Why we built CARBON CHAINPLATES [E86]

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  • @johnalden4605
    @johnalden4605 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Mamma is a work horse for the boat! She is a real asset to your project.

    • @MH55YT
      @MH55YT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gotta love mamma.

    • @davidhakes3884
      @davidhakes3884 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely !! Your Mom kicks fiber booty.

    • @RogerFleischer-p3f
      @RogerFleischer-p3f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This could have been phrased better IMHO.

  • @malcolmwillis6450
    @malcolmwillis6450 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can understand why folks questioning the carbon chain plates, because it is something they not use to seeing. As a retired naval architect / professional engineer I know they are plenty strong; the only chance of failure would be in the glue line or secondary bonding. Given the vacuum bagging and prep work that Matt does this is highly unlikely to fail.

  • @newzealandfortrump
    @newzealandfortrump ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Inspectors input was great ... you must feel so relieved getting such safety approval in this way.❤

    • @TheDuracellProject
      @TheDuracellProject  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yes, with the 5 pawz stamp of approval, we can sleep at night

    • @EUC-lid
      @EUC-lid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDuracellProject The Inspector's theme song is excellent.

  • @Nena84734
    @Nena84734 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The cat inspector was the best, loved the tapping with her little hammer! Man, that first wide layer of fiberglass was a monster, a stress monster, so much more manageable with them cut in half. What a great job though, I’ve never seen anything like that, pretty impressive!

  • @bert2526
    @bert2526 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tapping the new chain plates is like checking a friend's new car, you kick the tires a bit and nod in approval.
    I love your videos Matt and Janni. They're inspiring, educational and fun to watch. Can't wait to see Duracell float again!

  • @videotrexx
    @videotrexx ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The "inspection" segments are always hilarious!

  • @mikemcdougall8969
    @mikemcdougall8969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is ridiculous how much I love this channel. Think of me as a Duracell groupie!!!! You two are naturals in front of and behind the camera. A real pleasure to watch your project come together.

  • @larkangel6593
    @larkangel6593 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Smart decision by your fab & paint sponsors
    Great exposure from both the build and (future) sailing episodes

  • @darrylmcleman6456
    @darrylmcleman6456 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Once again it appears you have passed the Cat Scan!!!CHEERS from Here!!!

  • @scottpiggott7600
    @scottpiggott7600 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The chain plate could be used as a collapsible bow sprit where the anchor chain runs out over the end. Then fold the chain plate back up toward the boat to make the boat a little shorter thus easier to maneuver in tight places. Just a thought!

  • @josephstevens3357
    @josephstevens3357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surprised to see Evan's Zululand Yacht Club shirt. Very interesting. Didn't think anyone in BC would know of the Zululand Yacht Club

    • @evangatehouse5650
      @evangatehouse5650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard's Bay was the first South African stop in our family's 8-year circumnavigation. Had to get the t-shirt.

  • @bradfordsimms715
    @bradfordsimms715 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    How about structure for the bowsprit for the old chain plate ? Nice work BTW

    • @ghislaindevouton1553
      @ghislaindevouton1553 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to suggest it.

    • @steveraleigh100
      @steveraleigh100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ghislaindevouton1553 same here. but it would need to be longer I'd guess.

  • @MaShcode
    @MaShcode ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The chainplate could serve as a
    support arm for a salon table that can be stowed vertically against a bulkhead

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I guess now the chai plates are glassed in, you could lift Duracell by them. 💪
    great video 2x👍

  • @hamiltonal4338
    @hamiltonal4338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Inspector 🐈

  • @MrJonFischer
    @MrJonFischer ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the main and many reasons I watch your channel is to teach myself to slow down and do a job right . I get too impatient sometimes and short cut a project. I am very impressed with your overall vision for such a large project and the determination to do each step properly.

  • @bishopkinlyside8477
    @bishopkinlyside8477 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi guys, wow what a good job you all are doing Matt you have a one beautiful mother it is wonderful to see her coming to help you guys and sometimes your dad turns up. He must be busy doing something else but you’re so blessed to have a wonderful family , Cliff from Logan City Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 from the big island 🏝️

  • @michaelhaardt5988
    @michaelhaardt5988 ปีที่แล้ว

    After seeing this I understand your answer when I asked about spreading out the load. That is a wonderful solid design! In theory the load inwards should be minimal, but if it occurred nevertheless, it would concentrate stress at the top of the chainplate bonding and what you did today spreads out that load you shouldn't be getting. A race boat is built for racing. A cruising boat is best built for the unexpected.

  • @billb2176
    @billb2176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reassuring that the chainplates not only passed the naval architect but also the CAT scan - now if you had a retriever or course, then a LAB report would never be a problem - possibly challenging if the LAB technician and the CAT scanner were on site at the same time !!!!

  • @jimedson3853
    @jimedson3853 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you were able to get the chainplate project done. Nice to see the architect visit. Thanks for the video 😁😁😁👍

  • @bdphourde
    @bdphourde ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, I know that Duracell HAS to have fore and aft, upper and lower shrouds on both sides. Where are all the other chainplates? Are you going to have running back stays? Are you going to have an inner forestay? Are you going to have more than one backstay? Are you planning a solent rig on the bow?And the forestay needs a chainplate also, two if you are going with a solent rig. As I see it, there may not be enough time this year to do just the rest of the chainplates!
    As far as the "not to be used" chainplate, I had suggested asking Lloyds of London if they are interested in testing it. Big insurance companies might want to know. But personally I would hold on to it as it is very likely quite adequate for any other chainplate duties.

  • @user-bf7vy3ub9c
    @user-bf7vy3ub9c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those chain plates look so good in there. Fiberglass is such a pain to work but when done right(after a thousand times) it’s very rewarding due to the usability, performance, looks and etc…

  • @seanwalsh999
    @seanwalsh999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have probably already layed up the other side, but I was thinking it was the over head portion of the layup that was the problem as it was too heavy with resin to stick, but the side portion could be pre-wetted to save some time, and the over head portion of the same sheet could be wetted in place as you already do. Love the " cat scan ".

  • @nutsmcflurry3737
    @nutsmcflurry3737 ปีที่แล้ว

    In another lifetime, family owned a business that used a chopper gun for fiberglassing. Essentially a rotary knife cutting twine in short pieces at the same time you are spraying the epoxy. The roller we used the most was a brush rather than a paint roller or the ribbed plastic or aluminum versions. It was better at “puncturing” the bubbles to get things to lay flat.

  • @Yagba09
    @Yagba09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha! When the inspector tapped on the hull. Ah so good! I love it. Good times.

  • @gordonagent7037
    @gordonagent7037 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, your Mum is an absolute beast, I admire her immensely, she always seems to be there at the most opportune times to help out. You two obviously have an awesome, deep connection and you can see she is just so proud of her little boy and what he’s achieving. I was really interested in what the engineer had to say especially about point loading etc and I completely agree but there just seems to be something about a bolt going through two pieces of material that seems more reassuring, however, saying that and watching what you are doing with fibreglass is an amazing display of modern technology and know how especially in the advancement of glue quality now as they are so high spec. . Matt if they ever decided to immortalise you it won’t be a statue in bronze but rather fibreglass

  • @wolo4
    @wolo4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Maybe look into getting a portable air conditioner for inside the boat during the build. You can contain the cold air with plastic sheet or blankets

    • @TheDuracellProject
      @TheDuracellProject  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it doesn't get that warm here that often, even during the summer.

    • @metagoat
      @metagoat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, the PNW is such paradise. It is so hot and humid down here in Georgia right now that I cannot get any work done outside without soaking t-shirts in ice water and changing every half hour or so.

    • @lvdriver4
      @lvdriver4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forward stay?

    • @bmunday
      @bmunday ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lvdriver4 backstay?

  • @-suncheez-
    @-suncheez- ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing your build-process with us. Learning something every time with every video you release. You're awesome.

  • @sebell69
    @sebell69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOVED the Hammer from the inspector 🤣😂🤣😂

  • @pkpsail4441
    @pkpsail4441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant, good to see Evan there onsite. And the inspector is hilarious. Old chainplate, make some sort of kicker vang.

  • @liamtaylor2718
    @liamtaylor2718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Swanson's Thrush in the background is cool (the spirally sounding noise)

  • @edw.b856
    @edw.b856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:00 Obviously, please yourselves first. If you end up doing destructive testing, please document the hell out of it because 1) science 2) SCIENCE!!!
    And you'll have at least two parts to auction off 😎

  • @glennbrown222
    @glennbrown222 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have no idea why I watch this channel, but I do. I always click like because i enjoy following your adventures, I can't wait for the splash. Carry on carrying on. :}

  • @jeffreygilchrist1330
    @jeffreygilchrist1330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a swivel seat base for your work bench just have to mount a pole for it to swing on cheers

  • @1armedguy4
    @1armedguy4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use the chain plate in the windvane configuration. Cheers !

  • @RagtimeBillyPeaches
    @RagtimeBillyPeaches ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Using the left over chain-plate as a folding dive platform for eels.

    • @chrisc738
      @chrisc738 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Inconceivable!

  • @mngbennett
    @mngbennett ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My guess is the extra chain plate could be part of a hinge for a droppable transom that converts into a swim platform. It just feels like one side of a hinge and a swim platform would need some pretty strong hinges.

  • @metagoat
    @metagoat ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the angle that the interior volume of the boat is shown at 13:39. So much room!

    • @metagoat
      @metagoat ปีที่แล้ว

      The inspector, I love it!! 17:18

  • @scottkasper6378
    @scottkasper6378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m definitely captivated by the epoxy pour every time

  • @hedleyjackson5131
    @hedleyjackson5131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like adult Matt has nailed reassembly! Fails chain plate becomes a paddle.

  • @AngusJohnson-ei1kk
    @AngusJohnson-ei1kk ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole project is amazing . But you are taking this to a whole new level . You are introducing other sailors to a new building process. Best you and I'm sure she will be bomb proof in the end.
    Angus. SV Violet Walters

  • @philiphardman9576
    @philiphardman9576 ปีที่แล้ว

    well done w the chainplates guys.. outstanding, thats a clap from me..

  • @reefslayer21
    @reefslayer21 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have zero interest in sail boats but I love the fab work and would like to do more epoxy and less polyester/vinyl ester in my boat builds, these videos are awesome

  • @TotalBoat
    @TotalBoat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome progress this week! Great work

  • @randyhonsberger47
    @randyhonsberger47 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video you and your mom work well together and we appreciate the inspector

  • @lincolngrove2808
    @lincolngrove2808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too dismantled a lot of things as a child, it was some time before I learnt how to make them work again. It's a great apprenticeship, there's not much I won't have a go at fixing or building now.

  • @Seafariireland
    @Seafariireland ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe use the unused carbon chain plates for bow or stern stays or for giant hinges for a stern platform or hinges for stern Davitts??? Wow, that was a lot of layers on top of the carbon but I thought it would be more desirable to have a larger surface area to spread the loading over a wider area! Or what about continuing the overlays all around the lower hull and joining up with the future keel attachment area and back up the other side to the opposite chainplates and maybe then across the deck strengthening the mast base area and back to the first side??? That would then make a sort of space frame, or would it? So many things that can be done with this technology! Best of all, Kitty can then check it all out!!! Maybe there is a song there, or a poem??? SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.

  • @edwardh2444
    @edwardh2444 ปีที่แล้ว

    We always look forward to the vacuum pump going on your glassing!! The strength that the vacuuming adds must be amazing and the finish is better. We don't see other boat builders using this method.

  • @edryan2926
    @edryan2926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific progress! That was great to see the engineer stop by and approve of your work! Thanks for all of the explanations, and putting some fears to rest. Great video as always, and keep it up.

  • @jasonholmes6137
    @jasonholmes6137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need stock in total boat for real this boat a.k.a the Abrams tank your building will be insane when complete just epic really cant wait to see her sail and i wouldn't upset if you wrapped it in carbon black and did orangy teak decking to make it look like a battery i think she would be amazing

  • @robm.4512
    @robm.4512 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s going to get a hardox tip fitted and be the one and only pawl for a REALLY BIG all Carbon winch.
    Or, a heck of a bow roller sprit that’ll have a just touch of springiness for shock absorption under bigger snatch loads.
    Or, a cool emergency tiller? 🤷‍♂️
    No worries here about the chainplates’ glue area.
    Nicely done
    Cheers, R. 😎👍🍻

  • @bevanwelsh347
    @bevanwelsh347 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spare chainplate could be used as a table leg, or a step up to the cabin roof, or a support for a folding seat at the chart table

  • @RNVOS
    @RNVOS ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations on making it!
    Dreams come true!
    ❤ from 🇨🇦

  • @ScotChef
    @ScotChef ปีที่แล้ว

    That inscrutable inspector though i was on the edge of my seat! Looking good 👌🏻

  • @trep53
    @trep53 ปีที่แล้ว

    From where I sit there doesn’t seem to be any question about your design, construction, methods or solutions. You are the toughest critic and would not be willing to risk anyone’s life on that boat. Besides, Mr. Plant set the standard of Duracells construction quality for you to follow. Keep up the great work before you know it you will be sailing her.

  • @sebastianhugely7035
    @sebastianhugely7035 ปีที่แล้ว

    So reassuring having a engineer to give his approval it’s great to think you’re doing okay! I think you surpassed his expectations

  • @TheJarrodh
    @TheJarrodh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would definitely trust the laminated chain-plates the way you've done it rather than a couple dozen bolts / holes through my hull.

  • @sailingsibongile
    @sailingsibongile ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh... Zululand Yacht Club.
    I've been there plenty of times.
    I went to school in Richards Bay, South Africa.

  • @nickviner1225
    @nickviner1225 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your laminating skills are amazing.

  • @RogerFleischer-p3f
    @RogerFleischer-p3f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's great to have your architect-engineer Evan working on site, side-by-side.

  • @Brian-os9qj
    @Brian-os9qj ปีที่แล้ว

    Testing it sounds ideal for the build curious folks. I agree to that.

  • @kaufmanjeffreys
    @kaufmanjeffreys ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking good…. It looks super strong and incorporates a huge safety factor

  • @markgreen7701
    @markgreen7701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on getting that project done!!

  • @MH55YT
    @MH55YT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good episode. I now feel 5% more confident the chain plates won't fail. I think the load test is your best idea for the extra chain plate. I'm curious about the three slots at the top of each chain plate. This connection area looks like a weak link. Test this area for strength.

    • @imusuallycorrect
      @imusuallycorrect ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like you have no idea what you're talking about. Matt is too polite to reply and only gave you a like.... lol. The slots are for the different rigging... D1 or D2 and Vs. The connection is at least 10mm thick. 10mm of carbon unis can lift your house. It's fine.

  • @user-no5md4dr2p
    @user-no5md4dr2p ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Loving the project!
    I understand the benefits of laminating the chainplates, but the previous chainplates were bolted directly to the knees, weren’t they? This takes the load to the string points designed for the purpose. I presume the fibreglass laminate does the same.

  • @mikehunte398
    @mikehunte398 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Inspector seemed quite pleased with the chain plates, a good sign. A testament to the power of Mom's, at this point I'm convinced Matt is just a pretty face for the camera.

  • @Fr3DDy73
    @Fr3DDy73 ปีที่แล้ว

    these chainplates looks just FAN TAS TIC!
    What a job!

  • @alexmeyjes5533
    @alexmeyjes5533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dont you have a bow to fix still ? Incorporate the 'plate ' in the bow repair , or better yet incorporate it with anchor windlass placement

  • @barneyhartman-glaser6972
    @barneyhartman-glaser6972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation of how the carbon fiber chain plates work vis-a-vie the glue joint to the hull. It is truly amazing that thickened epoxy when used as an adhesive over what looks to be a surface area of about 1 square foot can handle a sheer load of tens (hundreds?) of thousands pounds. So awesome.
    Quick question, if one were building a hull from scratch, could one integrate the carbon fiber chain plates into the hull itself?

    • @evangatehouse5650
      @evangatehouse5650 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. The reason we did them on the inside of the hull was because it we lapped them over the hull on both inside and out, you would have a 16mm strip of carbon on the outside standing proud of the hull surface. This would have to be faired over a very large area to make it smooth and disappear.

  • @Deutschtown
    @Deutschtown ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation on the gluing! I am much more at ease with this procedure now.

  • @ThoughtfulWander
    @ThoughtfulWander ปีที่แล้ว

    Duracell team making it look easy! Nice job! Keep rolling along! 👍👍

  • @jeffkovacs6521
    @jeffkovacs6521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode... thanks again for bringing us all along on this project. While I am certain there'll be loads of great suggestions, I'd like to offer up the idea of either a pivoting seat or step. Looking forward to whatever you guys elect to do!

  • @krispress7824
    @krispress7824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt is a perfectionist and it’s over engineered 👍

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow5312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video, thanks for bringing out the research, design, test, install part.

  • @tamecheetah
    @tamecheetah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chain plate converted into a unique block as part of the rigging?

  • @bartwesp4303
    @bartwesp4303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it may not be captivating, but it is good advertising for your partner Totalboat!
    Having your Totalboat link in every description would make it easier to use, or on a Facebook page?

  • @_instabil
    @_instabil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am new to this channel. It is very nice to see its a family project. Enjoy your time, I’ll follow from here :) My thought for that part: A chainplate for the backstay? Babystay?

  • @joecioe8566
    @joecioe8566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was good to see Evan there to see the project firsthand. Curious to see what you will use the extra chainplate for. Love your channel.

  • @pmacgowan
    @pmacgowan ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the cat inspector 🙂

  • @sdcofer52
    @sdcofer52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt, the only thing I can think of is the torsion on the connection where the chainplates come out of the hull. I'm not exactly clear about the connection to the rod or wire shrouds. If there is a way for the type of turnbuckle to absorb the torsion forces so that they aren't transferred to the carbon fiber chainplate that would be good. Not sure if I really know what I'm talking about but, outside of that, they look bomb proof. Keep up the excellent work and you have one heck of a mom to help as much and as well as she does.

    • @ducbox572
      @ducbox572 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The chainplates should be (and look to be) aligned with the shrouds. Also, the turnbuckle/toggle assembly gives rotational freedom in multiple directions.

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the redundant chainplate would actually make a cool (slightly springy) seat support for the workshop /worktable/desktop.

  • @DrMott
    @DrMott ปีที่แล้ว

    Cat inspector is fantastic!

  • @andrewmoylan6295
    @andrewmoylan6295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In to the space age, Matt, looking great.Thats one picky inspector, even went for the lick PH test 😂
    Solid work mate

  • @stevewenban2300
    @stevewenban2300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just another tick on the list of things to do , awesome work Matt

  • @thatcher857
    @thatcher857 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guess is the chainplate will be used for an emergency tiller!
    Btw, curious about the stainless tube insert in the carbon. Heating/cooling of the steel puts tremendous strain on the epoxy overtime as the metal expands and contracts, resulting in cracking, and delamination. This can be seen with alloy bottom bracket inserts in carbon bike frames, hence why most bottom brackets are now entirely carbon. This problem will occur anytime you have metal bonded to composite. Hope this helps! Cheers!

  • @fossilfool
    @fossilfool ปีที่แล้ว

    Great composites documentation.

  • @carlbielawski5034
    @carlbielawski5034 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job mate and Mum. Should be proud of that upgrade👍

  • @rorybainbridge7516
    @rorybainbridge7516 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure that with the amount of glass and epoxy you've put over the top it's stuck to the Hull very well, all with out any load points.
    The thing that i would be worried about most, with carbon chain plates, is the constant pulling from stainless rigging. Every time you tack, jibe, sheet in or out there will be wear.
    But tbf I'm not a naval architect...

  • @glynncleaver7398
    @glynncleaver7398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see it's all had a good cat scan

  • @h2ohous
    @h2ohous ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not remember what the backstage situation is, but you could use the rubbish chain plate as a backstay attachment.

  • @Gottenhimfella
    @Gottenhimfella ปีที่แล้ว

    Passerelle hinge? Strongback for a large hatch? Lever for a dinghy-style vang?

  • @Finn-McCool
    @Finn-McCool ปีที่แล้ว

    Use the scratch chain plate for a flip up tiller handle.
    ... because every sail boat needs a flip up tiller handle.
    ... for the door-pull on an interior bulkhead door.
    - 😏

  • @posidontrident
    @posidontrident ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see the inspector back

  • @flossey100
    @flossey100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great progress and looking forward to what’s next💖💖💖🇦🇺

  • @sherikorn8532
    @sherikorn8532 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you were figuring out your Stanley Cup hockey pool on the whiteboard in the background. Love it. How did you make out?

  • @FullyAMPT
    @FullyAMPT ปีที่แล้ว

    The old chain plate could be a very heavy duty hinge for the swim platform

  • @TeoMarevic
    @TeoMarevic ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode!! :) could you use this chainplate for a babystay or somewhere else in the rigging where the load is not that strong? Or maybe as a prop shaft holder under the hull...

  • @larrimos
    @larrimos ปีที่แล้ว

    When you were painting the chain plate the metal of the paintbrush tapping against carbon fiber created a noise I didn’t expect. It sounded like…ceramic? Brick? The sound of charcoal briquettes being poured from a sack!….I guess that would make sense…carbon.

  • @erictakakjian6021
    @erictakakjian6021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really impressive lay up job on the chainplates! I wonder if you were using an extra slow / tropical hardner to keep the epoxy from kicking while you are working?

  • @sailor5026
    @sailor5026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very impressive.