I learned that you need a good insulated sleeping pad the hard way. I was out with my younger brother and I as the older one wanted him to be comfortable and therefor gave him the good sleeping pad. He was warm all night. Me on the other hand, I took a broken and punctured cheap air mattress. It had no air and no insulation. I used that on snow in -7. My winter sleeping bag didn't help at all, I kid you not when I say that I almost got hypothermia. I spent all night trying to put clothes and such under me so that I could get up from the cold ground. Great video btw!
Justin Outdoors great question! Two reasons that I know of: fat is the last thing to metabolize, and it’s higher in calories. So if you’ve got food in your belly from earlier that day eating high fat will endure your body processes that first. Plus, like I said it’s higher in calories. So you’re getting a higher caloric bang for buck with fat over carbs or proteins. But, as with all things, everything in moderation. High sugar will give your metabolism a quick punch of heat (since it’s the first and easiest to metabolize) but will leave you colder the rest of the night! Thanks for the question! You’re doing awesome by the way, and thanks for the awesome R-value vid! Keep Moving Forward!
Carbs burn fast. That’s why you feel hungry again a couple hours after eating them. Fats will last you all night and your body will still be digesting them in the morning.
You're the only other person I've seen use a mylar blanket under everything. I do it too. If I know it's gonna be below 40f or so I always use one (inside the tent, under everything else) and it really does make a HUGE difference. I use an r5 sleeping pad and I feel like it doubles that!
It really is such a great little tip! I think it's so essential up here in Canada, because in the Rockies where I go it can get close to freezing even in summer! Glad I'm not alone in this little hack! Keep Moving Forward! ~Jesse
How do I know witch R value to chose for my pad? I have followed an R value table from internet where it says R value 4.2 is good enough for -11 celcius or 12 farenheit but I became hypothermic in +2 C (36F). I also had a sleeping bag with the same comfort rating as the pad. Am I just a really cold sleeper or is it cuz Im a woman or just bad luck with the gear I have chosen.
Xmid for the win!!! I have the 1p and 2p. Even with the weight difference, I prefer the 2p. But the 1p is nice if I know space is limited. Thanks for your suggestions!
I've been tempted to get the 2p for a while now. But I don't feel I really need the extra space! But once my girlfriend starts coming with me, you'll bet I'll be getting that 2p! Great tent! (Just released a review on it too a couple weeks back)
I don’t know if anyone would like to know. A good tip for sleeping on snow is you can cut pine or spruce tree branches and put lots on the snow then put your insulated mattress.
I am an extremely cold sleeper. How do you use the mylar blanket? I am bringing a foam exercise mat and a sleeping pad rated R6. Do I put the mylar blanket in between the exercise mat and sleeping pad? Love this video. Thanks.
Great video. Is there any way to combine different bags and liners and figure out the new comfort or survival rating for it? For example, my summer bag is a very small down bag that has a comfort rating of 10 C and I also take the same liner you are showing here. I can choose to use just the bag or just the liner or both at once so there is lots of flexibility. I also own a 0C bag which is much bulker for spring and fall. If I was to create a russian doll effect by putting the liner in my down bag and that whole setup in my 0 C bag, is there a way to get the combined ratings of all 3 for comfort and survival?
Great advice! What you're describing is very similar to what I recommend in this video! th-cam.com/video/m8PUdEJY4H4/w-d-xo.html But unfortunately I don't think there's a way to get an accurate idea of what the new temperature rating is outside of just testing it yourself! There is a general rule of loft -to-warmth ratio but it varies from down to synthetic and even types of synthetic. So unless you're using all down or all the same synthetic you're really just guessing. So either way the best thing to do is to test it to what's comfortable to you! Great question! Keep Moving Forward!
I once bought a artic shield sleeping bag -10 from walmart for $69 I went to goodwill bought 3 fleece blankets and survived -15 at night I had no idea it was that cold until someone at the college mentioned how cold it was last night I could easily went down to -20 with that setup certainly not backpack friendly but if you get a 0 degree bag paired with like extreme thermal reactor plus a couple other fleece small blankets I'm sure you could go below 0
It really is a challenge to stay warm! But these basic rules and tips really help! The Nalgene trio is seriously a game changer! What other tricks do you use? Keep Moving Forward!
@@BackcountryForward I use a double sleeping bag so that I can steal all my husband's warmth! Along with a down blanket INSIDE the sleeping bag! And with the water bottles I keep nice and toasty!
Thankyou for this. I'm disabled and can't afford my own home that suits my health needs and fleeing abuse by sofa surfing. It's reassuring I can use this if I run out of options.i can afford to buy my own equipment fortunately
That klymit pad is actually ASTM rated to r value 1.9. You can actually use a well insulated pad in warmer temperatures. An insulated pad doesn't make you hotter. An insulated pad simply stops a cold ground from sucking all the warmth out of you.
I can’t figure out what’s better. Tonight it’s 32 degrees and I wasn’t expecting the near ten degree dip. Temps change a lot right now. I’m on concrete with shower curtain and blanket folded underneath me. Then I have fleece blanket and down blanket that’s as thick as a sheet. It’s super thin but down. I don’t know which blanket should be on me or on top.
Great question, I hope to help. The answer is to have the down closest to you with the fleece on top. The down being closer means it stays warmer and your humidity travels THROUGH it and instead turns to moisture on or around the fleece blanket (which will still stay warm even when wet). But if the down is on top, then as the humidity passes through it's layer it will accumulate in the down as it gets cold and the down will collapse not being as warm. You'll basically only have the fleece blanket for keeping you warm. The only exception to this is if the outer blanket is really heavy and is actually crushing the down. Then the down can't be as lofted and warm as it should. But even then, I'd still probably out the down close to me to "fill in the gaps" where the heavy blanket can't fully press against me. (and this is only for REALLY heavy blankets. An average quilt would still be good on top of down. Hope that keeps you warm in these chilly nights! Best of luck, and God bless. He loves you! Keep moving forward! Jesse
Snow camping is the best...almost no people, trash and litter are unseen under the snow, the bears are in bed, snow-caves are great shelters...so it’s all a matter of gear. Your recommendations are spot-on.
Great question! Wildlife is always a concern… but once you’ve been out their enough you get more and more comfortable with that reality, and you realize how rare animal encounters really are. Long story short, be prepared, be wise, practice good caution, but no need to be afraid! Thanks for watching, and thanks even more for commenting!
The Nalgene is a game changer! And I’m really looking into getting a quilt this year myself! How have you been finding it. I won’t lie, as a cold sleeper, I’m a bit hesitant. Keep moving forward ➡️🌲🏕🏔
@@BackcountryForward Regarding the quilt, I'm also a cold sleeper. That's why I watched and subscribed to your video, and why I bought the 0 F degree quilt. I also went for the long and wide options since I wanted it long enough to entirely duck under it (I'm 6' and 175lbs), and the extra width means I can snap the open side together without using the pad straps which sorta makes it into a leaky sleeping bag. I haven't used it like that yet, but the option is there. Since it is extra long and wide, it gained a little weight, too, and is 30oz. You can experiment with temp ratings, length and width options on the EE site to see what the weight will be. If it still isn't warm enough, I have a down blanket I can add to the mix that adds another pound or so of weight. Don't remember where I got it, but I think it was Massdrop or Kickstarter, and is rated at about 40 F by itself. Note that I've only had the quilt a short while and have only had it out on a three day hike at and near Crater Lake in Oregon. That was last October, and I don't remember the weather being all that cold, but it was due to snow the evening of the day I finished the hike. The quilt, Static V and Durston tent worked well on their maiden voyage! I do have a smallish Nalgene bottle I'd forgotten about.
Soaring Bob that’s some awesome info! I’ve never thought of doing the extra wide for the “leaky sleeping bag” affect. I have a buddy who just got an EE quilt for the layering system. Seems like a pretty good idea (not cheap though)! Thanks for all this info! Keep me posted on how it is the more you test it!
@@BackcountryForward In looking at the EE site, I see you can also order Xtra long and Xtra wide (mine is just long and wide), some sort of collar, and 950 fill if you hit the lottery! Mine is 850 down fill. Wait for a sale and you can save $50 bucks or so. enlightenedequipment.com/enigma-custom/ The also have something in between a sleeping bag and quilt they call a Convert. enlightenedequipment.com/convert-sleeping-bags/ And here is the down blanket: drop.com/buy/massdrop-pine-down-blanket#overview
Great video!! Another bonus to the nalgene in your sleep system with you, is guaranteed water in the morning. Nothing sucks more then waking up to a frozen liter of water.
Definitely! Although I've heard rumours that burying in snow helps with keeping it thawed too... but I've never tested... plus I'd rather sleep with it warm in my bag! Not all of us have a Wanda to cuddle with! lol
Perfect topic and thank you, last year was my first year where i couldn't wait to get out camping so much coldness was occurring. Great tips and tricks I love it!
Backcountry Forward me to, just rode in the mountains yesterday for first time this year it was gorgeous! I got to hike last weekend with the fam but single track with all day river crossings was INSANE!!!!!! Finally recharge the soul with the smells and views of peaks and valleys, trees and dirt.... or maybe it’s just the depriving the brain of oxygen at higher altitude haha but it does the body mind and soul good to get back to the mountains!!!! Cheers!
Don’t be afraid of the cold! You can overcome it! The biggest key is to start small: spend a night in the backyard, then in some woods not far from home, then a trail you’re comfortable and familiar with... THEN the real trips begin! Winter hiking is similar! Go to the “popular” trails (they’re usually less busy in winter time anyways), then to some of your favorite trails, and then begin pushing your limits! It’s a whole new world out there in winter *breaks into a song and dance number* 🕺🎶 😆🤣 Either way Jill, Keep Moving Forward!
@@BackcountryForward hahaha, it's not cold enough, OR snowy in my backyard 😂😂😂! When I backpack, I think the coldest I've slept in is only high 30's. There's still a some snow not too far from me, I think you have awoken something within me!!😂 I'll report back!
Also, how does this not have more Likes? The production is so slick and professional, I'm really surprised you're not bigger. Well, you can count one more Like and one more Subscriber, at least. :-)
Yo! Great info. Great presentation! And entertaining! This has been very useful to me as I've been wanting to prepare better for some cold weather thru-hikes. Thank you for sharing this invaluable knowledge.
Funny video. This is jist providing information that has been know for years. the best pad to have is a closed foam pad. Unless you buy a down filled air mattress which is useless.
I'm a cold sleeper and have just transitioned to a hammock so I am in a new learning curve. Biggest problem now, other than getting up 2-3 times per night, is my feet. Take Care
@@BackcountryForward very comfortable I can even sleep on my back some. There are a number of great vloggers I followed prior to my purchase (Outdoor Adventures, Jason, Shugemery, Adventures with the Marine, I could go on. I purchased my custom hammock and tarp from Hemlock Mountain Outdoors.
@@BackcountryForward Klymit Insulated Static V Luxe Since I'm a bigger guy. Its hard to find a good sleeping pad. It was a little more than I wanted to spend. And its a little on the heavy side. It was totally worth the price. I had only used it for 1 season. In Iowa last fall it got down to 15°f and i was toasty. The weight sleeping system is key.
I had tried the non-insulated luxe for a bit, but ended up getting rid of it because personally I'm fine with a smaller (and lighter pad). Plus I knew I'd want an insulated pad eventually, and like you said, that insulated luxe is a hefty one. But looks so comfy! Keep Moving Forward!
Keep a pee bottle in your tent. When I need to pee I get cold because my body is using extra energy keeping my pee warm in me. Once I go to the bathroom I warm right up. Keeping a bottle in the tent keeps you from having to leave the tent to get cold.
I have yet to try this... but I told a friend this winter would be the first time... I guess we'll see if I actually keep my word! Glad to hear it works for you! Keep Moving Forward!
wow my first backpacking trip was the similar, I am a cold sleeper and had a sleeping mat with like no R rating. Luckily I had a super warm sleeping bag but ti was a very uncomfortable night still
An insulated sleeping pad is so key! I’m glad you at least had a warm bag! Hopefully you can upgrade your pad and still get out their having some more good times!
Great question! The answer is yes unless you're in very warm climates (in which case the cot can help keep you cooler). But you may not need a big inflatable sleeping pad as much. But it really depends on how cold you are expecting it it get. A cot helps keep you off the ground, but exposes you to air, which will also suck warmth from you! Hope that helps! Keep Moving Forward!
I have done much wonderful chilly-season camping in the past. However, something I'm nervous about heading out next Winter* with is the fact that, due to a recent medicine regime tweak, I'm now dealing with nightsweats which are utterly random to my actual temperature. And we're talking, "curled-fetal -level-chilled _before_ the sheets get soaked" degree of "has no thermal causation" and degree of "when she says sweats, she ain't fooling around", in a normal domestic bed with real-time insulation customisation opportunity. I know all the tricks, but...I wasn't counting on this recent development. I've got a sinking feeling it's not really something there's any real way for me to outplan or mitigate. This might be my Winter-camping Waterloo. *It's currently Summerland in my part of the world.
First of all, let me just say that I'm really sorry to hear that! Those sorts of unexpected physical changes can be quite emotionally taxing. I hope things start to sort themselves out and maybe your body can begin to find a regulation once it gets used to the new regime? Here's hoping. Secondly, I totally understand where you're coming from! That would be unnerving for sure! My best advice is to just get out in the summer and shoulder season as much as you can to begin the process of getting confident with these bouts of night sweats happening in more mitigated surroundings. Then in winter, start small and close... in your backyard. The best advice is to really build confidence, awareness, and comfortability with the occurrence rather than comfortability IN the occurrence. If you make it through a few successful bouts on the trail in the summer, the shoulder season will be less daunting. Make it through the fall, and winter may be manageable. Suffer but survive a few nights in your backyard and you'll be equipped with the knowledge of what to expect should you feel comfortable enough to push the boundaries a littler further (emphasis on the little at first). I'm sure this is all something you've thought of. But all that to say, I hope that you find a way to push through this battle and keep getting out there! Keep Moving Forward (even if that means extended day hiking for a season or two!)
It’s definitely a drawn out intro. But I also try my best to connect with the audience. Finding the right balance is tough though. Thanks for the input though!
Dude that was totally awesome !! 👍🏼👍🏽 2thumbs up fer u !!!! Yes,yes, yes on the mylar blanket on the tent floor !! helps reflect radiant heat in the entire tent upward instead of downward into the ground. I want to try it in between tent and ground sheet to c if it doesn't slide around as much and less noisy and still radiate heat throughout the entire tent. However winter testing is long and few between here in the Southwest desert of AZ. Maybe you could try that out for me Jesse and let us know ??? It's like a groundsheet on a groundsheet. I also want to experiment with that double foil faced bubble wrap. Kind of like what you find on the windshield of cars, only it's thicker its made for building purposes. The laws of thermodynamics states that radiant energy ,which is heat, will always flow to cold every time. So my idea is to stop the whole entire tent footprint... Living space.... From radiating my heat into the ground.Especially when camping on Frozen Earth or snow pack. if you're going to Winter pack you're just going to have to carry a heavier load then you wouldn't summer... It's a no-brainer 🤯😂😂😁 until next time, keep on rocking the free world ☺️
Unfortunately I don't use a groundsheet tent very often anymore. I do have one tent that has one though. I'll try to remember to try it next time I use it (which might not be for a year). I'd really like to try using the reflectix (the bubble wrap you were referring to), AND I want to try seeing if putting the mylar on top and on the bottom of my inflated sleeping pad would make a difference... it might be a bit noisy though. But could be cool to try. That way its a big air pocket (my pad) trapped between two foil sheets reflecting more heat up? Maybe? Thanks for your support! Keep Moving Forward
I work with homeless and street people... I'm surprised how often this works for them. However, each of them have stories of friends and loved ones who it didn't sadly...
My first winter camp i was in a 20F sleeping bag (survival rating, NOT comfort as I would later find out...) and it got down to 15F. I had to use my emergency blanket, which I promptly used incorrectly (who knew!) and it gathered all my condensation so I was now not only cold, but wet and shivering... I had to bail on the trip middle of the night to try to avoid hypothermia!
Kai, Hmmm...it's true. You need a basic and common knowledge to communicate. Ok, wearing wool clothing, very cold rated sleeping bag, high R-rated sleeping pad, reflective mylar, wool socks, winter rated tent, balaclava, wool glove liners, after eating a large pasta meal, and Still cold while trying to sleep. I E: " cold sleeper "
There's some seriously controversial stuff in this video! 0 Degree bag all summer? Snacks in the tent? And....Nalgene Bottle!!!! Ok, those are legit for cold weather camping. My wife gives it the seal of approval.
Haha what can I say, I’m all about the shock factor! That 0 bag was so nice! I could sleep without base layers all summer! It’s also some of the only times I ever remember having to temperature regulate by sticking a limb or two out. But at 4.3lbs... I upgraded to a down 20F bag that fall. I’m glad you approve of the Nalgene bottle! And getting the wife’s approval, wow, that’s a new standard of success! Haha Thanks Carl, lovin’ the podcast. Keep Moving Forward!
An R-value sleeping pad of 4 makes anyone a cold sleeper. I would not even use a sleeping pad that cold in the tropics. R-value 5 is officially the minimum to achieve your sleeping bag's EN/ISO rating, no matter the reason. I would never go below R-value 7 in the winter.
Oh get to the point! Takes 2 minutes just to mention the first thing, and then does a lot of fill in talking just to get to the second point. It's as if he wants to make the video longer than it really needs to be to give the three points. Either that, or he just loves to talk and over explain everything he talks about.
Lol I've gotten this comment a couple times now... I find it really funny because I feel like I sound like like most western americans and most of the actors I see on TV. Who knew I had an accent! haha
Gert Vanpeet the gaiters I’m wearing in this video are actually insulated! They’re the only ones I’ve ever been able to find that have a fleece liner! They’re amazing! I’m currently sleeping in polyester leggings, but I just got a merino wool shirt and hoodie which has been amazing so far! Keep Moving Forward!
eating before going to bed isnt a very good idea... all the blood gonna rush to your stomach... a person with maybe low blood count will get very cold at his limbs, very fast. if you must take a calorie jelly with you, something that's easy to digest.
I'm sorry you feel this way. You certainly don't have to watch this video. You certainly don't have to finish it if it's so irritating to you. As you rightly mentioned, you're not 7 years old, but you sure are impolite. As you can see in the comments, there are many people who have been helped by this video, and that's all I'm trying to do, just help. I'm glad so many other people have appreciated that help! Next time, please remember you're talking to another human being, not an TH-cam algorithm and artificially generated content. Cheers mate!
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I learned that you need a good insulated sleeping pad the hard way. I was out with my younger brother and I as the older one wanted him to be comfortable and therefor gave him the good sleeping pad. He was warm all night. Me on the other hand, I took a broken and punctured cheap air mattress. It had no air and no insulation. I used that on snow in -7. My winter sleeping bag didn't help at all, I kid you not when I say that I almost got hypothermia. I spent all night trying to put clothes and such under me so that I could get up from the cold ground.
Great video btw!
Great video Jesse! Great tips! What's the reasoning for high fat for the pre-bed meal?
Justin Outdoors great question! Two reasons that I know of: fat is the last thing to metabolize, and it’s higher in calories. So if you’ve got food in your belly from earlier that day eating high fat will endure your body processes that first. Plus, like I said it’s higher in calories. So you’re getting a higher caloric bang for buck with fat over carbs or proteins. But, as with all things, everything in moderation. High sugar will give your metabolism a quick punch of heat (since it’s the first and easiest to metabolize) but will leave you colder the rest of the night!
Thanks for the question!
You’re doing awesome by the way, and thanks for the awesome R-value vid!
Keep Moving Forward!
Carbs burn fast. That’s why you feel hungry again a couple hours after eating them. Fats will last you all night and your body will still be digesting them in the morning.
What do you recommend for a RV or say for instance a cargo van as far as heat
Super helpful tips. The Nalgene bottle....Yeah. We will try that one.
Definitely give it a try and let me know!
You're the only other person I've seen use a mylar blanket under everything. I do it too. If I know it's gonna be below 40f or so I always use one (inside the tent, under everything else) and it really does make a HUGE difference. I use an r5 sleeping pad and I feel like it doubles that!
It really is such a great little tip! I think it's so essential up here in Canada, because in the Rockies where I go it can get close to freezing even in summer!
Glad I'm not alone in this little hack!
Keep Moving Forward!
~Jesse
How do I know witch R value to chose for my pad? I have followed an R value table from internet where it says R value 4.2 is good enough for -11 celcius or 12 farenheit but I became hypothermic in +2 C (36F). I also had a sleeping bag with the same comfort rating as the pad. Am I just a really cold sleeper or is it cuz Im a woman or just bad luck with the gear I have chosen.
Xmid for the win!!! I have the 1p and 2p. Even with the weight difference, I prefer the 2p. But the 1p is nice if I know space is limited. Thanks for your suggestions!
I've been tempted to get the 2p for a while now. But I don't feel I really need the extra space! But once my girlfriend starts coming with me, you'll bet I'll be getting that 2p!
Great tent! (Just released a review on it too a couple weeks back)
I don’t know if anyone would like to know. A good tip for sleeping on snow is you can cut pine or spruce tree branches and put lots on the snow then put your insulated mattress.
Absolutely, we'd love to know! Thank you, and I will definitely take your advice.
@@theKoreis It's what my aboriginal ancestors used to do for their teepees.
I am an extremely cold sleeper. How do you use the mylar blanket? I am bringing a foam exercise mat and a sleeping pad rated R6. Do I put the mylar blanket in between the exercise mat and sleeping pad? Love this video. Thanks.
Holly,
I'd say yes.
You got this girl !
Great video. Is there any way to combine different bags and liners and figure out the new comfort or survival rating for it? For example, my summer bag is a very small down bag that has a comfort rating of 10 C and I also take the same liner you are showing here. I can choose to use just the bag or just the liner or both at once so there is lots of flexibility. I also own a 0C bag which is much bulker for spring and fall. If I was to create a russian doll effect by putting the liner in my down bag and that whole setup in my 0 C bag, is there a way to get the combined ratings of all 3 for comfort and survival?
Great advice! What you're describing is very similar to what I recommend in this video! th-cam.com/video/m8PUdEJY4H4/w-d-xo.html
But unfortunately I don't think there's a way to get an accurate idea of what the new temperature rating is outside of just testing it yourself!
There is a general rule of loft -to-warmth ratio but it varies from down to synthetic and even types of synthetic. So unless you're using all down or all the same synthetic you're really just guessing. So either way the best thing to do is to test it to what's comfortable to you!
Great question!
Keep Moving Forward!
I once bought a artic shield sleeping bag -10 from walmart for $69 I went to goodwill bought 3 fleece blankets and survived -15 at night I had no idea it was that cold until someone at the college mentioned how cold it was last night I could easily went down to -20 with that setup certainly not backpack friendly but if you get a 0 degree bag paired with like extreme thermal reactor plus a couple other fleece small blankets I'm sure you could go below 0
Great tips! I stay so cold! The hot water bottles are the BEST!
It really is a challenge to stay warm! But these basic rules and tips really help!
The Nalgene trio is seriously a game changer! What other tricks do you use?
Keep Moving Forward!
@@BackcountryForward I use a double sleeping bag so that I can steal all my husband's warmth! Along with a down blanket INSIDE the sleeping bag! And with the water bottles I keep nice and toasty!
tiavision haha that’s a brilliant idea! Double sleeping bag with a blanket inside! Gold!
Thankyou for this. I'm disabled and can't afford my own home that suits my health needs and fleeing abuse by sofa surfing.
It's reassuring I can use this if I run out of options.i can afford to buy my own equipment fortunately
That klymit pad is actually ASTM rated to r value 1.9.
You can actually use a well insulated pad in warmer temperatures. An insulated pad doesn't make you hotter. An insulated pad simply stops a cold ground from sucking all the warmth out of you.
I can’t figure out what’s better. Tonight it’s 32 degrees and I wasn’t expecting the near ten degree dip. Temps change a lot right now. I’m on concrete with shower curtain and blanket folded underneath me. Then I have fleece blanket and down blanket that’s as thick as a sheet. It’s super thin but down. I don’t know which blanket should be on me or on top.
Great question, I hope to help. The answer is to have the down closest to you with the fleece on top. The down being closer means it stays warmer and your humidity travels THROUGH it and instead turns to moisture on or around the fleece blanket (which will still stay warm even when wet). But if the down is on top, then as the humidity passes through it's layer it will accumulate in the down as it gets cold and the down will collapse not being as warm. You'll basically only have the fleece blanket for keeping you warm.
The only exception to this is if the outer blanket is really heavy and is actually crushing the down. Then the down can't be as lofted and warm as it should. But even then, I'd still probably out the down close to me to "fill in the gaps" where the heavy blanket can't fully press against me. (and this is only for REALLY heavy blankets. An average quilt would still be good on top of down.
Hope that keeps you warm in these chilly nights!
Best of luck, and God bless. He loves you!
Keep moving forward!
Jesse
Snow camping is the best...almost no people, trash and litter are unseen under the snow, the bears are in bed, snow-caves are great shelters...so it’s all a matter of gear. Your recommendations are spot-on.
Thanks so much John! I really appreciate your comment!
Winter camping has grown to become one of my favorite time of year!
Great video ! Do you not get scared of bear or mountain lions when your out there alone ?
Great question! Wildlife is always a concern… but once you’ve been out their enough you get more and more comfortable with that reality, and you realize how rare animal encounters really are.
Long story short, be prepared, be wise, practice good caution, but no need to be afraid!
Thanks for watching, and thanks even more for commenting!
Durston 1P - check, Orange Static V - check, 0 degree EE quilt - check, liner - not yet, Nalgene - need to do some shopping! Great tips.
The Nalgene is a game changer! And I’m really looking into getting a quilt this year myself! How have you been finding it. I won’t lie, as a cold sleeper, I’m a bit hesitant.
Keep moving forward ➡️🌲🏕🏔
@@BackcountryForward Regarding the quilt, I'm also a cold sleeper. That's why I watched and subscribed to your video, and why I bought the 0 F degree quilt. I also went for the long and wide options since I wanted it long enough to entirely duck under it (I'm 6' and 175lbs), and the extra width means I can snap the open side together without using the pad straps which sorta makes it into a leaky sleeping bag. I haven't used it like that yet, but the option is there.
Since it is extra long and wide, it gained a little weight, too, and is 30oz. You can experiment with temp ratings, length and width options on the EE site to see what the weight will be.
If it still isn't warm enough, I have a down blanket I can add to the mix that adds another pound or so of weight. Don't remember where I got it, but I think it was Massdrop or Kickstarter, and is rated at about 40 F by itself.
Note that I've only had the quilt a short while and have only had it out on a three day hike at and near Crater Lake in Oregon. That was last October, and I don't remember the weather being all that cold, but it was due to snow the evening of the day I finished the hike.
The quilt, Static V and Durston tent worked well on their maiden voyage! I do have a smallish Nalgene bottle I'd forgotten about.
Soaring Bob that’s some awesome info! I’ve never thought of doing the extra wide for the “leaky sleeping bag” affect. I have a buddy who just got an EE quilt for the layering system. Seems like a pretty good idea (not cheap though)!
Thanks for all this info!
Keep me posted on how it is the more you test it!
@@BackcountryForward In looking at the EE site, I see you can also order Xtra long and Xtra wide (mine is just long and wide), some sort of collar, and 950 fill if you hit the lottery! Mine is 850 down fill. Wait for a sale and you can save $50 bucks or so.
enlightenedequipment.com/enigma-custom/
The also have something in between a sleeping bag and quilt they call a Convert.
enlightenedequipment.com/convert-sleeping-bags/
And here is the down blanket: drop.com/buy/massdrop-pine-down-blanket#overview
Sorry for the delayed response! Thanks for this I'll check it out!
Great video!! Another bonus to the nalgene in your sleep system with you, is guaranteed water in the morning. Nothing sucks more then waking up to a frozen liter of water.
Definitely! Although I've heard rumours that burying in snow helps with keeping it thawed too... but I've never tested... plus I'd rather sleep with it warm in my bag! Not all of us have a Wanda to cuddle with! lol
Perfect topic and thank you, last year was my first year where i couldn't wait to get out camping so much coldness was occurring.
Great tips and tricks I love it!
I’m looking forward to summer weather! The mountains where I’m at are JUST peeking into spring! Haha
Backcountry Forward me to, just rode in the mountains yesterday for first time this year it was gorgeous!
I got to hike last weekend with the fam but single track with all day river crossings was INSANE!!!!!!
Finally recharge the soul with the smells and views of peaks and valleys, trees and dirt.... or maybe it’s just the depriving the brain of oxygen at higher altitude haha but it does the body mind and soul good to get back to the mountains!!!!
Cheers!
2 Wheels And A Tent haha yes! I’m right there with you!
I’m going to go deprive my brain of some oxygen today! 😆
(All packed and ready to GO!)
Backcountry Forward have a blast man !!
Wow I really learned a lot thank you for these wonderful tips really
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for letting me know! Comments like these are always encouraging!
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Yes mate!
Love the video! Great tricks and tips✌️
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks so much! What was your favourite?
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Ok, here we go, this is the one I need to watch!!
Don’t be afraid of the cold! You can overcome it! The biggest key is to start small: spend a night in the backyard, then in some woods not far from home, then a trail you’re comfortable and familiar with... THEN the real trips begin!
Winter hiking is similar! Go to the “popular” trails (they’re usually less busy in winter time anyways), then to some of your favorite trails, and then begin pushing your limits! It’s a whole new world out there in winter *breaks into a song and dance number* 🕺🎶
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Either way Jill,
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@@BackcountryForward hahaha, it's not cold enough, OR snowy in my backyard 😂😂😂! When I backpack, I think the coldest I've slept in is only high 30's. There's still a some snow not too far from me, I think you have awoken something within me!!😂 I'll report back!
Jill Matthews new exciting challenges! New exciting adventures!
@@BackcountryForward yeaahh, super exciting!!
Also, how does this not have more Likes? The production is so slick and professional, I'm really surprised you're not bigger. Well, you can count one more Like and one more Subscriber, at least. :-)
Haha, thank you so much! I appreciate that!
I'm just making my way through, learning a few things here and there as I go along!
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Good video
Thanks so much! Appreciate the feedback!
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Yo! Great info. Great presentation! And entertaining! This has been very useful to me as I've been wanting to prepare better for some cold weather thru-hikes. Thank you for sharing this invaluable knowledge.
Thanks Mitch! Glad I could help!
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Funny video. This is jist providing information that has been know for years. the best pad to have is a closed foam pad. Unless you buy a down filled air mattress which is useless.
Very useful video, and you present really well. I especially like the tip about using a myler sheet as a bottom layer. Thank you dude.
I'm glad you found it helpful! And thanks for the compliment!
I have started using the mylar sheet even in summer!
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I'm a cold sleeper and have just transitioned to a hammock so I am in a new learning curve. Biggest problem now, other than getting up 2-3 times per night, is my feet. Take Care
I'd really like to try to switch to a hammock one day. How has the comfort been?
Maybe a hot water bottle by your feet?
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@@BackcountryForward very comfortable I can even sleep on my back some. There are a number of great vloggers I followed prior to my purchase (Outdoor Adventures, Jason, Shugemery, Adventures with the Marine, I could go on. I purchased my custom hammock and tarp from Hemlock Mountain Outdoors.
What shelter is that?
It’s the X-mid by Dan Durston and Drop.com. GREAT tent. (Review coming in the next couple months!)
Good info
Glad you found it helpful!
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Good info .
Glad you found it helpful! What tip/trick was your favorite?
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Klymit Insulated Static V Luxe
Since I'm a bigger guy. Its hard to find a good sleeping pad. It was a little more than I wanted to spend. And its a little on the heavy side.
It was totally worth the price.
I had only used it for 1 season.
In Iowa last fall it got down to 15°f and i was toasty. The weight sleeping system is key.
I had tried the non-insulated luxe for a bit, but ended up getting rid of it because personally I'm fine with a smaller (and lighter pad). Plus I knew I'd want an insulated pad eventually, and like you said, that insulated luxe is a hefty one. But looks so comfy!
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Keep a pee bottle in your tent. When I need to pee I get cold because my body is using extra energy keeping my pee warm in me. Once I go to the bathroom I warm right up. Keeping a bottle in the tent keeps you from having to leave the tent to get cold.
I have yet to try this... but I told a friend this winter would be the first time... I guess we'll see if I actually keep my word! Glad to hear it works for you!
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And you can snuggle up to the warm pee in the bottle after you go pee.
@@normallife1335 Beats getting out of a tent and freezing you willy off.
@@normallife1335 lol
I like to stay as cold as I can so that way when I wake up I won't be any more cold.
Hiker Joe sounds like a death wish up here in Canada 😂
@@BackcountryForward They don't call me the corona hiker for nothing man
@@HikerJoe More like "Hiker Dead"
I bring a ton of junk in my bag haha. Anything with a rechargeable battery too, keeps them from freezing.
Backcountry Pilgrim that’s the way to do it!
wow my first backpacking trip was the similar, I am a cold sleeper and had a sleeping mat with like no R rating. Luckily I had a super warm sleeping bag but ti was a very uncomfortable night still
An insulated sleeping pad is so key! I’m glad you at least had a warm bag! Hopefully you can upgrade your pad and still get out their having some more good times!
Do you need sleeping pad when using a kot
Great question! The answer is yes unless you're in very warm climates (in which case the cot can help keep you cooler). But you may not need a big inflatable sleeping pad as much. But it really depends on how cold you are expecting it it get. A cot helps keep you off the ground, but exposes you to air, which will also suck warmth from you!
Hope that helps!
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I have done much wonderful chilly-season camping in the past. However, something I'm nervous about heading out next Winter* with is the fact that, due to a recent medicine regime tweak, I'm now dealing with nightsweats which are utterly random to my actual temperature. And we're talking, "curled-fetal -level-chilled _before_ the sheets get soaked" degree of "has no thermal causation" and degree of "when she says sweats, she ain't fooling around", in a normal domestic bed with real-time insulation customisation opportunity.
I know all the tricks, but...I wasn't counting on this recent development. I've got a sinking feeling it's not really something there's any real way for me to outplan or mitigate.
This might be my Winter-camping Waterloo.
*It's currently Summerland in my part of the world.
First of all, let me just say that I'm really sorry to hear that! Those sorts of unexpected physical changes can be quite emotionally taxing. I hope things start to sort themselves out and maybe your body can begin to find a regulation once it gets used to the new regime? Here's hoping.
Secondly, I totally understand where you're coming from! That would be unnerving for sure!
My best advice is to just get out in the summer and shoulder season as much as you can to begin the process of getting confident with these bouts of night sweats happening in more mitigated surroundings. Then in winter, start small and close... in your backyard. The best advice is to really build confidence, awareness, and comfortability with the occurrence rather than comfortability IN the occurrence.
If you make it through a few successful bouts on the trail in the summer, the shoulder season will be less daunting. Make it through the fall, and winter may be manageable. Suffer but survive a few nights in your backyard and you'll be equipped with the knowledge of what to expect should you feel comfortable enough to push the boundaries a littler further (emphasis on the little at first).
I'm sure this is all something you've thought of. But all that to say, I hope that you find a way to push through this battle and keep getting out there!
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You basically had two intros. The tips start at 1:40. Thanks for the video.
It’s definitely a drawn out intro. But I also try my best to connect with the audience. Finding the right balance is tough though.
Thanks for the input though!
Dude that was totally awesome !! 👍🏼👍🏽 2thumbs up fer u !!!!
Yes,yes, yes on the mylar blanket on the tent floor !! helps reflect radiant heat in the entire tent upward instead of downward into the ground. I want to try it in between tent and ground sheet to c if it doesn't slide around as much and less noisy and still radiate heat throughout the entire tent. However winter testing is long and few between here in the Southwest desert of AZ. Maybe you could try that out for me Jesse and let us know ??? It's like a groundsheet on a groundsheet. I also want to experiment with that double foil faced bubble wrap.
Kind of like what you find on the windshield of cars, only it's thicker its made for building purposes.
The laws of thermodynamics states that radiant energy ,which is heat, will always flow to cold every time.
So my idea is to stop the whole entire tent footprint... Living space.... From radiating my heat into the ground.Especially when camping on Frozen Earth or snow pack. if you're going to Winter pack you're just going to have to carry a heavier load then you wouldn't summer... It's a no-brainer 🤯😂😂😁 until next time, keep on rocking the free world ☺️
Unfortunately I don't use a groundsheet tent very often anymore. I do have one tent that has one though. I'll try to remember to try it next time I use it (which might not be for a year). I'd really like to try using the reflectix (the bubble wrap you were referring to), AND I want to try seeing if putting the mylar on top and on the bottom of my inflated sleeping pad would make a difference... it might be a bit noisy though. But could be cool to try. That way its a big air pocket (my pad) trapped between two foil sheets reflecting more heat up? Maybe?
Thanks for your support!
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Russian sleep system:
1. Down 2 bottles of vodka
2. Pass out on the snow
3. You might live
I work with homeless and street people... I'm surprised how often this works for them. However, each of them have stories of friends and loved ones who it didn't sadly...
Hmm yeah first time camping it got down to a “feels like” temp of 25° and I was in a 35° bag. Turns out, that did not work very well 🥶
My first winter camp i was in a 20F sleeping bag (survival rating, NOT comfort as I would later find out...) and it got down to 15F. I had to use my emergency blanket, which I promptly used incorrectly (who knew!) and it gathered all my condensation so I was now not only cold, but wet and shivering... I had to bail on the trip middle of the night to try to avoid hypothermia!
Wiggys sleeping bags.
Or is it wofflies waking shell?
What does “cold sleeper” mean?
Kai,
Hmmm...it's true. You need a basic and common knowledge to communicate.
Ok, wearing wool clothing, very cold rated sleeping bag, high R-rated sleeping pad, reflective mylar, wool socks, winter rated tent, balaclava, wool glove liners, after eating a large pasta meal, and Still cold while trying to sleep. I E: " cold sleeper "
@@fjb4932 OK, FJB, now I understand.
There's some seriously controversial stuff in this video! 0 Degree bag all summer? Snacks in the tent? And....Nalgene Bottle!!!! Ok, those are legit for cold weather camping. My wife gives it the seal of approval.
Haha what can I say, I’m all about the shock factor!
That 0 bag was so nice! I could sleep without base layers all summer! It’s also some of the only times I ever remember having to temperature regulate by sticking a limb or two out. But at 4.3lbs... I upgraded to a down 20F bag that fall.
I’m glad you approve of the Nalgene bottle! And getting the wife’s approval, wow, that’s a new standard of success! Haha
Thanks Carl, lovin’ the podcast.
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An R-value sleeping pad of 4 makes anyone a cold sleeper. I would not even use a sleeping pad that cold in the tropics. R-value 5 is officially the minimum to achieve your sleeping bag's EN/ISO rating, no matter the reason. I would never go below R-value 7 in the winter.
Oh get to the point!
Takes 2 minutes just to mention the first thing, and then does a lot of fill in talking just to get to the second point.
It's as if he wants to make the video longer than it really needs to be to give the three points.
Either that, or he just loves to talk and over explain everything he talks about.
Strong Canadian accent lol
Lol I've gotten this comment a couple times now... I find it really funny because I feel like I sound like like most western americans and most of the actors I see on TV. Who knew I had an accent! haha
Backcountry Forward I can tell by certain words like out or about or house lol
Gaiters! I even have thinsulate in them... Sleep in polyester.....and a beenie....
Gert Vanpeet the gaiters I’m wearing in this video are actually insulated! They’re the only ones I’ve ever been able to find that have a fleece liner! They’re amazing!
I’m currently sleeping in polyester leggings, but I just got a merino wool shirt and hoodie which has been amazing so far!
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eating before going to bed isnt a very good idea... all the blood gonna rush to your stomach... a person with maybe low blood count will get very cold at his limbs, very fast. if you must take a calorie jelly with you, something that's easy to digest.
get to the point !!
Thank you for your input. I'll take it into consideration and continue doing what I do best.
omg. can you please stop repeating yourself. i get it. i’m not 7 years old. it’s so irritating i can’t finish this video.
I'm sorry you feel this way. You certainly don't have to watch this video. You certainly don't have to finish it if it's so irritating to you. As you rightly mentioned, you're not 7 years old, but you sure are impolite.
As you can see in the comments, there are many people who have been helped by this video, and that's all I'm trying to do, just help. I'm glad so many other people have appreciated that help!
Next time, please remember you're talking to another human being, not an TH-cam algorithm and artificially generated content.
Cheers mate!