To be more clear: I don’t hate grinding in games in general SOMETIMES(this means not always and only sometimes it’s needed.) grinding is needed in a game for it to maintain a player base but some types of grinding is utterly terrible like: AFK Grinding Or grinding where you have to wait for hours for a chance to get an item. Or just any other type of long winded grind in general that you get basically nothing for. Movesets should always be interesting or have something unique to them. And games that are super unbalanced suck tbh games where you grind for years so you can one shot everything weaker than you also suck. Also the community kinda just sucks most of it is utterly absurdly bad. There are some really good people in the community though. I’m also not saying you cannot play or enjoy these games if you like them then play them I won’t stop you. Some slop games can be pretty fun at times after all.
undertale games dont need grind to be good an undertale game can make evrey charecter free, and as long as their fun to use, balanced, andd overall a good game, and has other stuff to keep the replayability going, the game will be very good.
I have LITERALLY experienced all of this especially the community part. Ive been in roblox undertale since like 2018-19 (cannot specifically remember) and it has literally gotten worse throughout time like what the hell is a "beter biffin and true pain battles reborn"
i agree with all your points to the point where i don’t tell anyone i am a part of this community because i don’t have any friends in this space and i don’t want any because i think most of them are weirdos. (also cause i don’t have discord which most of them use) i just make videos for fun and even now i don’t feel like making any more videos of these games because of the community who is filled with weirdos who never go outside, grind these games. idk maybe i just don’t get it because i’m not like obsessed with this stuff
Yeah i agree with your takes, especially with the youtubers making only showcases as well as the soul ops 'fangames'. When it comes to the content creation it is very lackluster, most of them don't even try and just show the thing when the person watching can just check that out themselfs. And for the soul ops games, i've played a lot of those and almost every single one had the same bosses and characters which isn't that bad, it's mostly the moveset of every character just being the same attacks just recolored or straight up just the same.
obviously Roblox undertale has low quality slop but you can’t really generalize the whole genre especially since most of the bad games don’t get over 100 players
Yeah it’s not the entire genre that sucks there is some really good undertale games that are fun. It’s a shame a lot of the fun games end up getting cancelled at some point though.
Eternal star & boss battles are one of the only good ones Edit: also There might be another Undertale tower defense game coming, that might be made by Brownie. (Eternal star dev)
ut fighting remastered is pretty fun and underrated, the creator has a real life though so i think they might not be able to update as much compared to their old game i will say that some of the characters need nerfs...
@@sirtopoftheworldegg in their discord server they’ve said some really heinous shit about a lot of minorities like some real racist and homophobic shit.
This is true many soul op games are just copies of the other and alot of the movesets in games are just the same and aren't unique for the game they created And another thing about undertale games on roblox is they steal models for some characters
well whit the soul shatters rework (that i hope it will come... i hope) the game showd be more balanced and have more moves for the characters (and new characters of corse)
So your saying you hate grinding games so you blame undertale games for having something that you hate in them which is kind of stupid. And also only bc players are toxic doesnt mean its mostly undertale games. And also the games are mostly in beta so saying that the movement is normal or that they dont have much special things is not really disappointing
No I have an issue with undertale games that have a ridiculous amount of grinding. Especially games where the main method to gain currency is by going afk or games where you have to wait 40 minutes for just a chance for something to spawn. Games need some sorta grind involved to keep players playing the game. But a LOT of undertale games have utterly ridiculous grinds for characters or other rewards depending on the type of game.
@@PlagueUTRBLX yes but still, you don't like a huge amount of grinding like me but that doesn't mean that most undertale games are bad because they have a lot of grinding. because that's how the game wants to be so let's not change that
@@lozadae1 someone should make a game like timeline collapse but it’s balanced, has grinds that are actually good and is owned by a good person and has a good community/staff
@@lozadae1 what about epic, if he just standing then for kill him, took 3-5 min. And we forgot about dt REWORKED, they became suck for bosses like red but it best for bosses like disbelief. Andddddddd last, FUCK WHEN GOOD UPDATE WITH BALANCE? WHEN WE CAN GET GOOD FUCK PING? OR FPS? i promise if Adrian don't leave from ulc then he make game, very balanced.
@@угу-в7е epic is still very mid and it doesn’t take that long and new dt is more skill based instead of a free 2nd life tho it’s worse tbh and Adrian pretty sure sucked
To be more clear:
I don’t hate grinding in games in general SOMETIMES(this means not always and only sometimes it’s needed.) grinding is needed in a game for it to maintain a player base but some types of grinding is utterly terrible like:
AFK Grinding
Or grinding where you have to wait for hours for a chance to get an item.
Or just any other type of long winded grind in general that you get basically nothing for.
Movesets should always be interesting or have something unique to them.
And games that are super unbalanced suck tbh
games where you grind for years so you can one shot everything weaker than you also suck.
Also the community kinda just sucks most of it is utterly absurdly bad.
There are some really good people in the community though.
I’m also not saying you cannot play or enjoy these games if you like them then play them I won’t stop you.
Some slop games can be pretty fun at times after all.
undertale games dont need grind to be good
an undertale game can make evrey charecter free, and as long as their fun to use, balanced, andd overall a good game, and has other stuff to keep the replayability going, the game will be very good.
@@anissans-zo1bc yeah
I have LITERALLY experienced all of this especially the community part. Ive been in roblox undertale since like 2018-19 (cannot specifically remember) and it has literally gotten worse throughout time
like what the hell is a "beter biffin and true pain battles reborn"
i agree with all your points to the point where i don’t tell anyone i am a part of this community because i don’t have any friends in this space and i don’t want any because i think most of them are weirdos. (also cause i don’t have discord which most of them use) i just make videos for fun and even now i don’t feel like making any more videos of these games because of the community who is filled with weirdos who never go outside, grind these games. idk maybe i just don’t get it because i’m not like obsessed with this stuff
It’s such a shame so many people in the community are so bad especially on discord (like in the UTC and UT: Fighting discord servers)
Sometimes i actually rarely find good people, but yeah mostly of which i find is edgy kids who shouts RACIST DUSTDUST every 5 seconds
Yeah i agree with your takes, especially with the youtubers making only showcases as well as the soul ops 'fangames'. When it comes to the content creation it is very lackluster, most of them don't even try and just show the thing when the person watching can just check that out themselfs. And for the soul ops games, i've played a lot of those and almost every single one had the same bosses and characters which isn't that bad, it's mostly the moveset of every character just being the same attacks just recolored or straight up just the same.
This why unwavering soul on top🗣️🗣️🗣️
(I’m playing, these are actual issues that should be improved)
As person play every undertale game in roblox for 2-4 year, I'm can agreed with you.
obviously Roblox undertale has low quality slop but you can’t really generalize the whole genre especially since most of the bad games don’t get over 100 players
Yeah it’s not the entire genre that sucks there is some really good undertale games that are fun.
It’s a shame a lot of the fun games end up getting cancelled at some point though.
Eternal star & boss battles are one of the only good ones
Edit: also There might be another Undertale tower defense game coming, that might be made by Brownie. (Eternal star dev)
ut fighting remastered is pretty fun and underrated, the creator has a real life though so i think they might not be able to update as much compared to their old game
i will say that some of the characters need nerfs...
@@sirtopoftheworldegg it’s a good game just the staff team are a #wikes they’ve said some horrid shit
@@PlagueUTRBLX damn... i did not no..........1.1.1.1111111 tell me more im intrested
@@PlagueUTRBLX i think my comment got shadowbanned, tell me more im curieos...
@@sirtopoftheworldegg in their discord server they’ve said some really heinous shit about a lot of minorities like some real racist and homophobic shit.
@@PlagueUTRBLX damn
why are the starts of the songs looped
@@Kot_Serega197 😅
I have absolutely no clue about any of this but I agree with you for what that's worth
This is true many soul op games are just copies of the other and alot of the movesets in games are just the same and aren't unique for the game they created
And another thing about undertale games on roblox is they steal models for some characters
I mean, some of the games are creative and are their own thing
well whit the soul shatters rework (that i hope it will come... i hope) the game showd be more balanced and have more moves for the characters (and new characters of corse)
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totally no differents
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True.
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The only good undertale game I found was undertale test place reborn and it still had some problems but it is relatively a solid game
Yeah that’s a good game
So your saying you hate grinding games so you blame undertale games for having something that you hate in them which is kind of stupid. And also only bc players are toxic doesnt mean its mostly undertale games. And also the games are mostly in beta so saying that the movement is normal or that they dont have much special things is not really disappointing
No I have an issue with undertale games that have a ridiculous amount of grinding.
Especially games where the main method to gain currency is by going afk or games where you have to wait 40 minutes for just a chance for something to spawn.
Games need some sorta grind involved to keep players playing the game.
But a LOT of undertale games have utterly ridiculous grinds for characters or other rewards depending on the type of game.
@@PlagueUTRBLX yes but still, you don't like a huge amount of grinding like me but that doesn't mean that most undertale games are bad because they have a lot of grinding. because that's how the game wants to be so let's not change that
Honestly undertale games are kinda repetitive like sans vs chara games and the only games i kinda like are soulshatters and AB and AB: A
The worst part is when a unique and good game comes out it's easily forgotten and dies
Tbh timeline collapse is still going because there’s nothing really like it there’s no real skillful love for love games
@@lozadae1 someone should make a game like timeline collapse but it’s balanced, has grinds that are actually good and is owned by a good person and has a good community/staff
@@PlagueUTRBLX tbh I might start learning coding for that
@@PlagueUTRBLX bro , I can't find video Showing rhe exposing demonika document . You can give link on it video?
@@угу-в7е th-cam.com/video/_JBZxfEKx-k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Dc-MIAOChF46wuFr
@@lozadae1 would love to see that. Make sure to include Xbox support if you do 🙏
I miss uttm games back then last reset was prime uttm game
Hey under fell papyrus, I temmie recomend you undertale tower defence ^^
I don’t think undertale tower defense has Xbox support unfortunately so I don’t think I can
@@PlagueUTRBLX oh okay
@@I_dont_know-1234-m9f alternate tower defense is a pretty good undertale Tower Defense game though I recommend that if you haven’t played it.
@@PlagueUTRBLX okay thanks!
Try Alternate Battlegrounds, might be a nice change of pace for ya
kinda unbalanced
I might check it out at some point depends if it has Xbox support or not.
@@MathewsEstiphanosmaybe are you right about x chara and Fridk
agreed
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ufs does not deserve to be shown in that, because none of what u said is true with it.
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again wrong.
I swear ulc us papyrus phase 2 in low win server is insane
Swear god, red.fresh.jack sans. Disbelief payrus and sans, last bread sans, bed time sans, they've BALANCED. LIKE UNABLE DODGE ATTACK
@@угу-в7еonly red and bad time are right
@@lozadae1 what about epic, if he just standing then for kill him, took 3-5 min.
And we forgot about dt REWORKED, they became suck for bosses like red but it best for bosses like disbelief.
Andddddddd last, FUCK WHEN GOOD UPDATE WITH BALANCE? WHEN WE CAN GET GOOD FUCK PING? OR FPS? i promise if Adrian don't leave from ulc then he make game, very balanced.
@@угу-в7е epic is still very mid and it doesn’t take that long and new dt is more skill based instead of a free 2nd life tho it’s worse tbh and Adrian pretty sure sucked
yo what about utmm games
Tbh I’m not a big fan of those games I just find them a bit boring but that’s my own preference
Why this in my recommended i don't like undertale
GET THIS GUY OUT OF HERE >:(
@@officialdietbsodaguyYEAH
@@alisinanucer YEAH!!!!
Congrats, you commented and now TH-cam will recommend you more undertale stuff, you can dislike the game but just so you know