The lead singer was Ian Curtis. Eighteen months after having been diagnosed with epilepsy, he committed suicide in 1980 at the age of 23 years. Ian Curtis had frequent epileptic seizures on stage. On stage, Ian Curtis waved his arms in a way that can be interpreted as mimicking an epileptic seizure. The band remained themselves New Order after his death. Other songs to check out by Joy Division: Love Will Tear Us apart and Disorder. For New Order : Blue Monday ,Thieves Like Us, and Bizzare Love Triangle. Congratulations on hitting 60k 🎊
Ceremony as well, because its one of the songs Ian wrote months before his death. Theres also 2 Versions of this Song. Version 1 is with Ian singing and the other one is by the other bandmates after they formed New Order
First video I watch of you guys and I already know she's the cool one, this song is one of their few singles and definitely one of the popier and catchier ones. You read the vibes right tho but your interpreting them wrong, after a stressful day, it's a wednesday night and you're feeling annoyed, this is the only song that will make you dance alone in the dark, it's the only song with the amount of energy needed to pick you up on a day like that. Also this is post-punk, it's basically moody and darker punk it's not supposed to sound like sledgehammer at all, it´s meant to be the opposite, so they nailed it.
Lol..they 😅 are both right. Its Goth post-punk music. Dance music for alternative crowd. 🌙 🌔 Its dark. Listen to Shadowplay next. Lot of goth vocals do sound like vamperic Bowie lol.
It's one of the greatest tracks in UK new wave / punk rock of teenage disintegration. You're girl friend got it's vibe but hey you didn't have to live in working class England in the late 70s. The whole thing about JD? Gnostic - God is evil. Not your vibe. He hanged himself.
You gotta read up on the group I feel to know what they were about. It’s too much for me to explain here. But usually you guys are a united team here and I’m kind of shocked that your wife liked it cuz I was ignorant in thinking both of you would not like it. But I’m glad she liked it,there one of my favorite bands. Check love will tear us apart but also check the lyrics to these songs. And I would’ve thought you would dig the drummers skills hear them again and on all he’s songs. I think he’s one of the best drummers in the world.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 I think these guys maybe shouldn’t be compared to Peter Gabriel or Bowie, very different and only a few similarities. They were doing gigs in a time when punk was starting and when it started to become mainstream but personally I feel they were a side product of their society and the live music scene that came from that, like The Clash and The Damned. I love these guys and I grew up with New Order so it kinda lent itself to me liking it. I like the reaction.
"Maybe it's because I'm comparing him to other singers close to this era". Not maybe. That's ABSOLUTELY the reason why you didn't hear it for what it is. That, and comparing to singers from COMPLETELY different genres. Like, apples and oranges different.
Joy Division is a gem and Ian Curtis was a genius. You want more gems like this, try Dead Souls, She's lost control, The Eternal, Disorder, No love lost, Day of the lords, Love will tear us apart and so on...
This is goth music. Goth isn’t a happy & flowers pop music. Joy Division, Bauhaus, The Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Damned are classic GOTH music.
yeh ur wife is right dude this is 1 of the greatest bands of all times but you just need to get used to them....... although you should check out the live version from the factory manchester 1980 if you want to hear a berserk live version of this ........itll knock yer socks off !!!!!
Don't bother reacting to Joy Division unless it's a live performance, Ian's live performance and gyration is always a crowd pleaser. Been a Joy Division fan since 1985 when I got into New Order and had to back track and been hooked ever since, it's a vibe thing if you don't feel it you dont feel it
Jeez - listening to Joy Division , one of the pioneers of post punk and goth - hugely influential in those genres, and expecting David Bowie or Peter Gabriel.......they're worlds apart.
The sound of Manchester .Early industrial music. There are a couple of good movies on the band and Ian Curtis tragic battle with epilepsy long before they had any real way to treat it..... Eventually he ended it by taking his life.. The band without its lead singer recreated itself and to become the ENORMOUSLY successful NEW ORDER....worth a few more listens, they are a bit of an acquired taste,. Raw, minimal and in their own way brilliant Songs: Isolation, Shadow Play, love will tear us apart again. And New Order's Blue Monday
Bass like no other and Ian Curtis's voice is amazing - after Ian's death Joy Division became New Order and history was made. This is between punk and dance music. Check out "Love will tear us apart" and then "Blue Monday" and hopefully you'll get the transition the only other bands I can liken them to is Talking Heads or Kraftwerk. I'm definitely with Dee. ♡
She's right but thanks for giving this song a shot! I'm sure it's befuddling the first time you hear it but they were so minimalist, cranking out 2 chord songs that were really solid. Look for Disorder as another really good song from them. Their studio recordings always sounded really ethereal, and their live stuff feels really different. Peter Hook, their bassist, still performs the material, and I saw him live in Sep 2022, here's a link to the same song: th-cam.com/video/VYD2r3cU7gA/w-d-xo.html
Bro, it’s Post-Punk/early Goth and with most Joy Division songs, they tend to have more a darker feeling to them. You are looking/listening to this song with today’s view/hears without realizing the world was a pretty dark in 1979-1980 since we were inches away from nuclear war with the Soviet Union. To be fully honest, I’m mixed Black and White and in the late 1970s to now, I’m mainly into R&B, Early Hip Hop, jazz, but in the late 1980s , I started to listening more to other music categories to include Post Punk and 1980s New Wave. It took me a few listenings to Joy Division to really get into them myself. So, give them a chance and listen to their Disorder song!!
This isn't a favorite of mine, I do like them. Ian Curtis' singing is very unique, kinda monotone and if you could see him on film, you would probably be fascinated - He has very intense eyes and his body language is weird in a Joe Cocker sort of way. It's hard to look away from him. And of course he has a VERY tragic story ending. I also like the songs "Shadow play" and "Love will tear Us Apart" ❤
This song came out in 1979 - much earlier than Peter Gabriel and Bowie as you are thinking of it. Joy Division was an emergent punk/goth band that is considered by many to be one of the most innovative bands of their time and is often referenced as inspiration
In all their glory, however their songs may affect you, if you listen to more than half an hour of Joy Division and Ian Curtis, you will have what you need, love or not love. No one ever said that love would be easy.
Great reaction. Joy Division was one of the most important, influential bands to come out of the post-punk era. Ian Curtis was gone much too soon. I suggest 'Love will Tear Us Apart' as the next song to react to. I still have the 12" single from 1980.
Your thinking of "pop" music. Ian's vocals were influenced a lot by Jim Morrison & Iggy Pop. I don't think it was a natural singing voice for him though, & probably would have changed had he lived longer .
Joy Division is one of the most original bands ever, due in large part to Ian Curtis. Curtis' lyrics were, at once, personal and universal, and Joy Division songs are the shit, every freaking one of them. But even after Curtis died and the band became New Order, their popularity didn't shrink. New Order is one of the top bands heard in the 80's and later dance clubs. New Order's 'Blue Monday' is the top selling 12" single of all time.
Dude, you are wrong and she has every right to tell you so. Your idea of music and art is clearly very one dimensional and with a bit of luck your lady will one day find her intellectual equal. This was also years before sledgehammer
Of course what other people said, plus you guys should really research the reason why this band and other bands like this were getting a platform, with such monotone vocals. At the end of the 70s in in the UK and US there was a movement called post-modern punk where young people went past being angry (punk) and transitioned into nihlism (the post-modern part) where some had given up. The economies were really bad in both countries at the time, Europe had endured years of political unrest, good jobs were hard to come by for young adults, and this type of music was an expression of direct and indirect dread they were feeling about the future of the planet, manifested in the microcosmic narratives of their own lives.
Joy Division is a band that influenced many other bands. Both of you are entitled to your own interpretation of the song. I personally side with Chod, because I've listen to some other songs by them and watched a movie about Ian Curtis. He had epilepsy and suffered from depression. He committed suicide. The remaining band members went on to form New Order, which Chod has reacted to. I don't know if Joy Division has a happy song. I do think it is worth listening to more of them, because they influenced others.
No, you clearly do not know about THIS era..this was forever before sledgehammer. This is 70s. Sledgehammer, a very cringe song was deep into the 80s. You really couldn't be more wrong on any level. But kudos, the worst reaction I've ever seen to JD, then again you have got the classic pic of Mike behind you. But your girls digs it. And that means she's on a different intellectual level to you dude. My 10 year marriage basically broke up and one of our biggest differences was joy division. She hated them and loved Michael Jackson. We are now no more.
It’s funny, I think he’s more right about the song vibe than she is, but she got the music and he didn’t. It is depressed and dancing like Wednesday music - Joy Division are one of the roots of goth rock, so Wednesday probably loves them; and they are not at all afraid to look at the depressing side of life. That’s kind of their thing.
Well i tink Chod is right......this is NOT dance music....and i'm a JOY Div fan....another JD song thats good...Day of the Lords, or New Dawn Fades.....definitely NOT Love will tear us apart.
Joy division were the original emo band , industrial punk. No future, no hope, suicidal tendencies,gloom and doom. They spoke for the downtrodden Northerners, and Mancunians Still a popular band with emo fans and industrial punk fans
Jim Morrison is the closest vocally . Usually you start with “Love will Tear us apart “ Joy Division /New Order and Wire and Killing Joke are 3 of a kind . Wire are still making great albums 45 years later
To a certain age group in the UK Joy Division are and always will be gods, RIP Ian
And to a few of us Yanks as well.
@@craiger991gm Quite a few of us indeed.
One of few bands that ever mattered.
No one does the human condition like JD
❤Joy Division/New Order are among the greatest bands of all time. TOP TIER.
The lead singer was Ian Curtis.
Eighteen months after having been diagnosed with epilepsy, he committed suicide in 1980 at the age of 23 years. Ian Curtis had frequent epileptic seizures on stage. On stage, Ian Curtis waved his arms in a way that can be interpreted as mimicking an epileptic seizure.
The band remained themselves New Order after his death.
Other songs to check out by Joy Division: Love Will Tear Us apart and Disorder.
For New Order : Blue Monday ,Thieves Like Us, and Bizzare Love Triangle.
Congratulations on hitting 60k 🎊
Ceremony as well, because its one of the songs Ian wrote months before his death. Theres also 2 Versions of this Song. Version 1 is with Ian singing and the other one is by the other bandmates after they formed New Order
And Shadowplay
She's right. Joy Division are pioneers, sone great songwriting from Ian Curtis.
I feel like I'm depressed 😂 Jeez. It's called reality.
They are one of the greatest and most influential bands of all time, end of.
"Yes Sir" I agree!!!
"Decades" by Joy Division is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.
She’s right. Save your battles for another day.
Poor dumb guy
Stop thinking of Peter Gabriel hahaha
"She's Lost Control" is another great track from Joy Division
First video I watch of you guys and I already know she's the cool one, this song is one of their few singles and definitely one of the popier and catchier ones. You read the vibes right tho but your interpreting them wrong, after a stressful day, it's a wednesday night and you're feeling annoyed, this is the only song that will make you dance alone in the dark, it's the only song with the amount of energy needed to pick you up on a day like that. Also this is post-punk, it's basically moody and darker punk it's not supposed to sound like sledgehammer at all, it´s meant to be the opposite, so they nailed it.
You should watch the live version of this.
Lol..they 😅 are both right. Its Goth post-punk music. Dance music for alternative crowd. 🌙 🌔
Its dark. Listen to Shadowplay next. Lot of goth vocals do sound like vamperic Bowie lol.
It's one of the greatest tracks in UK new wave / punk rock of teenage disintegration. You're girl friend got it's vibe but hey you didn't have to live in working class England in the late 70s. The whole thing about JD? Gnostic - God is evil. Not your vibe. He hanged himself.
sorry dude but she’s right 😀,it’s classic stuff from manchester uk.
r.i.p. ian curtis
You gotta read up on the group I feel to know what they were about. It’s too much for me to explain here. But usually you guys are a united team here and I’m kind of shocked that your wife liked it cuz I was ignorant in thinking both of you would not like it. But I’m glad she liked it,there one of my favorite bands. Check love will tear us apart but also check the lyrics to these songs. And I would’ve thought you would dig the drummers skills hear them again and on all he’s songs. I think he’s one of the best drummers in the world.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 I think these guys maybe shouldn’t be compared to Peter Gabriel or Bowie, very different and only a few similarities. They were doing gigs in a time when punk was starting and when it started to become mainstream but personally I feel they were a side product of their society and the live music scene that came from that, like The Clash and The Damned. I love these guys and I grew up with New Order so it kinda lent itself to me liking it. I like the reaction.
"Maybe it's because I'm comparing him to other singers close to this era". Not maybe. That's ABSOLUTELY the reason why you didn't hear it for what it is. That, and comparing to singers from COMPLETELY different genres. Like, apples and oranges different.
Joy Division is a gem and Ian Curtis was a genius. You want more gems like this, try Dead Souls, She's lost control, The Eternal, Disorder, No love lost, Day of the lords, Love will tear us apart and so on...
She’s right ❤
Im at her party. Love Joy Division♡
❤"She's Lost Control" & "Love Will TEar Us Apart"
Total trend setters pure raw music headed by Curtis dark vocals.
This is goth music. Goth isn’t a happy & flowers pop music.
Joy Division, Bauhaus, The Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Damned are classic GOTH music.
Joy division one of the best post punk bands ever Rip Ian Curtis
yeh ur wife is right dude this is 1 of the greatest bands of all times but you just need to get used to them....... although you should check out the live version from the factory manchester 1980 if you want to hear a berserk live version of this ........itll knock yer socks off !!!!!
Joy Division best band ever
its well before sledgehammer.. This is when Punk went dark
Well, at least she gets it lmao
Don't bother reacting to Joy Division unless it's a live performance, Ian's live performance and gyration is always a crowd pleaser. Been a Joy Division fan since 1985 when I got into New Order and had to back track and been hooked ever since, it's a vibe thing if you don't feel it you dont feel it
"i feel like im depressed dancing to this" ooh. oh no.
Watch the live performance of this and you will get the intensity.
I kind of know Peter Hook (bassist), he signed various Joy Division vinyl, cds 💿 etc for me! top bloke!
R.I.P. Ian Curtis
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Shadowplay
It’s always been an awesome song.Try love will tear us apart.
Favourite Joy Division song.
Dance dance dance dance dance to the radio.
Jeez - listening to Joy Division , one of the pioneers of post punk and goth - hugely influential in those genres, and expecting David Bowie or Peter Gabriel.......they're worlds apart.
They used a Joy Division song for the blockbuster Dezel Washington called the Equalizer
Peter Gabriel 😂 Sledge hammer is a joke any way. Ain't a life style dance track.
You guys should’ve watched the live performance of the song honestly
The sound of Manchester .Early industrial music. There are a couple of good movies on the band and Ian Curtis tragic battle with epilepsy long before they had any real way to treat it..... Eventually he ended it by taking his life.. The band without its lead singer recreated itself and to become the ENORMOUSLY successful NEW ORDER....worth a few more listens, they are a bit of an acquired taste,. Raw, minimal and in their own way brilliant Songs: Isolation, Shadow Play, love will tear us apart again. And New Order's Blue Monday
Bass like no other and Ian Curtis's voice is amazing - after Ian's death Joy Division became New Order and history was made. This is between punk and dance music. Check out "Love will tear us apart" and then "Blue Monday" and hopefully you'll get the transition the only other bands I can liken them to is Talking Heads or Kraftwerk. I'm definitely with Dee. ♡
I can only listen to Joy Division if I’m in the right mood. When I’m in the mood, it’s hypnotic.
She's right but thanks for giving this song a shot! I'm sure it's befuddling the first time you hear it but they were so minimalist, cranking out 2 chord songs that were really solid. Look for Disorder as another really good song from them. Their studio recordings always sounded really ethereal, and their live stuff feels really different. Peter Hook, their bassist, still performs the material, and I saw him live in Sep 2022, here's a link to the same song: th-cam.com/video/VYD2r3cU7gA/w-d-xo.html
Finally somebody say its not so good or my style!!!!!!!! Abo and thumb up!! 🙏🤟🙏
Bro, it’s Post-Punk/early Goth and with most Joy Division songs, they tend to have more a darker feeling to them. You are looking/listening to this song with today’s view/hears without realizing the world was a pretty dark in 1979-1980 since we were inches away from nuclear war with the Soviet Union. To be fully honest, I’m mixed Black and White and in the late 1970s to now, I’m mainly into R&B, Early Hip Hop, jazz, but in the late 1980s , I started to listening more to other music categories to include Post Punk and 1980s New Wave. It took me a few listenings to Joy Division to really get into them myself. So, give them a chance and listen to their Disorder song!!
This isn't a favorite of mine, I do like them. Ian Curtis' singing is very unique, kinda monotone and if you could see him on film, you would probably be fascinated - He has very intense eyes and his body language is weird in a Joe Cocker sort of way. It's hard to look away from him. And of course he has a VERY tragic story ending. I also like the songs "Shadow play" and "Love will tear Us Apart" ❤
I agree they should see him dancing.
Digital is another top song and was their first single.
This song came out in 1979 - much earlier than Peter Gabriel and Bowie as you are thinking of it. Joy Division was an emergent punk/goth band that is considered by many to be one of the most innovative bands of their time and is often referenced as inspiration
Much earlier than Bowie and Peter Gabriel? You are misinformed sir.
I have no idea how this gives you Peter Gabriel vibes.
In all their glory, however their songs may affect you,
if you listen to more than half an hour of Joy Division and Ian Curtis, you will have what you need, love or not love.
No one ever said that love would be easy.
❤ love will tear us apart is probably what you want to hear.
❤️❤️ I'm with you,it's got a cool vibe to it .And it feels vintage and fun .👍
Great reaction. Joy Division was one of the most important, influential bands to come out of the post-punk era. Ian Curtis was gone much too soon. I suggest 'Love will Tear Us Apart' as the next song to react to. I still have the 12" single from 1980.
Posuer exposed 😂
Your thinking of "pop" music. Ian's vocals were influenced a lot by Jim Morrison & Iggy Pop. I don't think it was a natural singing voice for him though, & probably would have changed had he lived longer .
Joy Division is one of the most original bands ever, due in large part to Ian Curtis. Curtis' lyrics were, at once, personal and universal, and Joy Division songs are the shit, every freaking one of them. But even after Curtis died and the band became New Order, their popularity didn't shrink. New Order is one of the top bands heard in the 80's and later dance clubs. New Order's 'Blue Monday' is the top selling 12" single of all time.
A couple of kids that could barely play that launched the whole goth scene in the late 70s
Dude, you are wrong and she has every right to tell you so. Your idea of music and art is clearly very one dimensional and with a bit of luck your lady will one day find her intellectual equal. This was also years before sledgehammer
It's basically pioneers of dark punk
Martin Hannett doesn't get enough credit for the production on this track.
my mechanic told me to watch this video
Of course what other people said, plus you guys should really research the reason why this band and other bands like this were getting a platform, with such monotone vocals. At the end of the 70s in in the UK and US there was a movement called post-modern punk where young people went past being angry (punk) and transitioned into nihlism (the post-modern part) where some had given up. The economies were really bad in both countries at the time, Europe had endured years of political unrest, good jobs were hard to come by for young adults, and this type of music was an expression of direct and indirect dread they were feeling about the future of the planet, manifested in the microcosmic narratives of their own lives.
Joy Division is a band that influenced many other bands. Both of you are entitled to your own interpretation of the song. I personally side with Chod, because I've listen to some other songs by them and watched a movie about Ian Curtis. He had epilepsy and suffered from depression. He committed suicide. The remaining band members went on to form New Order, which Chod has reacted to. I don't know if Joy Division has a happy song. I do think it is worth listening to more of them, because they influenced others.
Another band in the same style are The Sound. Active from 1979-1988 and fronted by Adrian Borland. RIP. Also Echo & The Bunnymen
No, you clearly do not know about THIS era..this was forever before sledgehammer. This is 70s. Sledgehammer, a very cringe song was deep into the 80s. You really couldn't be more wrong on any level. But kudos, the worst reaction I've ever seen to JD, then again you have got the classic pic of Mike behind you. But your girls digs it. And that means she's on a different intellectual level to you dude. My 10 year marriage basically broke up and one of our biggest differences was joy division. She hated them and loved Michael Jackson. We are now no more.
You two are superb ! I can't wait to see your review of The Eternal by Joy Division.
One of the most influential bands ever
It’s funny, I think he’s more right about the song vibe than she is, but she got the music and he didn’t.
It is depressed and dancing like Wednesday music - Joy Division are one of the roots of goth rock, so Wednesday probably loves them; and they are not at all afraid to look at the depressing side of life. That’s kind of their thing.
I think it was recorded in 1979
Listens to the lyrics rip ian curtis a true poet
He doesn't have.to give you Review Bowie he has his own style.
Joy Divions take on party was probably kicking some right back. Brilliant band however.Thanks!
You guys have to do the Swans next ...
Good idea, but if he's not liking Joy Division, good luck ...
you're both right
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Goth kings RIP Ian Curtis
One of my fav songs/band - That was painful to watch - Reaction is a reaction though..
You've both got ya opinions , no one's wrong...ya feel what ya feel...
Love will tear us apart or
Disorder
Well you got a lot of love for that you might like this here a little bit
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❤️ great reaction. You should listen tot Love Will tear us apart.
Try Digital or No Love Lost (Substance Album)
Check out late 70's Beach Boys Good Timin
Ian is supposed to make you feel something . If you don’t that is ok and listen to something else .- It’s ok
Well i tink Chod is right......this is NOT dance music....and i'm a JOY Div fan....another JD song thats good...Day of the Lords, or New Dawn Fades.....definitely NOT Love will tear us apart.
Check out Day of the Lords
Bro is too basic lol
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppp lol
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Joy division were the original emo band , industrial punk.
No future, no hope, suicidal tendencies,gloom and doom.
They spoke for the downtrodden Northerners, and Mancunians
Still a popular band with emo fans and industrial punk fans
first of all....this is the whitest song ever made.
Second, than you for reviewing respectfully
Nah. Joy Division is the best!
They invented emo
did they hell!
Peter Gabriel? sigh
Jim Morrison is the closest vocally . Usually you start with “Love will Tear us apart “ Joy Division /New Order and Wire and Killing Joke are 3 of a kind . Wire are still making great albums 45 years later
😂 no he isn't
Live version is much better
it really isn't
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