I don't really like multiple parts, but I also enjoy a longer video as well showing more than what they showed in this, but I do get not many will like sitting threw a 20 - 30 min or hour long video lol.
@@VikingDudee Yeah it's perfectly ok to watch longer videos for example if you need step-by-step guide for something. But I really enjoy this Garage 54 style where the task seems almost impossible at first, but after couple of minutes they are already driving full throttle.
they were doing this here,boring holes i head for spark plugs and puting electronics for spark it worked but was expensive,while on other side they made diesel use gas to run it but stil needed diesel fuel for ignition,
I hope not! They are entertaining as hell! And very crafty and great at explaining what they're planning on doing, and how they somehow jury rig it into actually working 😆
@@prestonspencer6094 i'm not an expert but couldn't they use one of these holes to inject the fuel into the combustion area? I'm thinking of installing the spark plugs where the glow plugs are located and replacing the diesel injectors with gasoline ones. Then they just could install the turbo or am i totally wrong right now?
When Vlad does these things it's cool because it shows the years of experience, this young guy is brilliant in problem solving and is real cool to watch. We need more forward thinking youngsters as him
Not actually true, there are plenty of diesel engines with less stroke length than gas engines. Mercedes OM606 is only ~86mm for example, chevy 4200 is ~106mm.
No, there are many automotive diesels that have a square or a nearly square bore to stroke ratio. Think old VW 1.6 TD and new 1.6 TDI, pretty much any Mercedes diesel made from 1980 to 2009. etc What makes them low revving is their cam profile. Aggresive cams severaly reduce low rpm compression, and diesels rely on heat from compression to combust. Meaning an agressive cam could make a diesel run better in high rpm, but you would have a hard time getting it started, especially cold
I'd say it is the cam profile, it is designed for a low reveing diesel engine. Is there a gasoline powered version of this engine, if so do a cam swap.
Absolutely true. You know how gassers with agressive cams run rough at low rpm ? Well diesels rely on heat of compression to ignite the fuel, so their cams must be mild to retain low rpm compression. Valve overlap will make your diesel impossible to start.
I am guessing the heads for a cam swap from gas to diesel would be alot different not allowing things to line up correctly. It might be worth looking into though, otherwise custom cam profiles aren't super expensive. You could probably get in contact with comp or someone of the sort and just tell them what you have and what you want and they should be able to figure the rest out. Low lift cams usually give you torque and sacrifice horsepower and high lift cams usually goes the other direction. Then you have lsa which also adjusts where in the power band peak horsepower comes in. I believe thats how that works. Then you have duration which does something too 😂.
All ladas are 12V and a blow through setup would require a special carb, otherwise it would be just pissing fuel outside once on boost. A draw through would work though.
It's wholesome as f to see Vlad is back, but it really nice to see the younger gentleman in these newer videos. He is a great addition. Great to see the Deitrol is running great.
Do that in my normal Diesel, only about 150ml for half a tank and a fuel stabilizer 75ml (can't rember what it's called) doesn t make it any faster but idles better and pulls better (let's me use all the power it's got not just some)
Put the carburetor on the intake side of the turbo in order to use it as a draw through style. That will simplify your install as well as help cool the intake charge of the boost pressure. Then I would try using e85 or consider blending some diesel in with the gasoline to prevent detonation. As for the lack of power and at the higher RPM is most likely due to the camshaft profile and timing. Good luck!
It’s good to see Vlad back, questions they asked is how to turbo it - Do a blow through setup with a fuel pressure regulator as per the Corky Bell book Maximum Boost
Happy to see Vlad is well! I would suggest looking at a different camshaft. The diesel camshaft would be optimally designed to perform at a lower rev range consistent with that of a Diesel engine which is probably why the performance tails off over 3000rpm. Good results could be achieved from that engine as is on a carburettor, but set up correctly, without the need for a turbo or fuel injection.
I thought the same thing watching this video. Also valve spring strength and head flow are also things that could use to be tweeked. This dude is a evil supervilan and I love how differently he approaches the automotive world.
For another project, I would love to see you revisit the idea of mounting an engine and transaxle sideways to run a front and rear differential in an AWD vehicle.
I'll tell you what would be really cool to see, how this thing would feel with a turbo. That camshaft is designed to never rev higher than 3500 RPM, so that's why it falls off so quickly.
^This, Plus also the bore/stroke ratio - bottom end counterweight, conrod length, could contribute to that "diesel" sounding petrol engine and the power/torque characteristics you're seeing.
The reason it still sounds like a diesel is because they are using the diesel exhaust manifold, the low RPM power is from the modestly sized cam used in diesel engines. Because the combustion chamber is the same shape the vibration frequencies are likely very close to the same as before the engine converted; also contributing to the diesel sound.
@@Reziac does that mean that on day 1 god didn't give us the heavens, instead he gave us Russians, and on day two he gave the Russians five more days to finish? Haha? Not that I believe in god, but that's a good opportunity for a joke. Lol.
those diesel lifters are going to make the engine sound like a diesel even though it now uses gasoline. my 225 (3.7 L) slant six engines use solid valve lifters like the engine used to have when it was a diesel engine. Mopar never used hydraulic lifters on that engine that i am aware of. the changed the block casting to slant it 30 degrees so a lower hood profile could be used on their cars/trucks, changed the cylinder sleeves, the cylinder head and ignition timing, spark plugs sit here the diesel injectors would have been. so, if what you are hearing is a "rattling" like a diesel, that is why. my engines do it all the time, and are running on all 6 cylinders, and running good, pleanty of power/torque. glad to see you are back and better Vlad. also, maybe keep that young guy in more videos. (the look on his face when the engine fired up was priceless).
well if you put a turbo, make sure you retard the timing enough since it is already knocking, the extra pressure will definitely knock even more. also using the same turbo might help with the "volumetric" when it comes to how much air in/out it needs and in the same REV range. (unless Diesel expels more exhaust gas out...)
Have done a lot with it, a very simple water injection setup would help with the knocking a lot. Does not need to be complex, I used a garden mist sprayer nozzle on a 60PSI diaphragm pump with a boost( Hobbs) pressure switch on some applications and just a switch under the throttle on others. Make a 50% Methanol mix for the WI and the things will really pick up some power and be hilarious to drive.
I really like these guys. They remind me of the days when I did things like this. Shoe horning a Chevy 283 into a Willies Jeep that I used for plowing snow, swapping a small Chevy straight 6 for a gas hog V 6 in a GMC van. Switching an old Plymouth flat head 6 for a dodge V-8 in a truck crane I had. Changing the cab on a Chevy truck and shortening an old Pepsi delivery truck by 4 feet and 3 inches and converting it into a wrecker. Lots of fun. Now it's all transistors and diodes and all I do is check the oil and run it through the car wash.
AMAZING stuff! Thanks for getting more of the guys to help in the last few episodes! Hope Vlad is feeling better! HUGE FAN ✨ love how crazy you guys get with the suggestions!
Cyril has hosted many episodes on the Russian channel. He is very good. You can watch those Russian episodes with YT auto-translate and get a good idea of what is happening.
The longer stroke effect from the diesel engine will give you the torque but they don't like to rev as hard. When we changed bus diesel engines to compressed natural gas we too put the plugs in the injector holes but the key thing was to reduce the compression ratio c/r from diesel level to gas/petrol level to stop pre-ignition. We refitted the head using two head gaskets and that dropped the c/r down to the required level and that worked fine. Only other change was the timing, natural gas burns slightly slower so you have to advance it a bit. Otherwise, guys, loved the video, well done and looking forward to part 2!
These guys are excellent mechanics and engineers to get this crazy stuff to work as well as it does!!! The torque comes form the longer stroke than is not used on gas engines these days. Old cars and Diesels have a stroke that is longer than the bore diameter, opposite of modern gas engines. My old Dodge with a flathead six and Fluid Drive happily takes off in high gear.
Garage 54: We present our high compression gasoline engine , built with some junkyard parts laying around. Mazda Skyactiv Engine Engineers: How it's that possible? We spent millions in research.
it should be pretty strong compression wise, diesels way higher than a gas engine. you may have to lower the compression down to about 12:00 to 1, from 20 to 1. also, the Pistons and connecting rods and crank are way heavier, way stronger, but way heavier as well. so it'll be interesting to see how much power it actually would make. this is not uncommon. look up 350 Oldsmobile diesel. many drag racers in the 70s and '80s used to use these blocks from the diesel, as a race gas engine, due to its much stronger webbing. I haven't watched the video yet, let's see how it goes.,...
Vlad, I'm glad you are feeling better, I like your young replacement, but you make these videos very entertaining. I love your channel, your crew is top notch, there is a very familiar feeling watching Russian men have fun with engines, there are a lot of us here in America that enjoy tinkering.
The power is low and its dropping off at high rpm because you're using a small carb and intake on a large engine. Its going to have a very similar power curve to the Lada but at lower rpm. Try two of those carbs. :)
@@osbberjen Cam timing isn't going to make that much difference that it drops dead at 4000rpm. There would be no gain to using a cam so small even in a diesel and especially in a turbo diesel. Its a mix of the intake being restrictive at that power level and the timing being all over the place. Oh and this diesel is a conversion of an older petrol. The architecture is pretty much identical and even the cam specs are the same as some of the lower powered petrol versions. Those engines make peak power (around 90ps) at 4700 and rev to over 6000 so that cam isn't holding a ~60hp Lada intake and carb back.
I'd adjust timing and would look at shifting the camshaft a tooth or two and see if that can shift the power band further up the rev range. The would look into larger carby jets.
I love this channel. Think you guys can turbo it for science reasons? 🤣🤣I wrote the turbo idea in the beginning of this video. I think I might be Russian because I share your thoughts. You guys are brilliant
Here I was, impressed by conversion to petrol, yet waiting for the conversion to gas LPG. I keep forgetting the gasoline bit as we don’t use that term here in Aus. Great conversion by the way. Very cool.
@@miksu7784 Really.... Ethonal is alcohol? That wouldn't be the reason I made the comment I made.... No.... Has nothing to do with knowing what it's made of....
Build an engine with a different firing order so it will have simultaneous power strokes The outer 2 cylinders fire together and the inner 2 fire together and see what happens You will have to change the cam aswell or not im not to sure
Welcome back Vlad! I would like to see a similiar experiment from you guys. But on this one take a diesel engine like the one you used. Remove the injection pump and injectors. Don't lower the compression ratio. Add spark plugs and carburetor but run on diesel or kerosene.
Uhmm, now i think that you guys should try to make a motor that you can go and Change from diesel to gasoline and vise-versa, like when on gasoline have one of the valves bein Open for a little bit for lesse compression and have both spark plug an injector
Do you mean both spark plugs and a glow plug? Because gas cars often have fuel injectors also, so thats no big deal. Mainly older cars use carbs still. They could just buy any engine made after 2000 from honda or toyota and have spark plugs and fuel injectors. But diesels need glow plugs to run since they require more heat to start combustion than is provided by spark plugs. Sounds like this would mainly have to be two engines crammed into one car, imo. But i could be wrong about that part.
@@VeraTR909 they typically can run on gas and/or E85 fuel, right? And there are diesels that are converted to run biodiesel and/or vegetable oil, i think. Im not aware of any vehicles that can run on gasoline and diesel interchangably.
@@Honey_Daddy not really necessary, its more for really cold days, my 60 yrs Old diesel tractor starts on first pra segund time by hand with a rope and a stick to grab the rope even wen 3 or 4 months without starting
hope its not to late but there are kits for the 472 motor i had in my 68 Cadillac that uses a turbo that pipes the boost to the intake on the carburetor where it then mixes with the pressurized air like a normal carb. i believe its called blow through turbo charging, should be an easy fabrication for your crew!
Shorten the conrods. This will do two things. It will give a lower compression ratio eliminating the detonation and will change the power to come on at higher revs. A shorter stroke will make the engine want to rev higher. And will be happier doing so. You would most likely need to consider a lighter flywheel and cam profile also. All these things could be done in separate videos to show the changes. Putting a turbo on before these changes, especially before lowering the compression ratio will not end well for the engine. Keep it up
add a super charger and turbo with a fuel injected carb :) Back yard Group B rally setup ! In guessing light boost 5psi each 10-12psi total might be 180hp ?
I just watched both of these and it was awesome! You mentioned wanting to put a turbo but had to ditch the carb but you can actually still use a carb with a old school suck though turbo setup where the carburetor sits away from the engine then has a 90 degree intake then feeds into the inlet of the turbo compressor and there would be no need to mess with crazy jetting because the carb is still being pulled not pushed
Who else loves all the needless narrative? I swear these Russians just love to hear themselves speak. They could relay their ideas with about 3X fewer words.
Great , great , well done .... It drive , it' s alive . Sugestion from here , go for the turbo , Can't wait to see how it works . hmmm what about compressor ? and turbo combination ....... I hope you get the timing solved so it run perfect . Keep it up guys and have fun .
Ignition timing and fueling adjustments. Racers in america used oldmobile Diesel 350ci from the Cutlass Supreme and converted it to gas. They changed the heads to get it to run on Gas and was banned in racing.
Been wanting to see someone do this for a long time. No doubt the lack of top end power is due to the cam profile being both for low down power and the burning characteristics of Diesel not petrol. A taller diff ratio would take advantage of the low end grunt and give the thing better top end feel as it wouldn't have to rev so hard in the first place for good speed. Excellent Vid, would love to see this developed seriously a bit more. Would make a great tractor or tow car engine!
Don't know much about cars, but damn I'm learning alot from you guys...soon I'm gonna be the best damn shade tree mechanic in the world..you crazy ass guys rock the auto world..love it!
Fit a bigger carb and make sure the carb is level. It's leaning to one side a bit. Back off the ignition timing, if it still knocks then the compression is still too high. As for the turbo, you could try a blow through carb set up first.
Fun video! The Crankshaft is balanced for the original pistons (4mm of crowns heavier) and would lose in the higher RPMs. Also, the longer stroke would give you the extra torque down low.
To set up a turbo with your setup: I do not know what your carburetor mounting flange looks like, but if it is ANYTHING like a US Holley or Weber 2 Venturi base, get a Holley or FAST EFI system (stand alone unit, or you can tie an electronic distributor into it), get a snorkel hat instead of an air cleaner; and just add turbo. You can program the EFI system to do whatever you want. Not exactly cheap, but far easier and more effective than trying to rig up a blow through carburetor (you would definitely need a 4 Venturi for that).
Glad Vlad is back. Hope the younger guy gets to co-host with him moving forward on some episodes, though. He's really skilled as well.
The young lad is very good at the job too
Vlad is the russian McGuyver. Give this man a paper clip, screws, a lawn mower and some vodka and he will craft you a cummins.
the young vlad has proven him self as a host/co-host
I think his name is Cyril. He's one of the Garage 54 OG's! I like his style a lot, I too would like to see him co-host.
@@fullraph Yes, Cyril is a good host, a great mechanic, and a great driver. It is only natural to give him more hosting opportunity.
“The prop shaft might be hitting something”
Ah dont worry lets just continue
im dying 😂
Russian way
@KATZ MOTEL96 at least its automated 😂
@KATZ MOTEL96 good spot, I didn't notice that. I can't stop laughing.
I ask my dad what that noise was. He tell me when it goes out we will know what it was.
Happens even in unmodified Ladas. Really, nothing to worry about xD
14:07 door flings open, casually shuts it 😆
I saw that and thought ... There is a Boss move.
South America and Russia only feature.
Automatic ventilation
It's great how you edit these videos so well that it doesn't take weeks to see the end result.
They shot this many weeks ago.
Ahh. I see. You mean they dont break the vids up into several parts. Agree. I appreciate that they don't do that.
I don't really like multiple parts, but I also enjoy a longer video as well showing more than what they showed in this, but I do get not many will like sitting threw a 20 - 30 min or hour long video lol.
@@VikingDudee Yeah it's perfectly ok to watch longer videos for example if you need step-by-step guide for something. But I really enjoy this Garage 54 style where the task seems almost impossible at first, but after couple of minutes they are already driving full throttle.
Yeah. It's no "Project Binky" LOL
I love this little series. I remember an old mechanic always telling me he wanted to try it
USA made trucks that can run on just about gas diesel even motor oil.
they were doing this here,boring holes i head for spark plugs and puting electronics for spark it worked but was expensive,while on other side they made diesel use gas to run it but stil needed diesel fuel for ignition,
Would love to see the horsepower before and after a turbo swap.
I'd love to see them use a draw threw setup as well with the right sized carb and all. Be a neat little touch I think.
They will never run out of ideas
Ikr
Or ladas
I hope not! They are entertaining as hell! And very crafty and great at explaining what they're planning on doing, and how they somehow jury rig it into actually working 😆
Well , their fans don't stop themselves from giving crazy ideas too!!
The factory hospital pee bottle fuel tank means that you don't need a fuel gauge.
Innovative.
I noticed that the glow plugs were still installed. The combustion heat can cause them to glow red, and cause detonation and loss of power.
This^
The fuel is probably burning way too early!!
Didn't they swap in spark plugs where the glow plugs were in the first ep? Could have that wrong
@@SpacePills1 no in the spot the diesel injectors were they put the plugs
Absolutely right. They need to take the glow plugs out and plug the hole with something that won't heat up so much
@@prestonspencer6094 i'm not an expert but couldn't they use one of these holes to inject the fuel into the combustion area? I'm thinking of installing the spark plugs where the glow plugs are located and replacing the diesel injectors with gasoline ones. Then they just could install the turbo or am i totally wrong right now?
When Vlad does these things it's cool because it shows the years of experience, this young guy is brilliant in problem solving and is real cool to watch. We need more forward thinking youngsters as him
When vlad came back that made me smile! So glad he’s doing good and able to work on things!
Welcome back Vlad..Diesels have a longer stroke so lots of torque but not designed to rev high due to the piston speed in the cylinder mid stroke.
Explains a lot
Not actually true, there are plenty of diesel engines with less stroke length than gas engines. Mercedes OM606 is only ~86mm for example, chevy 4200 is ~106mm.
No, there are many automotive diesels that have a square or a nearly square bore to stroke ratio. Think old VW 1.6 TD and new 1.6 TDI, pretty much any Mercedes diesel made from 1980 to 2009. etc
What makes them low revving is their cam profile. Aggresive cams severaly reduce low rpm compression, and diesels rely on heat from compression to combust. Meaning an agressive cam could make a diesel run better in high rpm, but you would have a hard time getting it started, especially cold
A longer stroke doesn't result in more torque. th-cam.com/video/7Pfz1zbg-JA/w-d-xo.html
@@petarmiletic997 A camshaft doesn't affect compression, it affects where an engine's peak volumetric efficiency will happen relative to engine rpm.
Give that young man a raise , he sure knows his stuff , and he's good in front of a camera
“Gives you a feeling it’s foreign made”
Please tell me this is a common phrase in Russia 😆
I think it is common phrase in all post communist block countries:p
Yes it is
sure is.
Yep that's everywhere but china.
I like that it's a low rev engine. Taller gears could be a direction to go.
Ye it’s all about the gearing and timing especially if they nail it.
Welcome back Vlad... Even if it's been said a zillion times
Zillion and 1
I'd say it is the cam profile, it is designed for a low reveing diesel engine. Is there a gasoline powered version of this engine, if so do a cam swap.
It's definitely the cam profile producing the low end power and killing the top end! After all, the engine probably isn't designed to rev past 4k
build an engine for MAX torque at low rpm
Absolutely true. You know how gassers with agressive cams run rough at low rpm ? Well diesels rely on heat of compression to ignite the fuel, so their cams must be mild to retain low rpm compression. Valve overlap will make your diesel impossible to start.
I am guessing the heads for a cam swap from gas to diesel would be alot different not allowing things to line up correctly. It might be worth looking into though, otherwise custom cam profiles aren't super expensive. You could probably get in contact with comp or someone of the sort and just tell them what you have and what you want and they should be able to figure the rest out. Low lift cams usually give you torque and sacrifice horsepower and high lift cams usually goes the other direction. Then you have lsa which also adjusts where in the power band peak horsepower comes in. I believe thats how that works. Then you have duration which does something too 😂.
Turbo blow threw system with su carb will work on the lada,,no need for fuel injection ,,make sure you upgrade ignition to 12v with good coil
All ladas are 12V and a blow through setup would require a special carb, otherwise it would be just pissing fuel outside once on boost.
A draw through would work though.
It's wholesome as f to see Vlad is back, but it really nice to see the younger gentleman in these newer videos. He is a great addition.
Great to see the Deitrol is running great.
A bit of two-stroke oil would do for a bit more lubrication for the top end
Do that in my normal Diesel, only about 150ml for half a tank and a fuel stabilizer 75ml (can't rember what it's called) doesn t make it any faster but idles better and pulls better (let's me use all the power it's got not just some)
Nha, not necessary.
The voiceovers with the different accents and stuff is hilariously awesome ❤
Thanks, mechanics! Glad Vlad is feeling better! Thanks also to the translator!
Nice job on this …. Turbo with a blow through hat!
And welcome back Vlad, glad you’ve recovered 107% of the way.
Put the carburetor on the intake side of the turbo in order to use it as a draw through style. That will simplify your install as well as help cool the intake charge of the boost pressure. Then I would try using e85 or consider blending some diesel in with the gasoline to prevent detonation. As for the lack of power and at the higher RPM is most likely due to the camshaft profile and timing. Good luck!
It’s good to see Vlad back, questions they asked is how to turbo it - Do a blow through setup with a fuel pressure regulator as per the Corky Bell book Maximum Boost
"It really gives you the impression like its foreign made " 😂
Happy to see Vlad is well! I would suggest looking at a different camshaft. The diesel camshaft would be optimally designed to perform at a lower rev range consistent with that of a Diesel engine which is probably why the performance tails off over 3000rpm. Good results could be achieved from that engine as is on a carburettor, but set up correctly, without the need for a turbo or fuel injection.
That was one of the things I was gonna comment. A different lift-duration cam would help
I thought the same thing watching this video. Also valve spring strength and head flow are also things that could use to be tweeked. This dude is a evil supervilan and I love how differently he approaches the automotive world.
I love the fact that you guys have so many Lada's!!
Vlad's back! Glad to see him feeling better and back on camera! I bet he was wanting to jump in there with you guys the entire time he was sick
Loving this young lad is he's always been in the show but it's great to see him running the show
Welcome back Vlad good to see you back. And yes please use a turbo on it.
it is the diesel camshaft that holds back the high revs. Nice to see you back Vlad.
That keeps it from making high end power, however the stroke keeps it from revving higher
For another project, I would love to see you revisit the idea of mounting an engine and transaxle sideways to run a front and rear differential in an AWD vehicle.
Great effort!! Great to see Vlad is back!!
I'll tell you what would be really cool to see, how this thing would feel with a turbo. That camshaft is designed to never rev higher than 3500 RPM, so that's why it falls off so quickly.
Was just gonna type the same thing lol
Canshaft need to be changed in to a petrol one
^This,
Plus also the bore/stroke ratio - bottom end counterweight, conrod length, could contribute to that "diesel" sounding petrol engine and the power/torque characteristics you're seeing.
The reason it still sounds like a diesel is because they are using the diesel exhaust manifold, the low RPM power is from the modestly sized cam used in diesel engines. Because the combustion chamber is the same shape the vibration frequencies are likely very close to the same as before the engine converted; also contributing to the diesel sound.
These guys seem like they're shooting a Russian TV show. I cant get over how fast they turn out new stuff that are so intricately involved.
They really have it down well now. Always an excellent vid!
The world was built by Russians... in 6 days flat. :D
@@Reziac does that mean that on day 1 god didn't give us the heavens, instead he gave us Russians, and on day two he gave the Russians five more days to finish? Haha?
Not that I believe in god, but that's a good opportunity for a joke. Lol.
@@jasonwcoleman250 LOL, yes, better math :)
I love the exhaust sticking out of the side, proper muscle car !
I’d like to see it stay NA, but address the cams and valves to get it to make more power up top and possibly rev higher
Head may not flow enough for bigger lift designed for diesel low rpm need to be ported
@@iknowyourebrokeauto468 at least that should be easy to do for them
those diesel lifters are going to make the engine sound like a diesel even though it now uses gasoline. my 225 (3.7 L) slant six engines use solid valve lifters like the engine used to have when it was a diesel engine. Mopar never used hydraulic lifters on that engine that i am aware of. the changed the block casting to slant it 30 degrees so a lower hood profile could be used on their cars/trucks, changed the cylinder sleeves, the cylinder head and ignition timing, spark plugs sit here the diesel injectors would have been. so, if what you are hearing is a "rattling" like a diesel, that is why. my engines do it all the time, and are running on all 6 cylinders, and running good, pleanty of power/torque.
glad to see you are back and better Vlad. also, maybe keep that young guy in more videos. (the look on his face when the engine fired up was priceless).
What a great suprise seeing vlad! Cyril and Vlad make really good duo :)
Glad your better vlad. Cylinder head may not flow enough for high runs along with cam lif/duration designed for low rpm diesel
well if you put a turbo, make sure you retard the timing enough since it is already knocking, the extra pressure will definitely knock even more. also using the same turbo might help with the "volumetric" when it comes to how much air in/out it needs and in the same REV range. (unless Diesel expels more exhaust gas out...)
Have done a lot with it, a very simple water injection setup would help with the knocking a lot. Does not need to be complex, I used a garden mist sprayer nozzle on a 60PSI diaphragm pump with a boost( Hobbs) pressure switch on some applications and just a switch under the throttle on others. Make a 50% Methanol mix for the WI and the things will really pick up some power and be hilarious to drive.
I really like these guys. They remind me of the days when I did things like this. Shoe horning a Chevy 283 into a Willies Jeep that I used for plowing snow, swapping a small Chevy straight 6 for a gas hog V 6 in a GMC van. Switching an old Plymouth flat head 6 for a dodge V-8 in a truck crane I had. Changing the cab on a Chevy truck and shortening an old Pepsi delivery truck by 4 feet and 3 inches and converting it into a wrecker. Lots of fun. Now it's all transistors and diodes and all I do is check the oil and run it through the car wash.
Great great video, Cyril is a great addition to Vlad's presenting
I like Cyril. Hope to see more of him
@@larryb.lindsay2366 yes, Vlad's still the man but Cyril goes into super detail regarding the engineering challenges, love G54
AMAZING stuff! Thanks for getting more of the guys to help in the last few episodes! Hope Vlad is feeling better! HUGE FAN ✨ love how crazy you guys get with the suggestions!
glad to see the big man back. I hope this is just the first collaboration between these two
Cyril has hosted many episodes on the Russian channel. He is very good. You can watch those Russian episodes with YT auto-translate and get a good idea of what is happening.
The longer stroke effect from the diesel engine will give you the torque but they don't like to rev as hard. When we changed bus diesel engines to compressed natural gas we too put the plugs in the injector holes but the key thing was to reduce the compression ratio c/r from diesel level to gas/petrol level to stop pre-ignition. We refitted the head using two head gaskets and that dropped the c/r down to the required level and that worked fine.
Only other change was the timing, natural gas burns slightly slower so you have to advance it a bit.
Otherwise, guys, loved the video, well done and looking forward to part 2!
What a great load of guys!
They're insane in the good way lol
Glad to see you back in the guys did a great job while you were out we wouldn't mind seeing more of the work you know if it's been tossed around
How about a small diesel engine (8-10 hp?) to spin a supercharger in a draw through carb setup?
These guys are excellent mechanics and engineers to get this crazy stuff to work as well as it does!!! The torque comes form the longer stroke than is not used on gas engines these days. Old cars and Diesels have a stroke that is longer than the bore diameter, opposite of modern gas engines. My old Dodge with a flathead six and Fluid Drive happily takes off in high gear.
Garage 54: We present our high compression gasoline engine , built with some junkyard parts laying around.
Mazda Skyactiv Engine Engineers: How it's that possible? We spent millions in research.
"researchers" that get employed are anything but.
just money hogs.
@@dimitar4y Mazda monkies with the intake valve timing to minimize cylinder pressure……i have CX-30 and it’s a crazy setup but it works!
What a wonderful channel. Clever, imaginative, and humorous. Thanks!
Would of been nice to see this motor on the dyno as a turbo diesel, then now as a carby and then turbo carby and see what the power differences are
welcome back Vlad, happy to see your healthy again, hope you go full out on this build, exciting to watch
it should be pretty strong compression wise, diesels way higher than a gas engine. you may have to lower the compression down to about 12:00 to 1, from 20 to 1. also, the Pistons and connecting rods and crank are way heavier, way stronger, but way heavier as well. so it'll be interesting to see how much power it actually would make. this is not uncommon. look up 350 Oldsmobile diesel. many drag racers in the 70s and '80s used to use these blocks from the diesel, as a race gas engine, due to its much stronger webbing. I haven't watched the video yet, let's see how it goes.,...
Many tractor pullers now convert big diesels to run on alcohol.
They machined 4mm off of the piston crowns to drop the compression to 10:1
Vlad is back, so glad you are feeling much better!!
No joke, but you can run it on speeduino, cheap standalone ecu and one day setup!
Glad you're back Vlad. Good to see you made it through. Your guy there is awesome. Still can't believe it fired right up.
Ah, this project is a man's dream. Hamfist the impossible and stubbornly create the insane!
Vlad, I'm glad you are feeling better, I like your young replacement, but you make these videos very entertaining. I love your channel, your crew is top notch, there is a very familiar feeling watching Russian men have fun with engines, there are a lot of us here in America that enjoy tinkering.
The power is low and its dropping off at high rpm because you're using a small carb and intake on a large engine.
Its going to have a very similar power curve to the Lada but at lower rpm.
Try two of those carbs. :)
no, its the cam shaft, timings is way off. the carb may have something to do with it, but the cam is the main problem
I think it has a lot more to do with that 50 pound flywheel they used on it
@@wirebrush no, a heavy flywheel would not hurt performance in high revs. it would just make the engine use longer time to rev up.
@@osbberjen Cam timing isn't going to make that much difference that it drops dead at 4000rpm. There would be no gain to using a cam so small even in a diesel and especially in a turbo diesel.
Its a mix of the intake being restrictive at that power level and the timing being all over the place.
Oh and this diesel is a conversion of an older petrol. The architecture is pretty much identical and even the cam specs are the same as some of the lower powered petrol versions.
Those engines make peak power (around 90ps) at 4700 and rev to over 6000 so that cam isn't holding a ~60hp Lada intake and carb back.
@@wirebrush The flywheel affects how quickly the engine can change rpm. It has no bearing on actual power made.
I'd adjust timing and would look at shifting the camshaft a tooth or two and see if that can shift the power band further up the rev range. The would look into larger carby jets.
that Cam shaft is going to be out of steam after 3K
Enjoying this project. Glad to see Vlad!
I love this channel. Think you guys can turbo it for science reasons? 🤣🤣I wrote the turbo idea in the beginning of this video. I think I might be Russian because I share your thoughts. You guys are brilliant
Here I was, impressed by conversion to petrol, yet waiting for the conversion to gas LPG. I keep forgetting the gasoline bit as we don’t use that term here in Aus. Great conversion by the way. Very cool.
Next: Diesel engine converted to run on vodka
You're looking at its twin
You can run a normal gas engine with vodka
Next: diesel engine converted to run on gasoline converted to turn gasoline into vodka.
@@mikeznel6048 strong vodka is the same thing as ethanol. U only need bigger jet and change at compression to run alcohol.
@@miksu7784 Really.... Ethonal is alcohol? That wouldn't be the reason I made the comment I made.... No.... Has nothing to do with knowing what it's made of....
That’s superb! Nice work. Look forward to seeing what you do next.
If it's not in this episode I wanna see it on a rolling road
In bliat mobil
the thing that is so awesome about TH-cam is that people from all over the world can get together and have some fun
Build an engine with a different firing order so it will have simultaneous power strokes
The outer 2 cylinders fire together and the inner 2 fire together and see what happens
You will have to change the cam aswell or not im not to sure
yep. you need to change the cam to do that
@@osbberjen ok cool so the intake and exaust valves open in pairs
That’s basically a Yamaha “cross plane” motor
@@braaapattack2937 that's not how a cross plane work, it's the opposite in fact
@@braaapattack2937 not a cross plane, but that would be a good idea for a future video
Welcome back Vlad!
I would like to see a similiar experiment from you guys. But on this one take a diesel engine like the one you used. Remove the injection pump and injectors. Don't lower the compression ratio. Add spark plugs and carburetor but run on diesel or kerosene.
Uhmm, now i think that you guys should try to make a motor that you can go and Change from diesel to gasoline and vise-versa, like when on gasoline have one of the valves bein Open for a little bit for lesse compression and have both spark plug an injector
Do you mean both spark plugs and a glow plug? Because gas cars often have fuel injectors also, so thats no big deal. Mainly older cars use carbs still. They could just buy any engine made after 2000 from honda or toyota and have spark plugs and fuel injectors. But diesels need glow plugs to run since they require more heat to start combustion than is provided by spark plugs. Sounds like this would mainly have to be two engines crammed into one car, imo. But i could be wrong about that part.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multifuel Multifuel engines are a thing.
@@VeraTR909 they typically can run on gas and/or E85 fuel, right? And there are diesels that are converted to run biodiesel and/or vegetable oil, i think. Im not aware of any vehicles that can run on gasoline and diesel interchangably.
Old tractors from the great depression have that. They start and warm up on gasoline then switch over to diesel.
@@Honey_Daddy not really necessary, its more for really cold days, my 60 yrs Old diesel tractor starts on first pra segund time by hand with a rope and a stick to grab the rope even wen 3 or 4 months without starting
Crazy homebrewed stuff guys!
BTW, that Volga trans looks suspiciously like a T5!
Ah finally, a new Supra that has an actual Toyota motor in it.
hope its not to late but there are kits for the 472 motor i had in my 68 Cadillac that uses a turbo that pipes the boost to the intake on the carburetor where it then mixes with the pressurized air like a normal carb. i believe its called blow through turbo charging, should be an easy fabrication for your crew!
yo guys need to get turbo on fuel injection on that thing and see when it blows that what we need
:)
O think they have to make this one run good then start modify for turbo
They definitely need to sort the cam/timing out before throwing boost at it.
Knock, knock, knock
Vlad walks in half way thru the video - great!
Next convert 4 stroke to 2 stroke on a full size engine.
Happy to see you're doing well again. You give me hope to see 107% success rates..... thanks from America
Shorten the conrods. This will do two things. It will give a lower compression ratio eliminating the detonation and will change the power to come on at higher revs. A shorter stroke will make the engine want to rev higher. And will be happier doing so. You would most likely need to consider a lighter flywheel and cam profile also. All these things could be done in separate videos to show the changes. Putting a turbo on before these changes, especially before lowering the compression ratio will not end well for the engine. Keep it up
pistons will hit the crankshaft with shorter conrods, maybe a few mm is possible but not much.. and it will not make the stroke smaller
add a super charger and turbo with a fuel injected carb :) Back yard Group B rally setup ! In guessing light boost 5psi each 10-12psi total might be 180hp ?
Diesel engines have a much higher compression ratio, which needs harder valves. This is what makes diesels sound so noisy.
I would try regular tuning first. The timing curve and total timing, carb jetting etc
I so want to learn Russian
Its been two years, how much have you learned?
I just watched both of these and it was awesome! You mentioned wanting to put a turbo but had to ditch the carb but you can actually still use a carb with a old school suck though turbo setup where the carburetor sits away from the engine then has a 90 degree intake then feeds into the inlet of the turbo compressor and there would be no need to mess with crazy jetting because the carb is still being pulled not pushed
Who else loves all the needless narrative? I swear these Russians just love to hear themselves speak. They could relay their ideas with about 3X fewer words.
"About 3× fewer words"
Could've said: (1/3)rd words
You 'Murrikans aren't any different
Great , great , well done .... It drive , it' s alive .
Sugestion from here , go for the turbo , Can't wait to see how it works .
hmmm what about compressor ? and turbo combination .......
I hope you get the timing solved so it run perfect .
Keep it up guys and have fun .
Ignition timing and fueling adjustments. Racers in america used oldmobile Diesel 350ci from the Cutlass Supreme and converted it to gas. They changed the heads to get it to run on Gas and was banned in racing.
Been wanting to see someone do this for a long time. No doubt the lack of top end power is due to the cam profile being both for low down power and the burning characteristics of Diesel not petrol. A taller diff ratio would take advantage of the low end grunt and give the thing better top end feel as it wouldn't have to rev so hard in the first place for good speed.
Excellent Vid, would love to see this developed seriously a bit more. Would make a great tractor or tow car engine!
If you have a 4 barrel Holly laying around It'd be hilarious to see it on that Latta. Good to see you well again, Vlad.
Glad you are back Vlad !! and Greetings from here in Mount Juliet (near Nashville) Tennessee USA
Don't know much about cars, but damn I'm learning alot from you guys...soon I'm gonna be the best damn shade tree mechanic in the world..you crazy ass guys rock the auto world..love it!
Hi guys, perfect idea for the turbo. Just don't forget that your compression ratio can be very high to fix a turbo. 👍👍👍
Fit a bigger carb and make sure the carb is level. It's leaning to one side a bit. Back off the ignition timing, if it still knocks then the compression is still too high. As for the turbo, you could try a blow through carb set up first.
Fun video!
The Crankshaft is balanced for the original pistons (4mm of crowns heavier) and would lose in the higher RPMs.
Also, the longer stroke would give you the extra torque down low.
I like how the younger guy is still taking over even with Vlad back, Nice.
To set up a turbo with your setup: I do not know what your carburetor mounting flange looks like, but if it is ANYTHING like a US Holley or Weber 2 Venturi base, get a Holley or FAST EFI system (stand alone unit, or you can tie an electronic distributor into it), get a snorkel hat instead of an air cleaner; and just add turbo. You can program the EFI system to do whatever you want. Not exactly cheap, but far easier and more effective than trying to rig up a blow through carburetor (you would definitely need a 4 Venturi for that).