I did this awhile back bc my trucks were loose enough to where my whole truck fell off 😳. Really helps. It’s also hilarious when people ask to ride your board & throw down, only to find how loose your trucks really are.
This is a pretty common longboard bushing setup. Venom sells double cones as "super carve". I haven't regular skateboarded for a really long time, but you could do a ton of custom stuff w/ bushings. Riptide sells street bushing packs. You could do double cone, softer in the front truck, or do harder board side w/ softer road side cones. Endless combos.
Used to do this all the time back in the day. The in between is only take the bottom washer off, you don’t need it because the bottom bushing has enough surface area to sit on.
Yo if you bend your knees more when you skate you'll be 10x better no lie. Higher pop, better balance, board stays under you more easy. Seriously dude, try it out
Ishod skates Thunders which are not a flowy truck so the bushing hack is just changing the geometry to make the trucks more flowy. If you want a more flowy and turny setup then try a new pair of trucks like Aces then you dont have to go tinkering with the geometry of a truck, would be good to go at stock. Lol yea its fun to experiment and tinker to get set ups more personalized but yaa know just sayin.
Dude, you’ve improved SO MUCH since the last time I watched one of your videos like a year ago. Good luck on the dieting. I can tell you from experience, when you’re a big boy skater like I was, losing a lot of weight is like a cheat code for skating. Obviously you get better pop, but I found that my style got WAY smoother. And I rolled away a lot more on landings that weren’t perfect. I think maybe your body gets used to being top-heavy, so when you lose weight your body still tries to compensate for that extra missing weight. It’s like your sense of balance is overpowered. That was my experience anyways.
He lowered the truck but kept the turning ability with the 2 cone bushings . I have 149 thunders and I put ace low bushing in as well as the krux inverted kingpin conversion.. been doing this for 5 years. The ace trucks are bottom barrel and the top is cone
Also check out Ishod Wair's trucks. He skates smaller trucks than his board. Example: Board size 8.25 with Thunder 147 Trucks. You can see it in his latest video part. Lots of pros like Andrew Reynolds & Leo Romero do the same. Big board riding smaller trucks. I also seen risers on his trucks...
The big issue with this is with that bottom bushing being shorter it changes the geometry of the truck. The truck is going to sit titled inwards towards the center of your board and will put more pressure on the pivot cup. Definitely not the best thing for the trucks even if it feels good.
@Where's the curvature or cleavage? It's not just the pivot cup itself receiving extra pressure. It's the bottom of the hanger as well as the back of the baseplate and likely the kingpin as well. If it makes the trucks feel great for you or ishod or whoever, cool go ahead and do it. Just know it may lead to some earlier parts failures.
Dawg hearing all that makes me wonder what you ride cause I know Jack shit abt what’s a good set up. I just threw some indies on my shit and never looked back still feels comfortable but I’m interested in finding a better set up
@@Cnb132 honestly man ignorance is bliss. Just ride what you feel comfortable on. I made the mistake of learning all the weird physics and nuances of board size, truck differences, wheel size and shape. All it did was make me obsessively try new stuff. I'm still a shitty skateboarder haha.
Nice content and discovery! I bought some months ago new indies bushings. Can't remember how/why, they were like the ones in the vid, top bushings only. I admit I did not pay attention, but just liked it. It's been 3 months I have them and I really like this way, much better to me than classic bushings when it comes to feeling confortable on your board moreover when you like having a nice turning on the streets...Thanks for the vid!!
Wow you're getting really good man,great to see your progression! Btw how about a tyshawn jones or nick tucker video(probably something about switch flips or popping higher)?
I just thought about the concept of your videos. First of all, I enjoy them very much. I had this idea that you may not only change the setup of your skateboard for a video (in this case) but also change the style. For example if some skater does huge drops on a specific board setup, it would be nice to see if it helps YOU when hitting a (smaller) drop. Just an idea. Nice vid and make every day a Friday 🤙 Ps: sorry if my english is a little bit skuffed😅
eventually your board will be like a total melting of like 100 pro's life hacks. i think the two top bushings also makes the trucks lower and have a shorter wheel base. also if you're dieting buy lots of healthy groceries that take a bit of effort to eat. when i eat really bad it's because i have 5 bags of 3d doritos in my bedroom where i can just graze instead of eating real food.
What is it with pros and super loose tricks? Is it sort of like learning ping pong with spatula so when you use a real paddle it will feel like the size of texas? In the context of skateboarding I guess that would be your sense of balance?
Just use the normal bushings and try to remove the bottom cup of the bushing i think that's what nyjah do just try it that's what i do for almost 2 years
Do I need to try this to understand? My trucks are loose enough with the normal bushings for my front to only turn the board when I'm pushing? Someone please elaborate
And in the next video you have to skate a whole ishod board :D he skates thunder 147 on a 8.3 or something:D and did you ever skated a twin tail board? Love your videos Much love from germany 🙏❤️
Love your content man, I was watching a few of your old videos, and then skipped to this one. Your progress is phenomenal!! Love the videos man keep the good vibes rolling
found this cuz i use 2 bottom bushings but i saw some 90s japanese trucks by GUS and they had some really weird hourglass looking bushings on the bottom it looked like 2 top bushings facing against eachother so it was skinny in the middle so i want to try putting 2 top bushings on the bottom of my trucks to try and replicate it but i'm scared that they will break or something cuz im really heavy i'll update this comment after experimenting
I don't know , ishod has a certain look on a board that is not copyable by most skaters. hes tall and slender first of all so he looks and skates completely different. what works for him i don't see working for most average skaters.
@@lazyk1751 depends what you skate... I go through kingpins about as often as I go through decks. and they're not only annoying to replace, but it's not "fun" to replace like a deck is, ya know?
bro joe im sure ur a nice kid but respectfully, you are not seshing even a 1/4 of ishod in two weeks LMAOOOOOOO my homie russ knows ishod personally and skated with ishod on the same skate shop and told me ishod skated till 2 am damn near everyday, the man is FIEND for skating hahahaha but I like how you using him to inspire you to get better I think thats really cool
No way in hell! I like a mid-tight setup being a heavier skater (185-190) I am not sacrificing my pop and stability even if it means slightly better pinch. Not to mention making thunders even lower and the wheel bite you'll get,haha.
I'm 225lbs and can't ride conical bushings if my life depended on it. I also ride 8.5 though. I noticed the narrower the board the tighter the trucks feel. The less distance between the center of the board where the trucks turn, the less leverage, my guess. I can never get over how people ride their trucks so loose you can see the truck wabbling when they pick up their board.
It’s a placebo effect. You got used to it because if you do any kind of adjustment you will get used to it after a session. No diss but I don’t think you are good enough to really notice the actual benefits.
You need to be a bit more advanced to notice the difference a lot more, he mentioned control with one foot in tight places and better for landing tricks just more control in general
I did this awhile back bc my trucks were loose enough to where my whole truck fell off 😳. Really helps. It’s also hilarious when people ask to ride your board & throw down, only to find how loose your trucks really are.
This is a pretty common longboard bushing setup. Venom sells double cones as "super carve". I haven't regular skateboarded for a really long time, but you could do a ton of custom stuff w/ bushings. Riptide sells street bushing packs. You could do double cone, softer in the front truck, or do harder board side w/ softer road side cones. Endless combos.
Used to do this all the time back in the day. The in between is only take the bottom washer off, you don’t need it because the bottom bushing has enough surface area to sit on.
I tried this today at work and it helped a lot the balance is so good , my manuals are on lock
as someone that skates with very very loose trucks as Ishod I think I will definitely try this !
Thanks dude
Yo if you bend your knees more when you skate you'll be 10x better no lie. Higher pop, better balance, board stays under you more easy. Seriously dude, try it out
Lol
fucking facts dude!! 110% agree with ya
Very true dude if you straighten and your back and shoulders when u do tricks it helps a lot
You mean bending knees more before a trick or during?
@@mrsemifixit all three points only rise when you're riding away clean
I have the same setup as Ishod, I like it.
Adding beats behind the skating i like it. Reminds me of NKA vids
Ishod skates Thunders which are not a flowy truck so the bushing hack is just changing the geometry to make the trucks more flowy. If you want a more flowy and turny setup then try a new pair of trucks like Aces then you dont have to go tinkering with the geometry of a truck, would be good to go at stock. Lol yea its fun to experiment and tinker to get set ups more personalized but yaa know just sayin.
Aces are the best trucks for flow
I loved this concept. More truck set up from pros
Dude, you’ve improved SO MUCH since the last time I watched one of your videos like a year ago. Good luck on the dieting. I can tell you from experience, when you’re a big boy skater like I was, losing a lot of weight is like a cheat code for skating. Obviously you get better pop, but I found that my style got WAY smoother. And I rolled away a lot more on landings that weren’t perfect. I think maybe your body gets used to being top-heavy, so when you lose weight your body still tries to compensate for that extra missing weight. It’s like your sense of balance is overpowered. That was my experience anyways.
He lowered the truck but kept the turning ability with the 2 cone bushings . I have 149 thunders and I put ace low bushing in as well as the krux inverted kingpin conversion.. been doing this for 5 years. The ace trucks are bottom barrel and the top is cone
I started doing this with a ML medium to and bones hardcore top, super lose and jiggly but I love it...
Also check out Ishod Wair's trucks. He skates smaller trucks than his board. Example: Board size 8.25 with Thunder 147 Trucks.
You can see it in his latest video part. Lots of pros like Andrew Reynolds & Leo Romero do the same. Big board riding smaller trucks.
I also seen risers on his trucks...
I hate the idea of riding magic carpet.
@@victorarregnelle8976 magic carpet ride
You should do the whole ishod setup: 8.38 twin tail with 147 thunders and 52mm wheels with 3 washers on the inside of each axle
I plan too I just don't want to start over with new trucks haha
Can i use independent red soft bushings is it the same as on this video
Tried this today with two top bones bushings(no washer). I haven’t had this much fun in a while and Manuel’s were a bit easier
much love and respect to you and your channel. I hope that all is well for you and your family and friends.
The big issue with this is with that bottom bushing being shorter it changes the geometry of the truck. The truck is going to sit titled inwards towards the center of your board and will put more pressure on the pivot cup. Definitely not the best thing for the trucks even if it feels good.
Is it that big a deal if Ishod throws down harder with it then a 12 year olds controller playing COD?
@Where's the curvature or cleavage? It's not just the pivot cup itself receiving extra pressure. It's the bottom of the hanger as well as the back of the baseplate and likely the kingpin as well. If it makes the trucks feel great for you or ishod or whoever, cool go ahead and do it. Just know it may lead to some earlier parts failures.
Dawg hearing all that makes me wonder what you ride cause I know Jack shit abt what’s a good set up. I just threw some indies on my shit and never looked back still feels comfortable but I’m interested in finding a better set up
@@Cnb132 honestly man ignorance is bliss. Just ride what you feel comfortable on. I made the mistake of learning all the weird physics and nuances of board size, truck differences, wheel size and shape. All it did was make me obsessively try new stuff. I'm still a shitty skateboarder haha.
@@Exploitedyouth2004 i have a friend like that and holds a huge quiver of surf boards..
LOVE the skate edit bro
Nice content and discovery! I bought some months ago new indies bushings. Can't remember how/why, they were like the ones in the vid, top bushings only. I admit I did not pay attention, but just liked it. It's been 3 months I have them and I really like this way, much better to me than classic bushings when it comes to feeling confortable on your board moreover when you like having a nice turning on the streets...Thanks for the vid!!
thank you for what you do and everything you have done. I love your channel and videos.
Wow you're getting really good man,great to see your progression!
Btw how about a tyshawn jones or nick tucker video(probably something about switch flips or popping higher)?
Great suggestion!
@@localjoe thanks bro,good luck!
Always a dope breakdown. 👊
Appreciate that
I just thought about the concept of your videos. First of all, I enjoy them very much. I had this idea that you may not only change the setup of your skateboard for a video (in this case) but also change the style. For example if some skater does huge drops on a specific board setup, it would be nice to see if it helps YOU when hitting a (smaller) drop.
Just an idea. Nice vid and make every day a Friday 🤙
Ps: sorry if my english is a little bit skuffed😅
_Bushings? U do skate like him, I think u even look like Ishod. Practically his twin. I actually thought u were Ishod at the beginning._ 👍🏻👍🏻
eventually your board will be like a total melting of like 100 pro's life hacks. i think the two top bushings also makes the trucks lower and have a shorter wheel base. also if you're dieting buy lots of healthy groceries that take a bit of effort to eat. when i eat really bad it's because i have 5 bags of 3d doritos in my bedroom where i can just graze instead of eating real food.
love the vids brodie 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
you should try his truck size to deck size difference. 147s and 8.3!
wtf
Weird
3 washers in the inside makes it a 149, haha
with riser pads too
What is it with pros and super loose tricks? Is it sort of like learning ping pong with spatula so when you use a real paddle it will feel like the size of texas? In the context of skateboarding I guess that would be your sense of balance?
Dude you are no longer average..
I mean in my head I want to be like a ishod so I’m pretty far off from that but average is subjective
That beat is nuts
Just use the normal bushings and try to remove the bottom cup of the bushing i think that's what nyjah do just try it that's what i do for almost 2 years
I'm wicked jealous of ur local park... where Is this
He got hella low risers too because the double top bushings makes the trucks lower and thunder 147s are 50mm tall stock
49mm if they are lights or hollow lights
Do I need to try this to understand? My trucks are loose enough with the normal bushings for my front to only turn the board when I'm pushing? Someone please elaborate
it's a little looser than what you normally could achieve with a standard truck setup
Can’t forget the triple washers in the wheels
it’s been a day how have the bushings been? did u switch off of them or keep it like that?
I’ve kept them for 4 sessions so far trying to decide
@@localjoe NICEEEEE THX FOR THE REPLY BTW, love ur vids man👍👍
@@localjoe follow up plz ;) subbing rn
i LOVE your videos
🙏🏼❤️
how long have you been skating?
And in the next video you have to skate a whole ishod board :D he skates thunder 147 on a 8.3 or something:D and did you ever skated a twin tail board? Love your videos
Much love from germany 🙏❤️
It feels good👍
You're skateboarding look so good now. Start learning tricks on switch
Love your content man, I was watching a few of your old videos, and then skipped to this one. Your progress is phenomenal!! Love the videos man keep the good vibes rolling
I appreciate that!
I did this dude and omg I'm as good as Isod Wair now!!![
Great vid, always down to try new setups
I hope that everyone reading this comment has a great and memorable day today.
Can I ask how long you’ve been skating for?
Also how much you weigh ? Please
like 20 years with a 12 years of gaps throughout it and I weigh 190 right now but trying to weight 165
Imagine Daewon's truck setup!
Just 3 washers, some wax, and some hole punched griptape circle cutouts
He does only one bushing on each truck thats why his are so ridiculous
exactly
Bro its not about the bushings do you think ishod cant skate a normal bushing truck?
Hella good sesh!!
This just reminds me of Bones bushings that look like 2 top bushings. I may give this hack a go. Doubt I'll skate anything like Ishod or even Joe.
I am gonna try this sometime 🤙
Yeah bro so sick video
Great tips… ☺️
You got my like and sub just from the music thank you haha
Noticed that steez right away
never give up on your dreams.
He’s on deluxe so he won’t do this but bones bushings would have the same effect. Especially the blue ones.
I’m in class 😂😂
Real one
found this cuz i use 2 bottom bushings
but i saw some 90s japanese trucks by GUS and they had some really weird hourglass looking bushings on the bottom it looked like 2 top bushings facing against eachother so it was skinny in the middle so i want to try putting 2 top bushings on the bottom of my trucks to try and replicate it but i'm scared that they will break or something cuz im really heavy
i'll update this comment after experimenting
I don't know , ishod has a certain look on a board that is not copyable by most skaters. hes tall and slender first of all so he looks and skates completely different. what works for him i don't see working for most average skaters.
the setup is just called conical bushings instead of cylindrical bushings.
I tried this and it’s awesome but I keep getting wheelbite
I just wanna be able to heelflip consistently
Keep trying! Concentrate on keeping your shoulders square :)
So you put a too bushing in the bottom and the top
What Ishod is actually saying is that he has conical bushing both top and bottom. But I think everyone got that 😂
seems like you'd break kingpins more often, no?
maybe... I think more the pivot cup would get worn down
Realistically how often are non pros breaking kingpins tho?
@@lazyk1751 depends what you skate... I go through kingpins about as often as I go through decks. and they're not only annoying to replace, but it's not "fun" to replace like a deck is, ya know?
bro joe im sure ur a nice kid but respectfully, you are not seshing even a 1/4 of ishod in two weeks LMAOOOOOOO my homie russ knows ishod personally and skated with ishod on the same skate shop and told me ishod skated till 2 am damn near everyday, the man is FIEND for skating hahahaha but I like how you using him to inspire you to get better I think thats really cool
and he seshed till 2 am for years. Skating is life for him LITERALLY
every time I buy new trucks I use the bushings from my old trucks if they're not to cracked
No way in hell! I like a mid-tight setup being a heavier skater (185-190) I am not sacrificing my pop and stability even if it means slightly better pinch. Not to mention making thunders even lower and the wheel bite you'll get,haha.
I'm 225lbs and can't ride conical bushings if my life depended on it. I also ride 8.5 though. I noticed the narrower the board the tighter the trucks feel. The less distance between the center of the board where the trucks turn, the less leverage, my guess.
I can never get over how people ride their trucks so loose you can see the truck wabbling when they pick up their board.
Gotta skate and 8.38 and 147’s
this works better if you use only top washers instead of this bottom washer
This is just the opposite of Andy Anderson bushing setup. 2 bottom bushings so it isn't as loose
This is random but I fuck with beard it’s pretty sick 🤙🏽
It’s a placebo effect. You got used to it because if you do any kind of adjustment you will get used to it after a session. No diss but I don’t think you are good enough to really notice the actual benefits.
Make a video about the benefits since you’re good enough.
Sounds like he just wants to skate indies
that bs flip was 🤌🏼
Can't stand loose trucks. I have to have mine tight as hell
Just buy Bones bushings and it will do the same thing. I cant skate anything else
You need to be a bit more advanced to notice the difference a lot more, he mentioned control with one foot in tight places and better for landing tricks just more control in general
I hope that all is well for everyone reading this comment.
now try riding trucks as loose as Daewoo Song and get back to me.
first jajaja
Thanks man appreciate you getting here so fast!
I hate loose trucks lol
Thats not a hack, as hole, just personal preference
You look like the guy from breakinh bad who helped saul do his bussiness, not huel but the other one