decent at the beginning. Drum sound is (I forget the word) opinionated?

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. The beginning sound really wasn't terrible, and I was pleasantly surprised when I first sat down to play it. A decent sound right off the bat was encouraging, so I knew I could tweak things just a little to further improve the overall sound. I think the kick may have been the biggest quality difference before and after, in my opinion.

    • @Dbmiller19
      @Dbmiller19 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Clark definatley, a ringy kick throws everything off

    • @chasleask8533
      @chasleask8533 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Danny M. Subjective.

    • @georgeb6300
      @georgeb6300 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny M. Yeah I think the word you meant was 'subjective'

    • @douglastibbitts6817
      @douglastibbitts6817 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My opinion is that you ment to say subjective or a matter of taste .

  • @stevenwilson9865
    @stevenwilson9865 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great tune job makes all the difference. Finding the right drumheads for a particular kit can help also.

  • @Edelweiss1102
    @Edelweiss1102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, I really like the "no bs" approach. There are so many "how to make x $ drums sound good" where they throw in new heads worth 500$, cymbals worth 3000$ and recording equipement worth 10000$ ..., yeah. Granted you threw in K customs too, but it was the only thing and you said "with what I have", so it counts xD. And yeah, it proves you can make cheap drums sound good with some tuning and decent cymbals.

  • @MeowfaceMusic
    @MeowfaceMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any recommendation for making an old, warped shell circle again? Is there a quick n' dirty method? Thanks!

  • @racefrazier7998
    @racefrazier7998 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Gretsch renown with Paiste signatures and HHX and an SP Cheep kit (250 bucks) with Paiste PST cymbals. I take the cheap stuff to shady bar gigs. Good heads and good tuning makes the SP kit sound great.

  • @ThePsho
    @ThePsho 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. Goes to show that the three most important things about a good drum set are:
    1. The drummer
    2. The quality/tuning of the heads
    3. The cymbals
    I bought a full 5-pc junk set off Craigslist for $40. Came with a brand new throne (which I needed a new one anyway) that was valued at $80. I removed all the brand labels and logos, painted the rims white and the hardware black, and slapped on an Evans Rock pack of ebony heads. When people come up to me at shows and ask what brand of drums they are because they like the sound, I tell them I found them by a dumpster behind Walmart 😂 It's kind of my coy way of telling them that brands don't matter at much as they think.

    • @timbretrent113
      @timbretrent113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a similar story bought a rusty old 5 piece and ripped off the wrinkled nasty wraps, scrubbed all the rust off the hoops and screws and lugs, took me hours. Rewrapped them with some sparkly paper and got new heads. I subbed out the snare for my old 70's Acrolite. I did find out the shells are DX series Pearls from the 80's with the power toms though, and now they sound absolutely killer. lol The heads cost 2x more than the shells haha

  • @kasonpowers6587
    @kasonpowers6587 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, just wanted to say I love the channel so far. You get the info across well, and have a likeable personality. Great job, keep it up!

  • @Javisphotos
    @Javisphotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Zero dollar budget”
    *completely replaces drum heads*

  • @nickgivent3157
    @nickgivent3157 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I have an old pearl sound check. It sounded great bc I changed all the heads, batter and resonant both, and cleaned it all up. Now it’s sounds like ass, but I don’t have any money for new heads now. This video has inspired me to talked them all off, clean it up, and put them back on and tune. Here’s hoping 🤞...

  • @steeezyjoey
    @steeezyjoey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You can make any cheap budget drum kit sound beautiful, but you just need some good heads and fine tuning at times.

  • @jasonholt2553
    @jasonholt2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did the same, bought a cheap peace drum kit, put evans ec2 heads on it and sounds better than now than before, it had cheap original skins on it

  • @poser_disposer
    @poser_disposer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played a gig a couple months ago where I assumed I would just need my breakables, but no drummer was willing to share drums. I live in a suburb 20 minutes outside the city, and 30 minutes from the jam space/venue, so I couldn't go back and get my kit. There was a very shitty kit at our jam space that I could borrow, so I drove back and got it and the kick was alright, but the toms sounded awful, and thw floor tom had no resonant head. I completely detuned and retuned the rack tom several times before it sounded decent, but both heads were extremely wore out, and the floor tom I just tuned once as low as I could get it where it would ring. It still sounded fairly bad mic'd, the notes were sour on both toms, but I just used my toms where I had to, and stuck to snare rolls, and the gig went great.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like a scenario where you actually had to adjust your playing to the kit itself. That's a frustrating situation, where you're having to work around things that don't sound so great. At the same time, that's a great skill to have - especially if you play on a lot of house kits.

  • @johnguelfo4840
    @johnguelfo4840 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    at marker 6:30...WHAT IS THIS CALLED THAT YOU ARE PLAYING....Am having trouble with this and I dont know what to ask for help on because I dont know the name...

  • @Grinix0
    @Grinix0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes me want to get back into drumming. i remember being like 14 and had my parents buy me a cheap ass set that i could just not get tuned right. back in the 2000s it was harder to find info online than it is today and had i actually had money i would of bought one of those drum dials. man that set used to sound like so much ass and it caused me an immense amount of frustration that i just couldnt get it to sound right no matter what i did, and i tried hard.

  • @beldar18
    @beldar18 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, what a nice channel you got here, thanks for the tips! I'm subscribing right now!

  • @KidKat__
    @KidKat__ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play in a school band. The drum kits we have are all out of tune, and I'm definitely gonna look into it after seeing you do it.

  • @TantraJames
    @TantraJames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was disappoint that you didn't use the original symbols. That's part of my cheap drum set that I would like some tips on improving.

  • @KPsychRN
    @KPsychRN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crazy. I once rewrapped an old Pacific drum set in zebra print for a youth group in town. You didn’t happen to pick those up in Washington State, did you? Pretty sure I did a better job of keeping the fabric off of the bearing edges, though.

  • @kevinkendall3122
    @kevinkendall3122 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool,simple & straightforward tips.Great vid

  • @jmb92555
    @jmb92555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big difference on the FT and snare. The kick is more a matter of taste but it was definitely tuned better. The mounted tom... I didn't notice a big difference. Bottom line, I've heard many worse sounding kits on youtube that were intermediate to pro level drums played by drummers who seemed experienced enough to tune drums adequately. I just like the sound of those drums for whatever reason lol. I've owned everything from an unknown brand blue sparkle garage sale kit to 80's birch Tama Superstar to Mapex Saturn maple/walnut to vintage Ludwig 3 ply Classics. These drums have a lot of the old school Ludwig sound. Thanks for posting this.

  • @oinkooink
    @oinkooink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. To change a kick drum sound can you stuff it with towels? How do you get them in there if there's no hole? Do you unlug one side and take the skin off then pile them in?

  • @pedrofeio4430
    @pedrofeio4430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy never blinks his eyes!

  • @violao206
    @violao206 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:40 sounds like the groove to Elvis Costello's "This Year's Girl"

  • @747h2
    @747h2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Stephen. Q, How do I make some very old top hat Zildjan cymbals a crispy sound? Phil
    I play mostly early beatles and cover my heads with fabric for more of a studio sound too...

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful and interesting - my brother bought my young son a cheap kit for his birthday and it doesn't sound great. The cymbals are awful (might as well be using hubcabs) so I'm going to get him some (slightly) better ones for Christmas, but these are some good tips for drums themselves too. I should probably spend a few hours learning how to tune drums (I'm a guitarist, so if it lacks strings, I haven't a clue)

  • @brianphillips9152
    @brianphillips9152 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kick improved greatly. Thanks for this.

  • @noahferguson3540
    @noahferguson3540 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Mapex Venus kit that was in a storage unit for years. The shell wraps have cracked and split. There was a mouse nest and god awful smell when I removed the kick drum head. It was so bad I had to throw it out of the house then shop-vac'd the mouse turds out of there. Still has a slight mousy smell, but not so bad now. I'm planning to replace the heads. The hardware has some corrosion. But hey, at least it's a kit.

  • @KirkHMiller
    @KirkHMiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was gifted my neighbor’s kit in almost the same condition (luckily not as much rust). I was wanting to experiment with it because I had nothing to lose. I wanted to see what thinner shells (like a pancake kit) did to the sound. So I stripped it down to the maple and cut the toms to 12x6 and 14x10. The kick is about 22x12. I tried to keep a consistent bearing edge. It doesn’t have as much punch but it also doesn’t sound bad by any measure! I think will play it at my next small-room gig!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I actually prefer the sound of the snare before the adjustment. But that's just my opinion.

  • @timsears6129
    @timsears6129 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have always said if you know what you are doing you CAN make a cheap kit sound pretty good.....this was proof....thanks...

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Tim!

    • @timsears6129
      @timsears6129 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome Stephen , I really enjoy your channel..

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I appreciate it.

    • @renedominguez4623
      @renedominguez4623 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...that tone from the shells still shines through regardless. point being it still sounds like crap to my ears... never understood why people say these things...

  • @miguels008
    @miguels008 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you channel is one of my favorites with drumeo and rdavidr

  • @STIXAHOY
    @STIXAHOY 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you have a phenomenal touch........im sure a guy like u will sound great on any kit
    Even buckets

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What size is that rack? They look huge? What cymbals do you have there? Nice job. I liked how the snare sounded originally as well

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It all comes down to personal preference, but I liked the snare's original sound a lot, too.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know, I actually had a feeling a lot of people would like the higher snare tuning. It really is so much personal preference... The rack is 13"x13" I believe. The usual 13" rack and 16" floor configuration, which I usually find to be my favorite. So maybe not huge...but bigger (and bigger sounding) than a 12" and 14" for sure. The cymbals were Zildjian K custom darks, which I really like. They're dark but have a nice shimmer, and they record well and sound great in small rooms.

    • @guitarofdestiny
      @guitarofdestiny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The stripes make your rack look fat.

  • @Nollaroid
    @Nollaroid 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this video! Fun and informative!

  • @brianortiz2200
    @brianortiz2200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always do this when I play in churches old Kit's come back to life !!!
    South Texas ✌️

  • @jeroenfigee
    @jeroenfigee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds great !!
    professional tuning.
    Only miss a little biy extra : recording the cymbals and hihat with some AKG's. Rest sounds amazing !

  • @mal2ksc
    @mal2ksc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like both the rack tom and snare could be tuned higher, but aside from that (which is admittedly very subjective), this was a pretty good result.

  • @ArsalanHaiderAli
    @ArsalanHaiderAli 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought myself a 7 piece (3 rack and two floor toms) Pacific Drums Kit. It was priced down from £995 to £595 because of a scratch on the bass drum. The money saved was then used to upgrade the hardware and skins. I switched out the metal lug washers with nylon ones by a company called hendrix drums, replaced the triple flanged hoops with "S-hoops" made by a company called Ahead (primarily known for their aluminium drumsticks) The "S hoops" are worth checking out the are a cross between die-cast and triple flanged. The kit sounds so much better with them. I also the replaced the poor quality wooden bass drum hoops with metal ones I bought from ebay. However the resonant bass drum hoop has begun to show signs of rust despited the bass drum being in a carrying case. QUESTION: what should I do to eliminate the rust and prevent further rusting on any other part of the kit?. Could you also give tips on how to store a drum kit when not in use? Is it OK to pile up two or three toms on top of the bass drums?. Thanks

  • @davelaff2425
    @davelaff2425 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for the info

  • @jimflys2
    @jimflys2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It may go on a Nashville record. Sound and effect is the important thing. Russ Kunkel used a box for a kick drum sound on a well known song on Jackson Browne's l.p. Running on Empty. Or was it a drum case....? One of the better kick sounds out there.

  • @davidchapman3563
    @davidchapman3563 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much better!.sounds like an ok practice kit.good job bud

  • @fransterhorst3694
    @fransterhorst3694 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    another awesome vid. goes to show that same as with cheap guitars, it's all about the setup and tuning. cheers!

  • @yep-that-happened
    @yep-that-happened 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm working on an old aluminum shell Slingerland snare that was in really rough shape. This thing was super rusty and crusty, it looked like it got dropped in the ocean. I have most of the hardware cleaned, all that's left is to pound somd dents out of the shell.

    • @bryand7005
      @bryand7005 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or pound a whole bunch more and just make it fairly even. Hammered snares rock!

  • @RudolfByker
    @RudolfByker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Was something clipping around 7:46 ?

    • @TheMusicalMedic
      @TheMusicalMedic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rudolf Byker sounds like a mic wiggling, we used to have that problem with our old drum kit, it'd make a weird growling/ clipping sound when our drummer hit certain toms.

  • @michaelscafe2818
    @michaelscafe2818 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The snare sounded good before. Not so much after. I agree with the comment that suggested that you moved the basement sound from the kick to the snare. Might as well play a phone book as a snare

  • @ronaldzeoli7528
    @ronaldzeoli7528 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just pull the screws and all the hardware and clean them . that kit will be just fine. Maybe cut the rack tom length down and put a new bearing edge on it and redrill for the lugs. What brand was it?.

  • @MikeBerbano
    @MikeBerbano 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought it sounded fairly decent from the beginning especially the snare, nice. the cloth on the bearing edge was a big hinderance to the optimum sound.
    proper tuning does wonders for any kit. i recall walking into guitar center and playing a DW Collectors that sounded horrible only becuz of poor tuning. an adjacent SP kit w poplar shells sounded better becuz of proper tuning

  • @modestbill
    @modestbill 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I was about to give my kit a fresh new face by adding a layer of vinyl on the toms, snare and bass drumm, so you don't recommend it? I measured the pieces and the stickers will be like gloves accurate, do you reckon it will affect very badly to the kit? It's a yamaha stage custom. Great video btw, thanks for the work!!

  • @DaveCooperCreative
    @DaveCooperCreative 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just came across the video. What's the difference in the rusty hardware on the floor tom (other than the obvious of having rusty hardware)?

  • @soserchristianguitar9202
    @soserchristianguitar9202 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, master. A little question... poplar shells? Thank's

  • @EarthtonesCymbals
    @EarthtonesCymbals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am just here to make sure everyone is having a good time.

  • @adorodrums
    @adorodrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    truth is - sure you can make a cheap kit sound good on a recording. But certainly a good kit will sound way better acoustically (and recorded, too). The reason why many drummers think cheap drums are not such a drag is simply because when mic'ing any drum, you already enhance the sound a lot, plus, most nouances are lost anyway - as we are used to mic' drums close, not acoustically. By acoustically i mean mic'ing the set from a few feet away to get them recorded the way they actually sound in the room, not an inch away close to the head. The latter causes proximity effect, which means a boost in low end, plus compression and limiting, the drums instantly sound more pleasent, even with the cheapest mic.
    You will notice that any instrument wil get pretty cheap once you do not use it acoustic. I always wanted to get a double bass (upright bass, not two kicks...), and did the mistake to ask a classical musician how much a cheap bass would be - he told me you can get a decent cheap bass for 16k used. Uffa. Way out of my range. Then I met a jazz band with upright bass, and ask the bass player. He said he bought the bass for $450 at Thomann and just put new strings on it, and he is happy. Now, what is the difference? As soon as you amplify the instrument, it is not acoustic anymore, so a lot of things that matter for an acoustic instrument can be handled fairly easy by enhancing the sound with the sound board, eq'ing, compressing etc - something every bass amp by default will offer. So the amplifier will sure end up being the most expansive piece in your signal chain when you want a good sound.
    This is also true for drums. Heck, most drum sets are even cheaper than a single mic used to pick them up; a set of drum mics easily cost a multipe.
    What I want to say is, face it, drums - rock drums, to be precise - are NOT an acoustic instrument. You will always get away with sounding mediocre because sound engineers are used to "fix it in the mix" with drums. Heck, most drummers cannot even tune.

  • @mzambo666
    @mzambo666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very useful. Thank you

  • @danielreily2701
    @danielreily2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you make a drum set sound sensational when you don't know what a sensational sound is ? Can I suggest a listen to "Beatit Vintage Test 90's Fibes Drum Kit" , use headphones and that is a good reference point. It is subjective though I like a wide open big resonant sound and through a big sound system /PA you feel as well as hear. Also it the zebra cloth is removed it would help that kit .

  • @skylukewalker1210
    @skylukewalker1210 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    BUT. Can you make cheap cymbals sound Good. LOL. Hahahaha.

    • @numberneinlarge9965
      @numberneinlarge9965 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Luke Her Depends. Are you talking new cymbals that are cheap, or used cymbals that are cheap. Because I know where to get used A Custom crashes for $100.
      Psst, it's Guitar Center.

    • @skylukewalker1210
      @skylukewalker1210 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I more like dirt cheap. Like a full set of cymbals for $100. LOL. I was kinda being Sarcastic tho.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You can if you reconfigure your musical taste and learn to like metallic/tootrashy/overlyringy/innapropriatelyloud cymbals haha. Cymbals of that variety run pretty cheap. But besides altering your ears...I guess you could always re-lathe a cymbal. There are some guys out there who do that.

    • @harmonic5107
      @harmonic5107 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephen Clark it's actually not a hard process. But you need a good lathe and a specialized chuck. But in a pinch, you can use a friction bowl chuck and reinforce your tool rest with a 45 degree drake block and use a less great lathe to do it.

    • @harmonic5107
      @harmonic5107 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Clark though.... anyone can use sandpaper. Just tack the cymbal in place with hot glue on the bottom and put it on any rotating surface. Or just send on a flat surface, bit harder though. And you will lose the cool lines XD

  • @AllHailZeppelin
    @AllHailZeppelin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the buzzing sound that starts at 7:45? A mic rattling?

  • @SilentRiotz69
    @SilentRiotz69 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I have a older kit with no bass drum head for the front of the bass drum is that a bad thing ? My dad bought it from a church. The screws and bolts are rusted so what could I do to make it sound good ?

  • @stevendavid9430
    @stevendavid9430 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u show how u do that at 6:28 in a lesson or slow mo pls? Thanks.

  • @mandilkhatiwada5667
    @mandilkhatiwada5667 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, your videos helps me a lot.

  • @wolfgangbuck841
    @wolfgangbuck841 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dude, what do U recommend getting for a small office/home as in the Equipment For Recording?
    Like, a basic barebones office Studio. Mixer? Eq?Recorder?Basic Synthesizer? Mics?
    I've got drums and all other instruments and laptops. Gonna do a little mash ups, originals and other electronic music as welk as all and integrated percussion and strings.

  • @timbobimbo22
    @timbobimbo22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    do you blink? ps nice vid

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I edit out every blink. Lol. Actually I have no idea...hadn't noticed that, but I'm glad you guys are observant :)

    • @danny-jo1rb
      @danny-jo1rb 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      3:26

    • @hacker8253
      @hacker8253 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's a reptile....

    • @bananacakesmckanzee7290
      @bananacakesmckanzee7290 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      8:52

  • @TheLuciferJesus
    @TheLuciferJesus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video!
    I have one constructive criticism:
    The head of your sm57 on the floor tom is rattling. putting it on a separate mic stand instead of clipping it to the drum usually can fix that problem. There are also ways people have secured it, but using tape can mess up its cardioid pattern.

  • @Luemm3l
    @Luemm3l 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually a big difference ! I wanted to ask if it is possible that you do a video on how to record, mix and master drums ? Pardon if that topic is already covered in another video, I'm new to the channel.

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would make for a great video series! Haven't done it yet, but that's definitely something to consider for future video ideas. Thanks for the request!

  • @poputafavian-ioel5626
    @poputafavian-ioel5626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once I had one hour to make a 200$kit with "no name" heads sound playable, trust me that zebra kit sounds really good with some new heads, muffle rings and good EQ

  • @scottfreeman5334
    @scottfreeman5334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok what about a cheap Mark2 kit w/o reso's on 12 13 toms i use moongel to hold back the overtone ringing but its almost like it kills the whole sound like a cardboard box how can I get the right amount of ring/tone? I got the kit for 25 bucks and put evens g2s on the toms and fl tom hoping that they would (yes $45 heads on a $25 kit lol) help to no avail? Would it be best to just buy another kit or should I invest in some lugs and rings for them? Also I just began learning & I only play in my garage by myself but would like to start recording because I do play bass and a lil guitar

  • @MikeyIsDeath
    @MikeyIsDeath 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome channel dude! I was wondering if you could just give a quick list of the mics and preamps you’re using, I can only see a SM57, and any rooms?

    • @sccdrum93
      @sccdrum93  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, man! I had SM57s on snare and toms, and a beta52 on the kick. I was using an old Tascam handheld recorder as the room mic (it has a built-in stereo condenser, which makes it a very natural room mic). Wasn't running any actual overheads here - just the room mic sitting a few feet from the kit. No real preamps either, since everything's just running into a Tascam US1800 usb interface I was using. It's got built in pre's, but definitely nothing special. So my recording rig here may have been as cheap as the drum set haha!

    • @MikeyIsDeath
      @MikeyIsDeath 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Clark wow, you got a really nice sound from that setup either way. Thanks for the speedy reply! Cheers!

  • @CianRourke
    @CianRourke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concerning the kick you stated “Generally you have to have some kind of muffling on the head even if you don’t have something inside” though you didn’t give any basis why. To my ears the kick after placing the pillow inside. I like the kick to ring a little just like a drum should. It would be great for you to make a video of a properly tuned kick without muffling versus with muffling. Just like the tone of a snare drum is subjective.