Porsche 997 PCCM+ Install & Review *WORLD EXCLUSIVE* - FGP Prep Book EP43

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  • A world exclusive in the FGP workshop - Episode 43 of FGP Prep Book exhibits the first ever installation of the all-new 997.1 PCCM+, followed by a short review, expressing our thoughts on this exciting new product.

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  • @staffordshireusedcarmotorcompa
    @staffordshireusedcarmotorcompa ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This is my personal car in the video having the unit fitted (just fortuitous timing as my car was at FGP having air con and suspension work done when the PCCM+ units got delivered) and i just wanted to say that i've been using the unit for about 2 weeks now and it is a game changer compared to the original unit. Sound quality is great, having dab, apple car play and bluetooth for phone/music really does bring the car up to date. It charges my phone when it is plugged in for apple car play as well. It looks in keeping with the interior with the Porsche logo embossed on the front of the unit and a large Porsche crest that comes on the screen when you start the car. The service from FGP was outstanding.... fast, efficient, great value and totally professional at all times . A huge thank you to Luke, Olly and the team. Wishing you all a healthy and prosperous 2023.
    Regards,
    Paul.

    • @Dome-ee4mf
      @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, do you know if the front mask can be disassembled to be painted? My 997 has a white interior...

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dome-ee4mf mine arrives today, will have a look at the facia if its clipped on (I expect so).. stdby for update

    • @Dome-ee4mf
      @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stijnvandamme76 thank you!!!

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dome-ee4mf Looks pretty good , plastic has lips on top and bottom that go over metal and latch on, so wiggle off the 2 rotating knobs, and facia is easily removed.

    • @Dome-ee4mf
      @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stijnvandamme76 great news, thanks a lot! Do you have any pictures of those lips? Just to show them to the dealer.

  • @richardcraycroft931
    @richardcraycroft931 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Looking forward to the US release! It's quite disappointing that Car Play is not wireless! I would consider wireless Car Play to be a minimum feature for a new PCM. All the same, it looks fantastic and I will be replacing the Alpine I installed a few years ago. I lost rear speaker fader control, and all the car and trip info. And, thank God, actual knobs will be back in the car.

    • @rcn5008
      @rcn5008 ปีที่แล้ว

      While I agree that wireless Apple CarPlay is ideal, I do not like the newest generation of wireless chargers in most vehicles. Especially when the phone has a case on it, they do not work well at all and the phone frequently has to cut charging off because it is getting too hot. I know this has nothing to do with wireless CarPlay but having to plug in your phone to get CarPlay has the added benefit of charging the phone correctly. It only takes a few seconds and then you have the "bonus" of having a charged up phone when you are done driving or have reached your destination. Just something to consider...

  • @CareyFan
    @CareyFan ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Why they didn't allow for wireless CarPlay is a mystery. It's likely such a simple/easy hardware adjustment for them.

    • @DenisQuentinSimon
      @DenisQuentinSimon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      especially with the front facing USB, it looks fussy. At least with an external box you can hide the cables

  • @AlexSmith-de2le
    @AlexSmith-de2le ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lovely job and it really seems worth getting the Porsche product above a generic double din aftermarket unit.

  • @iborguk
    @iborguk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks very much for the video guys.
    The product FAQ suggests the reverse camera support is for the factory Cayenne camera
    "12. Will the factory-installed rear view camera of my first-generation Cayenne continue to be supported?? Yes, the factory-installed rear view camera is connected to the PCCM Plus by means of a multi-adapter."

  • @friendsgreenporsche5234
    @friendsgreenporsche5234  ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For interested watchers, we took reservation deposits for all five units within 24 hours of taking delivery of them and posting images on social media. We have another ten due for delivery, so please be in touch if you’d like one fitted to your car.

    • @Dome-ee4mf
      @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, do you know if the front plate can be removed to be painted? My 997 has a white interior...

    • @bjarneen1686
      @bjarneen1686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, what about the rear camera? Did you get feedback from Porsche on that?

    • @stevestarnes9198
      @stevestarnes9198 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, great video! I have a 2008 997.1 and would like to get car play - I am in the EU, so I will need that version - thank

  • @PavlosP
    @PavlosP ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why don’t you plug in a reverse camera while it’s not mounted in and see if it responds?

  • @IainRose
    @IainRose ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks guys! Do you know if the stock USB and aux port in the centre console still work with the new unit?

  • @chrisnesci
    @chrisnesci ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very curious about the camera. That was the only reason I was going with an aftermarket head unit. Wireless ACP would have been nice but honestly it's more reliable with the wire. Is there a usb in the back of the unit?

  • @beniscooked
    @beniscooked ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went with the Nav-TV adapter cable about 10 years ago that lets me run any aftermarket headunit I want with my 997.1TT (including wireless Carplay) -- works beautifully for me. Good to see Porsche is putting effort into making an official solution though - not many manufacturers have this kind of dedication to their products.

  • @Shane1112
    @Shane1112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will the 996 PCCM Plus every get updated to allow a reversing camera? And usb on the facia? I have held off getting the PCCM Plus because of the lack of a reversing camera input

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That caused me some hesitation but in the end, I’ve gone for PCCM+ on my 996.2, despite no camera. The improvements on satnav, ability to Bluetooth my phone, legal (hands free) phone calls make it necessary to enjoy my car.
      Also, silly reason #5, sticky main buttons will get replaced 🙃

  • @richeymadison82
    @richeymadison82 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you very much for posting this! I have been waiting forever for this to come out. I'm planning to get one for sure....gotta find out what happens with my CD changer....and I wonder if you could splice the microphone connector for this unit onto leads the OEM mics and bypass using the included one?!

    • @jamessinger8496
      @jamessinger8496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know it is a bit silly but I also like having a 6 disc changer. I am oooolllld!! hahaha. Great Video guys!!

    • @richeymadison82
      @richeymadison82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamessinger8496 Yeah I want to keep my changer too....wish they wouldn't stop including disc players in the cars...

  • @justinbiggs3513
    @justinbiggs3513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid, is there any indication when Porsche will release the PCCM+ for the 997 1.5 and .2 ?

  • @michaelywong
    @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you so much for showing this.
    I am actually the designer for the buttons + knobs oem-looking 987/997 android unit to be released worldwide shortly.
    I just want to say that i can definitely appreciate what porsche has done here. I love the
    - oem nav info directed to the instrument cluster - very cool. i am guessing that this functionality will not work under waze/google maps under carplay/AA?
    - hvac memory controls
    - full oem pcm functionality being able to access core functionality without piwis / durametric / foxwell530
    - bracket mounting system with the heat clearance to install the fibre optic box (i wish I had thought of this)
    - 4 (fader control) via the fibreOptic adapter. almost all of the aftermarket fibreOptic adapters are 2 channel. Definitely great that porsche has retained this.
    As for the reverse trigger issue that I see, it is amazing that the pcm harness intercepts the reverse trigger signal in the 997.1. I'm going to guess this was done via proper canBus decoding for the .1 (the afterrmarket canBus decoders have been able to decode the .2 reverse trigger but not the .1 cars). I couldnt find the physical reverse wire in the .1 radio harness, but i did certainly try (unsuccessfully) - so i grabbed it from either the kick panel / tail light.
    Based on my own experience with my unit, I am guessing that porsche will do is likely supply a harness that will fit in remaining unused android slots that will have
    - RCA rear cam AHD input
    - power/ground splice for rear cam
    If they wanted to go all out with this upgrade, with the above features that seem to be coming, perhaps they can still add
    - a RCA front cam AHD input (i have this on my 997.1 in my android 997 prototype unit and its very useful)
    - maybe even a rear USB input (that can be extended) for usb carplay input that can be re-routed in the centre console armrest ( i have this in my 997 too)
    - tpms sensor upgrade + module (for 2005/2006 cars) - i have this supported in my android unit for my 05)
    - wireless carplay/AA support
    - firmware flash to enable the above (if needed)
    I cant wait to give this badboy a test in person in due time and compare. Looks great and has some amazing features I wish I could have implemented / thought of.
    Thanks for this video

    • @Szlasa
      @Szlasa ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the brand for your android unit you’re involved in? I’ve used xtrons android units in 997/987 cars but they lack buttons.

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Szlasa owTowsin - it was the most sold android unit worldwide for the 997s due to the rennlist + facebook retroFit threads. I am trying to see if i can get a coupon Code to further help.

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +3

      btw guys - the reverse camera situation has been fully figured out on RennList , including the reverse trigger for manual cars.

    • @bjarneen1686
      @bjarneen1686 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelywong do you have a link to that?

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjarneen1686 did you find it? Easily found on rennlist 997 forum

  • @ae8920
    @ae8920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NIce video, thanks.
    Have you heard any info, if the 997 PCCM+ will also come for the 997.2 FL from 2009 onward?
    Regrads
    Andreas

  • @philnelson2607
    @philnelson2607 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very impressive and with the additional features on this model over the 996 version. Would definitely justify the cost especially with the reversing camera fitted. Noice 👌🏼😊

  • @squicker
    @squicker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Issue I have with PCCM Plus is it's still very backwards technologically speaking, yet double the price of a high-end non-Porsche install. The fact it does not have wireless CarPlay is laughable at that price point, it is 2023, not 2013.
    Thank you for the video though, it is nice and in depth; I had been mulling PCCM Plus for my 997 Turbo, but now I can see just how outdated it already is, it just doesn't make any sense. I'll keep my original PCM, as I am sure I'll get the usual bunch of beard strokers when I sell it, but the basic nature of PCCM Plus seems like a lost opportunity from Porsche.

  • @oranm2092
    @oranm2092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just had the unut installed in the US for my 07 997, not bose.. but the sound volume, bass response (turned up at equalizer) and clarity seems to be worse that mmy original porche sound package plus when playing cd's so now thinking about amplifier and speaker upgrade. Feels like the amplifier is underpowered compared to the original Becker unit. Did anyone else experience the same performance drop ?

  • @jesusnavarrete6317
    @jesusnavarrete6317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Least They are offering something and that's amazing from a car brand. I bet you Mercedes will say you're on your own Chief.

  • @stephensummers2686
    @stephensummers2686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As usual, thank you very much for a great video, very interesting and informative. Now I need to find good installer in Provence.

  • @anthonyprior9859
    @anthonyprior9859 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not having wireless CarPlay is a bit of a shocker these days! Is their a USB socket at the back of the unit to put on a Bluetooth dongle at least?

    • @jastandiford
      @jastandiford ปีที่แล้ว

      good question, I hope so too!

    • @theXbaT1
      @theXbaT1 ปีที่แล้ว

      no usb at the back :/ no wirless carplay for us...

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      Design was probably finalized before wireless Apple CarPlay was introduced.

  • @daviddunville2293
    @daviddunville2293 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic,you guys are quite simply THE BEST👍

  • @Rynardts
    @Rynardts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice! I wish they could do something similar to bring the 991.1 up a notch as well. I'd love DAB+ and Android Auto on my 991.1. I know there are 3rd party upgrades available to the PCM3.1, but it would be good if Porsche could do something from the factory.

  • @olivier2004
    @olivier2004 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice looking unit🤩 Some stupid already outdated futures: no wireless CarPlay. USB A and not usb c, so need to use a dongle for modern iphone cables…😖 Why a not everything allready in the unit but on/in top bracket….. Still love the look!❤

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      Design probably finalized before these features introduced.

  • @taylorpdx9194
    @taylorpdx9194 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! Thank you! Years ago I installed an Alpine unit in my 997.1. A volume knob is mandatory in my book so the options at the time were limited. I would have killed for an OE Porsche unit, especially with CarPlay. Install was a pain because the full size double-din box and MOST fiberoptic adapter had to be crammed into the space. This install looks like a piece of cake in comparison. Now I'm at a crossroads. Do I toss the perfectly good Alpine and spend $1300 just to upgrade my weekend fun toy?? It's not even my DD. The devil is whispering into my ear that I should do it.

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm ok with the exposed usb, since Ill stick a small usb stick with MP3's in there anyway
    but they could have put a flap/cap over that map thingie, since nobody will ever change that on any decent frequency
    and put a USB on a lead in the back so you can put it in the glove comparement with your phone, or in the center console comparement with an extension

  • @GeneGatech
    @GeneGatech ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Friends Green Porsche - is the rotary controller now work correctly or is it backwards like the original pcm?

    • @mikelewis5049
      @mikelewis5049 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the same as original PCM - they are very handy - you can control just about everything - even when in Apple CarPlay

  • @bhaveshashok565
    @bhaveshashok565 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, this is a great video! I'm already on Suncoast's waiting list for the 987/997 PCCM+ unit. How can I reach out to you to see if I can pick one up from you guys stateside? Excited to get my hands on one soon - I've held off on any aftermarket units for years now to pick a PCCM+ unit up.

    • @Roland_Rohrle
      @Roland_Rohrle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good on you for waiting. That way you get to keep all the trip info etc 👍😎

    • @danrook5757
      @danrook5757 ปีที่แล้ว

      Į bought one in Toronto canada this week, they have 6 in stock

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a good product, wireless Carplay, easier to install

  • @elipairoux1347
    @elipairoux1347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid guys. Looks like it ticked all my boxes (real audiophiles always opt for wired, plus the wired carplay keeps the phone charged). I will have my installer connecting the rear cam as well. The only minor design flaw is the USB not to be USB-C. I hope it is at least 3.2. (2017) to work with USB-C cables. AS UBS4 (C) came out in 2021, Porsche must be designing this unit for some years ;-).

    • @Stushbush
      @Stushbush ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see lots of questions in the comments about the backup camera. You mentioned you were having it fitted. Did it work? Did you need anything special? Anything you can share would be useful.

  • @tomburns890
    @tomburns890 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, I’m in the US and getting ready to install the PCCm plus in my 997.1 Turbo Tiptronic. Do I need to remove the CD player in the frunk or no? And does the amp need to be removed or no? I have an orange loop MOST connector but not sure it’s needed if CD changer & or amp doesn’t needed to be removed. Thank you for any help?

  • @jasonthelwell3575
    @jasonthelwell3575 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally the wait is over 🙂, one question does the front "grey" facia come off easily? I've had my centre PCM/HVAC section painted matt black so would need to be able to remove the facia plate to have it painted to match.

    • @Dome-ee4mf
      @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว

      Same question for me, I've white interiors

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the facia is clipped on.. remove the turn buttons and unclip to paint

  • @markbryan9115
    @markbryan9115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 987 Cayman would this work in my Porsche? I have a error amplifier not available message. Does this use the existing amplifier? I was looking for an upgrade to my system, the price is a bit high, but its looks so original and that makes it worth it for me. I would hate to order this and find I still have the same problem. Ive been thru all the reset suggestions, the radio seems to function, but just no sound.

  • @brookieboydabom
    @brookieboydabom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is making me consider older Porsches for my next. Something about the 987 Boxster is drawing me in now that I can have a factory look and CarPlay in a modern classic. Personally, I think the majority of users will use CarPlay or Android Auto 90% of the time - as I do with the JoyeAuto unit on my 981. Makes you wonder why they bothered with the PCCM+ navigation tbh!

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The PCCM+ nav always works, even if there is no cellular network, or the phone battery is dead, or your phone breaks on a trip or is pickpocketed, or you drop it in the toilet... It's just always there...

    • @JuanAdam12
      @JuanAdam12 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the JoyeAuto working out for you? I’m considering it but have yet to find an installer to do the job.

    • @brookieboydabom
      @brookieboydabom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JuanAdam12 it’s great. Do it yourself. :)

  • @hsv6ltr
    @hsv6ltr ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What happens with cars that have SportChrono?

    • @friendsgreenporsche5234
      @friendsgreenporsche5234  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is a very good question. I will revert back to your comment with the answer as soon as I have it.

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Friends Green Porsche any update?

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว

      My chrono seems to function as intended

  • @Jean-JacquesMouron
    @Jean-JacquesMouron ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello gentlemen's, thank you very much for your video. It helps me a lot for the installation of my PCCM+! However, I have a question: The cable PCG.645.573.00 is used to connect what with what? My configuration: PCM 2.1, GPS, Bose. Thank you from Switzerland.

  • @chrisdixon2357
    @chrisdixon2357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope we don’t have to wait many more years for the 997.2 PCCM

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a good product, wireless Carplay, easier to install

  • @glennturnbull8568
    @glennturnbull8568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you guys know if you can spec this unit with a leather surround? My Turbo has full leather including the PCM unit and heater controls below, so the standard grey finish shown here would look out of place. Thanks.

    • @phildrouet3921
      @phildrouet3921 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!

    • @mikelewis5049
      @mikelewis5049 ปีที่แล้ว

      No - it is only available in the colour shown in this video so far

  • @timprice5
    @timprice5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That looks a great unit to get an OE look, however I'd be lieing if I said I was happy with how the microphone fits and no rear USB. Seems like they could have made the mic fit the original location and just replaced the OE item.
    Not quite sure about the interference issue on the longer USB leads - none of the aftermarket units seem to have this issue.
    Also seems a bit weird that they didn't just make the unit full double-DIN as having to put in the separate MOST adapter seems a bit odd for an OE solution.
    Otherwise the ability for it to communicate with the instrument cluster is brilliant, that's the only thing I 'miss' about my Pioneer - oh and front/rear MOST balance and fade which would be good to have.

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Re the most hur adapter - it’s Becuz it’s based on an android 6 device, not an oem becker unit. That’s why none of the oem mic, gps etc is compatible
      With that said this is the ONLY aftermarket unit with a 4 channel fiber optic converter - porsche may have ponied up the cash to develop this custom part.
      Also kudos to how all the canBus programming is on point re native to porsche internal internal functions. Ie trip computer etc

    • @stevehoward7
      @stevehoward7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, i've got to ask. What is MOST? I keep seeing it posted, but don't understand what it means.

    • @timprice5
      @timprice5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevehoward7 Media Oriented System Transport
      It's a Fibre Optic communication network for the audio system, the cars with BOSE tend to use it.

  • @cbrAndy100
    @cbrAndy100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, do you have part numbers for the two antenna boosters and the module bypass lead? I'm trying to convert my Boxster 987.1 windscreen from AM/FM to DAB.
    Would I need a new coax lead to the radio?

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kind of disappointed that they didn't get the OBC working on the 996 like they did here, taking a look through the documentation it looks like it was all in software...

  • @brucevivra
    @brucevivra 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice integration! same color, same buttons to keep the original style. It seems the CD/MP3 player is gone but I guess you can still play the 6 CDs in the charger? Does it play music from the USB-A port with a stick connected to it? Also, does it have a wireless Apple Car play or one needs to use the USB-A port with the phone connected to it? Is there any plan to add the USB-C as well?

  • @awachtel
    @awachtel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, excited that they've finally released these for the 997s.

  • @djrod1972
    @djrod1972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi there.. My 997 has a stock disc changer in the glove box. Does anyone know if this new unit will still control or allow access to the cd deck in the glove box? Please let me know if you know.. Thanks

  • @Dome-ee4mf
    @Dome-ee4mf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi all, a couple of weeks ago I had pccm plus installed on my 997 turbo with bose. Everything works quite well, but the volume at maximum is low. Have you noticed the same thing too?

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same issue!! The tuner volume is fine (normal) car play and Bluetooth volume SUCKS. VERY disappointing

  • @bjcrazynl
    @bjcrazynl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 987 Cayman S first generation and I'm very curious because I have the CDR 24 sound system with 10 speakers. If I install the PCCM Plus will I get the same features like the models with sat nav? I can't wait to have this in my Porsche!

    • @kickddownbg
      @kickddownbg ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you will it comes with the needed hardware - GPS antenna, cables, etc.

  • @Francois997.2
    @Francois997.2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gummi knob you clean with 98% alcohol, problem solved and will never ever come back again.

  • @edbrn
    @edbrn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this completely bypasses the BOSE system amplifier? And do you ship internationally?

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no it uses the BOSE , it connects to the MOST fiber network

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install, with 2 USB cables, you can put it where you want without restriction

  • @martinolesen164
    @martinolesen164 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It makes me frustated that Porsche choose to not have wireless carplay and that the usb is in the front of the unit and no USB out the back. Had bought it right away if it had those features

  • @Zsanky
    @Zsanky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the PCCM plus for the 996, have the same navigation steps in the instrument cluster?

    • @friendsgreenporsche5234
      @friendsgreenporsche5234  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it does.

    • @brianman233
      @brianman233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@friendsgreenporsche5234 Does the instrument cluster navigation work with CarPlay, or only the built-in sat nav?

  • @redundantrobert
    @redundantrobert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this information so quickly. I drove 500 miles recently with my newly installed PCCM+ thanks to you!!

  • @KingReza
    @KingReza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The USB for 996 I have got Porsche center put in the glovebox on my car, looks much better and more clean

    • @medicusmd4978
      @medicusmd4978 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I know, the Media Box of the 996 does not work on the PCCM+ 997.

  • @robertallport9401
    @robertallport9401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi FGP. Whats available for the 991.1 please? 2014 C4S . Love your content BTW.

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install, with 2 USB cables, you can put it where you want without restriction

  • @PaulPeard
    @PaulPeard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great post guys - well done for getting this done and out there - brilliant to see it in the flesh. Couple of observations (on the unit - not your install or video) - I think it's a backwards step to only have USB presentation on the front - I would want to be able to route a cable from the rear to an armrest cubby or the glovebox - phone cable hanging out the front is horrid., would have preferred the box like the 9x6 version if I couldn't just run the cable where I wanted it. Also - massive miss that it's not available for a .2 car, that just seems like a marketing decision to me. Anyway - thanks for this - very very good.

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      The .2 car has a different PCM, so yet another unit has to be designed. And, given that Porsche's policy is apparently to introduce such units circa 15 years after the cars went out of production, the .2 unit isn't expected until late 2026/early 2027.

    • @PaulPeard
      @PaulPeard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigel.w yup - PCM 3 is different to PCM2 but the differences aren't massive when it comes to interface and connectivity to the car. A different fascia ( which they already did for the Cayenne) and some additional logic for the slightly different canbus signals required. but the .2 Canbus setup is very similar to a .1 there isn't a large engineering effort. When they decide to bring it to market is purely a marketing decision, nothing is going to change on the .2 cars in the next few years - all that is going to happen is fewer people will be prepared to pay that kind of premium on cars that are by then worth a lot less than they are today - and the market will be further narrowed because people will turn to 3rd party solutions. It seems a flawed approach to me

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaulPeard I largely agree. But maybe they don't want to be constantly updating these kind of units? So the resultant logic is maybe to market new units every four years, and upgrade the units every 15 years? Obviously, I don't really know. However, I think your reasoning is basically sound in so far as the demand for such units when the cars are worth significantly less may well be lower. Then again, maybe not. For sure, some will go third party in the meantime. Then again, some people in this thread who already went third party on their .1s said they're going to replace their thrid party units with this. Anyway, it is obviously very frustrating for current .2 owners, and to be further frustrated by no explicit policy from Porsche about expected release dates.

  • @Vic-E.
    @Vic-E. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review, thanks.
    Is there some form of integration with sport chrono stopwatch like in the original unit? (storing intermediate times etc.)

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      based on the manual released 6 months ago - it is all supported. uses all original canBus info.

    • @Vic-E.
      @Vic-E. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelywong i gave a look to the manual and didn't find anything about the stopwatch... maybe I missed something

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm - I could be wrong. I quickly skimmed it and since I saw many porsche canBus specific features retained - I assumed the sport chronos features all retained as well

  • @713vinh
    @713vinh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do they make a similar unit for the 997.2?

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install,

  • @mojitomoab1877
    @mojitomoab1877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for this a long time but no reverse camera?!

  • @michaelmctomney2555
    @michaelmctomney2555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any more info on reversing camera??? Cheers

  • @rafaelchandle9054
    @rafaelchandle9054 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Omg, that looks brilliant, I want that in my 997 turbo. Had a aftermarket system fitted last year but this looks ace. Definitely on my list of to do’s

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว

      So far I'm very unimpressed with my new uni

    • @mak23997
      @mak23997 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@David-hn5ix Could you please explain further? I have a 997 turbo and am looking to upgrade as well.

    • @David-hn5ix
      @David-hn5ix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MAK23 I have a volume problem with Bluetooth and car play. I took it to porsche unfortunately i knew more about the unit than they did. My original bose system sounded MUCH better with a wireless $12 Bluetooth adapter. Unit looks great. Easy to install.

    • @mak23997
      @mak23997 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@David-hn5ix thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear about that. It’s funny you mention that because I have a $12 Bluetooth adapter as well ha ha. And honestly it doesn’t sound bad. It’s just when trying to make phone calls it’s not the best for the recipient, and of course, it’s an old system. I have the Bose stereo system as well. Now it almost makes me wonder if I should even do it. $1500 plus God knows how much labor at the dealership or the headache of doing it myself to basically get a touchscreen?

  • @brudomen
    @brudomen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, if this is already been asked, but does the unit support a reverse camera for a manual 997.1

    • @ryantheallstar
      @ryantheallstar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @lajerbalazs
      @lajerbalazs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryantheallstar Do you mean tear is a 997.1 factory reverse camera? And it works? Or an aftermarket one?

  • @UncleDuncan5092
    @UncleDuncan5092 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got a Cayman S 987.1 2006 with Bose & Phone that I bought new, and I’ll tell you those graphics looked dated in 2006 and the GSM stopped working 11 years ago due to telecom protocol here in the USA. I hope I can find one 0:13 of these PCCM+ units because my PCM screen just fried.

  • @jinlinghou9210
    @jinlinghou9210 ปีที่แล้ว

    I currently have a 2016 911 carrera S. Very disappointed that No PCCM PLUS fits my car. Any suggestions about how to get a carplay for my car???? Thank you!

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anybody have working DRL with a Cayman??
    Mine has the canbus working, i see external temp; trip computer works.. but the daylight running , despite turned on.. No working lights when the lights knob is OFF

  • @spyder_man
    @spyder_man ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job lads, great looking unit.
    What did you mean regarding bypassing the amp, is that the am/fm amp loop shown in the video or the optional amp thats sometimes fitted in the front by the toolkit?
    I have the extra amp in the front, which means an additional brown plug to whats shown in the video. I can see there is a space for it on the new unit, must go straight in as no adapter is provided?

    • @michaelmctomney7568
      @michaelmctomney7568 ปีที่แล้ว

      ariel amp

    • @mikelewis5049
      @mikelewis5049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelmctomney7568 with the install you dont bypass the antenna amp, you replace them. The Fibre bypass cable is for bypassing the CD Changer and Amp in the boot. They are no longer required/used with the new head unit

  • @iain3915
    @iain3915 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well done getting this out so soon. Impressed with all the integration with the dash and other settings. Does it facilitate bass and fader adjustment on Bose cars (where normally aftermarket fitments do not)?

  • @alanbaxter5897
    @alanbaxter5897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the backup camera is designed only to work with Cayenne factory installed camera. Always a work around for the clever I guess. Great product though other than not designing it to work with after market cameras as well.

    • @michaelmctomney2555
      @michaelmctomney2555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Defo works with an aftermarket camera - i fitted one from amazon

  • @entecomfrantsenamesco4660
    @entecomfrantsenamesco4660 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Has anyone experience with installing a rear view camera on the PCCM? We don’t get it detected by the PCCM. Any help?

  • @entecomfrantsenamesco4660
    @entecomfrantsenamesco4660 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Has anyone experience with installing a rear view camera on the PCCM? We don’t get it detected by the PCCM. Any help?

    • @michaelmctomney2555
      @michaelmctomney2555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try a factory reset then set up again- it worked for me

  • @donaldshreves4721
    @donaldshreves4721 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the center set of pins used for on the lower right side of the PCCM+? There are three sets, the right side is for the AM/FM and Sirius XM, the Left Side is the Can Bus....but the center set is not used. What is it for? I have having left over parts or pieces not used!

  • @tom24057
    @tom24057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the speaker sound quality any better?

    • @friendsgreenporsche5234
      @friendsgreenporsche5234  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It does appear to be better amplified with more clarity to sound, which is the same with the 996 PCCM+.

    • @tom24057
      @tom24057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@friendsgreenporsche5234 thanks for clarification! 👍🏼

  • @Coreal07
    @Coreal07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any word on a PCCM+ release for the 997.2 cars? I'm desperate for an upgrade.

  • @ugunt
    @ugunt ปีที่แล้ว

    There are two Fakra connectors visible at 12:51. Where does the beige Frakra come from? How is it to be used in conventional radio with DIN connector?

  • @julian987r4
    @julian987r4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No wireless Apple CarPlay, note to Porsche it is 2022! its a fail for that very point in my opinion. Plus its £2K inc fitting & VAT

    • @michaelmctomney7568
      @michaelmctomney7568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your price is wrong - plugging it in isnt the end of the world, condsidering its now at least in this century

    • @julian987r4
      @julian987r4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelmctomney7568 it’s not far off £2k all told. Plugging it in is a complete fail considering Apple are moving towards a future of no wires/ports. This unit is archaic from its launch.

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      It's 1799 installed. Wireless Apple CP probably didn't exist when the design was finalized.

    • @mikelewis5049
      @mikelewis5049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree - plugging in isnt an issue for me. Charges my phone while in the car. You cant beat the original styling - which in my opinion is a lot more ugly. The price I paid is less than £1,300 and fit the unit myself - taking my time and being very patient took 3 hours.

  • @TheEddysGarage
    @TheEddysGarage ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks great

  • @francismagbag3698
    @francismagbag3698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from California. Is the antenna amplifier included in the box? The american version doesn’t come with it. Where do you plug and place it?

  • @michaelmctomney7568
    @michaelmctomney7568 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought apple carplay dongle from Amazon, which works great, its hidden in the space below the PCCM. TBH tho its probaly easier to plug it in as the phone charges at the same time. The USB should be on the other side of the unit for RHD as the charging cable is in the way, my phone holder is on the passenger sidr of the console. - No idea why they didnt have a USB at the rear of the unit,
    Overall very pleased it brings the car up to date - ish !! You dont need the map SD card, as soon as the phone is connected it will use Apple maps.
    Anyone fitted the reverse camera and if so which one ?

  • @kickddownbg
    @kickddownbg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any news on the RVC?

  • @benterry28
    @benterry28 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, could you tell me if in Carplay mode you get the song listing and/or navigation directions on the instrument cluster or does is permanently say APP or APP Navigation like the 996 model

  • @scotdoc
    @scotdoc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pity not compatible with my 997 gen 1.5 😢

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the Turbo, right? Had the PCM 3.0, as in the .2 cars?

  • @ryantheallstar
    @ryantheallstar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone been able to get the camera working?

    • @ryantheallstar
      @ryantheallstar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update: My auto shop was able to get the reverse camera working with my manual C2S.

    • @lajerbalazs
      @lajerbalazs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryantheallstar Can you please let us know more? Witch brand and type of camera? Witch port to connect?

    • @bjarneen1686
      @bjarneen1686 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryantheallstar This is good news and first time I have seen this confirmed. Name of the auto shop?

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice however, £2k is a hell of a lot without full car play integration.

  • @nathanastbury4469
    @nathanastbury4469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta get this, will be in touch in the new year

  • @axparamo
    @axparamo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a nice unit but it seems to me that it's already outdated if it doesn't support wireless Apple Carplay..

    • @michaelywong
      @michaelywong ปีที่แล้ว

      i wouldnt be surprised if a paid oem firmware upgrade will be out in a year that will support wireless CP/AA

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w ปีที่แล้ว

      Design probably finalized before feature introduced.

    • @weed46
      @weed46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nigel.w Only if they finalized the design 5 years ago

  • @lawryfreeman9235
    @lawryfreeman9235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great overview video and the unit is a game changer as mentioned in the previous comment. In my view, the 997 is even more the perfect modern classic!

  • @medicusmd4978
    @medicusmd4978 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as I know, the Media Box of the 996 does not work on the PCCM+ 997.

  • @GaryMMann
    @GaryMMann ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there! Nice vid - on the subject of MOST/Bose, do you get the impression that its digital all the way to the amp? Or do you think the external MOST box is doing the same as other aftermarket solutions (i.e. A2D conversion of the line-level output). Ignition noise/interference is a bit of a problem on my current aftermarket Bose solution.

  • @JustMeinYoutube
    @JustMeinYoutube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waiting for the 997.2 to come out…

    • @friendsgreenporsche5234
      @friendsgreenporsche5234  ปีที่แล้ว

      We have no info on when a variant for the second generation cars will be available. But, saying that, we also had next to no info on when this variant would be released. Porsche themselves seem to know very little about the unit. In fact, a lot of dealers seem to know very little about the 996 PCCM+, or how to fit it, and that unit has been out for over two years now!

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install,

  • @milanmilinkovic8366
    @milanmilinkovic8366 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m on the cusp of buying it but still trying to find out about the backup camera. My local Porsche dealership (in Canada) didn’t have an answer over the phone so I’m still on the fence with my stereo upgrade for my 987.1

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a good product, wireless Carplay, easier to install

  • @CjBlok-ic3dy
    @CjBlok-ic3dy ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great. I'm seriously in doubt to buy this. What would u say: is it possible to run a hidden wire with USB-connection to the armrest or hide wireless connection-box ?

  • @СергейАндреев-й6э
    @СергейАндреев-й6э ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! Did you try to use 95B camera for pcm4? Might work...

  • @40yrolddad15
    @40yrolddad15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys how much is it for you to supply and fit one (997.1) and how long do you need the car for?

  • @medicusmd4978
    @medicusmd4978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. The rear connectors are the same like the PCCM on the 996. So I think, you could connect the external mediabox from the 996 there. Have you ever tried it?
    Did you connect an extra cable for the possible rearview camera?

  • @lajerbalazs
    @lajerbalazs ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Did you tried to connect a reverse (backup) camera?

  • @JustCalmDownFFS
    @JustCalmDownFFS ปีที่แล้ว

    The usb in the front of the deck is nice for a stick. But let's face it, we're going to use it for our phones. I'd rather have at least one usb socket in the back where I can route the cord through the dash and strategically place my phone exactly where I want without drapng a wire across the front if the console. Other than that, I think its perfect.

    • @androidcarnavi6144
      @androidcarnavi6144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have good products, with wireless Carplay, easier to install, with 2 USB cables, you can put it where you want without restriction

  • @UkztactiicZ
    @UkztactiicZ ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been on my list to do for over 4yrs on my 2005 997.1, And its STILL on the list :(

  • @blmfldwolf8068
    @blmfldwolf8068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have an issue where I don't get any sound out of the speakers; did that happen for you guys? Everything is connected like it's supposed to... Baffled.

  • @lanexang8127
    @lanexang8127 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have one for 2008 ? carrera S ? Cabriolet

  • @SBFRuggedYou
    @SBFRuggedYou ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this work for the 997.2 generation?

  • @dardog7734
    @dardog7734 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t be happy with no Bluetooth Apple carplay. Good review

  • @lcouri1924
    @lcouri1924 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to install the PCCM + with an aftermarket amp? I noticed there are no RCA outs for an amp?

  • @Theocurrie
    @Theocurrie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You legend