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Do you think technology is overtaking us? Legendary investor Peter Thiel thinks the problem is the exact opposite: general stagnation.
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2:03 - Peter Thiel's opening statement (crypto & AI).
10:11 - Moving away from Silicon Valley.
11:47 - Equilibrium between centralization & decentralisation.
12:38 - Should we aim for more decentralization.
14:46 - Opinions on the EU.
16:18 - The future of China.
18:28 - The future of Democracy.
19:38 - Parliamentary Democracy and Freedom.
20:34 - Competency of the US Gov.
21:17 - What can states do to show that they're working.
21:58 - Technology not advancing fast enough.
23:49 - Why are you a conservative?
26:12 - Why aren't your tech companies as large as FB, APPL.
30:00 - Investment Philosophy.
32:28 - Opinions on Philanthropic Foundations.
34:49 - John D. Rockefeller comparison.
37:39 - Instincts vs Mathematical Business Plans.
40:20 - Who criticises your ideas apart from the media.
42:28 - Why is Silicon Valley a left-leaning place.
43:43 - Why did you support Trump?
50:38 - The future of Christianity & Should we live longer if we could.
Enjoy the interview :)
LEGEND👍
Thanks bro!
Great breakdown! Thanks.
Thanks
Nice! TY
Every time a hear Peter Thiel, I'm struck with his deep insight and wisdom about the world.
I feel like I've learned a lot by following Thiel on google alerts for almost two years now. The way his massive reach extends into everyday news continually blows me away over and over; every week there are mainstream stories with direct lines to Thiel. One day 5 out of 10 major news headline stories could directly be traced to Thiel.
Every time i watch Peter Thiel I'm more amazed than before. I used to think Elon Musk was the most amazing person of this generation. But now I'm leaning toward Peter Thiel. He is so thoughtful and avoids labels with such skill. He says exactly what he thinks and he lets you judge him without labels.
Thiel with his always evolving and up to date theories - thanks for sharing
I'm watching this video to hear Mr. Thiel's wisdom, not what the fuck the host thinks of Peter Thiel before every question. This seems to be how the host is asking his questions....I find it slightly manipulative and misleading.
Great that you documented this, Thiel is so smart!
Chris Valiente Thanks ;)
The host did his job of contradicting the contrarian, thank you for this amazing conversation. I might disagree with a few arguments made by Peter Thiel, but man, what a genius.
AI empowers collectivists. Crypto empowers individuals.
Thank you Peter Thiel for your insights. Highly valuable.
professor steve fullofhimself
Omg this interviewer is so triggered by his political alignment that he misses the opportunity to ask valuable questions about technology and business..
He has such a liberal elitist attitude it’s detestable.
And now you look at it and he's friends with Trump our current president and I'm now looking back at all of his interviews and I'm seeing the double speak is a constant most likely because of his political involvement.
Thanks, I'm glad to find your TH-cam station. Interesting and helpful.
amazing how much knowledge Peter posses its stunning
Who is interviewing who?
I love Peter a lot, he is smart guy, very exciting to listen to him.
Peter was brilliant as always, he's the ultimate definite optimist
A story well told.
I agree "the future is open"
As an American, I love how Thiel boosts about American culture and society and takes shots at the Europeans. Especially talking about how Europeans are scared to deploy capital and rather loose money in a savings account with negative interest rates. Thank you Peter
Talk starts at 1:40
god bless!
always appreciate
I think this interviewer wasn't quite the right choice... made this interview a little uncomfortable to watch. (lack of neutrality, apparently)
I agree. He didn't ask the best questions although he did a good job, he could have asked even more controversial questions and thought provoking questions.
He got seriously thrown when Thiel said eu Internet policy is more extreme than trump's wall and never recovered.
just the way he's slouching in his chair... what a contrast to Thiel...
I don't think anyone has ever heard the angle that the invisible, globalist, virtual border wall the EU is putting up to fight the internet is more limiting in freedom than Trump's wall (See through walls from Thiels acolyte Palmer Luckey of course). Exactly the reason I keep the tone tuned to Thiel.
Are you talking about invention of internet or implementation? 100 years ago saw tcp/ip implemented in 1983? Maybe pop culture is not inherently bad, it's just that we are so saturated in it and it does seem to dumb us down.
Thiel has classical progressive and “liberal” beliefs but liberals in 2018 have gone so far left that Thiels ideologies are now considered conservative. He’s mainly fiscally conservative. if you Research his beliefs you’ll he’s no hardcore republican. More innovators are going towards libertarianism and conservatism because new progressives are striving for borderline communism and it’s terrifying for growth.
Yes you nailed i and proved yourself a contrarian, because he is certainly much more than some label of "Republican". The most recent statements I can find is that he considers himself a political atheist which leads me to believe he's only using the Republican label to achieve long term insanely difficult problems that require more time than a 4 year political cycle.
oh god.... just let Peter talk
Too much money Too Few Seats
Intro music hilariously uncomfortable and inappropriate...
The Wisdom of Crowds is a book by James Surowiecki not Malcolm Gladwell. Excellent book BTW.
I've always shied away from interviewing due to my incompetence. But after watching this I reckon I could do it.
My advice to the interviewer when interviewing some of the stature of Peter Thiel. Wear a decent suit, lace up leather shoes, pressed shirt and tie, no hat or sunglasses, get a hair cut, wash and shave and sit up straight. That is all, carry on.
The lightning bulb occur when there's a sudden connection between 2 dots or more. This is when you develop a dedicated brain cell for it. You get excited, carried away by opportunities and then you tell a friend or someone close to you who you value his opinion, but they still don't 'see' it. Your ideas are your own new brain cells, don't expect others to get it.
Peter Thiel does a very good job here. Very interesting. But the interviewer takes way too much attention.. and doesn't make the best out of the moment. What's up with the thug-life-drug-addict posture in the chair. Be present, respectable and cater for a good interview with Peter Thiel. I feel this video is good, only because of Peter Thiel. Anyway, thanks for the video, good value.
Great point about the equality or balancing opportunities outside of mega cities. It requires more cultural openness and willingness from citizens of those cities to be apart of a tech world. GVTs & business leaders must put their efforts to develop peripheral areas. It'll take time to close the gap but it will be worth it.
Why does the interviewer running onto the stage like it's some tacky game show?
zeppelin1qaz
He used to host a 1970s game show - before they became tacky?
COME ON DOWN..... lol...What a f'n dork.
Interesting stuff thanks
Thiel was great. Interviewer was awful.
By 17:40, the guy in the baseball cap clearly decided to take over the interview. A really poor choice was made for him to ask the questions.
A beautiful, unabashed free-thinker (Peter Thiel, not the host)
Love it
Lol I love the intro they made before
22:40 "The cellphones, distracting us from our environment..." Camera pans to two dudes distracted and missing this epic talk
Interviewer was great. He simply pointed out excellent philosophical counterpoints, for example Europe’s approach to privacy and gpdr.
The onus is on the state to prove its own usefulness
Good interview, but interviewer talks to much
"These political labels are always more misleading than helpful but certainly what I would say in terms of Western Civilization since the enlightenment, it was a civilization in which every generation was better off than the generation that was before. That has been the way our societies have worked for at least 250 years and maybe longer. There is a certain way you can organize a society if it's progressing, if its growing, if the economy is growing 2, 3, 4 percent a year, you can solve a lot of problems; that's the way our parliamentary democracies work. The way they work is we have a growing pie and everybody agrees to divide up the growing pie; if the pie no longer grows then I can only gain something by taking something from you; it becomes this sort of zero sum game, it becomes more of a racket and then our whole system does not work very well. Our system only works with growth." -Thiel
John Hooker Couldn't be said better!!!
What a brilliant statement. What Peter impressed me is always his ability to see the big picture not restricted by the conformity to popular opinion.
the interviewer is a freak. From his freak type Jump to the stage and that cap that hides his face, no - I like Thiel a lot, but the character interviewing him is just too unbearable to watch - makes a person cringe!
Desiree Lourens Do any of you haters have anything substantive to say about this interviewer or the conversation, or do you only have sartorial advice??
Matt Markus - Not sure about who you're referring to as the haters - but I'm speaking subjectively - and I didn't watch the episode because of the reasons stated. Free World, Free Speech. Not a hater.
+Desiree Lourens please don’t have kids
Matt Markus he condescends to Peter and attempts to correct him on ideological differences. He talks too much. Just ask the questions and listen. We want to hear from Peter the man who has a proven track record on these issues. We don’t need to hear the pompous opinions of some academic with no real world experience armchair quarterbacking.
When the moderator questions Thiel’s Conservativeness, just look at the way Thiel sits in his chair versus, the most probably Liberal host,......lounges. Classic!!
Great talk, the intro music is a bit overblown!
Damn, I'm writing a book on future biotechnology, what I would give to be able to talk to Peter!
i know, but i still love it :)
I'm going to echo other comments that the interviewer is detracting from this amazing talk by Thiel with his non-wit.
The Wisdom Of Crowds is written by James Surowiecki not Malcom Galdwell
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Which do you prefer?
1. If you want to attent this event and hear this speaker, you have to sit in this somewhat comfortable chair that looks just like everyone elses chair set up in precise rows.
or
2. If you want to attend this event and hear this speaker, you have to sit on an uncomfortable seat/thing that looks somewhat different from the others.
29:23 Europeans upset at Thiel's truthful answer....lol!
Is the I interviewer high or something, his follow ups are unrelated and he's not a good interviewer for asking bad questions and for cutting off Peter
What's with the camera man panning in on the audience all the time?
cool video
The interviewer is being so disrespectful, why the hell does he feel like he needs to approve the points one of the world´s best investors is saying. Also take that disgusting hat off so that he can see your face.
we need the cad or any creative software more easy usable ui (user interface ) like how many architects are capable to using current cad sw to create plan for old aesthetic buildings easy the update tools(creative sw more easy usable)...
In the previous interview that I watched just a few minutes ago The quote was made of his he should never trust a business owner in a suit and tie yet this is the second interview and almost every single one of his interviews hasn't been a suit So what does this say?
Think real hard y'all .
What a beautiful discussion.
I think the interviewer did a wonderful job
Stimulating questions invoking very interesting and useful points.
Thanks for sharing this!
The interviewer's hat made him look like a doofus. Great comments from Thiel. I am no conservative but the guy has some real world insights.
This discussion has made me see a contradiction in the European EU model. The individual Europeans want the privacy from being known by business to sell to them it’s goods and services. At the same time they want an unelected political class to surround them with safety. Which means cameras in all public spaces everywhere, all the time. The social welfare that dictates how much support you can have, how much food, how much education, etc. but, they really fear GMO’s, and Advertising.
Peter Thiel point out the same fact that Sam Harris like to point out about our brain. Sam Harris: We know a lot about the periphery, and little or non about the essence of how own brain works.
We create lots of minor innovation in our society - like air-ship designer at about 1920 - and create no essential changes to switch the way how we keep operational those societies after we realize how minor are the effects of those Innovations. We did not started to experiment with the design of airplanes, we as global society, we still try to build better airships, which is not really new at all.
30:01 He is so correct. Just look at modern art that costs a lot or super expensive apartments in big cities.
These people have no good ideas at all.
Having ideas on what spend the money on is just as important as having money.
I don't understand... PT's joke at the end didn't get any laughs but I was dying... that was hilarious... I think people were just too flattened by his genius they weren't expecting it... GREAT conversation! Host was a little annoying but eh, I wouldn't have done any better... who the hell am I?
please keep the camera on thiel most of the time And little less motion .. thank you
"Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome on stage, b13"
I thought Peter Theil had some very balanced veiws
The interviewer completely lacks self awareness. He's an actual clown
47:47
40:17 holy shit
10:57 -- yaaawn..
Lol the joke about the ex-wife just flew over the audience's heads :D
0:56:25
Can someone tell me where I can learn to code online for free or at a very affordable price? Less than $100 a month
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I don’t think we have a democracy, we have an oligarchy. The oligarchy promotes its own, and they are not the best and brightest. COVID response is exhibit #1.
26:03
29:20 even Julian Assange is there to listen to him XD
What about "Computer Science"? 56:03 Obviously science in this case. I get the point, though.
computer science is more like computer engineering tbh and i have a CS degree and work as a SWE. the theory they teach you is nice but like 20% of the degree. most the stuff they teach you is how to build software , compilers and such. i guess it somewhat follows the scientific progress, but it’s not like we are uncovering the truths of the universe like in physics.
53:20 interesting comment, since earlier the majority votes to sell FB weren't followed (then, at least).
every politician has their own ai thats filter the best project based on all the dots connect to other politician ai to create better ....
it's my goal to live forever … so far, so good
The cameraman seems to use the attractive women in the audience as an aesthetic relief.
That epic fantasy muzak in the first few minutes is laughable.
Can someone punch this interviewer. He asks really bad questions, is so arrogant and I really doubt his intellectual ability. If this is what europe's academia is made of, no wonder they are sliding backwards.
This is exactly how politicians and journalists in europe behave. As a german I can confirm its horrible how locked in they are into their ideology
"Born: July 12, 1959 (age 59 years), New York City, New York, United States
Education: University of Cambridge, Columbia University, University of Pittsburgh, Regis High School"
Cambridge and Columbia are enough to bend the good into the bad.
47:57 When the camera cuts to the audience, you can see people reacting to the interviewer asking a bad political question.
It looks like the interviewer is loosing the audience.
Did he work out on this day? Seems to be caught mid-strut.
I think the Host did a great job pushing Peter to elaborate more clearly his ideas.
What is this interviewer's name? He is pompous and over-confident beyond belief -- Love it!
rolf, Steve Fuller, he is quite a guy, read his stuff
I love Thiel. My 3rd favorite entrepreneur(ish)
Elon Musk
Jack Ma
Peter Thiel
i really hope youre a bot
Jon Rita yeah my list changed
Elon Musk
Paul Graham
Larry Page
Who’s on your list
I totally agree that without economic growth, we are playing a zero sum game. This fact is wasted on those advocating for gold as a currency and abolishing central banks. You will take us back to the dark ages!.... the medieval times , post the fall of the Roman empire.
If you're new to crypto, check out Skycoin, which will be the next Bitcoin ( like how Facebook was the next Google)
Two American guys talking and European audience listening?
i saw jeffrey tucker
Death is the greatest filter...nobody would want to live forever, under the power of rulers from the past also living forever...Death enables change. To love is to let go and enabling others to have an opportunity...this is why love is so important when embraced. It frees ourselves from our egoist mind that searches for power (more time) instead of meaning (transcend and letting go)...Death enables change... Thiel is interesting always, but has some bias as we all have...good speech!
"Death enables change?" I don't buy it. Change enables change. Also, "to love is to let go" is really not making any sense to me at all. Maybe platitudes help you navigate this world, but don't use such a broad brush, my two cents.
Bullshit, it would be nice to have the option anyway.
That is actually a very good argument. I would add death is also an ultimate judge of wicked who evaded a just punishment for the crimes they commited.
@angrykulla Death is not necessary for evolution? Evolution could care less about any human dying. The problem with the argument is he is trying to insert evolution with dying and they really have nothing to do with one another. He uses intellectual aruments to help him make sense of dying, but it's not true. Evolution (the entire planet) has no business being tied up with this argument.
@angrykulla How so? Example please
One prophecy claims that the world will end at same time when the Jewish Mashiach's grandson dies. My guess is a combination of some kind of energy crisis and 'the generation who never knew Joseph'.
Why every thing have to come to religion. As an india i think we never think about what will happen with Hinduism it's real & lasted for 20k years and it will stay bcz its you us who can deside what we wants From life. Relax and enjoy the time in earth. No one is going to live for more Than 100 years....
Because of this thinking cristions (not all) but in good numbers they are converting indians ,africans and so on. But Hinduism never no need to do anything you want you in dont want u can go out still u will hindu. Flexible and thier is no Indian Hindu or foreigner Hindu u will be just Hindu more I know more superior Hindu u will be though u r not look or born in India. ✌
GREAT interview. The interviewer was pretty good, and I'm saying that as someone who also supports Trump etc.
it is very obvious that tech is going through plateau phase and are into playthings discovery mode rather then utility yesterday is aw horrific as to how virus's are sent and how sites can crash how even working big grids can crash so maybe what is needed is powerful antidote to that whoever has titanium secure foolproof shields are going to be big winners in that programs which nobody can break in not even in 'botnets' type... it was really very nasty to see it
the interviewer is trying to take jabs at thiel for having voted for trump and agreeing with some conservative ideas. no offense to anyone but he comes across like a manipulative liberal that wants everyone to agree with his ideas and only his ideology is right
7Nemar got a similar vibe.
No offense but Trump is a piece of shit. So Thiel still supports shit?
Not sure other politicians are all that different.
Silicon Valley in a nutshell. The irony is that Peter already addressed the point of thought policing in the valley.
@chris namaste. what makes him a piece of shit? is it because you dont agree with him?
Love or hate Thiel, his opinions are undeniably nuanced, deep, and original.
Easy to see in contrast with the other dude's "commentary" and counterpoints are fascile.
Just wants to hear himself talk, adds nothing, undoubtedly has accomplished nothing.
I actually think the interviewer is not as bad as a lot of people comment. They two seem to know each other very well. It is just how he sits on the chair really bothers me...especially at the later end of the video
I have too many ideas that have too little funding... We should talk. Top of my list: C'8 - Coordinate, a purely altruistic, free and available to all disaster aid coordination software app that will also facilitate direct, specific, immediate, zero overhead, 100% transparent aid donations in a game-changing way.
can you elaborate more-it seems very interesting or we can talk through email as well
Gautam Choudhary Yes, I'd be more than happy to. You can check out the C'8 facebook page here: facebook.com/C8coordinate where I have a mock-up of the app's principal page and I also have links to the 14 youtube videos I've created to date to describing the C'8 app functionality, giving examples of its use, etc as well. And here is my business email: smajor@stellarconsultingllc.com. I have a document describing C'8 functionality that lists other apps currently in existence for comparison that I can share as well. At this stage, I'm looking to find software developers/coders to create a partially functioning, open source demo version of C'8 that we'll be able to share with everyone and will use to create a Kickstarter campaign to fund the balance of the software development. Any participation / help on any level will be greatly appreciated. The need is great, and C'8 is a game-changer on a number of levels yet extremely simple and pure.
With C'8 for example, victim/survivors of a hurricane can create their C'8 profile, make a C'8 post with photos and videos showing their home's entire roof completely blown off, showing wet furniture, wet appliances, etc and requesting tarps and mosquito nets for example. Once this person learns that the local building supply store has re-opened and is selling 5Mx6M heavy duty tarps for x price for example, they will be able to add that to their posted request for aid where a link will be made with that store. Then someone on the other side of the planet that woke up to news of a disaster can do a quick, filtered search, find this post requesting aid, see the C'8 trust factors and with one click can make a donation directly to the store with no middle person. And when the tarp is paid off and all involved are notified, the tarp will likely be installed the same day and be able to post photos and videos of it all as well as to say thank you with great transparency. C'8 empowers acts of selfless giving to a specific family, for a specific purpose, immediately, with zero overhead and 100% transparency leaving givers with a more tangible connection than exists with most charitable giving today.
What is the problem with the current system (like $ aid through the Red Cross, etc). I'm asking this sincerely because I don't know, not in a confrontational way.
Many aid groups in general like the Red Cross have large overhead expenses, often exceeding 50% of donated funds with executives making over $500k salaries which discourages many would-be donors and when they cannot find a better alternative, often those well-intended aid gifts are left on the table unsent. Also with the large aid groups donated funds don't go directly to the need, but to the bank accounts generally making them better prepared for a future disaster, and so donations often have no direct impact on the specific disaster someone is desiring to aid. We never know where, when or on what our donations were spent. Also with many organizations, especially in the relative chaos of disasters, abuse of donated funds is the norm, not the exception. That's on the donations side. On the volunteer coordination side of the app, currently groups like the Red Cross and other volunteer and aid groups each have their own software app and/or are using ones like Palantir, Crisis Cleanup, etc which are only available to a small handful of affiliated groups, not for use by the rest of the world that could be helping and responding on one level or another, including the victims themselves having a tool both to report their own needs and that of others as well as to coordinate their efforts with the disaster response community as do volunteer groups. The Four C's of the disaster volunteerism and aid coordination world are Coordination, Communication, Collaboration & Cooperation and most existing apps are only in the hands of certain aid groups, ridiculously handicapping the four C's before even getting started by being exclusive. C'8 has no such restrictions and is meant to be a game-changing tool of the people that along with being available to all, facilitating direct aid donations, etc I believe will out perform every existing system by many orders of magnitude and empower giving of otherwise aid donations left on the table in a grand scale as well.
"Too Much Money and Too Few Ideas"
SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO REDISTRIBUTE SOME WEALTH OVER HERE.
Yea take your lazy bullshit somewhere else kid
Interviewer has Agenda