Dashing My Way Out Of Debt | Ep. 160
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They need to stop calling it a tip unless it is given after the drop off. It is a bid to get their order delivered and should never be allowed to be taken back! They are offering a bid to an independent contractor to provide a service and if you accept their offer and provide the service, they are not obliged to give anything more but they must give you what was agreed upon. “Tip baiting” is actually illegal.
Agreed. Tip baiting is fraud, and the platforms are complicit in fraud by allowing tip baiting
This is the exact reason why they won’t do it. Because then if they are given substandard service, it’s basically a small claims case to get your money back based on a contract violation
I agree with you 100%
Absolutely! It should be worded as such too.
As far as Meaty Mama not getting her money after calling customer service...
UE customer service, even at the "Diamond level"is very inconsistent!! The overall English comprehension is horrible. Especially notice this with their reading.
I had the same thing happen to me. When I contacted support I worded it like the contractor that I am, and they can't just take back their bid, after a successful delivery. Uber made it right. A time they didn't make it right was being sent to either 4 or 5 restaurants ( t o which I named them all) where the order was already p/u many drivers a go. At the very least I should've been paid $3 per location. NOPE! I got $3 period, and they put a cancellation on me. How can I cancel something I was so far removed from?!
Then recently, I came upon an accident, where there was no traffic flow in one direction, and seriously jammed up the other direction. Thought since this is a major road used to get from one side of town to the other, I would give Uber the heads up, so they can route drivers on a different road. I do 3 more runs, then suddenly, w/o warning I am taken off line. They want a pic of my vehicle, and proof of registration, but it doesn't let me send it.
I'm pissed cause I have a pretty good idea what this is about. I try to resolve in chat, and keep getting a run around about a safety investigation. So the short of it is that I was penalized for their lack of English comprehension. And NO they didn't compensate me for their f*ck up! But I did learn something- don't deal with customer service if you don't have to. Being nice will just cause a lot of stress, and frustration.
Whoever does that are called “Indian Givers”
If Uber thinks it's not a big deal about the tip, they should take the hit.
I think the drivers should be able to rate the customers, so drivers know what type of customer they are delivering to…
Before we even accept. Right in the offer. But I know Uber wants their cut of the money, so they stack sh*tty offers behind good ones, if no one takes it.
I always wish there was a way for local drivers to form a page and let other drivers know who the tip baiters are. I have the addresses for them and the ones that are a total pain in my phone. Dropped a shop and pay last night for a difficult customer I had before who wants you to send her pics of several complete aisles, ask store associates and search other spots to find out of stock items. Then to finish off the trip she was supposed to give me the door code, didn’t work and waited 15 minutes downstairs at night for her to get her kids together to come down and answer the door. Best part was when I saw the pay and realized that while it was decent for the mileage and items, literally none of it was tip. Realizing it was the same address and order saved me a lot of irritation last night.
I've been thinking and saying the same thing about needing a local message board for gig workers.
Same for the excellent delivery drivers
I used to drive for “gopuff” and they had THE best feature I have ever seen doing gig work delivery. They had a notes section for the drivers, It made it possible to leave a comment about the active delivery you are on. the address for example if someone had a dog or a “watch your step on the 4th stair” etc. there were also the comments if customers didn’t tip were rude etc. Because how else do we hold customers accountable for tip baiting. It’s straight up theft. I really wish we had that feature in all the delivery service platforms.
I used to drive for GoPuff, too. I loved that concept, along with the fact that you don’t have to shop for anything, or get pinged to every restaurant in town. The last straw for me was my last delivery went to a housing project that’s unsafe, even during the day. The facility wasn’t in the best part of town to begin with, and they had no problem sending us to some of the worst neighborhoods/apartment complexes in Greensboro, NC. I wasn’t too thrilled with the pay to miles ratio, either, so I just went back to DoorDash and GrubHub.
It should be universal!
Spark does have that feature, it's optional to use as you can click "skip" and go past it. I use it regularly just so Spark or the next driver knows what to expect.
It's not illegal since tipping is optional. The order payment is not even processed until the driver completes the order, so they can change it anytime before then
Meaty Mama, I am SO SORRY that woman screwed you over on your tip. They should be ashamed of themselves doing that to someone that is bringing them their stuff, especially in 100° weather. I'm angry for you! Then getting that message from your neighbor. You seemed to be having such a good day. You handle the weather so well. I would be melting. It was sad to see them take the wind out of your sails.
Terrible that the woman removed the tip. So Sorry that happened. It's 100 out you are doing her a favor by delivering what she needed. Just terrible. I tip 20% all the time for things I order thru skip the dishes I live in 🇨🇦 the service is always appreciated. I have health issues so unable to go shopping myself. Or go out to eat so I sometimes have it delivered. It is a service someone is doing for you. And it should be appreciated, not taking a tip away. Love your channel.
100 degrees, and you drop off beast mode. Props, l would die.
My heart goes out to you for all your hard work trying to make a living. Sorry if you didn't get what is owed to you. Drivers are the scapecoat for other problems that happen. Just wish they paid drivers more money for each delivery.
Ive had tip baiting happen twice to me. Call in and speak to a manager , and they will give you back the tip. I had them apply it ! I wasn't playing with uber,only a manager can fix it
You work hard for your money, Mama. ❤
New to this channel, now I'm hooked haha. 👍
I think I would had gone ballistic if someone would had removed a tip for no reason, then the response was keep working. You took it well.
Do it long enough and it will happen.
When I switched paying by PayPal through Walmart delivery, Walmart took away my option to tip drivers. So, what I do now is write "cash tip in envelope under welcome mat" (under instructions section). I always tip my drivers, and taking away tips to these hardworking folks is SO MEAN!
You have a wonderful daughter!
You work hard and deserve them good tips
You may already know this but on Walmart app, if we customers select shipping option instead of delivery, we cannot leave tip. Walmart algorithm will decide which portion of order is fulfilled by Spark drivers and which by Fedex /USPS. We can only leave tips when we select delivery option. I bet those terrible orders you see with a bunch of drop offs, bunch of miles, and no money are bundled "shipping" option orders.
When I order I only do items that allow delivery to be selected. The items that only allow shipping I skip on because what hapoens is you can't select a tip, and the "shipping" items arrive by delivery anyway but on different times and days. It's a mess so I don't do it, EVER!
Those are typically the batched delivery orders. I don't like those orders but if I'm desperate I will take them. I think Walmart and Spark severely underestimate how long those deliveries take.
Thanks!
Thank you ♥️
I like to give a 10 $ minimum tip.👍
I really don't know what is fair.
About 25 yrs.ago I gave a young highschool kid a 5 $ tip.he was so shocked
😁it made his day
You are one hard-working young lady 👍. Hang in there my friend - Karma will be coming for the tip stealer 🙂
Hi from Minnesota MM. It's almost 2:30 AM. I am having a bad painful foot for the past few days. One of the reasons I truly appreciate what you do.
Prayers for you and your precious kids. ❤🙏🙏 Hang in there Mama. You're doing great!
I would be calling B.S. on your neighbor. If they weren't having plumbing issues why did they ask your plumber to snake their drain. No no. They already had a problem that went down to the neighbor below them. Keep your head up and stand your ground. 😊😊😊
I didn’t even know they could remove a tip. I find that absolutely unacceptable. They are thankless and they do not realize all the effort that you have put into picking up and delivering something for them in the summer hate and traffic.
Yes, they have an hour to take away or give more. On instacart you have 2 hours to reduce and 2 weeks to up the tip.
Where’s your wagon? Don’t forget to use that so you just have to make one trip.👍🏻
I give you SO much kudos for doing gig work in 100 degree weather. I don’t think I could do it. Especially since Florida it is so freaking humid! Hugs meaty mama!
"Thats why I fed my kid with boobs" took me out 😂😂😂😂. 😅😅😅 ❤❤❤❤
I stopped calling Uber about tip baiting because if I hear "Leaving a tip is the customers discretion and they aren't obligated to leave a tip" one more time, I might throw my phone into a lake.
Thats terrible to take tip away. I'm sorry that happens.
I get that, but I feel as though we should complain every time it happens. We should not stop making noise about it.
This happens a lot with UE around my area .
The Uber customer support is more based on Uber ride share where the tip is an extra and you don’t expect it. Then you uno reverse card them and ask them if $2 is fair pay for a 10 mile trip and they have no answer. The tip isn’t an extra, it’s what makes the trip worth while
I just don't do Uber Eats because of this reason. I can't afford to be tip baited. I'd rather deal with Doordash. At least I've always received the money I agreed upon. Sometimes it's not the greatest but I don't get robbed without my consent either, lol
I know someone who does Instacart and he says the customers remove the tips a lot! I don’t think it’s right!
I understand the reasoning behind the customers not tipping with istacart. We did an order wasn’t right and I couldn’t get an actual person on istacarts site to help with the issue. We will not be ordering from them again.
Red Robin 😂 I love it when you call things random names 😂😂
That's because it's called a round robin!!
I've only seen a couple of videos.im glad because I don't know what to tip,but I hope there happy with the tip. I gave my favorite dasher 50 dollars because she's super fast! I can tell your a great worker❤
Call support, not chat and get the tip back. Tell them the customer broke the terms of the contract and uber needs to make it right. Some customers are just p.o.s. and i agree uber needs to get rid ofmthis option. I've never been tip baited but i would loose my shit on support if they refused to make me whole.
I just started doing spark last week and have had some similar issues as you have but grateful for the extra income. Thanks for making me laugh and knowing I am not alone in this craziness. Stay safe out there!
If you get bad service I can understand I’m taking a tip away. If you’re doing a shopping order and I don’t have all the items I can understand them lowering the tip but not taking it away.
Tip baiting is why I quit UE. It got to be quite a problem in my market.
Sorry MM regarding the tip baiting. Too bad those who got affected not write to corporate with their concerns and or speak to a supervisor on shift. Like many said here to address it to UE everytime it happens. Try not to overload the bag(s) if groceries on your shoulder since in time it will affect your neck, shoulders and back. Please be careful! Blessings
I never take tip away. I understand what hard work is. Ok watching now. You definitely should earn 20 a hour. I get 19.00 a hour doing my caregiving for a agency. Btw i like the other ring tone.
I feel bad that happened to you. If they knew how hard you worked and how hard it actually is to pick up these orders and deliver them. People are ignorant that don't tip or remove tips!
Just want you to know, I keep you in my prayers. I really enjoy your video journey!
I would be such a failure at this. I'm navigationally challenged. You found this even with bad directions.
Removing your tip could be Theft by deception.
I don’t park at Walmart. I live about 5 miles away from either Walmart in my area and I pick and choose my round robins from my kitchen table. If I’m out 15 miles doing a delivery, I still get round robins. So don’t stress yourself out by having to be there. I turn all my apps on and just go with the best ones that come in. Early morning round robins are the best. For some reason, people tip better😄. And I cannot stress enough to check your quantities heavy and “bulky” items!
You're lucky you get them from that far away. I live rurally and drive into the nearest metro area to Spark or do UE, IC, etc. I have to be at the store or within a mile or so to get the good ones. They'll shoot me the crappy fcfs ones from a few miles out but nothing I usually take. Maybe it's a smaller town versus urban thing or how saturated the market is but I envy people who can get an order from home!!
Hi Meaty Mama. I think you should be able to rate the customers since customers can rate you. You could give other drivers a heads up what kind of customer they are. Take care of yourself. 💜
I got accepted yesterday! I am ready to see what spark is paying in my area. Not sure if you have a wagon but it helps me out a lot.
I just made that comment. I just got accept for Spark and I will start on Sunday morning
❤❤❤😅😅😅Mama!😅😅😅❤❤❤People who do that, tip bait, will find KARMA is real😊.I love you girl!❤
On the memberships. If you remember I was having a difficult time trying to find the option button to turn on membership "gifting" in your live. I found out why. This info might be helpful for those with the same problem. I had to google this several different ways to get this answer. It was not easy for me to find. But....it's because my channel is branded. I don't know what that means exactly but something to do with having more than one channel associated with the same email address I believe. It can be changed. I'm scared to do it because of all of my videos and subscribers. I don't want to take the chance of losing them. Hopefully this info is helpful.
❤ so glad you are getting a good spark order you are a smart cookie 🍪 love what you do God bless you and your beautiful family 🙏💗
I have started a list of the tip baiters on Spark. It is so wrong!
Ha you’re killing me with the Dorothy thing! 😂😅
Do you have the option to block certain addresses so you won't get anymore deliveries for them? Or... If you take another delivery from them and realize after you took the order, can you cancel and return the food back to the restaurant?
Hi Meaty Mama! Great video! Have a great weekend!!!
You said the narrow stairs at 18:56 made you nervous, but I was nervous seeing the red stuff, was that BLOOD? 🧐
I thought I was the only one who noticed this. It could be coffee seeing that it wasn’t a massive puddle.
@@ruthcavendish6252 lol. You have a keen eye as well. I rewound it a few times to try to figure it out, lol.
You're wonderful, Mama . ❤ You are setting an amazing example for your daughter, our sweetheart, Potato.
Sending a little something for all that Potato does to help out. ❤❤ Have a great weekend. All my love to you and your beautiful children. 💙
I ordered from a store before and order was wrong. When I contacted support I specifically asked that the driver still get his tip. The support person said he would but I received a full refund. I suspect Uber didn’t pay him the full tip out of their pocket. I suspect the customer had a similar experience .. maybe ? Sorry that happened to you. Uber should pay in these situations.
Hey there. I stumbled onto your channel. I totally manage my delivery gig apps much like you do. I will probably comment again about my issues with door dash. I still log on some times but it kills me because they do not care about us drivers. I wonder if they do the same particular things to you. But for now, I really wanted to say thank you for creating your channel and curious about what city and state you drive in.
Be careful out there.
Oh man, I am so sorry about that tip bait! I had that happen to me too. I was delivering 10 PIZZAS!!! I walked up to this house and a bunch of teenagers were having a party. This underaged drunk girl waddled up saying, "OH MUY GAWD, THE FUUD ISSS ERRR!!" When I left, they took the tip off...DoorDash, paid like 4 bucks and the tip...ZERO DOLLARS! I was so tempted to go back to the house later in the week and rat her out to her parents! 😆
But if it makes you feel better, I LOVE your channel and I think you're hilarious! Please keep posting and I hope there are many more unicorn offers in your future!
Hi Meaty Mama, your content is entertaining. Stay safe out there and get that money! 💰
"Uploaded 19 seconds ago. No views". GATDAMN, this might be my 1st and last time ever catching an upload this quick! LOL!
I got the Dorothy thing! I loved that movie Twister! I have probably watched it 20 times.
I dont miss dashing in AZ during the summer temps. Those stairs looked scary.
Yes, that goes into tornadoes. If you see flying cows, run 😊😊😊😊😊
Uber Eats customer service is straight trash!!!! I've picked up sooo many orders where the restaurant says someone already picked it up....or the restaurant is closed...just horrible!!! Need to call department of labor..lol
I avoid UE customer support like they're the plague. Terrible.
Same. And last week I called to see if customer service would compensate me for driving over 5miles to the restaurant and they told me no because I’ve already been compensated too many times for other drivers picking up the orders. I was livid. It is NOT MY FAULT this happens! I hate Uber. With. A. Passion. But I’m desperate for money so I deal with/all the BS tht pi$$e$ me off
I totally agree! They should not be allowed to take back the tip without a legitimate reason. For what they did means you did not get compensated for your time or gas and that SUCKS! You can only hope that you'll make up for it on another run. Which it seems you did on this day, but I'm sure that's not always the case. So sorry that happened, some people are just awful! Glad you ended the day with decent pay. As for the condo issue, again, some people just suck!! Be safe out there! 🌟
Have a great day
I’ve had tips removed from DoorDash twice when I didn’t think they could do that for absolutely no reason other than being too efficient and polite
Mam there's a leaf in my order. no tip! 3:08 LOL
😂
thanks for changing the chime of your app notifications. it's MUCH more tolerable when watching now. thanks!
Keep it up Mama!
Spark customers sometimes tip bait too. I remember one that did and I won't deliver to them any more. I've seen orders from them come out and I won't even think about it. There was one order with 3 drops and they were the last one, I thought about taking it but their stop was going to be very late, only barely on time for food safety. The reason I'm so mad at them. First it was a shopping order. I got all their food, quickly. 2nd it was 8 miles out of town. I delivered quickly. Then the tip was removed. They stole my services. Or they stole my money.
Always check walmart address sometimes the app and gps don't match
You have to be some kind of a-hole to tip bait! And people are so lazy about cart return.😠
Agree! Cart Narcs on You Tube is hilarious.
Being able to pull a tip without having a suitable and verifiable reason is just ridiculous. I'm sorry you had that bad customer, and that the neighbors were being jerks again, I'm glad you were still able to hit almost $25/hour as a balance for the bad and annoying!
Red Robin, Yum….😂
That’s all I was singing in my head afterwards thank you for that
I love seeing u get great orders, u get so happy 😊
I don’t think they should allow customers to remove the tip at all.
Amazing u got in contact with UBer support. Could not do it to complain about no tips and call
I got a stack a stack when it’s not in my eye. Accepted a 1 order delivery. then they added another order
It was 111°F here in Phoenix Arizona…… Yikes, you have the heat as well how do you like your KONA shoes. ?
"$42?! That is why I fed my kids with b**bs". LOL! I love it! You're awesome!
Thank you I was gifted one.
I thought I was the only one who was scared of stairs, also escalators, high bridges, and mountain roads. 😅😅😅
They give me intense anxiety 😢
I'm kinda scared of busy freeways also...
the only time I took the tip off of a delivery for myself was when my order was delivered to a warehouse instead of my house. I saw the delivery pic. and my house was easy to find. not sure what was up with that but what a hassle for me to have to wait for the refund then shop again. ugh!
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I’m careful about taking orders for on Uber eats these days for the same reason. I got tip bated last night 29.95 for a HUGE order that took up half my back seat at a pasta restaurant and they gave me 7.95
I was doing Spark two days ago and it was a $40.00 offer for 3 drop offs . I went back the following day to look at my earnings , and they dropped the tip from $24.01 or $00.00 .
I would keep track of addresses that do this and not ever drop off to them again. Never had that to happen yet but oh my if it does... the roof is coming off.
I was tip baited the other day on UE. first time in all the years I've been doing delivery. ended up with $5 for a nearly forty mile round trip. Called Uber to see if they could flag the guys account to see if he does this often. They said they could block me from getting any more orders from that address or customer and they also said they'd flag the account hope it wasn't BS because even UE support said I got to his address before the estimated time and he didn't file a complaint about anything he was just being a jerk!
That is terrible!
Sorry ppl are horrible about tipping.😢❤
The reason why they took off the tip is the timing because of the gps. That’s my guess
"Do you want me to deliver a boat?"
I'm thankful for prop 22 in Cali these platforms reimburse you when tip bait happens. And we get weekly adjustment for the money we should have made.
I had two tip baiters; one yesterday and one today. I was going to let the first one go, but two days in a row is bullshit. I called Support and after explaining the situation and asking for a supervisor, they gave me the full amount for both deliveries. Tip baiting is such a waste of time. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Fight for every dollar that you earn.
This is why I only take low risk orders on Uber. I only take orders that are 5 miles or less from my main area that way if I do get tip baited I didn’t waste much time. I get some offers for 20-30 miles, nope, not until Uber guarantees the original amount the customer put in if the order is delivered on time.
26k miles on your car? Hope you didn’t buy it new, otherwise you are working each day to just pay back the depreciation on your wheels. Always pay cash, and if you can buy one 6 years old, depreciation stays close to zero for a couple years usually. If you have debt - you GOTTA watch Dave Ramsey you tubes. He’s a genius and MOTIVATES! Got me out of debt way faster than I would have ever thought.
You have to kall and ask for a supervisor when they do that shit on Uber eats.. those regular agents will never give you your tip back…… I get mine back all the time by calling and requesting a supervisor I don’t even speak with those agents anymore..
No they just know . If they give a tip . It get s there faster . So us driver . Won't take long . .
Sorry about that tip baiter, I really like your idea of customers having to get the tip removal/lowering approved by Uber
Be careful carrying those vacuums with just one hand. I worked at Kohl's for three years and I can't count the times the whole side of the box would rip open. It can be too much weight for that one handle to bear.
I just found you, enjoy you... I have a question ❓❓ I normally tip $5.00 cash when I receive my order.. Should I just tip that extra on site instead?? What helps you better?? Thanks 💜💜
No Answer???
@CarolA-ww5rk She is a busy single working mama with tons of comments, so can't always reply to everyone. I'll answer your question tho 😉
Drivers prefer you tipping up-front in the app/online. Also, you will definitely get your order faster (and hotter/fresher food) if you tip in the app. Otherwise, these apps can pay us as low as $2/delivery. So, your order will get delayed bouncing around from 1 driver to the next as the app adds like a quarter to the pay each time until the delivery pay is enough for someone to take. Hope this helps 🙂
I hate tip baiting! I have tried complaining to UE as well. I told them to look at my pickup/dropoff times and my texts to customers because I always give them an employee name that i confirmed the order with since most are sealed. I also give any updates to the customer as I go. They still say tips cannot be enforced or reimbursed. It says on their faq that drivers are able to leave ratings for customers and restaurants, but they have never been able to tell me where I can do that. We should be able to rate customers, and it should pop up with their offer. It is straight up theft to make an offer and then decrease that offer after services rendered with no legitimate complaint. UE knows this is happening and does not change their tipping policy because it allows them to get the base fees from the people who do this and wont order on DD because they know they cant get the tip back. UE doesnt care about the driver cause they are still getting their full cut
I'm trying to figure this all out I hear a lot of doordash... drivers in my community complain. No tipping, gas money
If it's that bad and so miserable why don't you find yourself a normal job working 9am to 5:00. Full time..
Then you can make more money you're not wasting money on gas.
I have a job in retail 5 minutes away from my house. I am saving so much in gas.
If I had a bike I could just ride my bike to work.
Another great video MM. sidenote What happened to you on the baby formula delivery is the reason I rarely take those $5 orders. I swear those are always the orders with issues lol I had one recently I took it due to low mileage. Or course it was an apartment and I ended up driving all around looking for his apt which ended up being way more mileage and headache smh