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This DSLR Ha Filter Can Improve YOUR Astrophotography
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2019
- Clip-in H-Alpha Filter for your DSLR
The Astronomik 12nm H-alpha filter is a great way to collect isolated wavelengths of light in hydrogen-alpha.
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This filter lets you capture astrophotography images under bright moonlight, and create captivating images with small stars in h-alpha. The image can later be added to existing full-color projects, or stand-alone is a dramatic deep-sky portrait in black and white.
A modified DSLR camera (full spectrum modification) will allow even more h-alpha signal to reach the sensor, but a stock camera can also benefit from a hydrogen-alpha filter.
In this video, I share a number of example images using a clip-in Hα filter on my Canon EOS Rebel T3i DSLR camera using camera lenses and telescopes.
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Nice video as always! Still using mine after years of use. Cheers Kurt
@AstroBackyard. I have a Canon T3i, but you said something abut the lenses. Will the lenses that came with my camera work. OO this sounds expensive. I can buy the filter if it's affordable and it does not break me. This looks interesting and I want to try this for sure.
Does this filter make sense in tandem with the EOS Ra? What impact will it have on the already H-alpha sensitive sensor?
@@RazomDoPeremohy In a nut shell, YES! It will work even better with the a Ra or modified camera. Ra's and modified cameras have the normal filter (which blocks some Ha) removed so it allows all visible light to pass - hence the improvement. The Ha filter blocks all of other visible light except Ha which has most of the detail. - Good Luck
Great one, Trevor! I bought one several years ago and haven’t yet used it. THAT is about to change! Very many thanks from Sydney.
These tutorials are invaluable to learn.
I really wish I found these videos before i got a EQ6R and a 6" Newt.
Thanks Trevor for giving us some tips ^^ Clear skies and space out !!
My 12nm H-Alpha EOS clip in filter has just arrived today. This is my first narrow-band filter, so really looking forward to getting imaging. Thanks for the great tips!
Super helpful, I just used the filter this morning for the first time, had to dip back into this video for some pointers. Thanks!!
I have the same T3i but mine is unmodded. Nice to see that I can still use this filter with my current DLSR especially when paired with my RASA!
I'm way down the rabbit hole with filter wheels, dedicated astro cameras, scope, motorized focus etc...and I always feel pangs of jealousy seeing a vid like this where you've really gone back to basics using a DSLR + clip it, and you can quickly adjust FoV by swapping lenses and get a killer widefield shot for a target like this, while I'm stuck cropped in unless I swap to a completely different scope. Keep it up, looks great!
I use a 6nm clip-in filter on my modified DSLR. Much easier to take test shots for frame and focus with no filter, or an L-Pro or CLS filter first, then switch to the Ha filter. great video Trevor.
Thanks Trevor. This answered alot of questions I had, being a DSLR astrophotographer.. Specifically, "what should my next purchase be?"
Here's why the filter still works fine with un-modified cameras.
The stock filter in un-modded cameras does block out some H-Alpha, but it's a broad-band filter.
From the data I've seen, it does take out about ~80% of the light at H-alpha, but that still lets through the remaining 20%.
Using this narrow-band filter on top will still isolate H-alpha. There's just less of it that gets to the sensor.
The difference between using this filter with a modded vs unmodded camera is that you'll be seeing ~100% of the H-alpha with the modded camera, compared to ~20% for the un-modded camera.
Basically, you'll just capture more H-alpha photons using this filter + astro mod, compared to this filter without astro-mod. You'll get brighter exposures with less significant noise.
If you've got an unmodded camera, you'll just need ~5x more integration time to reach similar H-alpha photon counts to the modded cameras.
So lets say I'm shooting an object at f2.8 ISO 1600 60s tracked. To obtain the same exposure as a modified camera I would need to shoot those same settings for 5 minutes right?
Hi Trevor. I am new to your channel and I think you do a great job. Many thanks for all the info. Your results are superb. I have been interested in astronomy for years and now that I have recently retired, I want to set myself up for not only deep sky imaging but also planetary imaging. Again, many thanks for your efforts. Paul M. New Zealand
Hello trevor. Nice video out there. Like the work you do.
Thanks Trevor. I own a Canon 6D and have been wondering how the heck I can get more Ha in my images without overexposing everything else with ridiculously long exposures. The added benefit of imaging from the city and full moon is the icing on the cake. Many thanks from a long time subscriber of yours.
Trevor, your video's are pure gold. Keep shooting and sharing this valuable info. I'll bring the popcorn. Hope to meet soon ~ your neighbor
Could you please do this kind of videos for Nikon mirrorless cameras? It would be super helpful. Thank you. Keep up the great videos.
Very informative Trevor! Fantastic video 😊
Happy I found this video. I'm interested in astro and have been wondering if the clip in filter was a stand alone option instead of modifying a sensor. Now I know! Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thanks Trevor, I use an unmodified Canon 80d, still saving up for good scope to start with and a good camera.
I love your channel so much!!! you are such a awesome person and i would love to hang with you and do some viewing one day😊 you inspire me.
Thanks for the video, considering buying it now to get into astrophotography
Hello Trevor!
I like very much your channel. I'm newbie in this and I would like to ask if I can use this filter in my stock Canon 700D?
Cheers.
I thought this clip was too specilised. But allowing to shoot during Moon nights makes me reconsider its usefulness !
Shot the North America Nebula with the Rokinon/Samyang 135 in Ha last night from suburban 5/6 skies . Very glad I listened to this advice! Very nice results. (PS. with my stock Canon EOS 250D) Very helpfull videos! Thank you
Thanks again.....its always informative.......summer is almost over hear in florida....80% humeidity will give way to clear sky's..it's been sense march...im back to the lerning curve...hope to have images this winter. Clear sky's
Awesome Trevor, you sold me on shooting narrowband. Can’t wait to try it out on NGC1499. Thanks!
Hi Trevor just by chance I saw your dslr ha clip in review after unsure what filter to use.I was using the skytech lpromax but wasn't 100% happy with it the ha filter looks like it ticks All the boxes as my canon dslr 600d is astro modified this filter makes complete sense. I have now put my order in for 1 thanks for the great video and I am looking forward to some amazing results.
Love your channel 👍 I currently use a cannon 4000d unmodified. Would you be able to give me some advice on the best optical tube for my goto mount for long exposures with wide fields of view? Thanks again.
Hello from Houston just ordered my H A filter. I want that RED PUNCH!! 2 take care!
Your music is always great in videos
With stock cameras it might be a sort of a workaround around the ir filter blocking a big portion of the ha. This can be used to take long exposures of ha alone and add it to an image to bring it back
Great as always 👍🇬🇧
Nice video and fantastic results, i am in the process of buying an Ha filter for my converted camera, i dont think Astronomic has a clip in for Fuji yet so i will get a regular circular filter. Do you have a good gem tripod head to recommend ? Thanks !
Helpful video. I might mod my new camera after the warranty expires. but for now I might try stacking H-A filtered shots with unfiltered color shots.
I just bought a full spectrum t3 i for Astro. Cant wait to start using it!!
Question though, do you have a video about capturing a landscape of say Orion winter circle and adjusting colour to make sure it still contains red but the rest is properly balanced?
just bought one. decided that instead of spending 3 to 4 times as much to upgrade from a 6D to an EOS R. I mainly shoot landscape but lots of photographers are starting to use these filters on their modded dslrs for epic winter shots even in bortle 4 skies!
Good overall Ha filter use video Trevor!
Would this work on full frame/mirrorless cameras? I have a Canon eos rp and looking to start some astrophotography. Love your channel as well, thanks for sharing all these superb videos.
Thanks for the awesome video. I'd love to see how you get your shots so flat, I don't see any vignetting in your images... what's your process? Despite having tried flat frames numerous times, they don't really work for me as advertised. I must be doing it wrong :)
Fantastic video Trevor, and your images looked incredible.
Would the 12Nm clip-in filter for a full frame canon camera work well with a 20 or 35mm lens when shooting parts of the Milky Way for more landscape type shots, or are these only worth using on deep sky images?
Great video!
Do you (or anyone else) know if this or any other filter will fit inside the standard Canon EOS R EF Adapter? I mean the on that comes with camera not the one with the built in filter mount.
G'day from Australia mate, been studying your videos and Dylan's as I've just started with astrophotography. I have a question with using a NB filter with a DSLR, if you change the camera mode to black and white when shooting with the filters do you get more data than shooting in color with the filters?
Hello Trevor, let me ask you a question: i already have a full spectrum dslr, what if i use the ha clip filter on that camera?
the benefits of that filter can be added at the full spectrum mode?
I mean are they compatible or it is not possible using them at the same time?
Thanks and keep going...you are doing a huge work on your channel.
greetings from Italy and clear skies.
Cool video as always. Trevor in this case you use a mod dslr which is non cooled. What is your subexposure duration usual?
Amazingly informative
Good day Trevor, what were your exposure settings? And which tracker were you using for those 135mm shots.
I'll go looking for the H-a filter for my full spectrum Sony A7S, hopefully it exists.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
You are the best my friend 👌🏻
It makes a huge difference. I use an STC Ha and Oiii clip in filter and the results are great. Like Trevor has shown in the past, you can create a colour image with an impressive white balance. Works great for images with Oiii like the veil nebula and dumbbell nebula but also great for every emission nebula I’ve tried. I use a full spectrum Nikon d7200 and D610 with lenses ranging from wide angle to an 8 inch SCT. From the city. Full moon in Montreal and still works great!
But those filters are understandably more expensive. But just Ha is great for black and white too! It was also very impressive before I had my cameras modified.
Thanks for the videos Trevor
Hi, can you recommend any clip-in filters for Nikon? I'd like to use one on my D7500 and I guess that this is similar enough to your D7200 that the same filters fit. I just can't find filters for Nikon. Seems like there are only such for Canon.
Johannes Grimm there is the stc Duo narrowband Filter for Nikon aps c cameras over at cyclopsoptics
@@colorado8809 thank you I'll look into them
I ordered mine directly from STC in Taiwan. Got them a few days later in Montréal. Astro multispectra and duo-narrowband.
@@volleysim I'm considering one of these - can you say if MS is good for widefield milkyway shots? I can't get away from light pollution much!
Convinced, will get one. One thing I’m not sure I got clearly is - non-modified DSLR and narrowband filter? I get its not as good as with mod dslr, but is it good enough?
3:12 unless you're adapting the lenses anyway, that way there's plenty of space between the lens and the filter, i.e. the mirrorless line from Canon.
Hi there, nice vids. I have a question, i use the same filter on a modded 1200d canon, however the color dominating is blue, how do you get rid off it? Preprocessing?
Thnk you
Hello, I'm fairly new to astrophotography and still learning my basics. I have a question. What I learned is that H alpha has the wavelength of 656nm. Then, what does it mean by 6nm filter and 12nm filter?
P.S. Your channel is a blessing. Learning new things every day. Keep up the fantastic work.
Trever I have the EOS RA, can you tell me what clip in filter for my body. I have the EF to RF adapter.
Hi Trevor i realy want to shoot with filters,
but i have the problem i cant find any that clip into my Canon5ds are there any out there i can use please
Nice. Is there something like this for the Sony mirrorless cameras?
I know this video is a bit older, but I hope you see my comment. It's in regards to the lenses you're using and the compositions. For those shots you're using as examples in this video, are they mostly shot with your 135mm? I've shot the Orion Nebula with my 55-250mm at 250mm, on my T2i, but it's still quite small in the frame. My brain isn't understanding how your shots appear as zoomed in as they are, unless you're cropping heavily.
In regards to the clip-in filter. After seeing this, it's definitely on my radar! I didn't realize these types of filters were still useful for non-modded DSLRs. Really cool stuff.
Looks awesome! I see the price for a Sony one is over $300, yall are killing me
By the way, which telescope did you use? Thanks
Hi, Thanks for the video.
QQ,
Do I need to take Flats with Ha Filter? Does it make sense?
Good video. Which filter would one use if you are hunting for faint asteroids and comets and you don't care about color namely you just want to find a previously undiscovered minor planet?
So I just took my T3i to a camera store to get modified for astrophotography. And I also bought a Roknion 135mm . But I noticed your pictures in this video with that set up were black and white. Will I get those beautiful color photos with that camera and lens???
I watch your vids, the ha filter, did you say it isolated hydrogen/oxygen? is so. are there other filters that isolate other chemical compounds. my thought is if that is true, is it possible to change filters while capturing images to enhance the colors for that chemical compound to get true contrast and natural colors in the final image? I do not take any photos yet, but i got the idea from an Astrum vid on how hubble takes pictures then are colored based on chemical compounds?
I have an Astronomik CLS clip-in filter. The only reason I don't use it as much as I would normally is that clip-ins require that I use mirror lock-up in my Canon 6D. That means there shutter has to be pressed to lock up the mirror before any exposures can be done. Any suggestions on getting around this? Do I need a better system for controlling the shutter remotely? Do you babysit your camera and manually press the shutter release for every exposure? It gets pretty tedious.
Trevor, what ISO and exposure settings do you recommend for the Ha filter? Mine just came in and I shoot tomorrow. I'll try to improve one of my previous targets, like the Horsehead Nebula. I was thinking ISO 3200 and 5 minute subs, do you agree?
Hi Trevor. Great video. Do you find you get better results using the T3i as opposed to your 60Da then? If so is that because a modified T3i actually lets through more Ha than the 60Da?
Yes, actually. When I'm shooting just Ha, the modded T3i pulls in more signal than the 60Da!
Did you bin the data while shooting and drizzeld it in DSS? Because it looks so clean, normally the red Channel looks extremly "noisy". I know its just because there are only 1/4 of all the pixels in the red channel
Do you need make any moderfication to the camera to use the clip in H-Alpha filter. Eg have mirror up etc.
Wait... The Ha clip actually improves astro images even if your camera still has the IR filter inside it? Is it worth investing in? (as a beginner with just a full frame and a telephoto lens)
That's true Trevor. But still this cannot beat a monochrome cooled camera with narrow band filter. I've recently switched from my DSLR (Canon 1300D) to CMOS cooled camera (ZWO ASI 1600MM) and oh boy what a game changer ! Much much much more detailed images. I have quite good sky in my backyard (about bortle 3) and i can image much fainter stuff with it. Expensive af, but it was all well worth it!
Trevor, did you use any clear glass to replace the missing ir/uv cut filter that you removed from the camera when you modded it? Or did you just take the ir/uv cut filter out and leave the bracket empty in there (aka. Naked sensor mod I presume) ? I have heard that if you don't add a piece of glass there then you will lose the ability to focus on infinity with most of the lenses, so I was just wondering on how you actually did the mod. Thank you in advance!
Marius.
If you do not mind, can I know what's the difference between 6nm or 12nm? I'm about to order new one h-alpha.
Hey man I was wondering what would happen if you use this filter with a wide angle lens and shoot a night landscape image like you would traditionally do with no filter. Would it work?
Im thinking of getting one to try for astro landscapes, like a lone tree in foreground with say barnards loop in h alpha behind it. I heard you need to do really long exposures tho so will have to use a tracker
Are there any for mirrowless systems?
I am considering getting a basic aps sensor mirrorless canon for astrophotography. There does not seem to be any clip in filters available except for Sony. Is this true or am I just looking in the wrong place. Thanks
can you provide a few list of Nebulas that i can shout with my 70-200isL? thanks
Can we add the HA frames to the RGB light frames together in 1 stack session ?
Hi,
To be able to capture Hydrogen Alpha color , We can not just install this filter in to our ordinary camera without Astro Mod , right?
Thanks for a very good video.
Hi, I mainly shoot milky way night scapws, but everyone seems to have modded cameras, which draw out reds, should I get a ha or optolong l pro, I have a stock canon 6d
Could you please do this video for fujifilm xt20 camera
Hi Trevor. I never saw you take photos of the Sun. I heard Ha filter can do some magic on solar photos but I think you would have to use some serious light reducing filter like Baader film on top of your lens/telescope as well. Do you have any experience in that?
Wondefull imagine! I would like see how to capture DSLR rgb with DSLR 12n in poseprocess~ 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Dude! Where do you get your music from???
Good vid
Can you get these for Sony or Nikon?
Really interesting! Just one question: do you stack these frames using calibration frames too? or just the lights? Thanks Trevor!
yes , it s exactly the same process than normal lights. you need calibration frames
I received some info from a member of the astronomy club I belong to and he said that adding this filter to an unmodified camera won't do much good. Anyone have an information on this? Now I'm really confused as to what path to take. Thanks Gerry D.
What model is this HA filter? And can it fit in a Canon T7?
Need advice from a expert. I'm in a bottle 7 would like to get Ilight pollution filter which one would you get? Light pollution sucks here. Would a uhc filter help? I know optlongmakes good filters also.
Is there an Astronomik HA filter for Nikon D50? This is an old camera that I have been using for wide field astrophotography. Now, I wanted to use it with an 80mm F/5 telescope with LPS filters/HA filters. Any suggestions are welcome
I know you mentioned that using this filter on an unmodified camera will also work. I mainly shot milky way landscape images. What I am looking for is a filter that will simulate what a astro modified camera will do. Will this filter do that? Thanks
Can this filter be used with a Canon DSLR body that has a mod to remove the IR filter?
Do you have to increase exposure time significantly when shooting HA with an unmodified dslr?
Do you make special white balance adjustments for shooting HA?
yes, only one pixel will be receiving signal out of the 4
I asummed as much. Was also thinking the onboard filter partially blocks out HA too. Would you say it's a 1 to 4 ratio to compensate on exposure?
@@Spivster46 pretty much. But you would just be adding the Ha on top of an already well exposed image to boost contrast. It won't be your main source of detail in an image
Just look at the bright side, Spivster46: you CAN increase exposure time up to the limits of acceptable noise. For that reason, btw, I switched to a cooled EOS 700Da by Primalucelab. And well, yes, I'm quite happy about it.
@@klausschneider8529 I just tried my H-Alpha 1.25" last night and yeah a cooled camera would make a difference. i have amp glow like crazy on my non-cooled dslr.
Is this this suitable alternative to actually getting a camera ha modified? I have a Sony a7iii and don't want to risk ruining it for everyday use but I do love astrophotography mainly. Oh, and just bought a Zenithstar 61 following your recommendation!
hello did you think a "canon EOS 2000d" is good for photograph with telescope
That's my next perchase
Trevor, have you tried using a clip in UV/IR filter on your modified cameras so you can use them for every day use? I have seen them from Astronomik and STC Optics. What are your thoughts?
Friend I've got a nikon z6 is there a equivalent filter
Should I get this same great Ha effect from my clip-in Skytech Tr-band filter?
Would a Sony 100-400mm lens be too much focal length for DSO photography, if I shot at 400mm?