Mercedes SLS AMG & Ducati 1198 SP from a bikers point of view

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  • @philbase
    @philbase 10 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    A car driver who has never ridden a bike cannot ever have an opinion. The experience of being on a bike is simply mind blowing...

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yep.
      many keyboard commandos talking shoite about bikes have never riden one

    • @philbase
      @philbase 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love keyboard commando's!

    • @WDLC1911
      @WDLC1911 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mark cbay, it takes skill drive either. The bike is obviously more difficult to drive fast and well. The more power the car has the more tricky it will be and cars like Porsche 911s are NOT easy to drive well at speed.

  • @PantherP74
    @PantherP74 10 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I give bikers the credit they deserve. They are hugely fast, nimble, and unless you have a 1,000 hp car, you're not coming close usually in a race.
    BUT
    I can hit some gravel in my 420 hp Mustang and not die. I can drive in the rain and not be miserable. I can load up my car with a few friends and luggage and go on a road trip.
    Bikes have their place, as do cars. Any comparison is meaningless.

    • @thegreatdandino118
      @thegreatdandino118 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah Gravel will do it, I love bikes, but as you say, they have their place.

    • @solidsnake2164
      @solidsnake2164 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i love the bike coz me and my girl and no her friends can't come. it stays that way just the two of us. plus she says its more fun. i have both so rain isn't an issue. i still hate gravel though..

    • @patrickconnor3863
      @patrickconnor3863 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tell you what your right but there is no more joy than riding you bike fast down a tiwsty road

    • @leeher6813
      @leeher6813 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for

    • @harold-sweat-head8111
      @harold-sweat-head8111 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I laugh at bikers who call car drivers 'cagers'. The truth is, 99% of bikers are really car drivers who just use their bikes in the warm summer months at weekends.

  • @Premises187
    @Premises187 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amen to that opening speech about how epic motorcycles are!!!

  • @fragglevooper
    @fragglevooper 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What happened? I fell asleep when the car was on

  • @xorbe2
    @xorbe2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You can tell how bored he is with the acceleration, lol.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not to 186mph the 1299 superleggera was faster to the mile run and only slowed down once it hits its rev limit that 1198sp is probably one of the slower superbike out there

    • @ninjarider2032
      @ninjarider2032 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patthonsirilim5739 balls life is clearly just an ignorant nob

  • @voilemontagne
    @voilemontagne 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    as a car guy, i've to admit that on a straight line any supercar are no match for a superbike (except against a p1, 918 or laferrari or tuned car) but on the corner, supercar are faster realy, and you can have more control and drift, but i think that you can have very good sensation on a bike too. It's just two different way to have fun isn't it? :)

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bike are fun cars are more practical you can drive a ferrari the whole day you cant really do that on a super bike unless your planing on not going to work tmr my v4 is the most exciting thing i ever ridden but i will never ride more then 3 hrs on that thing its unbearable in traffic you feel you nuts boiling

  • @DB-gv6oi
    @DB-gv6oi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see "how the car feels" versus the usual "comparative tests".
    Always fun to see the difference.

  • @92Fizzy
    @92Fizzy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As much as I like bikes, you really need to try the Ariel Atom V8!

  • @InsaneShredFury
    @InsaneShredFury 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    MCN vids have come on leaps and bounds, no more annoying wind noise and in and out of focus. Well done MCN

  • @Terraceview
    @Terraceview 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't mind having both, but that Ducati is def the one for my Sundays!

  • @geoffhill6992
    @geoffhill6992 11 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    any muppet car drive any car - you have to have balls/guts to ride a bike - period

  • @sdguero28
    @sdguero28 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a car guy. Then I got a 20 year old CB750 last year as my first bike. It accelerates faster than any car I've ever owned (0-60MPH in 3.9s) and it cost $1500. I rarely get in my V-8 anymore and I can't wait to get my next bike. If you like pure speed, motorcycles are the way to go.

  • @VisorView
    @VisorView 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Simple truth is that bikes are so involving to ride that no car will ever come close. The number of 'sporty' car drivers I know who say that they gave a sports bike a race and nearly 'had him' makes me laugh, I merely point out that the bike will do 0-60 in 2.5secs, and that I doubt the rider knew that he was supposed to be in a race, was probably on half revs. whilst the car was probably on the limit and losing ground.

  • @theotherchannel2028
    @theotherchannel2028 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I could go back in time and live again the period between a year 2000 and 2014 (with couple of mods though). and then again. and again. and again. and again. forever.

  • @tomplum2751
    @tomplum2751 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'd have the car, sell it, and buy a few bikes. Simple.

    • @minatormyth
      @minatormyth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you would buy the car just to sell it and buy a few bikes 🤔

    • @tomplum2751
      @tomplum2751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minatormyth This is assuming you could just have one or the other for free.

  • @PieEater8899
    @PieEater8899 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a motorcyclist, but this review is, in my opinion, really good. The reviewer goes through all the positive and negative points, and even concludes on sensible reasons where the car wins out over the motorcycle. He's not looking to use the vehicle as some sort of phallic symbol, or going into endless narrative about feature, X, Y and Z -- like J. Clarkson. He doesn't say the car is a boondoggle, he just points out where the bike wins. And it's with the acceleration. Commendable review.

  • @Cyan37
    @Cyan37 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My left ear enjoyed the show... -.-

  • @MuhammadRashidi
    @MuhammadRashidi 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    MCN now are actually better in term of their presentation... good job!
    love em

  • @GrecoRoman123
    @GrecoRoman123 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nolimittt I have the SLS AMG page at the mercedes-amg website open. Under Engine Specifications - Configuration they post AMG 6.3L V-8. Below that, under Displacement, they post 6,208 cc [which is 6.208 liters]. My understanding is that we are talking about the engine's displacement.

  • @Vatlol
    @Vatlol 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen, we need more people like you on the internets...

  • @christosswc
    @christosswc 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, I like this guy.
    He forgot to say that at the end of the day driving pleasure comes mainly from going round corners.
    These bikes have a bit too much power for the amount of grip.
    Straights don't last long but braking and cornering sure does.
    It comes down to preference, whether you like to drive a bike, a car or play golf.
    You can have more fun in a small GTI and a 250cc motorcycle.
    You can have more fun driving fast on a twisty road and there are no straights there.

  • @monomakes
    @monomakes 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    MCN videos are getting much better than they used to be!

  • @Groagun
    @Groagun 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This piece was very well shot and produced: MCN has stepped up it's game. I hope you do far more videos like this one.

  • @kalimera8764
    @kalimera8764 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    The videos are getting better and better! Filming, editing and sound quality! Great job. Quite a special shoutout this one!

  • @mugget
    @mugget 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Those car types are easily impressed because they don't know the meaning of the word acceleration from a motorbike."
    Haha - So true!!
    Oh yeah, awesome editing as well!

  • @CrankyHippo
    @CrankyHippo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow i applaud you MCN that you really stepped up your game with that editing and filming!
    Bike = Girlfriend & Car = for girlfriend

  • @sgtunix
    @sgtunix 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    These MCN videos have really come a far way. Congrats with a great video....

  • @ESPPsycho
    @ESPPsycho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I've been watching these videos for a long time. I can see how you've grown as a rider over the years. Your riding in this is outstanding.
    Very jealous here!

  • @crazyjoyce
    @crazyjoyce 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally, a properly decent video from MCN. wind noise down the mic is history?!

  • @pesciro
    @pesciro 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bikes and cars are totally different beasts, speed on a motorcycle is something that you have to experience personally to understand the feeling. A bike is way more intense.

  • @cafepk
    @cafepk 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great review!! in the eyes of a biker.... nothing compares....

  • @bradlez996
    @bradlez996 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 4:41 on the Ducati's speedo, it shows it getting to 185mph, then showed ---, which is what it shows when you go beyond the 300km/h barrier. you gotta check the bikes onboard telemetry system to see actual speed once it does that. it will show lap times, acceleration, braking, top speed.

  • @Cstalks1992
    @Cstalks1992 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    getting a lot better with the vids every time mcn impressed :)

  • @artx4321
    @artx4321 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    you do have to remember thought that the target markets for these things are worlds apart. Both are astounding machines.

  • @therealTOTOfan
    @therealTOTOfan 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow those guys are amazing.. and especially the big heavy police machine cornering is impressive. though what i meant with cars are faster in bends was related to faster cornering like at the race track

  • @Ryknfjor
    @Ryknfjor 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael, great job!! Loved the Vid
    Greetings from America

  • @Motasaikuru
    @Motasaikuru 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work Ian Jubb, very well shot and put together.

  • @thirdfey
    @thirdfey 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look up the specs of the car folks, the displacement of the motor is 6,208cc hence why he says 6.2 and not 6.3. Mercedes as well as other car makes tend to round up whenever they can. Great video btw, I can never seem to get my friends in fast cars to understand how much more faster a bike is then a car even when they see the numbers.

  • @dmbinns1
    @dmbinns1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to see a 1198 against a proper HyperCar. You know the cars that make the SLS AMG look slow in comparison. Pagani Huayra, Koenigsegg One, McLaren P1 etc.

  • @zepmon
    @zepmon 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a biker for 23 years of my 27 year life, i can say hand on heart that going fast in a straight line is crap, anyone can do it, in a tin box or on a bike, but making a bike go round a bend (ok its not as fast as a car in the corner) is a speciasl feeling of achievement that you made a machine that hates corners go round it fast. I find it far better than sitting in a seat turning a big circle, and the mid corner speed differance isnt important when you come out of the corner faster.

  • @kickerl7dakota
    @kickerl7dakota 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason they call it a 6.3 is because they are keeping with tradition. At one time, they actually had a 6.3 liter motor but then changed it to a 6.2 but didn't change the name because it is a franchised number for MB

  • @geekf1
    @geekf1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video. I'm more of a car guy but i love ducati so i'd probably choose the 1198 over the merc.

  • @blackblaud
    @blackblaud 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    All AMG engines sound fantastic, I've heard V12's and all kind of stuff, but this, I think this car sounds really, properly nice. It's really art, I can't think of a car that sounds better than this.

  • @GrecoRoman123
    @GrecoRoman123 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @fast89able I don't think the badge is correct. It is a 6.2 liter engine, according to car review programs like TopGear, if I'm not mistaken.

  • @OBS3RVE
    @OBS3RVE 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, really loving the new style of vids!

  • @jacklong6780
    @jacklong6780 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love how right when he says " it has a 6.2 liter engine" the camera man films the 6.3 badge on the car.

  • @undercovrr
    @undercovrr 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    why thank you. Your input is so useful.

  • @GrecoRoman123
    @GrecoRoman123 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nolimittt Or I could just go to the manufacturer's website. Mercedes posts the displacement as 6208 cm3. Which is closer to 6.2 liters than 6.3 liters.

  • @GOBbluthagain
    @GOBbluthagain 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best mcn video yet..

  • @cokyrobes
    @cokyrobes 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG they actually have a good quality video!!! At last MCN comes to the present day tech!

  • @uber0demon0tongue
    @uber0demon0tongue 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quality is amazing! Great video too.

  • @vancouverS1000rr
    @vancouverS1000rr 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's actually a 6.2L. it says 6.3 in order to pay homage to the older mercs

  • @warmswan
    @warmswan 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @LiterR1 Merc labels it as a 6.3 but its actual displacement is 6.208 afaik

  • @kasushi
    @kasushi 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Don´t stop making this videos!

  • @djm104
    @djm104 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this. I had a similar experience (on a much smaller scale!). Got to try a couple laps in a Lamborghini Murcielago and a Nissan GT-R - I thought it would blow my mind, but even though they were awesome, they weren't, as you say, like the Top Gear presenters would make you think. I use a Honda CBF125 to commute - not sure if there's a link between riding a motorbike and not being overwhelmed with a fast car?

  • @redlinerentals8784
    @redlinerentals8784 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Want to know how it feels to ride a Ducati 1198? Rent one out from Redline Rentals in NJ or FL

  • @therealTOTOfan
    @therealTOTOfan 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah bikes are slower in turns but they are so much faster on straights that they actually have a faster time around the whole track

  • @mrnicktoyou
    @mrnicktoyou 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Darylw27 Practicality is no comparison. Also yes, you could use a bike every day but a 1198 is a race bike. It will be used for the track or on weekends. Or to go to a cafe to show off.

  • @ErKa44
    @ErKa44 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    good presentation. I love cars, but for some reason i would go for the ducati.
    Hmm i wanna ride again :X

  • @jorgecosta95
    @jorgecosta95 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is good and all that but cars simply don't have that body-to-body connection that a bike has. In a bike you have to use every single bit of your body and you feel everything, in a car you just go 250km/h and say cool!
    I tested it myself, I couldn't afford a ducati or a SLS, I just used my YZF R125 which has a top speed of 130km/h and my merc, a C220 Cdi who has a top speed of 220-230 km/h and I got to say that the 130km/h on the YZF R125 feel much better!

  • @0nkelD0kt0r
    @0nkelD0kt0r 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is your complain? Lamgorghini was taken over by Audi and it is an advantage now for both brands. Audi got the knowledge to build the R8 and in return showed the Italians how to build a car that is more user friendly and more reliable. Don't be so pessimistic it might be good for Ducati when a little bit more money is involved now.

  • @AndreaPessino
    @AndreaPessino 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best MCN video yet! :)

  • @romeupb8372
    @romeupb8372 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its not really fair when they dont compare how fast the ducati can get on the same length, or even both laptimes!

  • @bigidiot123
    @bigidiot123 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like he said I don't care how fast the car is or how fast it is around a track. Nothing puts a smile on your face like a motorbike. Ducati 1198R or a Honda GROM, there's really nothing like it for me.

  • @ShaftDrive
    @ShaftDrive 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    very entertaining video. I can't wait till your review on the Panigale

  • @pritampns
    @pritampns 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work MCN ........ you guys are good in Cars too

  • @MatinDadib
    @MatinDadib 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael Neeves, never knew that you DRIVE is as good as you RIDE before.

  • @Ani2301
    @Ani2301 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even at 40mph, a bike is still able to put a smile on my face. Cars are amazing, but just don't have the excitement and risk as a bike does.

  • @denizio20
    @denizio20 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best video love it :) where do you shoot it . i want to find a waste land some sort in london to practice wheelies and slow controls any advise ? thanks

  • @robinsonMike
    @robinsonMike 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    came here to watch Ducati 1198 SP...,i love it

  • @Joos2000
    @Joos2000 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive production,guys. Good work!

  • @jimbo80982
    @jimbo80982 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    mcn dont just SAY it , PROVE it! Everyone knows the bike will win in terms of acceleration and its light , nimble design will definitely help. Show us a round the track race , 3 times for an average. THAT will wipe the smile off the top gear team. Then I will be satisfied! This is coming from a biker as well if anyones interested.

  • @IOMTT46
    @IOMTT46 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, it might say 6,3 on the side. But the displacement of the engine is actually 6208 cc or 6,2 L. So he's right when he says it's a 6,2. Don't ask me why Mercedes puts a 6,3 badge on the side?

  • @DontTestTheX
    @DontTestTheX 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think the reason most people 'like' things is based on how much things cost, so if it cost 180k they like over 18k bike. Makes them feel richer. But bike = not only 10 times cheaper but 10 times more excitement. And if one knows how to ride properly they are safer than cars...personally I find being smaller, faster and more nimble give me an advantage over driving a car, plus I have greater visibility without bits of car frame getting in the way...

  • @talk2leonardo
    @talk2leonardo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geez Patrick, it's not like he's criticising either. I love bikes & what better way to compare them than against the top line cars. I never tire of it personally & when new models come out I look fwd to seeing them compared as well. Besides do you know how many car drivers don't realise just how much more performance a bike has? Didn't realise it was an argument tho.

  • @Skandalos
    @Skandalos 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Nürburgring Nordschleife the best lap times are held by cars not motorbikes, and by quite a margin. Best car time: 6:11, best motorbike time: 7:49.

  • @benamin87
    @benamin87 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    "i know the one my girlfriend would like." that sums up the video for me!
    nice review

  • @FallRider-oc3vl
    @FallRider-oc3vl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ride a 2009 Ducati 1198s and I absolutely love my bike and wouldn't trade it for anything but when I see a hellcat I gotta say I'm almost breaking my neck when I go by lol also any car guy, if you want to win the car vs bike argument, the rain is all it takes to clip a superbike riders wings

  • @jimmyd1337
    @jimmyd1337 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knew a guy that raced bikes nearly getting into motogp. He said no car is remotely quick until it has atleast 350-400 bhp

  • @Dravensdmf
    @Dravensdmf 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video, best yet.

  • @pacrat90
    @pacrat90 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Brilliant episode, not based on content but purely on how well it was put together .. almost top-gear level stuff! but with none of the top gear waffle...

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon1962 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparison, thanks for that.

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a car guy & AMG fan, but the way those superbikes rack up speed is mind-boggling. I'd believe that not even a Lamborghini Aventador (or a Bugatti Veryon for that matter) can outrun these in a 1/4 mile. Not even slightly.
    I would still prefer the car though; I don't have to skills (nor balls) to ride these insane bikes which can throw you off for nailing the throttle too aggressively.

  • @Nolimittt
    @Nolimittt 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GrecoRoman123 Doesn't matter, they also call it 6.3 as it can be seen on their website if you go to sls amg then engine, it says AMG 6.3-Liter V8 engine

  • @LueXiong10
    @LueXiong10 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know why V/L twins don't sound to appealing on video but always sound 10X better in person.

  • @Denstoradiskmaskinen
    @Denstoradiskmaskinen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are none that dislikes bikes because none has survived a crash and can dislike

  • @anfman1986
    @anfman1986 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is a good thing, too, because I certainly never wear a jacket and gloves when I'm in my car, and I find standing still TERRIBLY difficult, I just sit down wherever I happen to be when I stop walking.

  • @bikezonly
    @bikezonly 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    For us bikers, 0-60 mph times remain quite constant, despite bikes getting more and more powerful, unfortunately. Still, 2.5sec kicks supercar butt, not mentioning roll-on acceleration! And for 10X less!

  • @Jayt750
    @Jayt750 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clearly Andrew, you're not the man. Mercs have always been 6.3. Mercedes lowered the cc but kept the 6.3 moniker for tradition.

  • @droceretik
    @droceretik 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's actually 6,208 cc. Mercedes chose to label it 6.3 liters. So it is correct to call it a 6.2 liter engine.

  • @MiiiK3EY
    @MiiiK3EY 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    bikes are not practical, u cant take friends, u cant transport things, any day is ruined by rain, you have to lug around bike gear, its dangerous, the cold destroys your fingers.
    ...,but i still love em.

  • @SondeBeeches
    @SondeBeeches 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny thing, but I think riding a bike actually makes you better at car control and breaking. Looks like he had decent control when he slid the merc through that bend leading onto the runway.

  • @WDLC1911
    @WDLC1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet when we compare times at the Nurburgring the best cars are slightly quicker which is a bit puzzling to me.

  • @ordi75
    @ordi75 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ballereast This is where you are wrong, "fastest" can be defined by many things, such as 0-60, a lap time around a given circuit, 0-100-0 and so on. As far as 0-60 goes, no F1 car can beat a top fuel dragster. Give or take, a dragster and an F1 car are both "the fastest", but so are a MotoGP bike and a drag bike.
    You can fairly test a car and a bike between each other if their power to weight ratio matches.

  • @oOKAMAKAYAOo
    @oOKAMAKAYAOo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the displacement is 6.2 but the badge has historical value so they left it on the car

  • @AndroidJdm
    @AndroidJdm 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @memorex1647 i believe The Ariel Atom 500 V8 would be the only car close enough to beating a car in stock form. On Top Gear it bearly beat a BMW S1000RR around the track. But the V8 atom costs about $150k

  • @TheRacerRich
    @TheRacerRich 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some sort of performance 911 (GT3, Turbo, etc), would have been a more interesting comparison than a SLS which is a luxury GT car.

    • @YA-ee9zf
      @YA-ee9zf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really amg is almost same and even better than the turbo in racing I saw them race live and its an exotic car not a luxury

  • @spartoob
    @spartoob 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone offered me one or the other I'd take the merc, it's a beautiful piece of engineering and I'm a biker.

  • @Bret3030
    @Bret3030 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review Guys!!

  • @carlosluna3239
    @carlosluna3239 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    SLS AMG GT & DUCATI DIAVEL CARBON my two loves... perfect combination !!!