Mark cbay, it takes skill drive either. The bike is obviously more difficult to drive fast and well. The more power the car has the more tricky it will be and cars like Porsche 911s are NOT easy to drive well at speed.
I give bikers the credit they deserve. They are hugely fast, nimble, and unless you have a 1,000 hp car, you're not coming close usually in a race. BUT I can hit some gravel in my 420 hp Mustang and not die. I can drive in the rain and not be miserable. I can load up my car with a few friends and luggage and go on a road trip. Bikes have their place, as do cars. Any comparison is meaningless.
i love the bike coz me and my girl and no her friends can't come. it stays that way just the two of us. plus she says its more fun. i have both so rain isn't an issue. i still hate gravel though..
That's why I laugh at bikers who call car drivers 'cagers'. The truth is, 99% of bikers are really car drivers who just use their bikes in the warm summer months at weekends.
I wish I could go back in time and live again the period between a year 2000 and 2014 (with couple of mods though). and then again. and again. and again. and again. forever.
I was a car guy. Then I got a 20 year old CB750 last year as my first bike. It accelerates faster than any car I've ever owned (0-60MPH in 3.9s) and it cost $1500. I rarely get in my V-8 anymore and I can't wait to get my next bike. If you like pure speed, motorcycles are the way to go.
as a car guy, i've to admit that on a straight line any supercar are no match for a superbike (except against a p1, 918 or laferrari or tuned car) but on the corner, supercar are faster realy, and you can have more control and drift, but i think that you can have very good sensation on a bike too. It's just two different way to have fun isn't it? :)
Bike are fun cars are more practical you can drive a ferrari the whole day you cant really do that on a super bike unless your planing on not going to work tmr my v4 is the most exciting thing i ever ridden but i will never ride more then 3 hrs on that thing its unbearable in traffic you feel you nuts boiling
I'm not a motorcyclist, but this review is, in my opinion, really good. The reviewer goes through all the positive and negative points, and even concludes on sensible reasons where the car wins out over the motorcycle. He's not looking to use the vehicle as some sort of phallic symbol, or going into endless narrative about feature, X, Y and Z -- like J. Clarkson. He doesn't say the car is a boondoggle, he just points out where the bike wins. And it's with the acceleration. Commendable review.
@Nolimittt I have the SLS AMG page at the mercedes-amg website open. Under Engine Specifications - Configuration they post AMG 6.3L V-8. Below that, under Displacement, they post 6,208 cc [which is 6.208 liters]. My understanding is that we are talking about the engine's displacement.
Nice video, I like this guy. He forgot to say that at the end of the day driving pleasure comes mainly from going round corners. These bikes have a bit too much power for the amount of grip. Straights don't last long but braking and cornering sure does. It comes down to preference, whether you like to drive a bike, a car or play golf. You can have more fun in a small GTI and a 250cc motorcycle. You can have more fun driving fast on a twisty road and there are no straights there.
not to 186mph the 1299 superleggera was faster to the mile run and only slowed down once it hits its rev limit that 1198sp is probably one of the slower superbike out there
Wow, I've been watching these videos for a long time. I can see how you've grown as a rider over the years. Your riding in this is outstanding. Very jealous here!
Simple truth is that bikes are so involving to ride that no car will ever come close. The number of 'sporty' car drivers I know who say that they gave a sports bike a race and nearly 'had him' makes me laugh, I merely point out that the bike will do 0-60 in 2.5secs, and that I doubt the rider knew that he was supposed to be in a race, was probably on half revs. whilst the car was probably on the limit and losing ground.
Bikes and cars are totally different beasts, speed on a motorcycle is something that you have to experience personally to understand the feeling. A bike is way more intense.
wow those guys are amazing.. and especially the big heavy police machine cornering is impressive. though what i meant with cars are faster in bends was related to faster cornering like at the race track
"Those car types are easily impressed because they don't know the meaning of the word acceleration from a motorbike." Haha - So true!! Oh yeah, awesome editing as well!
Look up the specs of the car folks, the displacement of the motor is 6,208cc hence why he says 6.2 and not 6.3. Mercedes as well as other car makes tend to round up whenever they can. Great video btw, I can never seem to get my friends in fast cars to understand how much more faster a bike is then a car even when they see the numbers.
All AMG engines sound fantastic, I've heard V12's and all kind of stuff, but this, I think this car sounds really, properly nice. It's really art, I can't think of a car that sounds better than this.
At 4:41 on the Ducati's speedo, it shows it getting to 185mph, then showed ---, which is what it shows when you go beyond the 300km/h barrier. you gotta check the bikes onboard telemetry system to see actual speed once it does that. it will show lap times, acceleration, braking, top speed.
as a biker for 23 years of my 27 year life, i can say hand on heart that going fast in a straight line is crap, anyone can do it, in a tin box or on a bike, but making a bike go round a bend (ok its not as fast as a car in the corner) is a speciasl feeling of achievement that you made a machine that hates corners go round it fast. I find it far better than sitting in a seat turning a big circle, and the mid corner speed differance isnt important when you come out of the corner faster.
mcn dont just SAY it , PROVE it! Everyone knows the bike will win in terms of acceleration and its light , nimble design will definitely help. Show us a round the track race , 3 times for an average. THAT will wipe the smile off the top gear team. Then I will be satisfied! This is coming from a biker as well if anyones interested.
@Nolimittt Or I could just go to the manufacturer's website. Mercedes posts the displacement as 6208 cm3. Which is closer to 6.2 liters than 6.3 liters.
Like he said I don't care how fast the car is or how fast it is around a track. Nothing puts a smile on your face like a motorbike. Ducati 1198R or a Honda GROM, there's really nothing like it for me.
Wow. Brilliant episode, not based on content but purely on how well it was put together .. almost top-gear level stuff! but with none of the top gear waffle...
@Darylw27 Practicality is no comparison. Also yes, you could use a bike every day but a 1198 is a race bike. It will be used for the track or on weekends. Or to go to a cafe to show off.
The reason they call it a 6.3 is because they are keeping with tradition. At one time, they actually had a 6.3 liter motor but then changed it to a 6.2 but didn't change the name because it is a franchised number for MB
I ride a 2009 Ducati 1198s and I absolutely love my bike and wouldn't trade it for anything but when I see a hellcat I gotta say I'm almost breaking my neck when I go by lol also any car guy, if you want to win the car vs bike argument, the rain is all it takes to clip a superbike riders wings
I'd like to see a 1198 against a proper HyperCar. You know the cars that make the SLS AMG look slow in comparison. Pagani Huayra, Koenigsegg One, McLaren P1 etc.
On the Nürburgring Nordschleife the best lap times are held by cars not motorbikes, and by quite a margin. Best car time: 6:11, best motorbike time: 7:49.
I'm a car guy & AMG fan, but the way those superbikes rack up speed is mind-boggling. I'd believe that not even a Lamborghini Aventador (or a Bugatti Veryon for that matter) can outrun these in a 1/4 mile. Not even slightly. I would still prefer the car though; I don't have to skills (nor balls) to ride these insane bikes which can throw you off for nailing the throttle too aggressively.
It is good and all that but cars simply don't have that body-to-body connection that a bike has. In a bike you have to use every single bit of your body and you feel everything, in a car you just go 250km/h and say cool! I tested it myself, I couldn't afford a ducati or a SLS, I just used my YZF R125 which has a top speed of 130km/h and my merc, a C220 Cdi who has a top speed of 220-230 km/h and I got to say that the 130km/h on the YZF R125 feel much better!
So funny...the Ducati goes 187mph....depending on which way the wind is blowing....great clip. The Gullwing is so everything. This should be the next 007 car.
For us bikers, 0-60 mph times remain quite constant, despite bikes getting more and more powerful, unfortunately. Still, 2.5sec kicks supercar butt, not mentioning roll-on acceleration! And for 10X less!
Geez Patrick, it's not like he's criticising either. I love bikes & what better way to compare them than against the top line cars. I never tire of it personally & when new models come out I look fwd to seeing them compared as well. Besides do you know how many car drivers don't realise just how much more performance a bike has? Didn't realise it was an argument tho.
Which is a good thing, too, because I certainly never wear a jacket and gloves when I'm in my car, and I find standing still TERRIBLY difficult, I just sit down wherever I happen to be when I stop walking.
Really enjoyed this. I had a similar experience (on a much smaller scale!). Got to try a couple laps in a Lamborghini Murcielago and a Nissan GT-R - I thought it would blow my mind, but even though they were awesome, they weren't, as you say, like the Top Gear presenters would make you think. I use a Honda CBF125 to commute - not sure if there's a link between riding a motorbike and not being overwhelmed with a fast car?
Obviously a preference. People that ride motorcycles enjoy it differently from those who enjoy cars. It all depends on the weapon of choice. Speed is truly a wonderful thing.:0)
Think the reason most people 'like' things is based on how much things cost, so if it cost 180k they like over 18k bike. Makes them feel richer. But bike = not only 10 times cheaper but 10 times more excitement. And if one knows how to ride properly they are safer than cars...personally I find being smaller, faster and more nimble give me an advantage over driving a car, plus I have greater visibility without bits of car frame getting in the way...
A car driver who has never ridden a bike cannot ever have an opinion. The experience of being on a bike is simply mind blowing...
yep.
many keyboard commandos talking shoite about bikes have never riden one
love keyboard commando's!
Mark cbay, it takes skill drive either. The bike is obviously more difficult to drive fast and well. The more power the car has the more tricky it will be and cars like Porsche 911s are NOT easy to drive well at speed.
I give bikers the credit they deserve. They are hugely fast, nimble, and unless you have a 1,000 hp car, you're not coming close usually in a race.
BUT
I can hit some gravel in my 420 hp Mustang and not die. I can drive in the rain and not be miserable. I can load up my car with a few friends and luggage and go on a road trip.
Bikes have their place, as do cars. Any comparison is meaningless.
yeah Gravel will do it, I love bikes, but as you say, they have their place.
i love the bike coz me and my girl and no her friends can't come. it stays that way just the two of us. plus she says its more fun. i have both so rain isn't an issue. i still hate gravel though..
Tell you what your right but there is no more joy than riding you bike fast down a tiwsty road
Thanks for
That's why I laugh at bikers who call car drivers 'cagers'. The truth is, 99% of bikers are really car drivers who just use their bikes in the warm summer months at weekends.
Amen to that opening speech about how epic motorcycles are!!!
MCN vids have come on leaps and bounds, no more annoying wind noise and in and out of focus. Well done MCN
Wouldn't mind having both, but that Ducati is def the one for my Sundays!
Nice to see "how the car feels" versus the usual "comparative tests".
Always fun to see the difference.
I wish I could go back in time and live again the period between a year 2000 and 2014 (with couple of mods though). and then again. and again. and again. and again. forever.
Amen, we need more people like you on the internets...
I was a car guy. Then I got a 20 year old CB750 last year as my first bike. It accelerates faster than any car I've ever owned (0-60MPH in 3.9s) and it cost $1500. I rarely get in my V-8 anymore and I can't wait to get my next bike. If you like pure speed, motorcycles are the way to go.
as a car guy, i've to admit that on a straight line any supercar are no match for a superbike (except against a p1, 918 or laferrari or tuned car) but on the corner, supercar are faster realy, and you can have more control and drift, but i think that you can have very good sensation on a bike too. It's just two different way to have fun isn't it? :)
Bike are fun cars are more practical you can drive a ferrari the whole day you cant really do that on a super bike unless your planing on not going to work tmr my v4 is the most exciting thing i ever ridden but i will never ride more then 3 hrs on that thing its unbearable in traffic you feel you nuts boiling
As much as I like bikes, you really need to try the Ariel Atom V8!
The videos are getting better and better! Filming, editing and sound quality! Great job. Quite a special shoutout this one!
MCN now are actually better in term of their presentation... good job!
love em
This piece was very well shot and produced: MCN has stepped up it's game. I hope you do far more videos like this one.
I'm not a motorcyclist, but this review is, in my opinion, really good. The reviewer goes through all the positive and negative points, and even concludes on sensible reasons where the car wins out over the motorcycle. He's not looking to use the vehicle as some sort of phallic symbol, or going into endless narrative about feature, X, Y and Z -- like J. Clarkson. He doesn't say the car is a boondoggle, he just points out where the bike wins. And it's with the acceleration. Commendable review.
These MCN videos have really come a far way. Congrats with a great video....
finally, a properly decent video from MCN. wind noise down the mic is history?!
MCN videos are getting much better than they used to be!
My left ear enjoyed the show... -.-
@Nolimittt I have the SLS AMG page at the mercedes-amg website open. Under Engine Specifications - Configuration they post AMG 6.3L V-8. Below that, under Displacement, they post 6,208 cc [which is 6.208 liters]. My understanding is that we are talking about the engine's displacement.
Nice video, I like this guy.
He forgot to say that at the end of the day driving pleasure comes mainly from going round corners.
These bikes have a bit too much power for the amount of grip.
Straights don't last long but braking and cornering sure does.
It comes down to preference, whether you like to drive a bike, a car or play golf.
You can have more fun in a small GTI and a 250cc motorcycle.
You can have more fun driving fast on a twisty road and there are no straights there.
getting a lot better with the vids every time mcn impressed :)
You can tell how bored he is with the acceleration, lol.
not to 186mph the 1299 superleggera was faster to the mile run and only slowed down once it hits its rev limit that 1198sp is probably one of the slower superbike out there
@@patthonsirilim5739 balls life is clearly just an ignorant nob
Wow, I've been watching these videos for a long time. I can see how you've grown as a rider over the years. Your riding in this is outstanding.
Very jealous here!
Awesome work Ian Jubb, very well shot and put together.
Simple truth is that bikes are so involving to ride that no car will ever come close. The number of 'sporty' car drivers I know who say that they gave a sports bike a race and nearly 'had him' makes me laugh, I merely point out that the bike will do 0-60 in 2.5secs, and that I doubt the rider knew that he was supposed to be in a race, was probably on half revs. whilst the car was probably on the limit and losing ground.
Bikes and cars are totally different beasts, speed on a motorcycle is something that you have to experience personally to understand the feeling. A bike is way more intense.
Michael, great job!! Loved the Vid
Greetings from America
great review!! in the eyes of a biker.... nothing compares....
What happened? I fell asleep when the car was on
you do have to remember thought that the target markets for these things are worlds apart. Both are astounding machines.
wow those guys are amazing.. and especially the big heavy police machine cornering is impressive. though what i meant with cars are faster in bends was related to faster cornering like at the race track
Great video, really loving the new style of vids!
why thank you. Your input is so useful.
"Those car types are easily impressed because they don't know the meaning of the word acceleration from a motorbike."
Haha - So true!!
Oh yeah, awesome editing as well!
SLS AMG GT & DUCATI DIAVEL CARBON my two loves... perfect combination !!!
Wow i applaud you MCN that you really stepped up your game with that editing and filming!
Bike = Girlfriend & Car = for girlfriend
came here to watch Ducati 1198 SP...,i love it
Look up the specs of the car folks, the displacement of the motor is 6,208cc hence why he says 6.2 and not 6.3. Mercedes as well as other car makes tend to round up whenever they can. Great video btw, I can never seem to get my friends in fast cars to understand how much more faster a bike is then a car even when they see the numbers.
OMG they actually have a good quality video!!! At last MCN comes to the present day tech!
Best MCN video yet! :)
LOVE TO RIDE/DRIVE BOTH BEASTLY BIKES AND CARS!!!...
Brilliant! Don´t stop making this videos!
The quality is amazing! Great video too.
Best mcn video yet..
All AMG engines sound fantastic, I've heard V12's and all kind of stuff, but this, I think this car sounds really, properly nice. It's really art, I can't think of a car that sounds better than this.
At 4:41 on the Ducati's speedo, it shows it getting to 185mph, then showed ---, which is what it shows when you go beyond the 300km/h barrier. you gotta check the bikes onboard telemetry system to see actual speed once it does that. it will show lap times, acceleration, braking, top speed.
as a biker for 23 years of my 27 year life, i can say hand on heart that going fast in a straight line is crap, anyone can do it, in a tin box or on a bike, but making a bike go round a bend (ok its not as fast as a car in the corner) is a speciasl feeling of achievement that you made a machine that hates corners go round it fast. I find it far better than sitting in a seat turning a big circle, and the mid corner speed differance isnt important when you come out of the corner faster.
Baby SLS and Ducati
any muppet car drive any car - you have to have balls/guts to ride a bike - period
i love how right when he says " it has a 6.2 liter engine" the camera man films the 6.3 badge on the car.
Very impressive production,guys. Good work!
Cool video. I'm more of a car guy but i love ducati so i'd probably choose the 1198 over the merc.
Michael Neeves, never knew that you DRIVE is as good as you RIDE before.
@fast89able I don't think the badge is correct. It is a 6.2 liter engine, according to car review programs like TopGear, if I'm not mistaken.
mcn dont just SAY it , PROVE it! Everyone knows the bike will win in terms of acceleration and its light , nimble design will definitely help. Show us a round the track race , 3 times for an average. THAT will wipe the smile off the top gear team. Then I will be satisfied! This is coming from a biker as well if anyones interested.
I'd have the car, sell it, and buy a few bikes. Simple.
So you would buy the car just to sell it and buy a few bikes 🤔
@@minatormyth This is assuming you could just have one or the other for free.
@LiterR1 Merc labels it as a 6.3 but its actual displacement is 6.208 afaik
Nice work MCN ........ you guys are good in Cars too
@Nolimittt Or I could just go to the manufacturer's website. Mercedes posts the displacement as 6208 cm3. Which is closer to 6.2 liters than 6.3 liters.
Like he said I don't care how fast the car is or how fast it is around a track. Nothing puts a smile on your face like a motorbike. Ducati 1198R or a Honda GROM, there's really nothing like it for me.
awesome video, best yet.
Nice comparison, thanks for that.
Even at 40mph, a bike is still able to put a smile on my face. Cars are amazing, but just don't have the excitement and risk as a bike does.
Damn ... that Ducati sounds naughty !!!
Wow. Brilliant episode, not based on content but purely on how well it was put together .. almost top-gear level stuff! but with none of the top gear waffle...
@Darylw27 Practicality is no comparison. Also yes, you could use a bike every day but a 1198 is a race bike. It will be used for the track or on weekends. Or to go to a cafe to show off.
"i know the one my girlfriend would like." that sums up the video for me!
nice review
The reason they call it a 6.3 is because they are keeping with tradition. At one time, they actually had a 6.3 liter motor but then changed it to a 6.2 but didn't change the name because it is a franchised number for MB
good presentation. I love cars, but for some reason i would go for the ducati.
Hmm i wanna ride again :X
very entertaining video. I can't wait till your review on the Panigale
MCN smoke pole to the max!!!
I ride a 2009 Ducati 1198s and I absolutely love my bike and wouldn't trade it for anything but when I see a hellcat I gotta say I'm almost breaking my neck when I go by lol also any car guy, if you want to win the car vs bike argument, the rain is all it takes to clip a superbike riders wings
Great video, love it!
I'd like to see a 1198 against a proper HyperCar. You know the cars that make the SLS AMG look slow in comparison. Pagani Huayra, Koenigsegg One, McLaren P1 etc.
Great Review Guys!!
No problem!
I have a bike Z1000 model 2004 do you have a bike?
On the Nürburgring Nordschleife the best lap times are held by cars not motorbikes, and by quite a margin. Best car time: 6:11, best motorbike time: 7:49.
Love the conclusion! It says everything about why even the most fancy cars are always worst then a motorcycle.
I'm a car guy & AMG fan, but the way those superbikes rack up speed is mind-boggling. I'd believe that not even a Lamborghini Aventador (or a Bugatti Veryon for that matter) can outrun these in a 1/4 mile. Not even slightly.
I would still prefer the car though; I don't have to skills (nor balls) to ride these insane bikes which can throw you off for nailing the throttle too aggressively.
Don't know why V/L twins don't sound to appealing on video but always sound 10X better in person.
2:52 best drift ever
This guy has the best job in the world!
This was actually a decent comparison and video (y)
Knew a guy that raced bikes nearly getting into motogp. He said no car is remotely quick until it has atleast 350-400 bhp
I love it how they show a big "6.3" while he's saying 6.2 litre :-)
Want to know how it feels to ride a Ducati 1198? Rent one out from Redline Rentals in NJ or FL
It is good and all that but cars simply don't have that body-to-body connection that a bike has. In a bike you have to use every single bit of your body and you feel everything, in a car you just go 250km/h and say cool!
I tested it myself, I couldn't afford a ducati or a SLS, I just used my YZF R125 which has a top speed of 130km/h and my merc, a C220 Cdi who has a top speed of 220-230 km/h and I got to say that the 130km/h on the YZF R125 feel much better!
That oldie is a fucking crazy man. Kuddos to you.
So funny...the Ducati goes 187mph....depending on which way the wind is blowing....great clip. The Gullwing is so everything. This should be the next 007 car.
Its not really fair when they dont compare how fast the ducati can get on the same length, or even both laptimes!
For us bikers, 0-60 mph times remain quite constant, despite bikes getting more and more powerful, unfortunately. Still, 2.5sec kicks supercar butt, not mentioning roll-on acceleration! And for 10X less!
Great Vid !
Somewhat unbiased. Pretty good I'd say
Geez Patrick, it's not like he's criticising either. I love bikes & what better way to compare them than against the top line cars. I never tire of it personally & when new models come out I look fwd to seeing them compared as well. Besides do you know how many car drivers don't realise just how much more performance a bike has? Didn't realise it was an argument tho.
Which is a good thing, too, because I certainly never wear a jacket and gloves when I'm in my car, and I find standing still TERRIBLY difficult, I just sit down wherever I happen to be when I stop walking.
Jajaja like the burn out towards the end
Really enjoyed this. I had a similar experience (on a much smaller scale!). Got to try a couple laps in a Lamborghini Murcielago and a Nissan GT-R - I thought it would blow my mind, but even though they were awesome, they weren't, as you say, like the Top Gear presenters would make you think. I use a Honda CBF125 to commute - not sure if there's a link between riding a motorbike and not being overwhelmed with a fast car?
Obviously a preference. People that ride motorcycles enjoy it differently from those who enjoy cars. It all depends on the weapon of choice. Speed is truly a wonderful thing.:0)
Think the reason most people 'like' things is based on how much things cost, so if it cost 180k they like over 18k bike. Makes them feel richer. But bike = not only 10 times cheaper but 10 times more excitement. And if one knows how to ride properly they are safer than cars...personally I find being smaller, faster and more nimble give me an advantage over driving a car, plus I have greater visibility without bits of car frame getting in the way...