Problems With The Cheapest Air Bag Suspension?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2020
  • Going over some of the issues that I've had with the bagged Mercedes W126. I bagged this 300 SDL with the cheapest parts I could find and of course that means I ran into a couple failures. Namely the scary situation of a ptc fitting blowing out the line... twice.
    If you want to see more on this project car be sure to subscribe!
    Bags - www.ebay.com/itm/4-2500-lb-Ai...
    Compressor - www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Air-C...
    Tank - www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-Bla...
    Line - www.ebay.com/itm/50-FT-1-4-OD...
    Paddle Valves - www.ebay.com/itm/2-Manual-Pad...
    Bag Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Suspensi...
    Tank Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-NPT-MALE...
    PTC Tee Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/5-pcs-T-shap...
    Mounting Cup DIY Kit - www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Ride-Sus...
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  • @DukeManlyMakes
    @DukeManlyMakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm planing on bagging my project car, thank you for "project honesty." Too many channels act like their projects go seamlessly and it's a little disheartening.

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I got a good video coming out on these cars soon, don't miss it!

    • @Rossithailand
      @Rossithailand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you need to get shorter shocks when you get air ?

  • @syedahmed8067
    @syedahmed8067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guy gets it.
    "My car goes up and down and I spent 600$." Enough said.

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Oh it doesn't go up nearly as slow as I was expecting from what you said. Not bad at all. Holy crap that free Rabbit is a good one. That's the beefiest back seat I've ever seen. You should be able to add some rear sound deadening to dull the compressor noise a bit. Def happy to see more vids.

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep time for dynamat. Thought about it while editing the video.

  • @xoxo98808
    @xoxo98808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your merc is the best project car on yt! The budget build content is great!

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks dude, more to come!

  • @AaronBonBarron
    @AaronBonBarron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So you've pretty much convinced me to install bags in my Toyota Tarago / Van.
    As soon as I work out a way to replace a torsion bar with an airbag lol

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im sure there's a way haha sounds like more brain power than i have.

    • @david929190
      @david929190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Take the torsion bar out and grind the hex or splined end so it slips in the hole. Weld on an arm off the torsion bars now moving end and put an air bag between the new arm and something rigid.

  • @bigkeg9173
    @bigkeg9173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fast drop is great. Lifting up is after the party, if you know what I mean.
    Great job, love it 👍

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks man good way to look at things haha.

  • @1stupidfish
    @1stupidfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's actually a very respectable amount of time. The factory air ride system in Lincoln's and some Chevys take several minutes to go from empty up to standard ride height.

  • @hailtothe_rooster1572
    @hailtothe_rooster1572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Building what you want and dismissing the haters is what’s it’s all about… I’m after a certain stance not playing with switches. Burned out on that with hydraulics in the 90s

  • @TreyCFerg
    @TreyCFerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Clearly I’m the one winning here” 😂 I’ve enjoyed all of the videos.

  • @ItsJoshN
    @ItsJoshN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for this series

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for your positive comment.

  • @mikeemery3962
    @mikeemery3962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi- great to see some good options here...
    You could mount the compressor on rubber mounts as the vibration is echoed into the area under the MDF

  • @Sbflacko
    @Sbflacko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wanna buy a w126 just so I can bag it. Those cars just look so good and even better slammed

  • @rembertomartinez4457
    @rembertomartinez4457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your video brother... You say your front fender stick, well just go ahead and roll your fenders they shoot work great after that. Keep them coming...

  • @Carsporttt
    @Carsporttt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro. Thank you so much for the series. Ive got a 65 rambler marlin im gonna put on air Just like this. I was looking for an inexpensive way to do it. 👍👍

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah if you wanna do it cheap this way definitely works, I think the only thing I found sketch was the PTC fittings and the plastic line. I am gonna switch to hard line for sure in the future and add some gauges.

  • @232Stangpwr
    @232Stangpwr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty dope! Not gonna lie I'm impressed. Subbed!

  • @cocomaster3755
    @cocomaster3755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the 12" VW Jetta Sportwagen and love to bag it keep it up!

  • @bigsquatchsasfoot1964
    @bigsquatchsasfoot1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t believe you bagged that merc for 600 bucks bro , wow that’s amazing and for it to work at all is a bonus. Screw the time going up and down I thought it was pretty damn respectable. I’ve been lead to believe this stuff cost many thousands and way out of most of our budgets but 600 bucks is so affordable. I’ve got a jag xf so might think about doing it now ! Much respect thanks man 🙏👍

  • @mathiasdankertsen9093
    @mathiasdankertsen9093 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how does this only have 15k views? i love your content

  • @CrystalClearSQL
    @CrystalClearSQL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, you're a legend. Thank you!

  • @stevelozano9523
    @stevelozano9523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I had mine, I switched out to 1/2" lines. Pretty quick. But I was using (2) 5 gal tanks and (2) compressors all hooked to (6) switches.

  • @ask4george1
    @ask4george1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a natural mechanical ability, I do also. I have a suggestion, on the drain plug, hook up another quick connector and run the line out side to the ground. I have a manual push button air release on mine. It's in the middle of the line. Just push it and water drains to the ground.

  • @96t5wagon
    @96t5wagon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this cool project follow along

  • @kirk.818
    @kirk.818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s actually really good speed up and down. I’ve been in some cars with 1/2 - 3/4 inch lines the movement is to fast and not comfortable good money saving install

  • @DanielHernandez-gu1ku
    @DanielHernandez-gu1ku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro n do the vw with a roof rack and a kinda off roadish look I bet it would look dope

  • @AstonThaRat
    @AstonThaRat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little bit of silicone spray on the airline will help it slip past the o-ring inside the PTC fitting. Once there's air pressure going through the line I like to pull on the airline to ensure that the PTC fitting is gripping it like it should and make sure it can't blow off.

  • @user-ci4cj5eq4x
    @user-ci4cj5eq4x 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    godddd damn bags for 600 bucks, i'm needing to binge all the videos on this

  • @TheSocialPraxis
    @TheSocialPraxis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It came out great man. I didn't even know you could go that route you took. Add a second compressor for it to air up quicker. You could also heat up those fenders just a little and roll'em.
    These cars absolutely look great dropped like that.
    She just needs a good wash and detail. Maybe a replacement front light too lol. Cheers 🍻

  • @user-sn1sw3dv1r
    @user-sn1sw3dv1r 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About to bay my w126 I’m in Australia where can I find the parts list ? And yes all these years later and I found your series the most helpful

  • @OliVer-iy2jq
    @OliVer-iy2jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must have watched this series 15 times mate
    Inspired me to bag my W124. The only difference I'm doing is I found an 8 port tank, and I'm running 1 feed to each corner, seens as your main complaint is the speed of airing up.
    Thanks for the information man, it's been really handy

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get rear bags that can hold a shock through the center. Unless you want to relocate your rear shocks. Im still not 100 percent done with mine.

    • @OliVer-iy2jq
      @OliVer-iy2jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers for the heads up mate but I already bought the bags, cups and rear shocks from a guy I follow on Instagram! He offered me the whole lot for £100, that and your series are basically what kick-started my project
      I've never seen that mentioned about having to relocate the rear shocks, will look into it!

    • @OliVer-iy2jq
      @OliVer-iy2jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate actually, while you're here, the actual reason I was watching the series for the 16th time
      The paddle switches, some have PTC fittings some are barbs, seems I can't get the PTC paddles over here in the UK, so I was relived to see you've used the barbed ones too
      Am I worrying about nothing thinking its risky just having a barb holding up to 200psi? Presume you've never had a problem?

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OliVer-iy2jq the barbs are an extremely tight fit. I have zero fear that a correctly installed line would come off. You have to use heat just to get the line all the way on. Honestly i have had 2 ptc fittings blow the line out and one that had a slight leak so I'm more weary of those.

    • @OliVer-iy2jq
      @OliVer-iy2jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah perfect cheers mate, that's put my mind at rest! I'll just go ahead and order the ones with barbs
      Regarding the rear shocks I did look into it and seems to be a W123 issue, the W124 is a separate shock and spring so I should be all good.
      Thanks again for the inspiration mate, sure I'll be watching it again as I work through mine

  • @allikidej832
    @allikidej832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you go back through your parts list? Seems to be missing some Ebay stuff. Great content!

  • @Garageless
    @Garageless 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just put electric drain valve on my bagged s10 highly recommend!

  • @cameroncleeve3458
    @cameroncleeve3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve just brought a vw golf which is what the rabbit is called in Europe cannot waiting for you to bag it I’ve always wanted to do it

  • @BackyardBandits
    @BackyardBandits 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the pinch spot in the back i would run some cut rubber hose. it will stop from chaffing the lines. just a tip ive learned

  • @outkastgarage868
    @outkastgarage868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the old school haggard shirt

  • @154ride4life
    @154ride4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back again to check when the cool things are coming on the rabbit...

  • @Sroor2023
    @Sroor2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how is the ride now is it more comfy 😅 Iam planning on this bought used one with 2 compressors will be fixed at the shop later this month cause Iam not free nowadays

  • @dallas4616
    @dallas4616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro u gotta do rust repair on the MK5. It would be pretty good content

  • @nikhilmine
    @nikhilmine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Waiting for air suspension fitting on VW rabbit. 👍

  • @jpjay1584
    @jpjay1584 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should add mechanical switches that shut off if it comes to the lowest point you need.
    front front and back separate of course. would be a mechanical sensor and you don't need to worry how low you go.

  • @UsualVenus
    @UsualVenus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello thanks for posting!! i am confused on how can i make my car go up & Down faster. what are the best valves on a budget?? since i will be doing the FRONT ONLY on my 95 Chevrolet caprice Classic 9C1

  • @eddiehernandez363
    @eddiehernandez363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re bad ass bro now I want to bag my own car

  • @CruddyDriveway
    @CruddyDriveway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    u need a air line cutter essentially like a blade so it cuts right straight, i did mine with a blade tye best i could and really shoved it in the fitting

  • @kodkrazy4058
    @kodkrazy4058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the same car...how's the ride quality on air?

  • @JustinWilliams-no3ok
    @JustinWilliams-no3ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro if you want to make it quieter inside the car put some sound Detaner for the back side of the seat it will also make a cleaner sound for when you put those subs in

  • @bluehairedlawyer8242
    @bluehairedlawyer8242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible I could put the bags on top or on the bottom of lowering springs?

  • @pawpawtina
    @pawpawtina 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:50 when did you put a valve at each wheel? the valve is in the switch.

  • @philipgagne1852
    @philipgagne1852 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the actual ride quality on the bags?

  • @falexandriia6290
    @falexandriia6290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had that same leak with that drain plug lol

  • @cheflife420
    @cheflife420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💪

  • @2011llb
    @2011llb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where are u located I would like to see how much would u charge to install on a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood

  • @boostedbenz
    @boostedbenz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What dimensions of bags did you use?

  • @THIRSTYGUMS
    @THIRSTYGUMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great i want to see loads on the w126!

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you're enjoying it, thanks! Definitely more to come.

    • @THIRSTYGUMS
      @THIRSTYGUMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wideband fantastic mate, I'm a Merc man myself, working on a w124 and a w114 now. I Def want a cheap cheerful bag set up for the w114

    • @THIRSTYGUMS
      @THIRSTYGUMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wideband keep up the great work

  • @jewel5038
    @jewel5038 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those 5 cylinders are great

  • @djhewecko123
    @djhewecko123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What psi do them bags hold max?

  • @RX7GSLSEowner
    @RX7GSLSEowner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this bag-a-Mercedes-on-the-cheap series and watched all of the content with interest. I'm considering bagging my wife's Crown Victoria, which is also a heavy 4-door vehicle like yours, but all of the "kits" run around $2500 and up. Not sure that we want to invest that much in an air ride system, so your cheap approach drew my attention. I'd be interested in seeing the slightly-upgraded bagging of the VW, sure, as I would like to see which upgrades you would choose and whether or not they were worth it by comparison to what is on the W126. Anyway thanks.

  • @samari240
    @samari240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how have you done the rear shockers? are they still there?

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Video on my rear shock setup coming soon

  • @JCnordic2983
    @JCnordic2983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get some .5" pvc and use as a conduit for that rear seat area

    • @JCnordic2983
      @JCnordic2983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cut it in half and use it half round

  • @VeryMuchSaab
    @VeryMuchSaab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this holding up? (Pun intended) I'm considering bagging my 1984 w123 wagon. Currently there is no suspension, so I need bags or coilovers. Just trying to get some other opinions. Thanks!

    • @wideband
      @wideband  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still works good, main complaint is dealing with the cheap ptc line leaks and I if you can swing it go 2 compressors, a bigger tank, and some gauges.

    • @wideband
      @wideband  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After doing it this way I would say just go springs/coils its easier.

  • @johnpalmer415
    @johnpalmer415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What wheels are those???

  • @shevaughngolding490
    @shevaughngolding490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mount the compressor on rubber spacers

  • @jorgepimentel4934
    @jorgepimentel4934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥🔥😎

  • @mrsir2378
    @mrsir2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cups are too short up front. You're losing too much tank volume before the bag encounters any resistance from the car. If you're bags were completely flat at whatever height you want it to be at it's lowest then as soon as you start raising the vehicle every cubic inch of air is going towards lifting the vehicle and you're losing less pressure in your tank from equalization. Hope this helps. Just redo your bottom cups. Easy peasy.

    • @mrsir2378
      @mrsir2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will also be at a lower psi at ride height offering you a smoother ride.

  • @bigkeg9173
    @bigkeg9173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the Rabbit a V5 or a diesel?

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2.5 5 cylinder. Would love a tdi but it was free so I'm just lucky its stick.

    • @bigkeg9173
      @bigkeg9173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wideband the 2.5 was used in turbo Audis, great motor. It replaced the 2litre which I have in my Bora/Jetta
      I want a VR5 or VR6 motor cause they will take a turbo and sound sick....... VW fan here lol

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bigkeg9173 I'm leaning towards spraying this one with some nitrous.

  • @WIZMO420
    @WIZMO420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Use copper hard lines you'll never pop a line again...🤫

  • @prettysus6039
    @prettysus6039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 9 dislikes are riding static.

  • @claudespeed4422
    @claudespeed4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta stretch the fenders

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely a future video, I have access to a fender roller as well.

  • @rngburnzie7557
    @rngburnzie7557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Role the fenders it bends them out so they don’t get caught ass much

  • @thefrostyvette876
    @thefrostyvette876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The speed is fine for me. It’s a Mercedes, I wouldn’t want it to spring up fast like a low boy Cadillac

  • @rajasaif8518
    @rajasaif8518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are these cheep bags reliable while driving for long??

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have no idea but I'm going to find out haha.

    • @jazmynravae
      @jazmynravae 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wideband so did you find out lol ?

  • @rock40ps3
    @rock40ps3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you dont use "goo" to seal fittings good lord

    • @wideband
      @wideband  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally liquid thread sealer made for high pressure gasses. I do use goo lol.

  • @edwont7709
    @edwont7709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you planning on doing some body work thing looks nasty

  • @22Webstar
    @22Webstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just get a fender roller off of ebay!

  • @rags2riches938
    @rags2riches938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WARNING: Do not travel to Germany my friend, you will be immediately arrested for blasphemy!