The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
Used Shimano , Penn , daiwa , st croix and so many other rods throughout 32 years of fishing. All these other companies warranties are such a hassle to get a rod replaced , the rods are only covered for a limited amount of time , and some of the fees are ridiculous. Plus most of their customer service is nightmare My favorite rod company is bull bay rods Their customer service is top notch , lifetime warranty is amazing. Plus they are based right here in Lakeland Florida Their warranty is great because you don't need proof of purchase to get your rod repaired or replaced. As long as you keep the pieces of the rod , you can get it fixed / replaced. If it's a manufacturing issue it's free. If it's an user error depending on model the fee is only $40 or $60 for a new rod.
@@ReelinTension yeah , I got tired of the bs with all these companies. Switched and no longer those issues. Ive only had 2 issues with bull bay. One was fixed in mins , the other was fixed in less then 24 hours. Both free too I have all their rods but the banshee is definitely my favorite 7'10 6-12. Have it paired with a 3000 sustain. But I just got a few tac x rods and they may take the #1 spot. But wanna use them a few more times
@@aaronhiggs mine finally got it once she went on a few fishing charters and seen first hand you can't use light rods against mangroves or docks. And that's one example.
I've fished around 40 different spinning rods that are advertised as being inshore rods. They ranged from $75 to $400. The rod that I always come back to is the Falcon XG 7' medium action rod. The rod is a nice balance of lightweight, tough, decent backbone, good ergonomics, nice handle length and for the price, a good all around stick. My TFO and Shimano rods are lighter, but considerably more fragile and expensive if something goes wrong. I have a couple of Penn rods that are decent, but the action doesn't load up as well on casts.
This is Captain Wayne Conn from Reward Fishing Fleet downtown Miami. After 50 years of fishing professionally offshore I’m getting back to my inshore fishing roots. I enjoy your informative videos. I’ve recently been buying (and returning) quite a few inshore rods. One was a Fitzgerald spinning rod that you brought to my attention. Unfortunately the one I got has this tiny guide inside the first guide. I have built rods since the 60’s and spinners have large first guides for a reason. Seems this would restrict free flowing line off the spool, and have to reduce casting efficiency. The rod otherwise seems really nice, and easily worth the cost. My thoughts are that it is an attempt to create and market something new, yet not accomplishing much. What’s your take?
@@flatsclasscharters thanks for the knowledge captain always learning from you, simple question different between teramar PX and teramar xx médium and médium heavy action?
@FlatsClass/TH-cam I have a PENN Pursuit IV Medium-Heavy Rod 7ft paired with a PENN Pursuit IV 6000 Reel, I haven't used it yet because I am not sure if I should place a 20 pound braided line on it or something (lighter or heavier), what's your suggestion? I will be using this inshore at piers around my city to target groupers, snappers and maybe some mackerel action.
Choice of rod becomes tricky when traveling. Far fewer inshore rods are available in two-piece configurations. A standard SUV can only haul one piece rods with an overhead rack. ( Hanging them out the window isn't an option on the Interstate. ) The length and action suggestions make sense. Do I *really* need a new rod now? No ... but it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the Fall.
"Surf fisherman" is a far more common classification in my part of the country, and is actually a fairly respectable name I think. Land Angler made me chuckle as well.
So I bought a Vanford C3000XG this week and tonight I ordered the Teramar XX TXESX70M going to use Trilene or Ande 10b mono to 8lb v2 superslick in moonshine to 20lb inshore seagaur leader. Did I make a pairing mistake or am I good?. Planning on throwing paddle tails, 17mr's and and spoons with this setup.
Great tips for rod length, actions and powers for inshore fishing! As an experienced inshore and nearshore fisherman, I have completely moved away from buying or ordering name brand store bought rods, not that I don't think they have decent quality as I have owned and still own Shimano and Daiwa rods mainly for nearshore grouper fishing, but if you can afford it or befriend a custom rod builder like I have, going the custom rod route is so much better, I use MHX rod blanks which have a transferable lifetime warranty which you can get in many different prices, lengths, actions, and powers, and then you can get the exact guides and components you want, which all said and done for the rods I have built would cost 2 to 3 times as much trying to find something similar that a "name brand" builds which you can never find exactly the way I have custom rods built from a "name brand" rod company. I have custom rods from 6'6" for my daughter, and rods in all different lengths from 7' to 7'6" in different actions and powers for different applications for myself, similar to the applications what Captain CA talks about in this video. I'm telling you, if you can afford it go the custom rod route and get exactly what you want! Learn how
@FlatsClass/TH-cam great video, very informative. Love Shimano rods. HOWEVER, your background in the video had me so distracted I almost had to watch twice to get your message (joking). The reason I say this is I am very impressed with your boat shed/cover. Would you be able to tell me where you procured it? I am in desperate need of a boat shed/cover where I am in Texas and any assistance you could provide would be appreciated.
Tell me I'm wrong, anyone else keep telling non fishing people that you need a rod/reel for every lure lol out there to cover all your lures you keep in your tackle box. I just need rods and maybe reels to match for the lures I have. But have started to go back to my roots of finnesse fishing being rods with 3000 size reels for medium to medium light rods 10-15 lb braid for 1/4oz maybe 3/8oz max because that's all I used growing up and learned how to fish for large fish on that style fishing and love it. My largest rod/reel I have is a 12ft surf rod with a penn warfare with 30lb lb and 50lb leader. And everything else max is a medium heavy for throwing small to medium pin fish and that's it.
Awesome Information, Awesome Channel, Awesome Education, CA! I fish Sebastian Inlet and the beaches, can I get from you the three rods that would be best for big Tarpon, Big Reds & Snook, as well as a 7'0 rod that would be awesome for walk the dog smaller topwater up to 1&1/2 oz. It may be what you have mentioned here but wanted your advice as well as the model numbers of each rod. Thanks,
From what I find online, the Teramar XX med/lite for finesse baits does not have a fully corked handle, which is what I prefer. What rod would you recommend with a fully corked handle?
I got one of the Shimano GLF inshore rods, medium 7', fast action and I loooove it. It's my go to for and shrimp imitation lure I have, salt strong power prawn, vudu shrimp, zman prerigged shrimp. I loved it so much I got a 7' Shimano casting rod, medium heavy for my home poured 5" swimbaits. It's 👌
Distance matters if you fish a shore thats really shallow really far out like I do. I need a 9 foot rod, I fish the shores that no one else does and I catch fish there too!
Capt, this was super informative! Thank you.. BYW based on your description of the Angler that you let use the 7-6 Teramar….Dayum I will be sure to bring 2 good eyes next time so I get the fancy rods!! 😂😂
Hey buddy, I understand you fish from a boat and your rods are generally one piece and almost all 7'5 feet fast action rods. I fish only from shore and my rods are generally fast action and range from 8 to 14 feet depending on the condition of the bank. The sizes of the reels I use are between 2000 and 4500 and for long distance casting is 8000. Yes, I agree with your ideas. I never limit my arsenal by saying that one or two pieces of equipment will do the same job for me. Nobody can say that "I am a professional angler" (you cannot become a professional in hunting or fishing, every experience teaches something and a learner is not a professional but only can be an apprentice) and nobody can say a few fishing poles are enough for fishing. I have been fishing for 50 years and I am still not a professional. Greetings from Turkiye and I wish you many trophy fishing.
I am getting into inshore fishing here in northern Florida and i was wondering what size spinning reel you would recommend for a 7' medium/medium heavy, fast rod? I have been looking at the Penn Clash II 3000-4000 or the Quantum Cabo 30-40. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I completely understand the sponsor staff relationship and have been and still am a dedicated Shimano user (reels exclusively but no longer rods). What you are privileged to that we, the end users are not is discounts or free rods when they fail, and they will fail as do all rods. Where you could help is letting Shimano know they are severely lacking in the customer service area. We pay good money for a rod that breaks as a result of damage incurred during shipping to/or at the retailer and is covered under warranty but the cost is on the customer to return the entire rod to Shimano. So not only are you covering the expense of the initial purchase but also covering shipping back to Shimano. This makes Shimano rods much less appealing and competitive with other rods. This is exactly why I moved away from G-Loomis. I apologize for the lengthy reply, but Shimano will not listen to their customers (and I am not alone) maybe they will listen to their Prostaff. Very informative video as usual.
Just like Aaron check out bull bay rods. I used Shimano, daiwa , Penn , st croix , and so on. I have been using them now 6 years now and are by far the best rods imo. The customer service from bull bay is top notch , lifetime warranty , and based right here in Lakeland Florida. If anything manufacturing wise happens to the rod they will fix or replace it for free. If something happens to your rod outside of a manufacturer defect. ( I.e. user error slam door on rod , dog eats it , stock rod into fan and so on ) depending on model it's either $40 or $60 for it to get fixed or replaced
Shimano used to have a lifetime warranty on rods, but not anymore as is mentioned here. One way to help with warranty is to establish a good relationship with your local tackle store rather than buying everything online. I had two Shimano rods replaced instantly off the shelf by the owner. I’ve owned probably a dozen Shimano rods (now mostly offshore) and my overall experience has been positive. My best setup last year was a 6000 gosa on a 7’ med light trevala (multiple 30 lb kingfish and a 40 lb cobia plus gaffer dolphin). I think they offer good value for the performance you get.
The problem with lifetime guarantees is that you end up subsidizing the guy who is drunk and backs his trailer over his rod canon, etc... If there was something wrong with the rod, and you paid premium dollar for it you should get replacements. But whether it is fishing or some other activity, people have also learned how to abuse gear in terms of what it was designed for, and then put that cost on the rest of us.
@@AliexFolgueira I'm not a daiwa fan but I'm a big time Shimano fan and I found that bg and up are smoother then Shimano actually they are to smooth for my liking 😂 Maybe a defective BG you felt ? I know I had the Fuego Lt , ballistic Lt , back bay lt and excist Lt and all soooo smooth but the frames flex so damn bad. Sold them and just continued to use Shimano and still am. 18 years and counting
I’m not sure if any of this applies to strippers cause I’m so used to slinging big poppers, swim baits, and bucktails often over 1.5 ounces for big stripes
That is not the best inshore rod - not even close. As a matter of fact, Shimano would rather you invest in the Loomis rods since they own that too. Maybe the Inshore NRX or NRX+ rods they can claim are up there with the best.
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
Great review C. a. of the rods we need to use with various baits.
Used Shimano , Penn , daiwa , st croix and so many other rods throughout 32 years of fishing. All these other companies warranties are such a hassle to get a rod replaced , the rods are only covered for a limited amount of time , and some of the fees are ridiculous. Plus most of their customer service is nightmare
My favorite rod company is bull bay rods
Their customer service is top notch , lifetime warranty is amazing.
Plus they are based right here in Lakeland Florida
Their warranty is great because you don't need proof of purchase to get your rod repaired or replaced. As long as you keep the pieces of the rod , you can get it fixed / replaced.
If it's a manufacturing issue it's free. If it's an user error depending on model the fee is only $40 or $60 for a new rod.
This is the same reason I spend the money on these as well. I am a big fan of the bulls bay banshee
@@ReelinTension yeah , I got tired of the bs with all these companies. Switched and no longer those issues.
Ive only had 2 issues with bull bay. One was fixed in mins , the other was fixed in less then 24 hours. Both free too
I have all their rods but the banshee is definitely my favorite 7'10 6-12. Have it paired with a 3000 sustain.
But I just got a few tac x rods and they may take the #1 spot. But wanna use them a few more times
Thank you so much C.A. I can not tell how much this helps me!!
That’s what I keep telling my wife, one rod is never enough!
Same. She doesn’t get it. Lol
@@aaronhiggs mine finally got it once she went on a few fishing charters and seen first hand you can't use light rods against mangroves or docks. And that's one example.
You better be careful telling her that.😂
I volunteer 🤣
WELL… At least you’re open about it!! 🤷🏻♂️😂
I've fished around 40 different spinning rods that are advertised as being inshore rods. They ranged from $75 to $400. The rod that I always come back to is the Falcon XG 7' medium action rod. The rod is a nice balance of lightweight, tough, decent backbone, good ergonomics, nice handle length and for the price, a good all around stick. My TFO and Shimano rods are lighter, but considerably more fragile and expensive if something goes wrong. I have a couple of Penn rods that are decent, but the action doesn't load up as well on casts.
You Rock C.A!!
I’m that guy that has 12 rods all
Medium light , time for some variety..
Preciate ya!
You drop more knowledge than anyone Ive ever watched, its much appreciated!
This is Captain Wayne Conn from Reward Fishing Fleet downtown Miami.
After 50 years of fishing professionally offshore I’m getting back to my inshore fishing roots. I enjoy your informative videos.
I’ve recently been buying (and returning) quite a few inshore rods. One was a Fitzgerald spinning rod that you brought to my attention. Unfortunately the one I got has this tiny guide inside the first guide. I have built rods since the 60’s and spinners have large first guides for a reason. Seems this would restrict free flowing line off the spool, and have to reduce casting efficiency. The rod otherwise seems really nice, and easily worth the cost.
My thoughts are that it is an attempt to create and market something new, yet not accomplishing much.
What’s your take?
C A you're an absolute legend🙌🏾
Appreciative of the kind words
@@flatsclasscharters thanks for the knowledge captain always learning from you, simple question different between teramar PX and teramar xx médium and médium heavy action?
I have 2500 Daiwa reel and I will be pier fishing, lake fishing. What rod would you suggest? Fishing mackerel. Thanks
@FlatsClass/TH-cam I have a PENN Pursuit IV Medium-Heavy Rod 7ft paired with a PENN Pursuit IV 6000 Reel, I haven't used it yet because I am not sure if I should place a 20 pound braided line on it or something (lighter or heavier), what's your suggestion? I will be using this inshore at piers around my city to target groupers, snappers and maybe some mackerel action.
30lb braid should be adequate for those scenarios
Choice of rod becomes tricky when traveling. Far fewer inshore rods are available in two-piece configurations. A standard SUV can only haul one piece rods with an overhead rack. ( Hanging them out the window isn't an option on the Interstate. ) The length and action suggestions make sense. Do I *really* need a new rod now? No ... but it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the Fall.
Loved your comment in the video, instead of inshore fisherman. You said," Land Angler". I'm going to use that title from now on. LOL🤣😂 Great Video
"Surf fisherman" is a far more common classification in my part of the country, and is actually a fairly respectable name I think. Land Angler made me chuckle as well.
Awesome!!! Very instructive
So I bought a Vanford C3000XG this week and tonight I ordered the Teramar XX TXESX70M going to use Trilene or Ande 10b mono to 8lb v2 superslick in moonshine to 20lb inshore seagaur leader. Did I make a pairing mistake or am I good?. Planning on throwing paddle tails, 17mr's and and spoons with this setup.
Great tips for rod length, actions and powers for inshore fishing! As an experienced inshore and nearshore fisherman, I have completely moved away from buying or ordering name brand store bought rods, not that I don't think they have decent quality as I have owned and still own Shimano and Daiwa rods mainly for nearshore grouper fishing, but if you can afford it or befriend a custom rod builder like I have, going the custom rod route is so much better, I use MHX rod blanks which have a transferable lifetime warranty which you can get in many different prices, lengths, actions, and powers, and then you can get the exact guides and components you want, which all said and done for the rods I have built would cost 2 to 3 times as much trying to find something similar that a "name brand" builds which you can never find exactly the way I have custom rods built from a "name brand" rod company. I have custom rods from 6'6" for my daughter, and rods in all different lengths from 7' to 7'6" in different actions and powers for different applications for myself, similar to the applications what Captain CA talks about in this video. I'm telling you, if you can afford it go the custom rod route and get exactly what you want! Learn how
@FlatsClass/TH-cam great video, very informative. Love Shimano rods. HOWEVER, your background in the video had me so distracted I almost had to watch twice to get your message (joking). The reason I say this is I am very impressed with your boat shed/cover. Would you be able to tell me where you procured it? I am in desperate need of a boat shed/cover where I am in Texas and any assistance you could provide would be appreciated.
C.A. is there any chance you could list the model numbers? All the models are so close.
A fast action in the southeast would be great! If southeast would have a fast action would it have the same action as Teramar xx?
what's the model number on the first two rods
Thx for a great video - can you pls give me the rod model you suggested for larger topwater lures? Thx !
Tell me I'm wrong, anyone else keep telling non fishing people that you need a rod/reel for every lure lol out there to cover all your lures you keep in your tackle box. I just need rods and maybe reels to match for the lures I have. But have started to go back to my roots of finnesse fishing being rods with 3000 size reels for medium to medium light rods 10-15 lb braid for 1/4oz maybe 3/8oz max because that's all I used growing up and learned how to fish for large fish on that style fishing and love it. My largest rod/reel I have is a 12ft surf rod with a penn warfare with 30lb lb and 50lb leader. And everything else max is a medium heavy for throwing small to medium pin fish and that's it.
Awesome Information, Awesome Channel, Awesome Education, CA! I fish Sebastian Inlet and the beaches, can I get from you the three rods that would be best for big Tarpon, Big Reds & Snook, as well as a 7'0 rod that would be awesome for walk the dog smaller topwater up to 1&1/2 oz. It may be what you have mentioned here but wanted your advice as well as the model numbers of each rod. Thanks,
Im a mh kind of fisherman throwing weightless senkos for big bass on spinning combo
what are some good 7'6 2pcs
fast rod for inshore jig and bait
From what I find online, the Teramar XX med/lite for finesse baits does not have a fully corked handle, which is what I prefer. What rod would you recommend with a fully corked handle?
Dangit! Anything about the Zodias? Or did i miss it??
I got one of the Shimano GLF inshore rods, medium 7', fast action and I loooove it. It's my go to for and shrimp imitation lure I have, salt strong power prawn, vudu shrimp, zman prerigged shrimp. I loved it so much I got a 7' Shimano casting rod, medium heavy for my home poured 5" swimbaits. It's 👌
Distance matters if you fish a shore thats really shallow really far out like I do. I need a 9 foot rod, I fish the shores that no one else does and I catch fish there too!
Capt, this was super informative! Thank you.. BYW based on your description of the Angler that you let use the 7-6 Teramar….Dayum I will be sure to bring 2 good eyes next time so I get the fancy rods!! 😂😂
I’m doing inshore jetski fishing what reel size do you recommend
Ugly Stick Dock Runner Combo best setup and is waterproof and will land hugr tarpon and snook
Hey buddy, I understand you fish from a boat and your rods are generally one piece and almost all 7'5 feet fast action rods. I fish only from shore and my rods are generally fast action and range from 8 to 14 feet depending on the condition of the bank. The sizes of the reels I use are between 2000 and 4500 and for long distance casting is 8000. Yes, I agree with your ideas. I never limit my arsenal by saying that one or two pieces of equipment will do the same job for me. Nobody can say that "I am a professional angler" (you cannot become a professional in hunting or fishing, every experience teaches something and a learner is not a professional but only can be an apprentice) and nobody can say a few fishing poles are enough for fishing. I have been fishing for 50 years and I am still not a professional. Greetings from Turkiye and I wish you many trophy fishing.
I am getting into inshore fishing here in northern Florida and i was wondering what size spinning reel you would recommend for a 7' medium/medium heavy, fast rod? I have been looking at the Penn Clash II 3000-4000 or the Quantum Cabo 30-40. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Grab a Stradic 3000 and a 7 to 7’6 medium
@@gregoriospantos2084 Is there a particular Stradic model that you recommend?
2500 diawa b g / Penn spinfisher 3 k if u use a 7.6 “ rod the 3500 spinfisher is perfect Balanced and still throw 1/8 oz jig
I completely understand the sponsor staff relationship and have been and still am a dedicated Shimano user (reels exclusively but no longer rods). What you are privileged to that we, the end users are not is discounts or free rods when they fail, and they will fail as do all rods. Where you could help is letting Shimano know they are severely lacking in the customer service area. We pay good money for a rod that breaks as a result of damage incurred during shipping to/or at the retailer and is covered under warranty but the cost is on the customer to return the entire rod to Shimano. So not only are you covering the expense of the initial purchase but also covering shipping back to Shimano. This makes Shimano rods much less appealing and competitive with other rods. This is exactly why I moved away from G-Loomis. I apologize for the lengthy reply, but Shimano will not listen to their customers (and I am not alone) maybe they will listen to their Prostaff. Very informative video as usual.
I had the same issue. I went to Bull Bay and have had zero issues. Great customer service.
Just like Aaron check out bull bay rods. I used Shimano, daiwa , Penn , st croix , and so on. I have been using them now 6 years now and are by far the best rods imo.
The customer service from bull bay is top notch , lifetime warranty , and based right here in Lakeland Florida.
If anything manufacturing wise happens to the rod they will fix or replace it for free.
If something happens to your rod outside of a manufacturer defect. ( I.e. user error slam door on rod , dog eats it , stock rod into fan and so on ) depending on model it's either $40 or $60 for it to get fixed or replaced
@@aaronhiggs amen bud
I use bull Bay and I love them and customer service is great.
Agreed 100% I’m straight shimano but strictly just their reels for same reason
Shimano used to have a lifetime warranty on rods, but not anymore as is mentioned here. One way to help with warranty is to establish a good relationship with your local tackle store rather than buying everything online. I had two Shimano rods replaced instantly off the shelf by the owner. I’ve owned probably a dozen Shimano rods (now mostly offshore) and my overall experience has been positive. My best setup last year was a 6000 gosa on a 7’ med light trevala (multiple 30 lb kingfish and a 40 lb cobia plus gaffer dolphin). I think they offer good value for the performance you get.
The problem with lifetime guarantees is that you end up subsidizing the guy who is drunk and backs his trailer over his rod canon, etc... If there was something wrong with the rod, and you paid premium dollar for it you should get replacements. But whether it is fishing or some other activity, people have also learned how to abuse gear in terms of what it was designed for, and then put that cost on the rest of us.
Thanks for the Info...Always look forward to your videos. I left a couple of Voicemails for you and sent you a message.
What’s the action on the 7ft MH rod for top waters?
Same fast
What is the name of the 4th rod?
TMSX80MH is the sauce. Greatest Rod. Only way it could be better is if it were longer.
Shimano is fire. Definitely worth the money and last a long time.
im a penn guy or wanna believe that lol but shimano is where is at for smooth reels! not sure sure about rods, i have never owned a shimano rod
Daiwa is just as smooth.
@@aaronhiggs which one, the BG wasn't
@@aaronhiggs most times they are to smooth
@@AliexFolgueira I'm not a daiwa fan but I'm a big time Shimano fan and I found that bg and up are smoother then Shimano actually they are to smooth for my liking 😂
Maybe a defective BG you felt ? I know I had the Fuego Lt , ballistic Lt , back bay lt and excist Lt and all soooo smooth but the frames flex so damn bad. Sold them and just continued to use Shimano and still am. 18 years and counting
Earned my sub today brother, #flastrong
Sales sales sales
I’m not sure if any of this applies to strippers cause I’m so used to slinging big poppers, swim baits, and bucktails often over 1.5 ounces for big stripes
i like shimano rods, i dont like their reels. they have some very nice rods
Jones Kimberly Smith Anthony Lopez Christopher
Always trying to sell something
But there all made in China.
That is not the best inshore rod - not even close. As a matter of fact, Shimano would rather you invest in the Loomis rods since they own that too. Maybe the Inshore NRX or NRX+ rods they can claim are up there with the best.