Great video! I have a set of Bilstein 5100’s front and rear I’m waiting to install but saving up a bit of money for the Icon AAL. You said in one of the comments here that you gained 2” of lift with the AAL and I hear it often as well that some people get 1.5” which is what ICON says and some people say more. Why is that. I hear the same thing occasionally with the Bilstein 5100’s also. Some people say oh I got 2.5 or 2.75” of front lift with the Bilstein set up but Bilstein advertises 2” at max. Unless of course these people are replacing OEM springs with longer ones but regardless, how do you 2” in the back. I want to do 2” in front with factory coil and 1.5 in the back so it’s factory rake. I’m only running 265/75/16 so don’t want to install everything and come to find out I’ve got a 3/2 lift which wouldn’t look great. Hope that question makes sense.
3/2 lift would actually level your truck. I have Bilstein 5100 front and rear. My front still has factory coils and the strut is set to the top ring for 2” lift. My rear is currently a one inch block but I’m about to swap that for a 1.5 AAL pack because I also want a slight rake.
You know I’ve wondered the same. I know for a fact that based on the measurements I took prior to installation, they are accurate to what I’m running after. I believe the tire/wheel size plays a factor as well. I’m running a 285/70/17. The new rear shocks are bigger than the OEM setup also.
Hello! Here is my current setup. Tires - BF Goodrich KO2: 285/70/17 Wheels - Falcon “T2 - Matte Black: 17x9” (-12 offset) I’m also running a 1.25 spacer with great clearance.
Hey, great question! In this case I used 6 ton jack stands. 3 ton jack stands will be more than enough to support a Tacoma considering the truck has a curb weight of 3,915 pounds and 4,550 pounds as specified from Toyota. (Remember this depends on if your truck is stock or not. Be sure to factor in additional weight if you have a ton of external mods)
Other than cutting the center pin bolt, did you have to cut anything else? In some videos some people have to cut onenofbthe brackets holding the leaf springs. Didnt see that your truck had that issue. Ty
Great! I have put about 1500 miles on the new setup so far. Day and night difference from OEM and perfect for my setup preference. (Mainly highway miles with the occasional off-roading)
In this video, the front is at a stock height. After completing the rear setup, I gained 2 inches. After completing the front setup, I gained 3 inches, thus leveling out the truck. Rides great so far!
So the two differences are kind of day and night. If you’re looking to add a block, the only purpose it’s really serving is a quick lift method. Functionality would still be equivalent to stock performance with perhaps more wear and stress on the OEM parts over time. An add-a-leaf system would improve performance overall as well as adding some hight to your system. I’d recommend adding a new set of shocks with a leaf spring system to maximize the performance. The market ranges all over depending on what your trying to achieve with your build.
An add a leaf will increase the lift height and the weight carrying capacity over the stock leaf pack. Usually with a stock truck (no weight in the bed) add a leafs will cause a harsher ride over stock. At least that's been my experience. It's entirely possible this add a leaf along with the stock leaf pack did not suffer from a harsher ride. This is "the middle" in the cost option, anywhere from $150 to $500 bucks. A block will raise the rear end while keeping the stock ride and weight carrying capacity. Tall lift blocks over 3" can induce axle/spring rap and/or extra leverage on the stock spring pack. You would incur this on hard acceleration with lots of traction. Small lift block between 1" to 2" should have zero axle/spring wrap. This is the cheapest cost option, anywhere from $100 to $200 bucks. Your 3rd option is complete new rear spring pack. This is the best option for all around performance (articulation, weight carrying capacity, lift height and ride quality). It's usually the most expensive option, anywhere from $300 to $1,100 bucks. You really only want to do this option when you are 100% sure of your desired lift height and weight carrying capacity.
@@TheNewps I agree. I had 5100 struts replaced up front with 887 OME springs and 5100 springs in the rear. I'm not sure how much It raised the front but the rear was 2" lower. For a quick fix until I can either do an add a leaf or replace the leaf pack, I put a 2" block under the leaf springs to level the truck. It's still slightly lower than the front but at least it's not squatting anymore. I'm still trying to figure out which route to go as I have an ARE topper on the rear, I carry about 100lbs of tools and odds and end in the bed, and I'm thinking about getting a Decked Drawer system. So I'd have a constant load of 450-500lbs in the rear.
Rear of truck gained 2 inches. I completed the front coil-overs and UCA the following week, giving the truck 3 inches up front. It is pretty leveled after the complete installation and alignment.
@@miguelibarra6411 apologies for the late response! I did record the front setup install, however I lost some footage. I have to do some editing for the final upload.
That’s a great question! I have a 2019 TRD Sport 4x4. My truck did not have any shims on it from factory so I did not add any shims with this install. I purchased the truck at 27 miles. At this point I am exceeding 46k miles and this is the first time the rear of the truck has been modified. I’m wondering if I will need to add them now that I have the new system installed. It rides great so far. (Smooth with no vibrations)
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Great job! Excellent lighting and camera work. Much appreciated!
Super clear instructions. Well done
This video was very helpful. You are simply amazing
Thank you brother 🙏🏽
Either your are backwards of my, instalation is backwards there 3 dot on the leaf
Great video! I have a set of Bilstein 5100’s front and rear I’m waiting to install but saving up a bit of money for the Icon AAL. You said in one of the comments here that you gained 2” of lift with the AAL and I hear it often as well that some people get 1.5” which is what ICON says and some people say more. Why is that. I hear the same thing occasionally with the Bilstein 5100’s also. Some people say oh I got 2.5 or 2.75” of front lift with the Bilstein set up but Bilstein advertises 2” at max. Unless of course these people are replacing OEM springs with longer ones but regardless, how do you 2” in the back. I want to do 2” in front with factory coil and 1.5 in the back so it’s factory rake. I’m only running 265/75/16 so don’t want to install everything and come to find out I’ve got a 3/2 lift which wouldn’t look great. Hope that question makes sense.
3/2 lift would actually level your truck. I have Bilstein 5100 front and rear. My front still has factory coils and the strut is set to the top ring for 2” lift. My rear is currently a one inch block but I’m about to swap that for a 1.5 AAL pack because I also want a slight rake.
You know I’ve wondered the same. I know for a fact that based on the measurements I took prior to installation, they are accurate to what I’m running after. I believe the tire/wheel size plays a factor as well. I’m running a 285/70/17. The new rear shocks are bigger than the OEM setup also.
How’s the ride quality bro? I have one installed on 2023 Tacoma. A little stiffer than stock IMO. Bilstein 5100 front and rear
My 23 TRD Off Road needs the Add a Leaf
What is your tire and wheel setup sizes trying to get something close to what you have. Thanks for the video very helpful.
Hello! Here is my current setup.
Tires
- BF Goodrich KO2: 285/70/17
Wheels
- Falcon “T2 - Matte Black: 17x9” (-12 offset)
I’m also running a 1.25 spacer with great clearance.
Did you have a hard time installing the brake line bracket back at the end ?
Are 3 ton jack stands sufficient for this work ?
Hey, great question! In this case I used 6 ton jack stands. 3 ton jack stands will be more than enough to support a Tacoma considering the truck has a curb weight of 3,915 pounds and 4,550 pounds as specified from Toyota. (Remember this depends on if your truck is stock or not. Be sure to factor in additional weight if you have a ton of external mods)
@@Nicoma_TRD thank for your reply.
Other than cutting the center pin bolt, did you have to cut anything else? In some videos some people have to cut onenofbthe brackets holding the leaf springs. Didnt see that your truck had that issue. Ty
The pin and bracket housing is all welded together. All I had to do was grind the entire piece off and I was in the clear.
Great video! You have a new subscriber!
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If I keep 2 inch lift in the front and do the 1.5” AAL lift in the rear, will I have a rake?
Yes
similar to factory rake?
@@alex_rodriguez777 I did a 1.5” AAL back in march and it gave me a very very slight rake and I like how it turned out. I’m happy with it.
Will this setup work on my golf?
Yes 👍🏽
How do they ride?
Great! I have put about 1500 miles on the new setup so far. Day and night difference from OEM and perfect for my setup preference. (Mainly highway miles with the occasional off-roading)
What size tires are those?
Tires
- BF Goodrich KO2: 285/70/17
Wheels
- Falcon “T2 - Matte Black: 17x9” (-12 offset)
What what total lift hight?
After rear and front install
2 inch: rear / 3 inch: front
Is your front on a 2" lift?
In this video, the front is at a stock height. After completing the rear setup, I gained 2 inches. After completing the front setup, I gained 3 inches, thus leveling out the truck. Rides great so far!
Should have added sumo bump stops
Can I ask what is the difference between a add a leaf and a block. I am not sure kinda new to this but I want to lift my 2023 Tacoma.
So the two differences are kind of day and night.
If you’re looking to add a block, the only purpose it’s really serving is a quick lift method. Functionality would still be equivalent to stock performance with perhaps more wear and stress on the OEM parts over time.
An add-a-leaf system would improve performance overall as well as adding some hight to your system. I’d recommend adding a new set of shocks with a leaf spring system to maximize the performance. The market ranges all over depending on what your trying to achieve with your build.
An add a leaf will increase the lift height and the weight carrying capacity over the stock leaf pack. Usually with a stock truck (no weight in the bed) add a leafs will cause a harsher ride over stock. At least that's been my experience. It's entirely possible this add a leaf along with the stock leaf pack did not suffer from a harsher ride. This is "the middle" in the cost option, anywhere from $150 to $500 bucks.
A block will raise the rear end while keeping the stock ride and weight carrying capacity. Tall lift blocks over 3" can induce axle/spring rap and/or extra leverage on the stock spring pack. You would incur this on hard acceleration with lots of traction. Small lift block between 1" to 2" should have zero axle/spring wrap. This is the cheapest cost option, anywhere from $100 to $200 bucks.
Your 3rd option is complete new rear spring pack. This is the best option for all around performance (articulation, weight carrying capacity, lift height and ride quality). It's usually the most expensive option, anywhere from $300 to $1,100 bucks. You really only want to do this option when you are 100% sure of your desired lift height and weight carrying capacity.
@@TheNewps I agree. I had 5100 struts replaced up front with 887 OME springs and 5100 springs in the rear. I'm not sure how much It raised the front but the rear was 2" lower. For a quick fix until I can either do an add a leaf or replace the leaf pack, I put a 2" block under the leaf springs to level the truck. It's still slightly lower than the front but at least it's not squatting anymore.
I'm still trying to figure out which route to go as I have an ARE topper on the rear, I carry about 100lbs of tools and odds and end in the bed, and I'm thinking about getting a Decked Drawer system. So I'd have a constant load of 450-500lbs in the rear.
Are you at a 3 inch lift ? If so when adding the add a leaf did it make the truck level or you have a rake ?
Rear of truck gained 2 inches. I completed the front coil-overs and UCA the following week, giving the truck 3 inches up front. It is pretty leveled after the complete installation and alignment.
Did you make a video for the front ?
@@miguelibarra6411 apologies for the late response! I did record the front setup install, however I lost some footage. I have to do some editing for the final upload.
Did you add / replace the shims for the leaf pack to fix the new drive line angle?
That’s a great question! I have a 2019 TRD Sport 4x4.
My truck did not have any shims on it from factory so I did not add any shims with this install. I purchased the truck at 27 miles. At this point I am exceeding 46k miles and this is the first time the rear of the truck has been modified. I’m wondering if I will need to add them now that I have the new system installed. It rides great so far. (Smooth with no vibrations)
lol bro I just ordered the same setup
How did it come out?
7 months later. Just installed the exact setup too lol
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bushing, not bearing
That's wrong shocks for that truck that rubber boot supposed be on top
Not true. This setup is vehicle specific. The boot was designed to sit at the bottom of the shock.