Darrin Wiener of Patch Point pointed out that Peter's zero is all knobs at 1 o'clock, and not just the top one. Also, top is ring, low is antenna and not the other way around. Also you should not tune it yourself, as all new instruments are factory tuned and you might break things if you don't know how trimpots work.
I've really started to fall for these Ciat-Lonbarde instruments. I'm kind of tempted to start with a Tocante, they're so portable, solar powered, and quite a bit cheaper than the Deerhorn, but the Deerhorn looks like a lot of fun...
This was excellent, thank you for posting!! If you have time one day, I’d also love to see you play all your Ciat-Lombarde gear simultaneously, to get a better feel for what the ecosystem sounds like together and is capable of unassisted by outside gear. Beautiful work, and thank you again! 😀
You might like my newest video then - only the D1000 is added for a bit of drums. I also have a video "patching from scratch" on ciat Lonbarde instruments.
Amazing!! I don't know how I've never heard of the deer horn organ... as usual as soon as I get money something like this comes along and I gotta have it!! I'll never be able to be rich but atleast I'll have cool toys!!
My God! Ciat-lonbarde! I remember wanting all their "organic" gear many years ago... Thank you very very much for these kind of videos, you're great and very inspiring
Amazing tutorial as always. I’ve been looking at the deerhorn organ for so long and had no idea about its interface capabilities or the bypass function with external audio. So cooI! I look forward to listening to more of your work with it. 🦌
Thank you! I had kind of dismissed the instrument first, since I thought that three Deerhorns this close together would be hard to play. But then I tried out a finely tuned DH at Patch Point and fell in love. That is why I cover the tuning process in so much detail - its essential to get the most out of it.
Not really! The Plumbutters Deerhorn is a bit more limited - it does no go as deep by itself. I always liked it, but its much more exiting on the Organ.
Hey Hainback, not sure if you'll see this comment on an old video. But i love your music and videos! Is there a cheaper alternative to this synth that has a similar input and that warm swelling sound?
dear hainbach, what you think about using 3 theremin module of doepfer with three different sources (oscillators+...) to create something that could resemble maybe this deerhorn or that could sound anyway interesting? Have you ever tryed this theremin doepfer module controller or in general to use more than one theremin device ? It should be possible to set a "distance\sensitivity" to be able to not let the antennas interfere with each others. I actually just saw there is a lot of "theremin controller module" . have you ever use them?
Mmh, the OSCs are special on the Deerhorn. They are the secret warm sauce together with the VCAs that make it sound so pleasant without reverb. If you have similarly rich combo sure it could work with Doepfers.
tanks for answer, yet it seems that none on the web ever tryed (or show) to use more than one doepfer theremin control at once. My will would be to make a poliphonic theremin (that is what i like of deerhorn). Maybe ill try myself :)
Amazing. I have the Shbobo shynth and I’ve been interested in some real CL walkthroughs as the site is a bit shrouded in... poetry.... Love how you’re continually revealing your tools and process. I think you’ve determined your T-shirt when you get around to selling swag - “sad robot kitties” :)
Beautiful machine! I've always found those no-touch interfaces very frustrating to use - getting flashbacks to using roland d-beam for pitchbend on my synths... At least the visual feedback on deerhorn lets you know what it's thinking!
D-Beam! I had forgot about that. Yeah, I usually prefer touch but with this it feels pretty easy. Though I surely lack the body control for pitched playing.
I love you so much, man! You explain many of the more esoteric synthesizers that I am very interested in. I got a Folktek Mescaline, one of the very last units available and love it. Now I want the Plumbutter (Ciat Lonbarde), Organelle (Critter & Guitari), Lyra 8 (Soma Labs), and other strange devices. You do such a great job in these videos. Have you ever played the Zenert?
thank you Steven! I have played the Zenert - its the one Tocante I am still most interested in. It sounds like the howling wind of the mongolian steppe. I have played them all a workshop Peter gave.
HAINBACH So I guess what I've concluded, from watching these two Ciat-Lonbarde Videos you suggested ( this one, now for the 2nd time [Sad Robot Kitties] ) ...is that the Cocoquantus leans way more towards processing, but isn't without Signal Generation capabilities ( in the form of 3 Triangle Oscillators ). But the Deerhorn is more firmly rooted in Signal Generation, with slightly less of a penchant for Modulation. Sound fair?
Hi, thank you for this. Question, I have a deerhorn since a few weeks and I'm a bit confused on the tuning. I asked patch point and they mentioned that top trimmer is for antenna and bottom for ring. I presume with the three stereo inputs bottom side. Am I misinterpreting things?
Well my Moog theremin is very sensitive to the surroundings. How does the deerhorn antennas (and osc pitch) react to the patch cables and their position?
Osc pitch is rather crazy anyway, since it was not really made for that. I struggled with that as you can see in the video, but I don't have the amazing restrained and control of a theremin player. But the cables do affect the antennas - also because they are in the way when playing. Pomona cables are almist a must.
HAINBACH ok that is what I expected. And it looks that the pitch range (or more the playable space) is rather narrow compared to a theremin. So this is more for Modulation, but the cable issue makes it more or less useless if you think of a decent playable instrument that the player can get used to by practicing. The way it is it reminds me more of a guitar that gets out of tune immediately.
They are bigger which makes them more sturdy and comfortable to hold, they stack very high easily, they make contact immidiately so you can play them softly. Once you try them its hard to go back.
Of course, the 30 sec silence in the end is absolutely intentional.
it's not what you play, but what you don't play
Excerpt from John Cage 4'33" ?
Sopranos ending. Classic.
Around the ten minute mark it sounds like the most relaxed car race ever.
Darrin Wiener of Patch Point pointed out that Peter's zero is all knobs at 1 o'clock, and not just the top one. Also, top is ring, low is antenna and not the other way around. Also you should not tune it yourself, as all new instruments are factory tuned and you might break things if you don't know how trimpots work.
Danke für jedes bischen Entspannung.
Deine Videos beruhigen mich des öfteren, wenn es in meinem Kopf mal wieder zu Chaos kommt.
glad to see more people using the orange on the deerhorn as an input!
I've really started to fall for these Ciat-Lonbarde instruments. I'm kind of tempted to start with a Tocante, they're so portable, solar powered, and quite a bit cheaper than the Deerhorn, but the Deerhorn looks like a lot of fun...
Your imagination and inventivity never cease to amaze and delight me!
Amazing - Hainbach , - this planet needs more like you ! You heal the Planet ! - Just Amazing !
sad robot kitties :'(
This was excellent, thank you for posting!! If you have time one day, I’d also love to see you play all your Ciat-Lombarde gear simultaneously, to get a better feel for what the ecosystem sounds like together and is capable of unassisted by outside gear. Beautiful work, and thank you again! 😀
You might like my newest video then - only the D1000 is added for a bit of drums. I also have a video "patching from scratch" on ciat Lonbarde instruments.
Amazing!! I don't know how I've never heard of the deer horn organ... as usual as soon as I get money something like this comes along and I gotta have it!! I'll never be able to be rich but atleast I'll have cool toys!!
My God! Ciat-lonbarde! I remember wanting all their "organic" gear many years ago... Thank you very very much for these kind of videos, you're great and very inspiring
I'd love to hear you play more songs using the mixing technique.
Cool, will do!
Amazing tutorial as always. I’ve been looking at the deerhorn organ for so long and had no idea about its interface capabilities or the bypass function with external audio. So cooI! I look forward to listening to more of your work with it. 🦌
Thank you! I had kind of dismissed the instrument first, since I thought that three Deerhorns this close together would be hard to play. But then I tried out a finely tuned DH at Patch Point and fell in love. That is why I cover the tuning process in so much detail - its essential to get the most out of it.
wooow playing the mix towards the end there was the best moment of the video!! very cool
Thank you very much! I love this track, too.
I used to have a sidrassi organis and i absolutely loved it. When it was stolen ten years ago I stopped making music
This thing is astounding!
seriously would love one of these. sounds so good.
This is great thank you. - was unsure about adding this to my current CL gear - but seriously thinking about it now!!!
Same here! I did not get what it was about from reading and watching the few videos, but then I played it and it was instant love.
i love this
Ahhh you just explained the mystery of why my plumbutter's deerhorn always sounded weak when sequencing with the rollzer (14:44).
did having the plumbutter's deerhorn around help warm you up to the idea of the deerhorn organ?
Not really! The Plumbutters Deerhorn is a bit more limited - it does no go as deep by itself. I always liked it, but its much more exiting on the Organ.
Awesome 👌
I'm going to pick up a Sidrax Organ soon. Can that be sequenced with the Plumbutter too?
You should cover the plumbutter next great tut as always
Will do! Its probably going to happen within the next few weeks. Need to get broken Rolzer fixed first.
@@Hainbach they are all Digital, right?
Beautiful!
Thank you Robin!
A pleasure. I always enjoy your engaging videos and have admired the Ciat-Lonbarde devices for a long time. Might start saving up now then :-D
Das war sehr "erleuchtend" . Eine andere welt der Elektronik musik. Danke
Danke dir Bruno! Eine Herzensangelegenheit.
very cool!!!could you do a video for the plumbutter,too?
Absolutely! Should be one of the next three
HAINBACH still waiting 😬
OMG forget Theremins when you have this!!!!!
klingt schaurig-schön.
tolle videos!
Thank you!
17:01 Ah, the classic "Beauty and the WTF" trope (:
Not sure what you mean but I probably like it!
finally I got it, what it is a bout Ciat-Lonbarde ... it took a while typ 2 years
So cool!!
Great video, that single out of place stainless screw, bottom left, would annoy me though :)
Oh no, now I see it! Darrrrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnn!
Very interesting!
Nice one 🍃🎵🍃🎵🍃🎵🍃🎧
Hey Hainback, not sure if you'll see this comment on an old video. But i love your music and videos!
Is there a cheaper alternative to this synth that has a similar input and that warm swelling sound?
Thank you! I don't really know of an alternative - it is pretty special.
@@Hainbachthanks for replying! I guess I have some saving to do 😁
dear hainbach, what you think about using 3 theremin module of doepfer with three different sources (oscillators+...) to create something that could resemble maybe this deerhorn or that could sound anyway interesting? Have you ever tryed this theremin doepfer module controller or in general to use more than one theremin device ? It should be possible to set a "distance\sensitivity" to be able to not let the antennas interfere with each others. I actually just saw there is a lot of "theremin controller module" . have you ever use them?
Mmh, the OSCs are special on the Deerhorn. They are the secret warm sauce together with the VCAs that make it sound so pleasant without reverb. If you have similarly rich combo sure it could work with Doepfers.
tanks for answer, yet it seems that none on the web ever tryed (or show) to use more than one doepfer theremin control at once. My will would be to make a poliphonic theremin (that is what i like of deerhorn). Maybe ill try myself :)
Thats so cool! its kind of like a theremin but cooler
any chance on doing one on the plumbutter? this one and the coco video are amazing!
That’s definitely movie score material
Sounds a bit like something from The Lighthouse score
Amazing. I have the Shbobo shynth and I’ve been interested in some real CL walkthroughs as the site is a bit shrouded in... poetry....
Love how you’re continually revealing your tools and process. I think you’ve determined your T-shirt when you get around to selling swag - “sad robot kitties” :)
I will get my visual artist on this!
Beautiful machine! I've always found those no-touch interfaces very frustrating to use - getting flashbacks to using roland d-beam for pitchbend on my synths... At least the visual feedback on deerhorn lets you know what it's thinking!
D-Beam! I had forgot about that. Yeah, I usually prefer touch but with this it feels pretty easy. Though I surely lack the body control for pitched playing.
I love you so much, man! You explain many of the more esoteric synthesizers that I am very interested in. I got a Folktek Mescaline, one of the very last units available and love it. Now I want the Plumbutter (Ciat Lonbarde), Organelle (Critter & Guitari), Lyra 8 (Soma Labs), and other strange devices. You do such a great job in these videos. Have you ever played the Zenert?
thank you Steven! I have played the Zenert - its the one Tocante I am still most interested in. It sounds like the howling wind of the mongolian steppe. I have played them all a workshop Peter gave.
Do you think Zenert is versatile, or do you get tired of the whistling howling sounds quickly? There are almost no demo videos of it.
Reminds me of Roland's "D-Beam" feature only MUCH more intuitive, interactive and expressive.
Absolutely. D-Beam is kind of lame compared to this, if much more stable.
8:38 you're channeling Chewbacca for a second there!
yes, I hereby confirm
HAINBACH So I guess what I've concluded, from watching these two Ciat-Lonbarde Videos you suggested ( this one, now for the 2nd time [Sad Robot Kitties] ) ...is that the Cocoquantus leans way more towards processing, but isn't without Signal Generation capabilities ( in the form of 3 Triangle Oscillators ). But the Deerhorn is more firmly rooted in Signal Generation, with slightly less of a penchant for Modulation.
Sound fair?
Yes, that is about right. Deerhorn can do gestural mixing and some AM, but it's a sound generator at heart.
@@Hainbach thanks for steering me through the process :]
Hi, thank you for this. Question, I have a deerhorn since a few weeks and I'm a bit confused on the tuning. I asked patch point and they mentioned that top trimmer is for antenna and bottom for ring. I presume with the three stereo inputs bottom side. Am I misinterpreting things?
Yeah, apparently it works the other way. I think I wrote it in the description?
@@Hainbach yeah you did. I don't know, my mind was playing tricks on me... top, bottom, bottom, top...I just wanted to see if I didn't misunderstand
Do you know if the Ciat Lonbarde instrument controllers work with Buchla 200 ? Bananas etc. Thanks
They work!but voltage is way off
is tt theremin or teh-rem-mine
Well my Moog theremin is very sensitive to the surroundings. How does the deerhorn antennas (and osc pitch) react to the patch cables and their position?
Osc pitch is rather crazy anyway, since it was not really made for that. I struggled with that as you can see in the video, but I don't have the amazing restrained and control of a theremin player. But the cables do affect the antennas - also because they are in the way when playing. Pomona cables are almist a must.
HAINBACH ok that is what I expected. And it looks that the pitch range (or more the playable space) is rather narrow compared to a theremin. So this is more for Modulation, but the cable issue makes it more or less useless if you think of a decent playable instrument that the player can get used to by practicing. The way it is it reminds me more of a guitar that gets out of tune immediately.
why banana cables are superior to eurorack in your opinion , elaborate?
They are bigger which makes them more sturdy and comfortable to hold, they stack very high easily, they make contact immidiately so you can play them softly. Once you try them its hard to go back.
Beautiful kit(tie) :-)
How do Ieaskul F. Mobenthey eurorack modules compare to Ciat Lonbarde? Ieaskul F. Mobenthey seem to have much harsher sound :/
I have not gone down that rabbit hole but I might have to borrow a system to try it out. I am very curious how Peter's ideas translate to Eurorack.
tell, you these devices, synths, such pedalek you collect? where do you get all these sound devices?)
Patch Point, Common Ground, Schneidersladen - all with 15 min by bike in Berlin. All have on-line stores, too.
I'm interested in building one of these. Do you have any advice?
Start with Paper circuits, you should find them on the Ciat Lonbarde website. Don't ask me where though, you will see. : -)
Sad Robot Kitties!!!
Im so sorry but I just discovered you (instant sub) and JOHN GREEN. Sorry again.
it could be beautiful with eurorack .. is it possible to use with your system?
Yes! You need a banana to euro box and something to offset voltages
Lol subtitle says hey im Honda
10:03... sounds like my stomach. I need to get a snack.
960$ jeez
Yeah, it hurts.
No orchestra is complete with out a Deerhorn player.
Theramin meets PAIA. lol
this is stuff targeted to alpha hipsters
Ahahaha nice! The thought of Peter targeting anything alone breaks me up