The Sad Story of Wrestling's Secretly Queer Star | DARK SIDE OF THE RING

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  • In a culture that celebrates machismo and negative gay stereotypes, wrestling innovator Chris Kanyon kept his own sexuality a closely-guarded secret.
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  • @VICE-TV
    @VICE-TV  ปีที่แล้ว +45

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  • @ComicBookGuy420
    @ComicBookGuy420 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    As someone who is also Bipolar, his book was an eye opener
    RIP Chris

    • @CheezeTank
      @CheezeTank 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Chris Canyon wrote a book?

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CheezeTank Kanyon, and yeah, it's worth a look, but it goes dark too

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mrpotato4441
      Spoiler
      be warned, it starts the first time he tried to kill himself

  • @amartyaroy3754
    @amartyaroy3754 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    Being in a closet + Bipolar + Career downfall. Can't imagine how hard it must have been for him

    • @sunnylilme
      @sunnylilme ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I appreciate an empathetic comment. Folks are usually so ugly in comments. Thanks.

    • @cwstewartjr1973
      @cwstewartjr1973 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well treating your anus like a sex organ does something to your mind

    • @lilshaq32
      @lilshaq32 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@cwstewartjr1973wonder how you know that?🤔

    • @cwstewartjr1973
      @cwstewartjr1973 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lilshaq32 just look at how all these gays act.

    • @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361
      @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cwstewartjr1973American gays in the media aren’t representative of all. Do you shoot children when you’re unhappy yank?

  • @Moadar
    @Moadar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    i have seen Kanyon 3 times while working arena security. He seemed like one of the nicest most patient people with fans. One older lady came running up to him while he was exiting the arena. He had that stack able luggage. She accidentally knocked his stuff over and started apologizing profusely but he put his hand on her shoulder and said its ok with a big smile and got her laughing. Signed her stuff. Just seemed like a nice dude.

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He was a nice guy. My good friend from high school is Kanyon’s cousin. I always got the impression he was a good dude. I met him on Christmas one year. He was at my buddy’s house with that guy Glacier.

    • @shannfam9469
      @shannfam9469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U mean a nice gay

    • @dennismorneau9016
      @dennismorneau9016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shannfam9469 Grow up.

  • @linkvagar2336
    @linkvagar2336 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Under different circumstances he could have easily been a main event star. Such an underrated talent.

    • @makaveli087
      @makaveli087 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nowadays, he could've been *a top* in the *LBTQUFC* ~ Which *surely* must exist. Run by a woman called Dayn Black. They bought their competition (Starbucks) & did an *Inclusion* Angle that kicked off at this year's *Rainbow Rumble.* The current Champion is *a bottom* called *Gearbox Greg.* - World famous for Shis' *Transformative* Style in & outside of the ring.
      ok I'll stop. I'm *just* bad. Ain't no fixin' me. =[
      *RIP Kanyon*

  • @hellotube3
    @hellotube3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Kanyon was such an underrated wrestler, he was seriously good in the ring and had had great moves that were ahead of it’s time. He was 10 years to early

    • @jamalanderson3891
      @jamalanderson3891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Plenty of guys are athletically talented, but he wasn’t a a draw. See hardcore holly

    • @marcusmullings9261
      @marcusmullings9261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rko being one of them

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jamalanderson3891
      Funny, he and wrath vs Faces of fear was enough of a draw for WCW to not only make it a semi main event for a major ppv, but also keep them wrestling eachother at almost 6 months worth of shows
      He was enough of a draw for WCW to keep on tv for the better part of a decade, and he was enough of a draw to make him wcws go to guy for training celebrities to wrestle, not to mention all the entertainment ventures, movies, tv shows and Hollywood bs that he did for them
      Hardcore Holly by comparison was difficult, a bully, and famous for jumping guys that had no idea what was going on

  • @scott9294
    @scott9294 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Its a shame he wasn't here in his prime today, being gay isn't as big a deal as it was back then and he had the ability to go all the way to the top. Phenomenally talented in the ring and way ahead of his time, it sucks that his mental health defeated him.

    • @Filminformer1984
      @Filminformer1984 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Okay, but off the top of your head name 3 openly gay pro wrestlers.

    • @Goose707
      @Goose707 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Filminformer1984 Chris canyon,Darren young,pat Patterson

    • @Filminformer1984
      @Filminformer1984 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Goose707 I asked Scott92. He said “all the way to the top”.
      1) PatPatterson was Mid-card all his career, and only got an IC belt. He was an integral part of creative tho.
      2) Darren Young’s WWE career was so short it made Hornswoggle look like Kevin Nash.
      3) To date no openly gay Wrestler has ever reached a major milestone. Maybe Closeted or Bisexual? Who knows.

    • @Nug223
      @Nug223 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@Filminformer1984 EFFY,Anthony Bowens,darren

    • @ultimatejoshiewoshieness
      @ultimatejoshiewoshieness ปีที่แล้ว +13

      nah they would have exploited him. RUINED HIM. Chris Kanyon was a big butch dude & he looked tough & today's WWE would have turned him into a flamboyant fairy & make him wear nothing but rainbows & make him into a comedy character, AEW would turn him into SJW-bait by turning him into a political mascot & Impact would have treated him like Orlando Jordan. nuff said. no one would know what to do with Chris Kanyon today if they knew he was gay.

  • @LanDope
    @LanDope 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Long comment ahead. I remember in 2003 I went to my first tv taping, which was Smackdown. After the show, the wrestlers headed back to their rental cars which was still in the main parking lot at the old arena in town. A lot of us made our way blocked off by a rail to see them, a a few guys that I can remember like Brock Lesnar and Big Show just ignored the fans and walked on, some wrestlers stayed for a couple minutes and gave autographs like Shelton Benjamin with an annoyed Charlie Haas saying "Shelton let's goooo", but the 2 I remember the most and being the coolest were a Basic Thuganomics John Cena and Chris Kanyon. John Cena was walking down along the rail hyping the crowd and giving high fives including one to me. Chris Kanyon was doing something similar while yelling "WHO BETTER THAN KANYON?" He signed my poster too. 20 years later, I still think about how Cena and Kanyon treated the fans and interacted more with the fans than the rest of the wrestlers. Not to say the other's were rude or anything, just the impression they left were top notch. Thanks for one of the best wrestling memories of my life, Chris! You and John left 11 year old me in awe for a moment I will forever remember. RIP, Kanyon!

    • @larrywade166
      @larrywade166 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Awesome

  • @Jamesamong007
    @Jamesamong007 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The segement on Smackdown where he was dressed up as Boy George singing to Undertaker, i never knew till years later that was done to make fun of him for being gay. I regret laughing during that segement.

    • @DTA707
      @DTA707 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Damn... that's fucked up

    • @jpipolagunas
      @jpipolagunas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Some wrestlers and backstage producers then went on to say that his sexuality was never an issue or something that he was judged for. Like really?? So you made him dress as boy george and get squashed for no reason? Yeah right

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@jpipolagunashe went on Howard stern and WWE had Flair call in and tell him he didn’t have the talent to make it and that is why he was fired not cuz he was gay which is bullshit…….it was a year before he killed himself

  • @jpprophete1988
    @jpprophete1988 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I will never forget when booker t awarded Kanyon the US title during the invasion storyline.

  • @angelotero7729
    @angelotero7729 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Chris had a innovative move set and was a good wrestler very underrated

  • @luedanger561
    @luedanger561 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Great episode. I can't wait for season 4!

    • @salvatorecaravella365
      @salvatorecaravella365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just started reading his book. Detailed his life very well; inspiring yet sad story

  • @aerofool66
    @aerofool66 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    What side of the fence Chris sat on should have no effect on the ring performer he was. Even to this day, the Mortis character is one of my all time favorite wrestling gimmicks.

    • @gabeguzman9478
      @gabeguzman9478 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed and that messed him up mentally which destroyed himself and his career

    • @clinttorres2508
      @clinttorres2508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cmon...he was a mediocre talent

    • @aerofool66
      @aerofool66 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@clinttorres2508 he was a lot better than he was allowed to be. This is the case for many wrestlers. For example… Ricochet, Ali, Elias.. all phenomenal wrestlers, over as hell, who will never be allowed to reach their fullest.

    • @clinttorres2508
      @clinttorres2508 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aerofool66 ok, have no idea who those wrestlers are..I watched wrestling in the early 70s as a kid..it started in the circus n its a clown show once again, thanks to the internet n Vince mcmahon

    • @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361
      @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@clinttorres2508why are you even here old man

  • @heidiheisele8608
    @heidiheisele8608 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    It must've been so difficult for him, how sad

    • @FLIXD_JM199
      @FLIXD_JM199 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dunno if you know this but two thirds of the wrestlers have been on their to knees to Vince and pat. Roddy piper got his break from getting on his knees to pat Patterson. Wrestling is gay as hell aswell bro😂

    • @louisrobertson9215
      @louisrobertson9215 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'll live

    • @gbody2617
      @gbody2617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't care about him or anyone like him. 😜

    • @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361
      @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gbody2617don’t care for people with your level of intelligence recreating either 🤡

    • @sterlHAsilva
      @sterlHAsilva 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So difficult to not be himself?

  • @TheVampireEd
    @TheVampireEd ปีที่แล้ว +41

    One of the most underrated pro wrestlers to ever grace the ring. He deserved so much better.

  • @nick56677
    @nick56677 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    3:44 The piñata of porn story took me out. 😂😂and how that's the way he came out to Mitchell

  • @MattyIcecubes
    @MattyIcecubes ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Kanyon belongs in the HOF

    • @RIP19851
      @RIP19851 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Definitely

    • @gbody2617
      @gbody2617 ปีที่แล้ว

      For doing what? Being a f@9?

  • @dewilew2137
    @dewilew2137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This story is told so dramatically and I love it. And whoever this Mephistophelean looking guy is, I love him too. He looks like an actual Faustian nightmare. 😭

    • @JayJope
      @JayJope 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Father James Mitchell… have a look at him back in the day

  • @BoboMcBooboy
    @BoboMcBooboy ปีที่แล้ว +269

    I saw this whole episode, and the exact part this ends at, I started to wonder, and still can't help but wonder what part(s) of the story "The Sinister Minister" leaves out between the gay porn incident, and the "hour road trip" where Kanyon was apparently elbowing him in the face and saying how much he hated him... Seems he wants us to believe that came out of COMPLETE RANDOM NOWHERE... And there was absolutely nothing he did wrong himself...

    • @darnelllincoln6026
      @darnelllincoln6026 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      OR maybe its exactly as it seems. A completely unprovoked breakdown on Kanyon's part. The guy was clearly going through a lot.

    • @BoboMcBooboy
      @BoboMcBooboy ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@darnelllincoln6026 I never meant to say it couldn't have happen as explained... More that when I was watching this part back, I still can't help but wonder if/what he's leaving out... didn't put the "if" in op...
      Maybe it's nothing... But it seems or feels to me kanyon lost trust in him/had issues with him before this incident in the car, and now Mitchell is taking advantage of the fact only one guy can tell the story of their relationship now...
      But that's just my gut feeling of the guy...I have a hard time believing there isn't anything in the story in between these two parts... Maybe it was cut out for time, maybe he didn't talk about it because it's 6 months of nothing interesting between these incidents, idk.. I just get a scumbag feeling from the dude.

    • @nick56677
      @nick56677 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I'm starting to think that Mitchell was the one who told someone in WWE about Kanyons history and secret because Kanyon and Father James Mitchell were on bad terms during that period. The WWE are the biggest bullies. They were telling Kanyon if he came out of the closet, he would be destroyed and finished, hence the box acting as the closet and dressing like boy george symbolizing being gay.

    • @BoboMcBooboy
      @BoboMcBooboy ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@nick56677 that would make a lot of sense... Or at the very least, kanyon started to suspect Mitchell wasnt as up and up as he wants us to believe now... I just get this vibe from the dude he's leaving important steps along the way out...like he wants us to believe he couldn't have done anything different on his end...

    • @nick56677
      @nick56677 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @Mike "Big" Hawk The way he acts at 6:04 saying "That's a hell of a way to treat the only person who knows your secret" implying he would snitch him out if he pushed too far.

  • @jamaljames2578
    @jamaljames2578 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾

    • @prize5ighter
      @prize5ighter ปีที่แล้ว

      So you ain't a nomad like Drew Binsky who could've caught up from every part of the world?

  • @smidday15
    @smidday15 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how the subtitles at the start of this clip translated to 'who better than Kanye?' 😆

    • @foreverunsaved6661
      @foreverunsaved6661 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately for Kanyon, the fans said 'everybody' when he asked them -
      'Who's better than Kanyon'

  • @wills1483
    @wills1483 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Kanyon one of the best technical wrestlers ever.

  • @DrugzMunny
    @DrugzMunny ปีที่แล้ว +27

    He had the theatrics of the Undertaker, the size of Scott Hall, and a totally unique move set. It's a shame he didn't get a bigger push; but he was competing with Hogan / Sting / Goldberg etc. Gimmick-wise, I didn't like him as much without the Mortis gimmick, but still a good wrestler.
    I feel like almost no one gives Mortis enough respect. He could've been a top heel if not for the amount of competition around him.

    • @cinemasianx
      @cinemasianx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mortis was a great gimmick and Kanyon was a great wrestler, but he got overshadowed once the nWo started.

    • @2muchReality7ven
      @2muchReality7ven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its crazy. I was alive during that era and remember the wrestlers and specific pivotal moments I got to watch as they were airing. I will say from my childhood, the consensus from most fans are that the NWO lasted way too long. I remember Mortis gimmick but didnt know it was Kanyon until years later. @@cinemasianx

  • @dajuquaniamarchee
    @dajuquaniamarchee ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I watched this episode and it was completely sad! I wish he would've been able to get through it.

  • @TheMadTitanM5
    @TheMadTitanM5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I remember when he was Positively Kanyon and would kanyon cut anybody around randomly in wcw. What a legend. RIP.

    • @lupillosanchez6620
      @lupillosanchez6620 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was funny also hitting them with the book 😂😂

  • @The2010DC
    @The2010DC ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thought that was Bradshaw…. glad Chris got his light in this episode. He was awesome in in WWE/WCW

  • @nick56677
    @nick56677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Something about Father Mitchell is shady. I just dont believe Kanyon always snapped for no reason, there is always 2 sides to a story and sadly we will never know Kanyons side

  • @Frank_and_bean
    @Frank_and_bean ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who else had the subtitles say who else but Kanye

  • @Doomcustomfigs
    @Doomcustomfigs ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the most under appreciated guys in the game.

  • @WaldoBagelTopper
    @WaldoBagelTopper ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Chris Kanyon - one of the lesser discussed tragedies of pro wrestling.
    The irony is that he would have been an AMAZING pro wrestler to represent the gay community. In a genuine way. Remember, this was before wokeness. I understand his apprehensions. But he had so much to offer with his ideas of coming out.

    • @WaldoBagelTopper
      @WaldoBagelTopper ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Leon Wilcox I hear ya. But if not for support from the gay community, at least he could have been a great gay character.
      You say 20 years ago bigots wouldn’t allow it. But 20 years ago was 2003. Goldust was around at least 8 years before that. Granted Runnels wasn’t actually gay, but did goldust not become one of the most influential villains of that time, performance wise?

    • @juanorozco1971
      @juanorozco1971 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Leon Wilcox pat Patterson was gay

    • @jayhollows5729
      @jayhollows5729 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares about wokeness. It's not a real issue they just want representation

    • @jayhollows5729
      @jayhollows5729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@WaldoBagelTopper goldust wasn't gay and went out and said he was straight so it didn't last for long.

    • @charlottemarsh2202
      @charlottemarsh2202 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too much alphabet pandering in wrestling and, just about everything else these days. I don't give a crap who you're buggering but, I shouldn't have to be forced to hear about it every damn day and, cancelled for not praising you for it. Get over your groomer selves... 🙄🤮🤮

  • @JamesLee-sl4er
    @JamesLee-sl4er ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I swear when he sounds like Kanyon I cant stop lol😅😂

  • @Mr.Jtea3
    @Mr.Jtea3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ever see what John cena said about this guy on Howard stern ? I’m not one to have bad things to say about John but it wasn’t cool what he said and it comes from a guy who “portrays” such a nice guy. The things he said tho We’rent so nice.

    • @xliquidity3914
      @xliquidity3914 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I agree with you. Kanyon accused the WWE of firing him for being gay and the WWE sent John Cena (also Ric Flair) to The Howard Stern Show to say that Kanyon wasn't a good wrestler. For any wrestling fan back then, that was complete BS. Kanyon had a great move set and was better than most of the guys on the WWE's roster.

    • @bennett420316
      @bennett420316 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For Mr 5 moves (Cena) to blast a guy who invented so much offensively and sold better than anyone. Cena should be ashamed of himself

    • @themaddogofcrenshaw7367
      @themaddogofcrenshaw7367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@bennett420316 And Cena did a lot more with five moves than Kanyon did with 50 and that's not a knock on Kanyon. It doesn't matter how many moves you can do. You realize it isn't a coincidence that the biggest draws in wrestling and talent that made the most money didn't have 100 different wrestling moves?

    • @themaddogofcrenshaw7367
      @themaddogofcrenshaw7367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@xliquidity3914 This is the only issue I have cause it just comes off as disingenuous and fake. God rest the dead, but Kayon has been dead for over a decade. I'm 24 years old and have been watching wrestling my entire life. I literally have never heard anyone talk about Kanyon until the last four or five years or so. All these Kanyon "fans" crawl from under the wood work. Every Kanyon "fan" I've asked what made Kanyon so special, every single one of them said the exact same thing. "He had a cool moveset and he was agile for a big guy" and then they throw in "He had the best moveset in the games"
      Ricochet has cool moves too, doesn't mean he's a superstar to build a company around though.
      All I'm saying is, out of nowhere people just started making Kanyon out to be like he was the next big thing and a once in a generation talent that should've been pushed in to the main event when they know they didn't feel like that when he was alive

    • @bennett420316
      @bennett420316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@themaddogofcrenshaw7367 I'm talking about Cena saying Kanyon wasn't any good in the ring. CENA was a draw but couldn't wrestle at all

  • @heyarnold8023
    @heyarnold8023 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kanyon was underrated so many great ones left too soon man

  • @themachine8277
    @themachine8277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:45 poster of Paul Thtanley of Kith on the wall. Shmackamagob

  • @mrsain19
    @mrsain19 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sold and took bumps like no other. Kanyon would get you, and your moveset, all of the way over.

  • @OnlyBuilt4FinancialContracts
    @OnlyBuilt4FinancialContracts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kanyon was an Amazing Performer, one of the Best in Ring Technicians of All Time. Facts

  • @garymoisan5899
    @garymoisan5899 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My late lady friend Lillian trained Chris. He loved to play golf, he played with Lil. I was introduced to him, was a really nice person. I didn’t know either.

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come on, you can make up a better story than that.

    • @Ronnietapanga
      @Ronnietapanga 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop lyin!

    • @Ronnietapanga
      @Ronnietapanga 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@princeofcupspoc9073man fr tho! 😂😂😂

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys gotta start uploading an episode on TH-cam after a week or 2 of it premiere!
    you get money from the upload on youtupeople ppl will still go to hulu to watch your shows older episodes

    • @prize5ighter
      @prize5ighter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically yes 😭😭😭😭

    • @bennett420316
      @bennett420316 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not how TH-cam works 🙄

  • @pituparanoico
    @pituparanoico 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    where can i watch the entire episode? cheers

    • @bobleponge8750
      @bobleponge8750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dailymotion, they have the full episode there

  • @kentbeitel9966
    @kentbeitel9966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That dudes eyebrows were on point 👌😂🔥

  • @tsfromtx
    @tsfromtx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First time I remember seeing him he was Mortis and I've always kinda based my created characters off that a bit

  • @EDarien
    @EDarien ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does this just end like this? Is there more?

  • @purposepassionandlovetv863
    @purposepassionandlovetv863 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vice!! We need episodes on The Great Kabuki and Kevin Sullivan

  • @jaketheripper4u
    @jaketheripper4u ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kanyon was an AMAZING wrestler.

  • @JohnDoe-qu7gm
    @JohnDoe-qu7gm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He was great in the ring. Looked awesome as Mortis.

  • @Nyfancam01
    @Nyfancam01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Kanyon 😢 He was so awesome!!!!! He deserved so much more. LEGEND in my opinion. I wish so badly that things could have went differently for him AND Mike Awesome also. Heartbreaking. They both were fantastic

  • @stylechyld7780
    @stylechyld7780 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so far no story on rick rude and Mr. Perfect which is injustice, Not only great wrestlers but lives were cut short by tragedy.

  • @zeno-sama7688
    @zeno-sama7688 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    More I watch Dark Side of the Ring, My hatred and anger literally towards Vince Mcmahon. This man is the true definition of scumbag of human being for what he did with Chris Kanyon and also Owen Hart. Chris Kanyon is my HOF, bless u chris. You are the unreal talent and deserve more than this.

    • @marvingamez9057
      @marvingamez9057 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol he was in WCW so?? Vince was literally not his boss.

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 ปีที่แล้ว

      The iceberg is much deeper than that. Waiting for him to be buried, so people can tell the REAL stories of Vince's crimes. Covering up murders, bribery of federal officials, racketeering, ... the list goes on.

    • @ZairokPhoen
      @ZairokPhoen ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@marvingamez9057 Post WCW though Vince and WWE were his bosses and gave him bullshit without anything in return other than humiliation.

    • @gbody2617
      @gbody2617 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awe, boohoo! 😂
      F**k |98+q! 🤢🤮

    • @longbeachhippy694
      @longbeachhippy694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Statements like this need to go viral. #truth hurts

  • @munsterbraum2792
    @munsterbraum2792 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What undertaker did to him was just such a punk ass move.
    Knowing he was protected by the office.
    And then drunk broke ass ric flair selling his 2 cent opinon about anybody being anygood.

  • @chrisbuckley1785
    @chrisbuckley1785 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That dudes eyebrows are hilarious. 😂😂

  • @busa7
    @busa7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Finding out Undertaker stopped liking/caring about him and dropped him as a friend for being gay.
    Then absolutely try to kill him with a chairshot on a TV segment. Sad.

    • @rugpulla
      @rugpulla 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that’s why taker is the goat

    • @busa7
      @busa7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rugpulla Okay pedo

    • @babygirl50
      @babygirl50 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rugpullaHe not the goat he's a pos.

    • @Gameboy-Unboxings
      @Gameboy-Unboxings 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why do people just forget what undertaker did? Like everyone loves him. Seems like a pretty terrible person to me. Not like a wrestler of his status couldn't have easily said no to doing that. I'm sure he was all for it.

    • @acerimmer8338
      @acerimmer8338 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gameboy-Unboxings Certain guys just get a pass, like Undertaker and Ric Flair. It's rather sad.

  • @MediCali951
    @MediCali951 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I bet taker and the clique were some of the people that gave him the hardest time

    • @thetribalthief6330
      @thetribalthief6330 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      you mean the Klique members who are best friends with DDP, who happens to be a best friend of Kanyon?
      Taker was a bully to everybody....he probably didn't even know Kanyon was queer.

    • @jayhollows5729
      @jayhollows5729 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@thetribalthief6330 they had kanyon dress up as boy George and sing. I swear some of y'all don't pay attention to history or are purposefully obtuse

    • @thetribalthief6330
      @thetribalthief6330 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jayhollows5729 I bet you thought Chuck and Billy were actually gay too, didn't you?
      that's the problem with the IWC, they take anything they see on TV as if it's real, or if that's how the WWE feels about a certain subject or group of people. you won't see movie fans calling Clint Eastwood, Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino racists because they wrote racial and ethnic slurs for actors to use.

    • @roberthuman8091
      @roberthuman8091 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thetribalthief6330 Yeah Chuck and Billy was written to make fun of gay people. People have been talking about homophobia in the WWE for a long time it isn’t anything new.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thetribalthief6330 PLENTY of people have called out Tarantino for being racist including recently Bruce Lee's daughter.
      Being ignorant of a problem/controversy doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
      WWE/wrestling in general has long been criticized for its portrayal of minorities and women.

  • @joshuamoore4537
    @joshuamoore4537 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    If people were a lot more open-minded in the 1990s & Early 2000s; his career wouldn’t have had so many bumps. RIP to you Legend. 🏳️‍🌈

    • @truthiscensored
      @truthiscensored ปีที่แล้ว

      People were open minded back then. Only difference now is the Alphabet group constantly push their agenda down everyone throat and "cancel" any that don't agree.
      But the percentages is still the same. Having the loudest microphone doesn't mean the majority follow or agree with you.
      The Alphabet group simply have bigger microphones today. but the majority is boycotting companies that promote foolishness like Bud Light and Target...

    • @gbody2617
      @gbody2617 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂 sure closet man. This is what I think of the whole agenda - 🤢🤮.

    • @joshuamoore4537
      @joshuamoore4537 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gbody2617 Outdated people like you are holding society back old timer. I’m not afraid to be who I am. There is no “agenda” it’s called being a human being & having a heart. But you wouldn’t know that because you don’t have respect for anyone let alone yourself.

    • @bxh1549
      @bxh1549 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@gbody2617you can come out the closet it’s ok

    • @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361
      @browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gbody2617you definitely have a shakey relationship with your father 💀

  • @johnilbehonest
    @johnilbehonest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor man I'm falling apart right now with my mental health and I'm wat society calls normal because im straight and all. So I could not picture the pain he was in. But pain is pain

  • @78deathclutch
    @78deathclutch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid morbius and wrath were so cool to me

  • @slasher1087
    @slasher1087 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When his own friend says he wasn't fired for being gay, I tend to think Kanyon may have made stuff up.

    • @melissawright1979
      @melissawright1979 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think he was so scared of just being himself. Due to his background he expected the whole world to punish him for being gay. So any bad thing that happened to him he would have put down to him being gay

    • @jpipolagunas
      @jpipolagunas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Other factors may have been the reason he got fired, but no doubt he was judged and mistreated for his sexuality. Why would they make him dress as boy george and get squashed by the undertaker

  • @ianweir2115
    @ianweir2115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Raaaalphie! Whats up! I know this is about Chris, but I was just talkin to my son this week about the stones concert in Syracuse! Lol
    As far as Chris Klucsarits, i dont know much about his pro career, but I knew him growing up in Sunnyside, his whole family. Gentle Giant. So many stories i could share. So many times I would get into a fight in a bar and the rightvwhwn we square off, their eye would pop and they take off...Im like yeah beat it! I turn around and Chris was standing behind me! Ha! Ha! And I would say" he whats up bro, you think they were afraid me or you?😂 last I saw him was in a gas station in Queens i think in 2003, before imoved away from the hood. He wasnt in a good place. Lost alot of weight. He was good guy. RIP Chris.

  • @Costanza1459
    @Costanza1459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s a great chapter on Kanyon in the Young Bucks’ book 😢

  • @Ysoserious1
    @Ysoserious1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vince himself is not so secretly queer, he shoulda just came on outta the closet with that kiss my ass storyline

  • @JeremyPeeples
    @JeremyPeeples ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's pretty telling that even with all he put up, Mitchell still loved Kanyon enough to move on from everything but not out him.

  • @kdizzle901
    @kdizzle901 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His appearance on Howard Stern before he died was quite sad

  • @Biffo316
    @Biffo316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can't even begin to imagine what poor Kanyon was going through all those years. Mental health, Sexuality and the toxicity of the wrestling business. That's enough to be getting on with for anyone let alone someone who was terrified of being outed for fear of being mocked and not taken seriously by his peers. Imagine having to hide your feelings for the same sex because you're scared what other people think of you? 30 years ago wasn't that long ago but it was an entirely different time. The 80s and 90s especially here in Ireland where rhe catholic church ruled with an iron fist were quite progressive than previous decades but still quite conservative compared to today. In fact in 2023 we've gone too liberal/,progressive lol

  • @Veni_Mann23
    @Veni_Mann23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP Kanyon 🙏 💯❤

  • @TheMartinDuggan
    @TheMartinDuggan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bless you Chris 🙏🏻

  • @HappyBanjo-oc3pc
    @HappyBanjo-oc3pc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris Kanyon was an underrated wrestler.

  • @deanruthlessrecords
    @deanruthlessrecords 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved him when he came in a few times on The Sirius Years of The Howard Stern Show.
    He was intelligent and funny.
    So sad.
    His mental health & Catholic Upbringing basically killed him.

  • @Gabaonmegoul718
    @Gabaonmegoul718 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you wee wee wanna hurt me. Vicious chair shots by the undertaker.

  • @makaveli087
    @makaveli087 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sad story but he was talented enough. Surely better than the entire roster of current gen Pro Wrestlers. My only memory of Kanyon is obviously when he would hit the *"WHO BETTER THAN KANYON?!* & the crowd would erupt *"ANYBODY!"* (or "EVERYBODY!!") which wasn't JUST hilarious but that's a straight up Achievement Unlocked Moment. *Heel Crowd Control.* Go out to a public venue & try to get 5 or more people you don't know to say something that's only relevant to you - No Sneezing. This type of stuff isn't singing Christmas songs or clapping at the end of a movie in a theatre - It's Social Engineering. A skill that is non-existent nowadays - Yet we ponder why the Heels don't get any proper heat anymore & the Faces rarely become Household names like when Men were Men in the WWF.

  • @jeffhallii7907
    @jeffhallii7907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Leading power brokers”

  • @christophermallory3400
    @christophermallory3400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved Kris, he was very innovative. He did moves I'd never seen before , as a teenager I was like damn, dude raw

  • @zitofan4life
    @zitofan4life 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was so good in the ring.. i always enjoyed his matches but wish his gimmicks were better

  • @BitestheStuff
    @BitestheStuff ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's a shame he couldn't survive his issues. He would have been fully accepted and celebrated in today's locker room.

    • @cityhawk
      @cityhawk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That maybe true, but his demons going back to his days when he was told by a priest that his homosexuality was evil and wrong, likely would still have kept him in the closet. He would be more accepted today, but the past can be very difficult to run away from. Would he have accepted himself as a gay man? Who knows, but I’d lean towards no.

  • @wishes_._
    @wishes_._ ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought it was diesel in the thumbnail

  • @briansickboy
    @briansickboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man what a sad story. Kanyon was one of my favorites

  • @RealKame
    @RealKame ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rip chris

  • @IAEMThatIAEM
    @IAEMThatIAEM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my favorite character on wcw revenge was Mortis
    .. which is kanyon

  • @elmaquiavelico5709
    @elmaquiavelico5709 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Undertaker did him dirty.

    • @ryangregoire6599
      @ryangregoire6599 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Redhotshawntexas What happened?

    • @bloodangel13
      @bloodangel13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ryangregoire6599 Undertaker incensed that Kanyon came out of the box dressed like Boy George with instructions from McMahon to "Dance like a f****t" hit Kanyon with a chair, the only difference is rather than the flat side of the chair he hit him with the frame of the chair.

    • @heidiheisele8608
      @heidiheisele8608 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree, lost some respect for Taker doing that

    • @Radentstwo
      @Radentstwo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Undertaker isn't a locker room leader after all, is he?

    • @ryangregoire6599
      @ryangregoire6599 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Radentstwo Based off of one incident?

  • @cvblaylock
    @cvblaylock ปีที่แล้ว

    Canyon and Mortis ruled. I hate that he felt like he couldn’t be himself and just be respected for his work.

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rest in peace Chris Kanyon. You’re are deeply missed.

  • @yeliabdoowyllohx
    @yeliabdoowyllohx ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i thought this episode already aired.

  • @kevinmeeks5169
    @kevinmeeks5169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First three guys i think of when I think of wcw is ddp, jericho and kanyon

  • @societysbasement5369
    @societysbasement5369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is anyone able to watch this after NWA samhain without squinting the whole time? 🤔

  • @bajorekjon
    @bajorekjon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:58 Chris getting stomped out by 2 old ladies 😂

  • @TheManOfLove
    @TheManOfLove 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mortis has the best finisher

  • @TommyRosati
    @TommyRosati ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny how the acceptance of words change over time. When I was growing up in the 80s, the word "queer" was derogatory & demeaning. Today, it's ok.

    • @jamesdaly1111
      @jamesdaly1111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's being forced on the same people it was once shouted at in anger, whether they want it or not.

  • @scottashe984
    @scottashe984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah I thought it was gonna be about Warrior too..

  • @NickPR87
    @NickPR87 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's a damn shame his sexuality made him so troubled, to the point ending his life seemed like his best alternative.

  • @kevin084life
    @kevin084life ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:48 Let me see if I can what? 😂

  • @DollaBillz215
    @DollaBillz215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His aunt was my 4th grade teacher

  • @tycobb2580
    @tycobb2580 ปีที่แล้ว

    04:00 wow complex scheme

  • @AkronJosh
    @AkronJosh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So this guy sinister minister seems to hint at the fact that he outed chris for destorying his car? Sure it was fucked up forcjris to f up his car BUT if he did out him thats other worldly evil 😈 🤔 damn

  • @Ish4MyIggans
    @Ish4MyIggans ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trained by a woman is why his wrestling style stood out. Probably was a gigglo of Moolahs.

  • @protochris
    @protochris 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot more to this story for sure. Being gay was a symptom but not the main issue.

  • @agthaog1986
    @agthaog1986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im not gonna say i knew he was gay...but i definietly always felt it was something different about dude. the way he moved, the lisp....but it was more then that even u could just tell he wasnt the normal "tough" guy

  • @troylandzerep8045
    @troylandzerep8045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who's better than Kanye..
    Kanyon... Chris Kanyon

  • @eatyagrandmasgrapes3858
    @eatyagrandmasgrapes3858 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish he got help he would’ve been hated but he a really good technical wrestler one of the best

  • @LobsterRoc
    @LobsterRoc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jimmy King

  • @ultimatejoshiewoshieness
    @ultimatejoshiewoshieness ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the thing is all the boys knew before Kanyon ever said anything.

  • @jstone6030
    @jstone6030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why was he mad?

  • @Kudeghraw
    @Kudeghraw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In hindsight I don't think it would have mattered at all. His innovation in the ring was always entertaining because he always seemed to be in the fight. In the 90s people didn't care about it as much as you would think because the community wasn't trying to force their agendas on others. They just coexisted and it worked just fine.