Loved the video! It's nice to hear that someone else believes in a bunch of small details that I do as well (E.g Henry selling the brand to new owners who brand the company as Fazbears entertainment, and the Original Freddy's closing in Either 1986 or early 1987)
7:10 I like to think that even in-universe, "Golden Freddy" is a nickname, since it doesn't really make sense to actually name a character that. Assuming they don't just call him "Freddy" and ignore the visual differences (and assuming that they _do_ change his name), they would probably give him a name that suggests he's a relative of Freddy's (probably something derivative, like Fredrick or Papa Fazbear). Phone Guy does refer to the suit by the name of Fredbear when talking about Freddy's in FNaF 3, but I don't know how valid that is for how they would introduce it to the audience.
It's probably just called fredbear always by Fazbear entertainment I do wonder what the relationship is between thr two bears... in universe? As in, how the company treats it for the cartoons and marketing and stuff
Golden Freddy is a nickname, nickname in universe confirmed the one of the stories of tales it’s the one someone gets to dress up to do a spring trap cosplay
I like your take on the lore, I think it’s better than Game Theory. I have one question though, how would you explain the scenes that are featured once you complete the nights in FNAF 2? It’s the cutscenes of being Freddy and turning his head to see Bonnie and Chica in the dark.
How the purple guy (who could by michael after S.L, who might be under the control or inluence of ennard) affect charlotte body... very similiar to how the stitchwraith affect his victims with reamnant.
It still doesn’t make it “too confusing”, because it still gives info about who the two co-owners were (which both of them were Henry and William Afton) and their relationship with each other, while showing the motives of William Afton of why he became a serial child murderer, and even giving info about why William Afton wasn’t caught after the murders. And besides the novel trilogy and the Fazbear Frights anthology series are still canon and in a different timeline/universe. Except for the Survival Logbook and the Tales From the Pizzaplex anthology series that are in the same timeline as the games.
My question here is, if he was caught on camera using the suit, and the backstage rooms had Security cameras, why wasn't he charged for murder, can someone clear me that out?
@@Wizardjones69 Im 3 months late but wtv. I don't get it because Gabriel was murdered at the backstage and the yellow rabbit suit was left there, and William's only killing zone was the backstage with Cassidy, because the saferoom was sealed, so that's what I don't understand.
Scott wouldn't change the number of victims without reason. He clearly wanted to introduce a 7th hidden kid in UCN. Whether you believe stitchline or not. Scott introduced one extra kid
I have a different interpretation on what became of fredbear after the fnaf 4 era, see I don’t believe that fredbear was rebranded as golden Freddy nor is golden Freddy a fredbear animatronic. Why I don’t think the two are related, simple, they don’t share any design similarities other than “yellow bear”, I’ll elaborate. Golden Freddy is a yellow recoloration of freddy in design, sharing the black clothing with freddy. They both have the same head shape, the same color bow tie and top hat and both are humanoid but cartoonishly proportioned. (for example, having four fat fingers as apposed to a humans five slender fingers) now to where I’m going with this, pretend like it’s 2016 again, (as in, I’ll address ucn later) Scott has not put an actual model in his games of an animatronic that is fredbear in any of his games (deteriorated or otherwise) and you feel like imaging what fredbear would look like, first you would take a look at the fnaf 4 sprites to get a general body shape (built like a tree looking legs, large torso, large head, slender arms and smaller than average hands, oh and don’t forget the purple hat and bow tie.) you have a good idea now but you want to include the small things that sprite art usually can’t portray correctly. Where do you look first to see what a springlock animatronic generally would look like, at the only springlock animatronic that has a 3d model of course, springtrap.(because you were intelligent enough to know that springlock animatronics don’t have all of the same design principles as regular animatronics, right?) let’s see, well, there’s not much else to be gathered from springtraps design, oh right the fredbear springlock animatronic sprites had a permanent balled up fist so maybe we can just update the hands in our images design. Yep springtrap has *five slender fingers to accommodate for the human that would be climbing inside the thing* so fredbear must also have it because he is *also a springlock animatronic that designed to act as a costume when the need arises.* “Why not just use nightmare fredbear as a base?” Honestly it’s been called into question how reliable the nightmare animatronics are as a “approximation” of what the older animatronic models looked like so i didn’t want to use any bases that could be called into question on their legitimacy. Now that’s out of the way and we have thoroughly analyzed the design of golden Freddy and the “very likely, but not definitive.” design of fredbear, I ask you, do you notice a major discrepancy? (hint: it isn’t any about the colors) The correct answer is the hands, golden Freddy has *four fat cartoonish fingers,* while fredbear has *five slender humanlike fingers because he is designed with the human anatomy in mind.* This is a fundamental design difference that cannot be easily explained away as “Scott goofed up the hexadecimal values again.” *this is defnitve proof that golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronics in any way shape or form* (including “the spirit that is golden Freddy just decided to make their manifestation look like fredbear” because while it may be the case that they were inspired, as in not copying but taking bits and bobs of the original thing to make it your own, by fredbear they are not a fredbear because they have to many design inconsistencys with fredbear to reasonably conclude that “they were trying to make a 1:1 but couldn’t quite do that so they stuck with the best attempt.” because golden Freddy doesn’t look like someone’s best attempt at recreating fredbear from memory.) Ok so golden Freddy is not a fredbear, but, how is that related to the rebranding that Freddy’s underwent after fnaf 4? (or arguably fnaf 2) how it’s related is via that pin I put on ucn fredbear earlier. Because it is the creaky floorboard in the metaphorical house that is my observations on how a fredbear would look like. Ucn fredbear, looks like Scott put him in two weeks before ucn’s release and didn’t have the time or energy to make an actual animatronic that has the design intricacies of a springlock animatronic so he instead decided to just use the models that he is most familiar with, the fnaf 1 models, as a basis because he knew the fans would eat that shit up anyways because “OH MY GOD, FREDBEAR IS AN ACTUAL 3D MODEL IN UCN!!!!” You just insulted Scott without actually getting to the point. I’m getting there strawman, Jesus… so I’ll explain the lore inaccuracies of the ucn model: 1. He looks like a fnaf 1 reject 2. He doesn’t look like a springlock animatronic an instead looks like one of the suits that the animatronics stuff you inside to kill you because the suits specially made for the animatronics are extremely hazardous to wear for humans because of the extensive amount of wiring and other animatronics components inside that will stab into you and make you bleed out in the best case scenarios (this is why the springlock animatronics had to be specially designed to safely house a human inside them, and even then you know how reliable those things are at preventing your untimely death via deadly fursuit.) 3. This is the most “how did that get past the editing phase” thing, *ucn fredbear has four fat cartoonish fingers* Ok fair points on how this isn’t an accurate representation of what fredbear looks like, NOW GET TO THE ACTUAL POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS! STRAWMAN, IF YOU HAD WAITED ONE SECOND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE NOW. Ahem, now on to the point for real. If all of those design oversights were by chance intentional then we need to explain it, and I will, I believe ucn fredbear *IS NOT THE FREDBEAR SPRINGLOCK ANIMATRONIC THAT BIT THE CRYING CHILD.* I am going out on a limb with this but I believe ucn fredbear was the prototype *non springlock* animatronic version of fredbear intended for the fnaf 1 location (he doesn’t look out of place with the fnaf 1 designs in the slightest) that was scrapped late into the planing of “the restablishment of Freddy’s with the old animatronics, a shoestring budget, and a metric ton of hope” because of both budget constraints and the old saying “some things are best left forgotten, forever.” Thank you for having the attention span to read this, I would have made a video but that is out of my current expertise and I felt like saying it now.
Woah woah, ok I didn’t anticipate the heavy amount of “non game” material used for this theory, um. Idk if this theory about fredbear applies to whatever you are doing with this theory because I was under the assumption that we would be using the games only since the books should be seen as parallels to the actual fnaf events instead of “1:1 this happened in the fnaf games universe with minor adjustments depending on how cleanly it fits the game’s universe as is”
Are we seriously debating if the yellow bear we see in fnaf 1 and the yellow bear we see in UCN are not the same. It's like saying that the withereds aren't the classics. Scott likes to change things up, he could've easily made fredbear just a recolor, but he put some time and effort in it instead of just changing the colors. While yes the changes are minor, he still wanted it to be at least a bit more unique. And yes the model itself doesn't have 5 fingers, that's why Scott hid the hands in his jumpscare. Fredbear has always been portrayed as a re-colored freddy like golden freddy. And even after ucn he still stuck with the fredbear design being just a re-colored freddy with minor differences because that's how he always looked liked. And so what, golden freddy having 4 fingers dosen't mean he isn't fredbear, Scott made fnaf 1 and 2 without the knowledge of spring suits. And even in the Novel trilogy, the original fredbear turns into golden freddy, the same most likely happens in the games. Yes the designs are inconsistent, but so is Scott. In every game, he likes to change the designs of the robots. For example: The withereds, the phantoms, scraptrap, scrap baby, molten freddy. So fredbear being a little different from golden freddy dosen't mean anything. And you're just looking to deep into this. Remember Mr Hippo's warning about delving in to deep into something. Also yes, I put a lot of the Frights lore in the video. Scott never said they are supposed to be parallels like the Novel trilogy. Frights is supposed to be the aftermath of FNaF 6 and UCN. Anyways, Thank You for commenting :)
@@sambar2772 thank you for taking the time to read and understand my original comment(s), it seems like you got the wrong impression of what I was trying to say so I want to make some clarifications. I am not trying to debate something stupid like your examples given, I am just trying to express an epiphany I got about how fredbear and golden Freddy may or may not be related to each other and also tried to explain the one contradictory thing I saw in the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic” hypothesis because I saw it as the more believable one and felt like with the right push it could be a solid hypothesis. Now about ucn fredbear, I saw two possibilities that fit with the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic” 1. Scott unintentionally (or intentionally sue to lazyness.) made ucn fredbear inconsistent with the lore because of an unspecified reason and just hoped no one would notice. Or the more interesting possibility 2. Scott intentionally made ucn fredbear *extremely* similar in design to the fnaf 1 location animatronics so that he could have his cake and eat it too, as in, he could include *a* fredbear in ucn *and* not include the lore relevant version too (the one that bit the crying child and is a springlock animatronic. Although it’s debatable weather ucn fredbear is lore relevant as well, under the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic” assumption) Those two possibilities come from the fact that ucn fredbear is VERY similar to a fnaf 1 location animatronic in terms of structure and character design (the only difference outside of the recoloring is that his forehead is a bit different so that it gives him “resting ticked face” outside of that they share no other differences.) I bet you 20 dollars that if you showed someone that has never heard of fnaf before a picture of fnaf 1 Bonnie and ucn fredbear and asked them if they looked like they were from the same game, that person would likely say yes. (Only having a possibly of saying no due to the “trick question” fallacy) I’m saying that over and over again because you don’t make something that similar in design to something from 4 years ago (especially with Scott because like you said earlier, he doesn’t like to reuse models, especially before the help wanted era.) and not imply something more than surface level without it being accidental or a result of lazyness. Onto the books, your fine with using them in your theories about the game universe, but I personally don’t like theorize about the games using evidence not found in the games too the extent you went, because I’m a basic bitch who plays it safe. I hope that clears things up (I.e. you don’t think I’m a dumbo who thinks basic observations are theories.) in spite of the book inclusions I think this is a fine video and I think I’ll watch part two when it comes out. P.s. I know you probably don’t want to even see the name “ucn fredbear” again but I literally just thought of one more thing that could go either way in terms of how fredbear is/isn’t fredbear. You know the method of how we even saw ucn fredbear in the first place (deathcoin golden Freddy on a night with him on ai 1 and everyone else deactivated.) it’s interesting that even though golden Freddy is fredbear (if that’s your interpretation.) it’s not golden Freddy (aka the one you should not have killed’s animatronic, we think…) that jumpscares you but it’s fredbear, and it’s only after this specific set of circumstances, that is like William defying his tormentor, that fredbear kills William instead of the animatronic that he was deathcoining, golden Freddy. This can imply that ether fredbear isn’t the same as gold Freddy because “why go through the trouble of transforming into fredbear and only in this specific set of circumstances?” And could also imply that they are the same because “why does fredbear come out only when golden Freddy is death coined and on no other occasion?” What the answer is solely relies on what Scott’s intentions were in making the fredbear jumpscare activation method what it is now, ether it was to make finding the fredbear jumpscare easier because it makes sense to find the yellow bear because of another yellow bear, or it was intended as an answer to the mystery of “how are gold freddy and fredbear related?” Honestly I should make this a video when I figure out how to make them since typing my thoughts out is exhausting and no one but the video creator and their viewers that bother to scroll through the comment section will see it anyways.
I apologise if my previous comment sounded a bit aggressive, that was not my intention. Anyways, like I said, ucn fredbear has no contradiction to what we know about fredbear. Yes, he probably has 4 fingers in his model, that's why Scott intentionally hid his hands. That's basically it. Fredbear has always been similar in appearance to freddy. While yes golden freddy and fredbear have different colored hat and bowtie, we can assume that they were changed after the bite of 83. Also, again, While yes fredbear and golden freddy have minor differences it doesn't mean they are not the same. Golden freddy is a ghost in the end of the day. The reason I think fredbear jumpscares you after you try and death coin golden freddy, is because I think golden freddy transformed into his most powerful form, his original look, to kill Afton. While yes that does sound silly, this is the same game that has toy freddy playing five nights with Mr hugs. Also, that would be so stupid if Scott just put a fake fredbear and not put, y'know, the real one. You think after he saw the crys and please of the fans, he would just chuck in a non-canon looking fredbear ?. Really ?. About Frights, you can believe whatever you want about them. But the fact is, they deal with the aftermath of fnaf 6 and Andrew, who was introduced in ucn as a 7th hidden victim of Afton during '85. If you're asking where did you get that 7th victim from. The Toy chica cutscenes show, in total, 7 victims of Afton. Clearly the first is Charlotte, the other 5 are mci kids and the last one is Andrew. Frights then give us an answer on what happened to William and Andrew after ucn. Think of it as an extended epilogue.
@@sambar2772 to be honest I always like the idea or golden Freddy being a rebranded version of fredbear cuz that would make sense who would want to eat at a place that had a machine accidentally crushed a kids skull open with its mouth also I like to think they never used springlock suits in fnaf 1 or 2
ive always saw that fnaf 1 is named fnaf 1 for a reason that being that is the first freddy pizzeria but it was opened twice, once before fnaf 2 and once after fnaf 2 in 1993 during fnaf 1 gameplay
You told me think about, well, I did Now I don't wanna feel a thing no more I'm tired of begging for the things that I want I'm over sleeping like a dog on the floor Imagine living like a king someday A single night without a ghost in the walls We are the shadows screaming "TAKE US NOW" We'd rather die than live to rust on the ground.
I really like your interpretation of events, and ESPECIALLY the fact that you used Afton's actual motives to kill Charlie and not some made-up shi about CC's death. Refreshing to see something like this. Though I do have a theory to share here - the order children were murdered in may be a little bit different. You see, it seems like we've had multiple hints from Scott at this point about the order of children that went missing, and the most important one is probably Chica's Highschool Years from UCN. These cutscenes by themselfes seem to be a somewhat "mirror" of what happened in MCI: Toy Chica, with seemingly 1 animatronic previously "taken down", goes after 6 other animatronics: She lures the first one into her house by asking for help with her homework. On the next day, she lures another one by telling him that his dead dog is alive. Next one would fall into her trap, after she would say that her house was caught on fire. Another one was lured in by the "hostages", that she made up. Next one she attacked right inside of their own house, breaking in through the window. For the last one, she straight up kidnaps them, by knocking them out with a shovel, and then tells them that she saved them. The dead dog, and "a window to break in" made me think about the cutscene being connected to the MCI kids, and the order Afton lured them in. Let's start off: The victim that was killed by Toy Chica offscreen is Charlie - she's his TRUE first kill. First MCI victim is... Unknown. I'll try to elaborate a bit later. This "sixth" kid is the only weak part of this theory tbh, everything else lines up perfectly. Second victim was obviously Susie - she was the "first", she saw everything. The blonde girl was shown to be lured away by the same reasons as the second victim of Toy Chica - a dead dog. Third one was Fritz - and I'll explain why in Gabriel's part. She was lured away by Afton telling him that the house was on fire, and friendly yellow rabbit needed help to extinguish it. Then, he was killed, and Afton stuffed her body into the Foxy suit. Jeremy was the fourth victim - Afton lured him away into the backroom by the fake "hostages". He was stuffed into the Bonnie suit. The fifth victim was Gabriel - This time Afton decided to lure away a child right from their house. And who could be a better candidat to be the one, than the kid from an abusive family? We see the result of this Afton's kill in Midnight Motorist - Later that night, after the drunk father finally arrived back home, it was way past the midnight. It started raining at this point. When he arrived at home, he noticed that his son locked himself in a room again, despite him telling not to. After a few attempts to open the door, Father investigates the child's room from outside, only to find out that he ran off to Freddy's once again. He'll be sorry when he comes back. But, Gabriel did not come back. He was lured away by a man in the yellow rabbit suit, all the way into Freddy's during their late hours. We can see the footprints, identical to Springtrap's mysteriously regenerated feet in FFPS. Think about it - why would Scott bring back Springbonnie's suit feet for no reason, and then use the identical footprints to his feet in the minigame, possibly related to Afton luring away a child? He wanted to show that the animatronic outside of the window - was our yellow rabbit. Furthermore, he elaborated on this even more in FNAF HELP WANTED - Pizza Party level in the Night Terrors section is basically a recreation of that scene. We, as a Gabriel, get lured all the way from our bedroom right into the Freddy's by a man in the yellow rabbit suit. And, right before following him behind a curtian, we can see 3 suits lying in the other corners of the room: A Chica suit, A Foxy suit, And a Bonnie suit, that seems to be still in repair. That's why I theorised for Fritz to come next after Susie's death: Both of their suits are fully complete by the time Gabriel arrives, but Bonnie is still in a state of disrepair, meaning that he possible came before Gabriel. After following the yellow rabbit, we appear on stage, holding a microphone, being presented as Freddy Fazbear himself. Gabriel was stuffed in the Freddy suit. The last MCI victim is Cassidy: Afton straight up kidnapped her, knocking out with a shovel. She was stuffed inside the Fredbear suit, and unlike the previous victims(Susie and THE FIRST ONE being under the question) her death inside the suit was so painful, that she was able to move it by herself. She didn't need Charlie's help, she didn't need to be "given a life", that's why she jumpscares you in "GIVE GIFTS, GIVE LIFE" before you can even do anything. So, who's the first MCI kid that went unnoticed? I don't know. I have a plausible suggestion that it might be The One You Shouldn't Have Killed, an Andrew parrallel(maybe Michael Brooks) or even straight up Andrew himself, which would explain why he doesn't have an animatronic to possess - he possesses Afton(or his suit). Though in that case, I think it would be more logical for him to be moved onto the place of last MCI victim, and Cassidy to moved onto the place of the first one - Fredbear was probably ALREADY in the backroom(Or worse, he could've used Fredbear first to lure it, and only after Cassidy he would use Springbonnies suit), so it would make sense for her to get stuffed into the springlock suit first(and die from it). And TOYSHK being the last one would make more sense - Afton is out of the suits he can hide the body into - except... except his own suit. His precious Springbonnie is the only place he could hide that last kid in. That's why TOYSHK goes on to follow Afton throughout the rest of his life - together with the springlocks that will become a part of him soon. A part that he'll never be able to take off ever again. The part with TOYSHK sounds really weird, but its the most logical explanation I could think of. P.S. - Gender mistakes with Fritz are intentional, I believe that the legendary four are the FNAF 4 kids that promised to be on CC's birthday due to them being place in the reversed order of how they appear in FNAF 3 Happiest Day by completing the secret minigames, that every child has some connection to, and the INSANE similarities between the girl with broken toy chica toy and Susie. Design is BASICALLY IDENTICAL, and the FNAF 4 kid actually falls in place with Toy Chica's minigame from FNAF 3, that upon completing spawns Chica's soul into the Happiest Day minigame, so here's that. All the other kids fall in order with their souls pretty much too - BB's air adventure spawns in Gabriel into Happiest Day, and the balloon kid from FNAF 4 falls into the chronology perfectly. Same goes for Chica kid as I explained. Then goes the Stage 01 minigame that spawns in Fritz, and... Its a pigtail girl. Though, she talks about people going missing, which is shown in Stage 01, her design is very similar to Foxy with the reddish color-scheme and ear-like pigtails, and the gender issue could be connected to the overall gender issue of Foxes in FNAF - their gender is yes. The last one is the plushtrap kid, with his plush springbonnie being posed somewhat similar to the Shadow Bonnie sprite in FNAF 3 in Shadow Bonnie minigame that spawns in Jeremy... Yeah, his connection is even more of a stretch, but he fits into the minigame chronology nonetheless. I know that this way they don't line up with their movie designs, but to be fair - neither Susie's design in the movie was in line with canon Susie design, so we basically haven't seen anyone except Charlie, Cassidy and Susie.
The one thing I don't understand is if the withereds have the victims stuffed in them. Because if they were before the 1993 animatronics of FNAF 1 then why are there missing children posters in the FNAF 1 restaurant? I also just want to believe that the 93 animatronics have the MCU stuffed in them but can't find a reasonable explanation outside that William just killed another set of random 5 kids
Definitely would love to see ylu tackle Jr's bc there is no way its jist a Bar. I always thought it was yhe original fnaf pizzaria (being the Jr location since Freadbears would still be open) amd the reason William was not let in was bc he was a suspect of the MCI. But if Charlie died at Freddy's then idk what it could be
Imo Jr is still Freddy's and Charlie was killed at freadbears, as I find it interesting that 1) according to UCN chica was the first so the MCI could have been going on before Charlie's death which gives reason as to why William would not be let into Freddy's and 2) the last chica cutscenes with the oig mentions a car, and a car was involved in how Charlie was killed. It also explains why she was killed the way she was, since he had no access to Freddy's at that point
@@shinymk6562still don’t believe that JR’S is one of the Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza’s locations, and was simply just a bar that William Afton used to drink at when he wasn’t around, before he possibly got into a bar fight and got kicked out. Which it’s still possibly the reason of why William Afton killed Henry’s daughter, because he was drunk, mentally unstable, and his jealousy towards Henry made him became a killer at first.
Been saying this for a while but people are dead-set on it either being a coincidence, or would rather talk about the new convoluted sci-fi pizza plex garbage.
Now that's a good one. There's a lot of overlooked info that's been used here, like the fact that boyh suits have been used.
Loved the video! It's nice to hear that someone else believes in a bunch of small details that I do as well (E.g Henry selling the brand to new owners who brand the company as Fazbears entertainment, and the Original Freddy's closing in Either 1986 or early 1987)
7:10 I like to think that even in-universe, "Golden Freddy" is a nickname, since it doesn't really make sense to actually name a character that. Assuming they don't just call him "Freddy" and ignore the visual differences (and assuming that they _do_ change his name), they would probably give him a name that suggests he's a relative of Freddy's (probably something derivative, like Fredrick or Papa Fazbear). Phone Guy does refer to the suit by the name of Fredbear when talking about Freddy's in FNaF 3, but I don't know how valid that is for how they would introduce it to the audience.
It's probably just called fredbear always by Fazbear entertainment
I do wonder what the relationship is between thr two bears... in universe? As in, how the company treats it for the cartoons and marketing and stuff
Take your pick:
-Cousins
-Father and Son
-Uncle and nephew
-Brothers
-Friends
Golden Freddy is a nickname, nickname in universe confirmed the one of the stories of tales it’s the one someone gets to dress up to do a spring trap cosplay
He's most likely called fredbear by the company
Super freaking awesome video. I really enjoyed it! The theory makes a lot of sense, and it was easy to understand and follow along. Great work!
Thank you :)
I like your take on the lore, I think it’s better than Game Theory. I have one question though, how would you explain the scenes that are featured once you complete the nights in FNAF 2? It’s the cutscenes of being Freddy and turning his head to see Bonnie and Chica in the dark.
It's called dreams in the game files
I would like to add I think Andrew was the kid in midnight motorist, and he was an experiment victim in Fnaf 4
I do think Fredbear being Golden Freddy is plausible, however he has been tweaked a bit to improve his condition
exactly
But what happened to the bodies of children after that, I know that they have decomposed, but the skeletons؟؟!
Im guessing the company eventually did find the bodies, but ended up getting rid of them to avoid further problems
“Charlie’s determination caused her to refuse to die” undertale-fnaf connection confirmed?!
“Hot noods were endle- 🐻🐰🐤🦊”
Woah the art in the video is great!
How the purple guy (who could by michael after S.L, who might be under the control or inluence of ennard) affect charlotte body... very similiar to how the stitchwraith affect his victims with reamnant.
The complex non canon book lore seeping into the game canon made everything way too confusing
It still doesn’t make it “too confusing”, because it still gives info about who the two co-owners were (which both of them were Henry and William Afton) and their relationship with each other, while showing the motives of William Afton of why he became a serial child murderer, and even giving info about why William Afton wasn’t caught after the murders. And besides the novel trilogy and the Fazbear Frights anthology series are still canon and in a different timeline/universe. Except for the Survival Logbook and the Tales From the Pizzaplex anthology series that are in the same timeline as the games.
(spoilers) you predicted with your minigames in the video the fnaf movie intro lol
the first fnaf game has enough story to be its own game if there weren’t any sequels
Balls… nuts even… love your vids
so confidently said "Bonnie" xD
My question here is, if he was caught on camera using the suit, and the backstage rooms had Security cameras, why wasn't he charged for murder, can someone clear me that out?
Because willian lured the children to the safe room, not the backstage
@@Wizardjones69 Im 3 months late but wtv. I don't get it because Gabriel was murdered at the backstage and the yellow rabbit suit was left there, and William's only killing zone was the backstage with Cassidy, because the saferoom was sealed, so that's what I don't understand.
@@LtCrafting224 the safe room is connected with the pizza party room, as also said in into the pit
FredBear'z houzed Freddy's animatronikz. A&n' tey wer' 0pne in zmea tim'e.
i dont really like some of the things in the video regarding the lore, but great video regardless
Fair enough
Just so you know the books aren’t canon
Who made model in thumbnail its really acurate
Credits to the model is in the description
@@sambar2772 oh damn my blind ass
Then why does fnaf 2 take place before fnaf 1Which is 1987 and fnaf 1 takes place in 1993
You got your location facts and a bit of lore wrong but i still enjoyed this
There’s no 6th kid! Idk why people keep saying this. There’s 5 and there’s Charlie. That’s it. Andrew is not canon, he’s Cassidy but in book form.
The Toy chica cutscenes shows 7 total victims in her backpack.
The 1st is Charlie
The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th are the mci
The 7th is Andrew
@@sambar2772I don’t think that should matter. It’s a cut seen and there’s literally no other evidence.
Scott wouldn't change the number of victims without reason.
He clearly wanted to introduce a 7th hidden kid in UCN.
Whether you believe stitchline or not. Scott introduced one extra kid
@@sambar2772 Toy Chica is William Afton😱😱😱😱
@sambar2772 Andrew is the book stand in for Cassidy
good video
Thanks :)
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Very cool but sometimes no proof.
the mimiiiiiiiic
Mimic
I have a different interpretation on what became of fredbear after the fnaf 4 era, see I don’t believe that fredbear was rebranded as golden Freddy nor is golden Freddy a fredbear animatronic.
Why I don’t think the two are related, simple, they don’t share any design similarities other than “yellow bear”, I’ll elaborate. Golden Freddy is a yellow recoloration of freddy in design, sharing the black clothing with freddy. They both have the same head shape, the same color bow tie and top hat and both are humanoid but cartoonishly proportioned. (for example, having four fat fingers as apposed to a humans five slender fingers) now to where I’m going with this, pretend like it’s 2016 again, (as in, I’ll address ucn later) Scott has not put an actual model in his games of an animatronic that is fredbear in any of his games (deteriorated or otherwise) and you feel like imaging what fredbear would look like, first you would take a look at the fnaf 4 sprites to get a general body shape (built like a tree looking legs, large torso, large head, slender arms and smaller than average hands, oh and don’t forget the purple hat and bow tie.) you have a good idea now but you want to include the small things that sprite art usually can’t portray correctly. Where do you look first to see what a springlock animatronic generally would look like, at the only springlock animatronic that has a 3d model of course, springtrap.(because you were intelligent enough to know that springlock animatronics don’t have all of the same design principles as regular animatronics, right?) let’s see, well, there’s not much else to be gathered from springtraps design, oh right the fredbear springlock animatronic sprites had a permanent balled up fist so maybe we can just update the hands in our images design. Yep springtrap has *five slender fingers to accommodate for the human that would be climbing inside the thing* so fredbear must also have it because he is *also a springlock animatronic that designed to act as a costume when the need arises.*
“Why not just use nightmare fredbear as a base?” Honestly it’s been called into question how reliable the nightmare animatronics are as a “approximation” of what the older animatronic models looked like so i didn’t want to use any bases that could be called into question on their legitimacy.
Now that’s out of the way and we have thoroughly analyzed the design of golden Freddy and the “very likely, but not definitive.” design of fredbear, I ask you, do you notice a major discrepancy? (hint: it isn’t any about the colors)
The correct answer is the hands, golden Freddy has *four fat cartoonish fingers,* while fredbear has *five slender humanlike fingers because he is designed with the human anatomy in mind.*
This is a fundamental design difference that cannot be easily explained away as “Scott goofed up the hexadecimal values again.” *this is defnitve proof that golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronics in any way shape or form* (including “the spirit that is golden Freddy just decided to make their manifestation look like fredbear” because while it may be the case that they were inspired, as in not copying but taking bits and bobs of the original thing to make it your own, by fredbear they are not a fredbear because they have to many design inconsistencys with fredbear to reasonably conclude that “they were trying to make a 1:1 but couldn’t quite do that so they stuck with the best attempt.” because golden Freddy doesn’t look like someone’s best attempt at recreating fredbear from memory.)
Ok so golden Freddy is not a fredbear, but, how is that related to the rebranding that Freddy’s underwent after fnaf 4? (or arguably fnaf 2) how it’s related is via that pin I put on ucn fredbear earlier. Because it is the creaky floorboard in the metaphorical house that is my observations on how a fredbear would look like. Ucn fredbear, looks like Scott put him in two weeks before ucn’s release and didn’t have the time or energy to make an actual animatronic that has the design intricacies of a springlock animatronic so he instead decided to just use the models that he is most familiar with, the fnaf 1 models, as a basis because he knew the fans would eat that shit up anyways because “OH MY GOD, FREDBEAR IS AN ACTUAL 3D MODEL IN UCN!!!!”
You just insulted Scott without actually getting to the point.
I’m getting there strawman, Jesus… so I’ll explain the lore inaccuracies of the ucn model:
1. He looks like a fnaf 1 reject
2. He doesn’t look like a springlock animatronic an instead looks like one of the suits that the animatronics stuff you inside to kill you because the suits specially made for the animatronics are extremely hazardous to wear for humans because of the extensive amount of wiring and other animatronics components inside that will stab into you and make you bleed out in the best case scenarios (this is why the springlock animatronics had to be specially designed to safely house a human inside them, and even then you know how reliable those things are at preventing your untimely death via deadly fursuit.)
3. This is the most “how did that get past the editing phase” thing, *ucn fredbear has four fat cartoonish fingers*
Ok fair points on how this isn’t an accurate representation of what fredbear looks like, NOW GET TO THE ACTUAL POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS!
STRAWMAN, IF YOU HAD WAITED ONE SECOND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE NOW.
Ahem, now on to the point for real. If all of those design oversights were by chance intentional then we need to explain it, and I will, I believe ucn fredbear *IS NOT THE FREDBEAR SPRINGLOCK ANIMATRONIC THAT BIT THE CRYING CHILD.* I am going out on a limb with this but I believe ucn fredbear was the prototype *non springlock* animatronic version of fredbear intended for the fnaf 1 location (he doesn’t look out of place with the fnaf 1 designs in the slightest) that was scrapped late into the planing of “the restablishment of Freddy’s with the old animatronics, a shoestring budget, and a metric ton of hope” because of both budget constraints and the old saying “some things are best left forgotten, forever.”
Thank you for having the attention span to read this, I would have made a video but that is out of my current expertise and I felt like saying it now.
Woah woah, ok I didn’t anticipate the heavy amount of “non game” material used for this theory, um. Idk if this theory about fredbear applies to whatever you are doing with this theory because I was under the assumption that we would be using the games only since the books should be seen as parallels to the actual fnaf events instead of “1:1 this happened in the fnaf games universe with minor adjustments depending on how cleanly it fits the game’s universe as is”
Are we seriously debating if the yellow bear we see in fnaf 1 and the yellow bear we see in UCN are not the same. It's like saying that the withereds aren't the classics. Scott likes to change things up, he could've easily made fredbear just a recolor, but he put some time and effort in it instead of just changing the colors. While yes the changes are minor, he still wanted it to be at least a bit more unique. And yes the model itself doesn't have 5 fingers, that's why Scott hid the hands in his jumpscare. Fredbear has always been portrayed as a re-colored freddy like golden freddy. And even after ucn he still stuck with the fredbear design being just a re-colored freddy with minor differences because that's how he always looked liked.
And so what, golden freddy having 4 fingers dosen't mean he isn't fredbear, Scott made fnaf 1 and 2 without the knowledge of spring suits.
And even in the Novel trilogy, the original fredbear turns into golden freddy, the same most likely happens in the games.
Yes the designs are inconsistent, but so is Scott. In every game, he likes to change the designs of the robots. For example: The withereds, the phantoms, scraptrap, scrap baby, molten freddy. So fredbear being a little different from golden freddy dosen't mean anything. And you're just looking to deep into this. Remember Mr Hippo's warning about delving in to deep into something.
Also yes, I put a lot of the Frights lore in the video. Scott never said they are supposed to be parallels like the Novel trilogy. Frights is supposed to be the aftermath of FNaF 6 and UCN.
Anyways, Thank You for commenting :)
@@sambar2772 thank you for taking the time to read and understand my original comment(s), it seems like you got the wrong impression of what I was trying to say so I want to make some clarifications.
I am not trying to debate something stupid like your examples given, I am just trying to express an epiphany I got about how fredbear and golden Freddy may or may not be related to each other and also tried to explain the one contradictory thing I saw in the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic” hypothesis because I saw it as the more believable one and felt like with the right push it could be a solid hypothesis.
Now about ucn fredbear, I saw two possibilities that fit with the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic”
1. Scott unintentionally (or intentionally sue to lazyness.) made ucn fredbear inconsistent with the lore because of an unspecified reason and just hoped no one would notice.
Or the more interesting possibility
2. Scott intentionally made ucn fredbear *extremely* similar in design to the fnaf 1 location animatronics so that he could have his cake and eat it too, as in, he could include *a* fredbear in ucn *and* not include the lore relevant version too (the one that bit the crying child and is a springlock animatronic. Although it’s debatable weather ucn fredbear is lore relevant as well, under the “golden Freddy and fredbear are not the same animatronic” assumption)
Those two possibilities come from the fact that ucn fredbear is VERY similar to a fnaf 1 location animatronic in terms of structure and character design (the only difference outside of the recoloring is that his forehead is a bit different so that it gives him “resting ticked face” outside of that they share no other differences.) I bet you 20 dollars that if you showed someone that has never heard of fnaf before a picture of fnaf 1 Bonnie and ucn fredbear and asked them if they looked like they were from the same game, that person would likely say yes. (Only having a possibly of saying no due to the “trick question” fallacy)
I’m saying that over and over again because you don’t make something that similar in design to something from 4 years ago (especially with Scott because like you said earlier, he doesn’t like to reuse models, especially before the help wanted era.) and not imply something more than surface level without it being accidental or a result of lazyness.
Onto the books, your fine with using them in your theories about the game universe, but I personally don’t like theorize about the games using evidence not found in the games too the extent you went, because I’m a basic bitch who plays it safe.
I hope that clears things up (I.e. you don’t think I’m a dumbo who thinks basic observations are theories.) in spite of the book inclusions I think this is a fine video and I think I’ll watch part two when it comes out.
P.s. I know you probably don’t want to even see the name “ucn fredbear” again but I literally just thought of one more thing that could go either way in terms of how fredbear is/isn’t fredbear. You know the method of how we even saw ucn fredbear in the first place (deathcoin golden Freddy on a night with him on ai 1 and everyone else deactivated.) it’s interesting that even though golden Freddy is fredbear (if that’s your interpretation.) it’s not golden Freddy (aka the one you should not have killed’s animatronic, we think…) that jumpscares you but it’s fredbear, and it’s only after this specific set of circumstances, that is like William defying his tormentor, that fredbear kills William instead of the animatronic that he was deathcoining, golden Freddy. This can imply that ether fredbear isn’t the same as gold Freddy because “why go through the trouble of transforming into fredbear and only in this specific set of circumstances?” And could also imply that they are the same because “why does fredbear come out only when golden Freddy is death coined and on no other occasion?” What the answer is solely relies on what Scott’s intentions were in making the fredbear jumpscare activation method what it is now, ether it was to make finding the fredbear jumpscare easier because it makes sense to find the yellow bear because of another yellow bear, or it was intended as an answer to the mystery of “how are gold freddy and fredbear related?”
Honestly I should make this a video when I figure out how to make them since typing my thoughts out is exhausting and no one but the video creator and their viewers that bother to scroll through the comment section will see it anyways.
I apologise if my previous comment sounded a bit aggressive, that was not my intention.
Anyways, like I said, ucn fredbear has no contradiction to what we know about fredbear. Yes, he probably has 4 fingers in his model, that's why Scott intentionally hid his hands. That's basically it. Fredbear has always been similar in appearance to freddy.
While yes golden freddy and fredbear have different colored hat and bowtie, we can assume that they were changed after the bite of 83.
Also, again, While yes fredbear and golden freddy have minor differences it doesn't mean they are not the same. Golden freddy is a ghost in the end of the day.
The reason I think fredbear jumpscares you after you try and death coin golden freddy, is because I think golden freddy transformed into his most powerful form, his original look, to kill Afton. While yes that does sound silly, this is the same game that has toy freddy playing five nights with Mr hugs.
Also, that would be so stupid if Scott just put a fake fredbear and not put, y'know, the real one. You think after he saw the crys and please of the fans, he would just chuck in a non-canon looking fredbear ?. Really ?.
About Frights, you can believe whatever you want about them. But the fact is, they deal with the aftermath of fnaf 6 and Andrew, who was introduced in ucn as a 7th hidden victim of Afton during '85. If you're asking where did you get that 7th victim from. The Toy chica cutscenes show, in total, 7 victims of Afton. Clearly the first is Charlotte, the other 5 are mci kids and the last one is Andrew. Frights then give us an answer on what happened to William and Andrew after ucn. Think of it as an extended epilogue.
@@sambar2772 to be honest I always like the idea or golden Freddy being a rebranded version of fredbear cuz that would make sense who would want to eat at a place that had a machine accidentally crushed a kids skull open with its mouth also I like to think they never used springlock suits in fnaf 1 or 2
Ok the flipside? Your a dsaf fan arent you???
The flipside is from FNaF World
fnaf 1 is not the first
The fnaf 1 location from the 80s was reused into fnaf 1 from the 90s
Determination, refuse
Same sentence
Youre an undertale fan arent you
I'm not 😂
@@sambar2772 sheesh, insane coincidence fr tho
Mouth noise
ive always saw that fnaf 1 is named fnaf 1 for a reason that being that is the first freddy pizzeria but it was opened twice, once before fnaf 2 and once after fnaf 2 in 1993 during fnaf 1 gameplay
You told me think about, well, I did
Now I don't wanna feel a thing no more
I'm tired of begging for the things that I want
I'm over sleeping like a dog on the floor
Imagine living like a king someday
A single night without a ghost in the walls
We are the shadows screaming "TAKE US NOW"
We'd rather die than live to rust on the ground.
This will probably be a video about MCI
It's gonna be more than just that ;)
@@sambar2772 good to hear
I really like your interpretation of events, and ESPECIALLY the fact that you used Afton's actual motives to kill Charlie and not some made-up shi about CC's death. Refreshing to see something like this.
Though I do have a theory to share here - the order children were murdered in may be a little bit different.
You see, it seems like we've had multiple hints from Scott at this point about the order of children that went missing, and the most important one is probably Chica's Highschool Years from UCN.
These cutscenes by themselfes seem to be a somewhat "mirror" of what happened in MCI:
Toy Chica, with seemingly 1 animatronic previously "taken down", goes after 6 other animatronics:
She lures the first one into her house by asking for help with her homework.
On the next day, she lures another one by telling him that his dead dog is alive.
Next one would fall into her trap, after she would say that her house was caught on fire.
Another one was lured in by the "hostages", that she made up.
Next one she attacked right inside of their own house, breaking in through the window.
For the last one, she straight up kidnaps them, by knocking them out with a shovel, and then tells them that she saved them.
The dead dog, and "a window to break in" made me think about the cutscene being connected to the MCI kids, and the order Afton lured them in.
Let's start off:
The victim that was killed by Toy Chica offscreen is Charlie - she's his TRUE first kill.
First MCI victim is... Unknown. I'll try to elaborate a bit later. This "sixth" kid is the only weak part of this theory tbh, everything else lines up perfectly.
Second victim was obviously Susie - she was the "first", she saw everything. The blonde girl was shown to be lured away by the same reasons as the second victim of Toy Chica - a dead dog.
Third one was Fritz - and I'll explain why in Gabriel's part. She was lured away by Afton telling him that the house was on fire, and friendly yellow rabbit needed help to extinguish it. Then, he was killed, and Afton stuffed her body into the Foxy suit.
Jeremy was the fourth victim - Afton lured him away into the backroom by the fake "hostages". He was stuffed into the Bonnie suit.
The fifth victim was Gabriel -
This time Afton decided to lure away a child right from their house. And who could be a better candidat to be the one, than the kid from an abusive family? We see the result of this Afton's kill in Midnight Motorist - Later that night, after the drunk father finally arrived back home, it was way past the midnight.
It started raining at this point. When he arrived at home, he noticed that his son locked himself in a room again, despite him telling not to. After a few attempts to open the door, Father investigates the child's room from outside, only to find out that he ran off to Freddy's once again. He'll be sorry when he comes back.
But, Gabriel did not come back.
He was lured away by a man in the yellow rabbit suit, all the way into Freddy's during their late hours. We can see the footprints, identical to Springtrap's mysteriously regenerated feet in FFPS. Think about it - why would Scott bring back Springbonnie's suit feet for no reason, and then use the identical footprints to his feet in the minigame, possibly related to Afton luring away a child? He wanted to show that the animatronic outside of the window - was our yellow rabbit.
Furthermore, he elaborated on this even more in FNAF HELP WANTED - Pizza Party level in the Night Terrors section is basically a recreation of that scene. We, as a Gabriel, get lured all the way from our bedroom right into the Freddy's by a man in the yellow rabbit suit. And, right before following him behind a curtian, we can see 3 suits lying in the other corners of the room:
A Chica suit,
A Foxy suit,
And a Bonnie suit, that seems to be still in repair.
That's why I theorised for Fritz to come next after Susie's death: Both of their suits are fully complete by the time Gabriel arrives, but Bonnie is still in a state of disrepair, meaning that he possible came before Gabriel.
After following the yellow rabbit, we appear on stage, holding a microphone, being presented as Freddy Fazbear himself.
Gabriel was stuffed in the Freddy suit.
The last MCI victim is Cassidy: Afton straight up kidnapped her, knocking out with a shovel. She was stuffed inside the Fredbear suit, and unlike the previous victims(Susie and THE FIRST ONE being under the question) her death inside the suit was so painful, that she was able to move it by herself. She didn't need Charlie's help, she didn't need to be "given a life", that's why she jumpscares you in "GIVE GIFTS, GIVE LIFE" before you can even do anything.
So, who's the first MCI kid that went unnoticed?
I don't know.
I have a plausible suggestion that it might be The One You Shouldn't Have Killed, an Andrew parrallel(maybe Michael Brooks) or even straight up Andrew himself, which would explain why he doesn't have an animatronic to possess - he possesses Afton(or his suit).
Though in that case, I think it would be more logical for him to be moved onto the place of last MCI victim, and Cassidy to moved onto the place of the first one - Fredbear was probably ALREADY in the backroom(Or worse, he could've used Fredbear first to lure it, and only after Cassidy he would use Springbonnies suit), so it would make sense for her to get stuffed into the springlock suit first(and die from it). And TOYSHK being the last one would make more sense - Afton is out of the suits he can hide the body into - except... except his own suit. His precious Springbonnie is the only place he could hide that last kid in. That's why TOYSHK goes on to follow Afton throughout the rest of his life - together with the springlocks that will become a part of him soon. A part that he'll never be able to take off ever again.
The part with TOYSHK sounds really weird, but its the most logical explanation I could think of.
P.S. - Gender mistakes with Fritz are intentional, I believe that the legendary four are the FNAF 4 kids that promised to be on CC's birthday due to them being place in the reversed order of how they appear in FNAF 3 Happiest Day by completing the secret minigames, that every child has some connection to, and the INSANE similarities between the girl with broken toy chica toy and Susie. Design is BASICALLY IDENTICAL, and the FNAF 4 kid actually falls in place with Toy Chica's minigame from FNAF 3, that upon completing spawns Chica's soul into the Happiest Day minigame, so here's that.
All the other kids fall in order with their souls pretty much too -
BB's air adventure spawns in Gabriel into Happiest Day, and the balloon kid from FNAF 4 falls into the chronology perfectly. Same goes for Chica kid as I explained.
Then goes the Stage 01 minigame that spawns in Fritz, and... Its a pigtail girl. Though, she talks about people going missing, which is shown in Stage 01, her design is very similar to Foxy with the reddish color-scheme and ear-like pigtails, and the gender issue could be connected to the overall gender issue of Foxes in FNAF - their gender is yes.
The last one is the plushtrap kid, with his plush springbonnie being posed somewhat similar to the Shadow Bonnie sprite in FNAF 3 in Shadow Bonnie minigame that spawns in Jeremy... Yeah, his connection is even more of a stretch, but he fits into the minigame chronology nonetheless.
I know that this way they don't line up with their movie designs, but to be fair - neither Susie's design in the movie was in line with canon Susie design, so we basically haven't seen anyone except Charlie, Cassidy and Susie.
holy hell that took long to type in. doubt anyone will read it anyway lol
wow, such a great video :) well done, bud
Thanks m8
In summary: the location opens in the early 1980s, kids died, and it closed.
The coloured bracelets being evidence for the location being Freddy’s instead of Fredbear is stupid.
4:27 maybe Scott hadn’t come up with a finalized design for fredbear yet
The one thing I don't understand is if the withereds have the victims stuffed in them. Because if they were before the 1993 animatronics of FNAF 1 then why are there missing children posters in the FNAF 1 restaurant? I also just want to believe that the 93 animatronics have the MCU stuffed in them but can't find a reasonable explanation outside that William just killed another set of random 5 kids
It's the same restaurant
A kid named Andrew dies & his spirit latches onto William? Idk where you got that but it’s an interesting theory I haven’t seen anywhere else.
Don't think andrew is canon but the rest is good
The phone guy in Five Nights at Freddy's stage for 20 years I be cranky or something like that so the timeline would be around 1987-20=1967
Firstly, Phone Guy says that in FNaF 1, which is in 1993 and Phone Guy was likely exaggerating.
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Definitely would love to see ylu tackle Jr's bc there is no way its jist a Bar. I always thought it was yhe original fnaf pizzaria (being the Jr location since Freadbears would still be open) amd the reason William was not let in was bc he was a suspect of the MCI. But if Charlie died at Freddy's then idk what it could be
Imo Jr is still Freddy's and Charlie was killed at freadbears, as I find it interesting that 1) according to UCN chica was the first so the MCI could have been going on before Charlie's death which gives reason as to why William would not be let into Freddy's and 2) the last chica cutscenes with the oig mentions a car, and a car was involved in how Charlie was killed. It also explains why she was killed the way she was, since he had no access to Freddy's at that point
@@shinymk6562still don’t believe that JR’S is one of the Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza’s locations, and was simply just a bar that William Afton used to drink at when he wasn’t around, before he possibly got into a bar fight and got kicked out. Which it’s still possibly the reason of why William Afton killed Henry’s daughter, because he was drunk, mentally unstable, and his jealousy towards Henry made him became a killer at first.
Been saying this for a while but people are dead-set on it either being a coincidence, or would rather talk about the new convoluted sci-fi pizza plex garbage.