I now live in the States but I have such fond memories of Ricardo and Absolute Sounds at the London HiFi Show in the days it was held out near Heathrow. It gave me great insight into what was possibly at the extreme high end and getting those precious tickets for the AS demo rooms was always Priority #1. I also hugely enjoyed your vinyl setup and other presentations over the years at the same show Mike. I think I must have gone every year for about 20 years. Great days. Analogue is never going away.
Great video. I bought my first record in 1969 and have stayed true to ‘vinyl’ ever since. Recently however I have considered buying a good streamer instead of buying new records. The two reasons for this are 1) I have to return 50% of new records I buy because they are faulty. The excitement of playing a new record has now become a tense session dreading the pressing faults appearing 2) the people releasing albums from the original tapes in limited reissues for £180-200. Why are they limited issues? They sell out immediately! An LP should not cost this much. Why not press enough copies to meet the demand and make them more affordable. As for the origin of the blues, there is strong evidence that the blues came from Gaelic psalm singing taken to America by Scottish immigrants. Some of the Gaelic psalm styles can then be traced back to North Africa.
@@chrisclose7793 I quite agree Chris, but it is very frustrating that after supporting the record industry for over 50 years I now wade through poor pressings looking for ok ones, pay more than ever for decent pressings and have this false exclusivity dangled in front of me. I will never pay £200 for an album that should cost no more than £50. As we say in Scotland ‘ I know when they are taking the piss’😜
@grahammcgirk8502 that's why I go to secondhand record shops as they mostly be original pressings plus I can't see why people are obsessed with substandard sounding streaming
Hum! that seems not correct , by History ,only much later without any conection to the first Scotish setlers were a more than 100 years away from what now is called blues or even the oldest recording´s don´t seem to have roots in other than african slaves
I have a theory that the majors will only licence a limited production number to the independent specialists so if a given title "takes off" they can then reissue it themselves without any competition, when the independents have already, in effect, done their market research and publicity for them at no cost or risk to their own bottom line
Fantastic time at the Warsaw AV Show 2024 with Michael Fremer, exploring analogue’s future and David Wilson’s high-end audio legacy! What’s your take on analogue’s place today? Or a favorite show moment? Drop your comment below.
Thanks for telling the truth about these reissues, so many in the last year are warped and noisy, I can't understand miles shoals not checking that most of his remaster are total crap. also at the moment there so many coloured vinyl are being released. there are all or mostly total crap. very good discussion.
Vinyl records are here to stay. Their sourcing doesn't matter so much anymore. The digital medium has improved over the years, and if done properly, digitally sourced records can sound analog. Do the reissues sound better than the OGs? That has to be judged from pressing to pressing. Sometimes no, sometimes yes, and sometimes it's just a matter of preference. Another question to ask about vinyl sales is, are they referring to how much money was taken in or are they referring to how many units sold?
In some analog domains now after years of study reveling more negative effect than positive one of the digital during the analog process, they have literally created law in certain country to forbidden it during the analog activity. A good starting thinking point for most of the mastering studio!
I appreciate your points about perception of music depending on speaker performance - it is fundamental because only unique perfect reproduction frees deepest emaotions. of real coexistene.with performance
The British Invasion allowed black music to be played in the US. I was a "greaser" in the '70's. White suburban kid that listened to R&B. James Brown, Wilson Picket, Otis Redding... But the Brits allowed the real US blues players to get on stage.
If we currently have a problem with low quality pressings and reissues how could we expect a solid return of vinyl, specially for younger generations? Not to mention the prices!?! First pressings are hard to get and extremely expensive. These two factors might lead to the vinyl ressurgence to be just a fad and completely unsustainable, even with a price correction in the long run.
First of all, not all late pressed records are poor quality. There are many websites you can check to verify this. So, the argument isn’t really valid unless you’re only considering first pressings.
One should warn people about the origin of the source material (tape vs. digital). There should indeed be some kind of labeling like in nutrition. Fremer is right about some things, listening for pleasure or analysis. I wonder, has he ever listened to a Strauss MF 4?
Some protagonists see the figure of 33% reduction in sales. Maybe in the USA. Not where I live in Essex, UK. Vinyl and analogue are here to stay. Any statement of alleged fact needs to be confirmed. Long live Analogue. Long live Vinyl.
Totally agree vinyl is way more superior sounding and speaking to my local dealer they were saying turntable sales are through the roof and streamer sales are down and the reason behind it is due to people being aware that artists get virtually paid nothing for streaming and vinyl and cd sales the artists make a fortune,
Mister fermer doesn't tackle the real problem that records become too expensive, i hear it all over the place ! To pay 35-40 usd for a record that contains only 35 minutes of music is a ripoff and the quality isn't always there , mediocre sound and quality control issues, scratched dirty and wrapped records. No wonder more and more people turn to other options like streaming and Cd's. Mr fermer lives in a denial state of mind , he is representing the record industry . He doesn't understand that it becomes unaffordable to many. You can buy good used cd's for pennies or stream it on music services or TH-cam. It's only the beginning of the downward trend . Labels got too gredy .
When Michael mentions watching the bands on CBS on Saturday morning he hits it on the head. I watch the same news show and there is no excitement in the groups today. It’s all the same whiney music.
For most of the studios i've seen there just making integrity loss, and sound degradation. For them the file is the source. As everyone know, digital sound is no good, so they enter the whole thing in an analog chain, to hide digital noise, colour it, etc. Then instead of putting it on tape, to make a true print! They reinsert the whole mixture into ADC. (loosing most the analog chain, and reintroducing new digital noise) In order to really kill the source integrity and sound, they add sometimes plug-ins. (mathematically error quantifying the whole thing) Finally a new DAC (most of the time it's not the same as the first DAC one, adding even more new digital noise) into pre-amps for printing/writing vinyl/tape. Really insane complex process to think those are making our cheap analog music support listening! Fortunately there are real pro which use a tape and a very simple analog processing direct to vinyl/tape! Try to find where is the error in the 90% cheap process!
@@scottwheeler2679 Bad is also totally transparent as digital! Good is absolutely non transparent as analog! Doing thing right is not using digital because it's bad! Colour yourself, you're life will be better than in white and black (0/1) When i record a tape whatever i do it sound always right, that's good, that's not transparent, that's analog and i just play rec on the deck!
@@anonymex22 If you personally like distortion then digital is "bad" for you personally. Your personal preference for distortion is not a universal truth. Your analogy to black and white is nonsensical. True transparency allows all the colors to come through undistorted. Nothing wrong with liking distortion. But confusing your personal preferences with universal truths is a grand mistake.
For ressources and economical purposes, digital like a worm in the apple in slowly destroying/ruining every analog domains! Support analog sound before you will just be able to remember that it has existed. Like the now dead analog video domain! Unfortunately too late even if support is going up for compagnies to have a chance to revive it. (Please make me wrong on the revival analog video domain. Having the pleasure to listen to vinyl, tape, cassette, etc, help me support this awfull time. Living in a only a digital era is certainly the worst time i ever experienced despite some advantage in my life, save your child the are literately experiencing matrix, wally, etc...)
@@scottwheeler2679 No absolutely not! Do you think that only audio does have integrity loss, quantification error, protocol limitation, etc, a good svhs or ld procure a more enjoyable experience correctly scanned at 1080i on a crt, despite 480p source, there was HD analog video but they never push the thing publicly (WVHS/Muse). Digital is really different for audio , video and picture in fact every domain that it touch! Frankly HD digital is near CRT vhs 1080i scanned for me!!! People have just forgotten how good is a crt and how much great is a continuous video signal! That's what i already told, without the choice people are alienated! No digital isn't better, it's different and clearly badder for me in all domains! Up to communication, i hate typing on a keyboard, voice com are clearly the best, but where are the analog line, only fake smart phone deforming every voice, adding noise echo pb, youtube video, with same deforming, nothing close to original when you get the person in reality close to you! A flail. Digital , tell me who don't have any pb during one day using this frustrating, boring, in-interesting tech??? Just compare recording of a vhs process vs transcoding of a digital movie, a nightmare! Just compare the process recording a reel to recording a wav, a nightmare Just compare the process regarding sound creation analog synth vs digital, a nightmare! In fact digital is a nightmare! everything is funnier , procure more joy in analog and gratification! Life is just better without this tech, different, but just better! it's not strange to see more an more stage/trip/activities without this tech! Frankly who will really spend hours of frustrating experiences stuck behind a screen keyboard and mouse, if he could make everything on analog as easy as in the past!!! I 'm musician, i must make everything physical, because i don't want anymore doing this activity on digital, because a nightmare! I'm video editor, i use svhs because i'm fed up of video trans coding during days,and codec protocol, audio sync... A nightmare! Mathematics and related domain (digital) are know for being a nightmare! Each day is just a nightmare sitting behind a screen 12H/day..., thinking like a developer to achieve something!
@@anonymex22 I worked with 1" video extensively. It was utter garbage compared to even the earliest digital video media. There are TV series from the 80s and 90s that don't get BluRay releases because they were finished on what was state of the art 3/4" video at the time. All the BluRay shows over DVD format is just how bad video was. Digital made video utterly obsolete. We weren't so sensitive to it back in the day because we had nothing better to compare it to and our CRT monitors had nowhere near the resolution or gamut range of todays state of the art large scale flat screens. You may as well be singing the praises of mules and carts over modern day automobiles.
@@scottwheeler2679 You're dreaming crt still better than any digital screen, phosphore and cathode ray way better! Oled the closest is 100 times slower! DVD is awfull blocky like hell and mixed digital/pal format with mp3 audio! Bluray start too look right like VHS as i said but 100 time slower with 32*32 pixel block and no noise; completely dead and still with digital low fi sound. Just a vhs hifi dolpy prologic 2 (5.1) explode the audio of the latest one! We certainly don't see the same things! Like for digital audio where they are the same arguments! Spec aren't important, but the way how is working the tech, audio video, whatever you want digital is sampling mathematical, codec, etc nothing related to the domain it emulate! Analog is Faithfull continuous signal, it contains no binary data! Analog as i said for video can go with the last WVHS easily to 1100i in raw data! 3000TVL crt screen were existing before you understood how much they fooled your eyes with UHD HDR twenty year later, and how much they stealth your money before descent extortionate oled screen appears! Analog with today tech would destroy digital without any doubt! I use special digital algorithm to fasten the thing but it require a power horse machine, and the now 64*64px block of x265 can't be removed and is much slower. Digital use psycho-visual artefact, but it look really crazy terrible, only color, no texture, vectoriel animation, real res about 320*160pixel block for 1440P Yeah when you look at a movie at 1fps per second in the analyser, it's disgusting, totally fake, you can see the pixel dithering, color rainbow, fake skin, etc... Chance that user look 25fps without taking time analysing frame from a ratio distance about 4:1! Clearly people who don't make digital video processing can't really see how bad it is! Same thing like audio i can assure you, but you certainly don't have the device now to really compare! I got the two, and no definitively not better, different, and digital has for him the chance that analog video wasn't pushed more! This said again i enjoy more the movie when available in analog support of course with the bandwidth doubled on CRT gridless. Perhaps less small detail who nobody care but everything else better , as the sound! You can't understand what is it a screen without pixel or grid until you get one! Like people can't understand how good is a rtr until you get one! Before having a trinitron grid less HD three tube and a RTR/Vinyl, i too thought, that cd and bd were good, but no anymore, i can't ear and watch them without doing drastically improvement on the binary data of those crap support!
@@anonymex22 I work in the film industry. I have directly compared my work on the various media to my personal actual original work. Video is garbage as are CRT monitors. The film industry left them both behind for very very very good reasons
To me it's f***ing ridiculous that people would stop buying record's because of these "people" (I'm trying to be nice here) putting out this stupid story about being down "33" 😉 percent, but people do have a "heard" mentality! Saying that, I think analogue is too damn good for people to stop buying because of something so dumb! Analogue is not going anywhere, and will live long after us! Matter of fact analog is improving even more !😊
Fremer only believes in the statistics he falsified himself. It is the same heutistic value he tries to blame the journalist for. I do not think the journalist or published webzine (which is not quoted on neither) is trying to killing anything, they report empirical data that might say nothing about real consumer behaviour in the end. Vinyl is a trend which will disappear because digital sounds better and better and is more convenient. Vinyl can sound very good on a certain system and can suck likewise. It is up to personal taste. As a data storage format vinyl is okay enough. In modern world it more and more loses its legitimacy due to modern production methods. That might habe been different in the past.
Many people have over the last 3 decades, said that vinyl was on it's way out & it was inferior to digital. In many ways to quote you, it is "is more convenient", but yet it refuses to go & is preferred by many people, as it is a physical thing you own. Transistors were declared as being the tube/valve killer in amps, but yet tube/valve amps are in abundance. My own system is very decent on both the LP & digital front, it is not in the 100K plus bracket, but still very decent, but I don't connect or enjoy in the same way if I were to listen to an album in digital against the LP. My wife who has been medically certified with 95% hearing loss in her right ear, was listening with me one afternoon recently for several hours & then said, know I know why you, ie myself, prefer to listen to LPs. That says a lot, when someone with severe hearing loss can identify the audible differences. Like digital photographic files, digital music files are by their nature unsafe. For no reason at all, files can corrupt & become useless, or the CDs start to degrade. Streaming providers come & go & file formats are changed & then rendered useless, an LP, is a physical thing that will continue to exist.
Vinyl is a trend? By that reasoning the human species is a trend. Commercial recorded music has been around for 136 years. The "vinyl trend" has now been going one for about 30 years since vinyl hit rock bottom. What sounds better is a matter of personal preference. Digital is more accurate but what you prefer or I prefer or even Mikey prefers is inarguable. There is nothing about "modern production methods" that delegitimizes vinyl. "Modern production methods" are better than ever. Vinyl doesn't need your validation or anyone else's other than those who are buying it.
I now live in the States but I have such fond memories of Ricardo and Absolute Sounds at the London HiFi Show in the days it was held out near Heathrow. It gave me great insight into what was possibly at the extreme high end and getting those precious tickets for the AS demo rooms was always Priority #1. I also hugely enjoyed your vinyl setup and other presentations over the years at the same show Mike. I think I must have gone every year for about 20 years. Great days. Analogue is never going away.
Great video. I bought my first record in 1969 and have stayed true to ‘vinyl’ ever since. Recently however I have considered buying a good streamer instead of buying new records. The two reasons for this are 1) I have to return 50% of new records I buy because they are faulty. The excitement of playing a new record has now become a tense session dreading the pressing faults appearing 2) the people releasing albums from the original tapes in limited reissues for £180-200. Why are they limited issues? They sell out immediately! An LP should not cost this much. Why not press enough copies to meet the demand and make them more affordable. As for the origin of the blues, there is strong evidence that the blues came from Gaelic psalm singing taken to America by Scottish immigrants. Some of the Gaelic psalm styles can then be traced back to North Africa.
Don't do it as a streamer and streaming Is substandard sounding I find vinyl is superior sounding
@@chrisclose7793 I quite agree Chris, but it is very frustrating that after supporting the record industry for over 50 years I now wade through poor pressings looking for ok ones, pay more than ever for decent pressings and have this false exclusivity dangled in front of me. I will never pay £200 for an album that should cost no more than £50. As we say in Scotland ‘ I know when they are taking the piss’😜
@grahammcgirk8502 that's why I go to secondhand record shops as they mostly be original pressings plus I can't see why people are obsessed with substandard sounding streaming
Hum! that seems not correct , by History ,only much later without any conection to the first Scotish setlers were a more than 100 years away from what now is called blues or even the oldest recording´s don´t seem to have roots in other than african slaves
I have a theory that the majors will only licence a limited production number to the independent specialists so if a given title "takes off" they can then reissue it themselves without any competition, when the independents have already, in effect, done their market research and publicity for them at no cost or risk to their own bottom line
Fantastic time at the Warsaw AV Show 2024 with Michael Fremer, exploring analogue’s future and David Wilson’s high-end audio legacy! What’s your take on analogue’s place today? Or a favorite show moment? Drop your comment below.
So where can I get the record?
Thanks for telling the truth about these reissues, so many in the last year are warped and noisy, I can't understand miles shoals not checking that most of his remaster are total crap. also at the moment there so many coloured vinyl are being released. there are all or mostly total crap. very good discussion.
Vinyl records are here to stay. Their sourcing doesn't matter so much anymore. The digital medium has improved over the years, and if done properly, digitally sourced records can sound analog. Do the reissues sound better than the OGs? That has to be judged from pressing to pressing. Sometimes no, sometimes yes, and sometimes it's just a matter of preference. Another question to ask about vinyl sales is, are they referring to how much money was taken in or are they referring to how many units sold?
In some analog domains now after years of study reveling more negative effect than positive one of the digital during the analog process, they have literally created law in certain country to forbidden it during the analog activity. A good starting thinking point for most of the mastering studio!
I appreciate your points about perception of music depending on speaker performance - it is fundamental because only unique perfect reproduction frees deepest emaotions.
of real coexistene.with performance
Fremer is the best. Let the critics keep their music to themselves.
Love it
And I travelled the S.E. doing clinics re-biasing cassette decks for Maxell over TDK in the 70's! 🙂
The British Invasion allowed black music to be played in the US. I was a "greaser" in the '70's. White suburban kid that listened to R&B. James Brown, Wilson Picket, Otis Redding... But the Brits allowed the real US blues players to get on stage.
If we currently have a problem with low quality pressings and reissues how could we expect a solid return of vinyl, specially for younger generations? Not to mention the prices!?! First pressings are hard to get and extremely expensive. These two factors might lead to the vinyl ressurgence to be just a fad and completely unsustainable, even with a price correction in the long run.
First of all, not all late pressed records are poor quality. There are many websites you can check to verify this. So, the argument isn’t really valid unless you’re only considering first pressings.
Fremer is a legend in his own mind.
whatever you say, no subscribers
@@trackingangle929 Your subscribers are all Malachi fake accounts.
@@mikrophonie5633 how doubly sad for you to even think that.
@@trackingangle929 At least I'm capable of thinking, unlike you.
One should warn people about the origin of the source material (tape vs. digital). There should indeed be some kind of labeling like in nutrition. Fremer is right about some things, listening for pleasure or analysis. I wonder, has he ever listened to a Strauss MF 4?
The subtitles are so off lol
For me, analogue has a natural flow and fluidity that current digital still can't match....haven't heard Varese.
Yes , maybe if they forget the 70´s first digital format it will be nice, but i don´t see that hapening
The more money I make the less I want to spend it on albums $30 or more. Funny how that works. Doing more used cds again🤷🏽♂️
A $4.98 record in 1968 would cost $30+ today. Calling $30 expensive is a myth perpetrated by "old people" forgetting about inflation.
Some protagonists see the figure of 33% reduction in sales. Maybe in the USA. Not where I live in Essex, UK. Vinyl and analogue are here to stay.
Any statement of alleged fact needs to be confirmed.
Long live Analogue. Long live Vinyl.
Totally agree vinyl is way more superior sounding and speaking to my local dealer they were saying turntable sales are through the roof and streamer sales are down and the reason behind it is due to people being aware that artists get virtually paid nothing for streaming and vinyl and cd sales the artists make a fortune,
Fremer is a legend 😂😂😂
Mister fermer doesn't tackle the real problem that records become too expensive, i hear it all over the place ! To pay 35-40 usd for a record that contains only 35 minutes of music is a ripoff and the quality isn't always there , mediocre sound and quality control issues, scratched dirty and wrapped records.
No wonder more and more people turn to other options like streaming and Cd's.
Mr fermer lives in a denial state of mind , he is representing the record industry .
He doesn't understand that it becomes unaffordable to many.
You can buy good used cd's for pennies or stream it on music services or TH-cam.
It's only the beginning of the downward trend .
Labels got too gredy .
Sorry, the Price will be death the te of the vinyl industrie
Yes vinyl is rather expensive.
I You put it in relation to inflation, You will see, that there is not THAT much a difference to earlier days
Bad remasters are the MASSIVE PROB.... DIGITAL REMASTERS IN PARTICULAR
A good kums table completely destroys any digital setup in every way
In 2024 my personal record purchases skyrocketed by 100%. No joke folks.
If the vinyl Community keeks on charging the face that there charging it will be the devant of vinyl
When Michael mentions watching the bands on CBS on Saturday morning he hits it on the head. I watch the same news show and there is no excitement in the groups today. It’s all the same whiney music.
I love fremer , he's right on wealth inequality too ..
I think the remasters sound way too processed hence its better by original albums,but vinyl is far superior than the awful streaming
For most of the studios i've seen there just making integrity loss, and sound degradation.
For them the file is the source.
As everyone know, digital sound is no good, so they enter the whole thing in an analog chain, to hide digital noise, colour it, etc.
Then instead of putting it on tape, to make a true print!
They reinsert the whole mixture into ADC. (loosing most the analog chain, and reintroducing new digital noise)
In order to really kill the source integrity and sound, they add sometimes plug-ins. (mathematically error quantifying the whole thing)
Finally a new DAC (most of the time it's not the same as the first DAC one, adding even more new digital noise) into pre-amps for printing/writing vinyl/tape.
Really insane complex process to think those are making our cheap analog music support listening!
Fortunately there are real pro which use a tape and a very simple analog processing direct to vinyl/tape!
Try to find where is the error in the 90% cheap process!
Digital done right is audibly transparent. This urban legend that digital is bad is actually causing inferior records to be made. That's a shame
@@scottwheeler2679 Bad is also totally transparent as digital!
Good is absolutely non transparent as analog!
Doing thing right is not using digital because it's bad!
Colour yourself, you're life will be better than in white and black (0/1)
When i record a tape whatever i do it sound always right, that's good, that's not transparent, that's analog and i just play rec on the deck!
@@anonymex22 If you personally like distortion then digital is "bad" for you personally. Your personal preference for distortion is not a universal truth. Your analogy to black and white is nonsensical. True transparency allows all the colors to come through undistorted. Nothing wrong with liking distortion. But confusing your personal preferences with universal truths is a grand mistake.
For ressources and economical purposes, digital like a worm in the apple in slowly destroying/ruining every analog domains!
Support analog sound before you will just be able to remember that it has existed.
Like the now dead analog video domain!
Unfortunately too late even if support is going up for compagnies to have a chance to revive it.
(Please make me wrong on the revival analog video domain. Having the pleasure to listen to vinyl, tape, cassette, etc, help me support this awfull time. Living in a only a digital era is certainly the worst time i ever experienced despite some advantage in my life, save your child the are literately experiencing matrix, wally, etc...)
This is a joke right? Video?
@@scottwheeler2679 No absolutely not! Do you think that only audio does have integrity loss, quantification error, protocol limitation, etc, a good svhs or ld procure a more enjoyable experience correctly scanned at 1080i on a crt, despite 480p source, there was HD analog video but they never push the thing publicly (WVHS/Muse).
Digital is really different for audio , video and picture in fact every domain that it touch!
Frankly HD digital is near CRT vhs 1080i scanned for me!!!
People have just forgotten how good is a crt and how much great is a continuous video signal!
That's what i already told, without the choice people are alienated!
No digital isn't better, it's different and clearly badder for me in all domains!
Up to communication, i hate typing on a keyboard, voice com are clearly the best, but where are the analog line, only fake smart phone deforming every voice, adding noise echo pb, youtube video, with same deforming, nothing close to original when you get the person in reality close to you!
A flail.
Digital , tell me who don't have any pb during one day using this frustrating, boring, in-interesting tech???
Just compare recording of a vhs process vs transcoding of a digital movie, a nightmare!
Just compare the process recording a reel to recording a wav, a nightmare
Just compare the process regarding sound creation analog synth vs digital, a nightmare!
In fact digital is a nightmare! everything is funnier , procure more joy in analog and gratification! Life is just better without this tech, different, but just better!
it's not strange to see more an more stage/trip/activities without this tech!
Frankly who will really spend hours of frustrating experiences stuck behind a screen keyboard and mouse, if he could make everything on analog as easy as in the past!!!
I 'm musician, i must make everything physical, because i don't want anymore doing this activity on digital, because a nightmare!
I'm video editor, i use svhs because i'm fed up of video trans coding during days,and codec protocol, audio sync... A nightmare!
Mathematics and related domain (digital) are know for being a nightmare!
Each day is just a nightmare sitting behind a screen 12H/day..., thinking like a developer to achieve something!
@@anonymex22 I worked with 1" video extensively. It was utter garbage compared to even the earliest digital video media. There are TV series from the 80s and 90s that don't get BluRay releases because they were finished on what was state of the art 3/4" video at the time. All the BluRay shows over DVD format is just how bad video was. Digital made video utterly obsolete. We weren't so sensitive to it back in the day because we had nothing better to compare it to and our CRT monitors had nowhere near the resolution or gamut range of todays state of the art large scale flat screens. You may as well be singing the praises of mules and carts over modern day automobiles.
@@scottwheeler2679 You're dreaming crt still better than any digital screen, phosphore and cathode ray way better!
Oled the closest is 100 times slower!
DVD is awfull blocky like hell and mixed digital/pal format with mp3 audio!
Bluray start too look right like VHS as i said but 100 time slower with 32*32 pixel block and no noise; completely dead and still with digital low fi sound.
Just a vhs hifi dolpy prologic 2 (5.1) explode the audio of the latest one!
We certainly don't see the same things!
Like for digital audio where they are the same arguments!
Spec aren't important, but the way how is working the tech, audio video, whatever you want digital is sampling mathematical, codec, etc nothing related to the domain it emulate!
Analog is Faithfull continuous signal, it contains no binary data!
Analog as i said for video can go with the last WVHS easily to 1100i in raw data!
3000TVL crt screen were existing before you understood how much they fooled your eyes with UHD HDR twenty year later, and how much they stealth your money before descent extortionate oled screen appears!
Analog with today tech would destroy digital without any doubt!
I use special digital algorithm to fasten the thing but it require a power horse machine, and the now 64*64px block of x265 can't be removed and is much slower. Digital use psycho-visual artefact, but it look really crazy terrible, only color, no texture, vectoriel animation, real res about 320*160pixel block for 1440P
Yeah when you look at a movie at 1fps per second in the analyser, it's disgusting, totally fake, you can see the pixel dithering, color rainbow, fake skin, etc...
Chance that user look 25fps without taking time analysing frame from a ratio distance about 4:1!
Clearly people who don't make digital video processing can't really see how bad it is!
Same thing like audio i can assure you, but you certainly don't have the device now to really compare!
I got the two, and no definitively not better, different, and digital has for him the chance that analog video wasn't pushed more!
This said again i enjoy more the movie when available in analog support of course with the bandwidth doubled on CRT gridless. Perhaps less small detail who nobody care but everything else better , as the sound!
You can't understand what is it a screen without pixel or grid until you get one!
Like people can't understand how good is a rtr until you get one!
Before having a trinitron grid less HD three tube and a RTR/Vinyl, i too thought, that cd and bd were good, but no anymore, i can't ear and watch them without doing drastically improvement on the binary data of those crap support!
@@anonymex22 I work in the film industry. I have directly compared my work on the various media to my personal actual original work. Video is garbage as are CRT monitors. The film industry left them both behind for very very very good reasons
To me it's f***ing ridiculous that people would stop buying record's because of these "people" (I'm trying to be nice here) putting out this stupid story about being down "33" 😉 percent, but people do have a "heard" mentality! Saying that, I think analogue is too damn good for people to stop buying because of something so dumb! Analogue is not going anywhere, and will live long after us! Matter of fact analog is improving even more !😊
The issue isn't consumers reacting. It's distributors and sellers possibly reacting.
No, it’s fading away…….
sorry but it is not
Fremer only believes in the statistics he falsified himself. It is the same heutistic value he tries to blame the journalist for. I do not think the journalist or published webzine (which is not quoted on neither) is trying to killing anything, they report empirical data that might say nothing about real consumer behaviour in the end. Vinyl is a trend which will disappear because digital sounds better and better and is more convenient. Vinyl can sound very good on a certain system and can suck likewise. It is up to personal taste. As a data storage format vinyl is okay enough. In modern world it more and more loses its legitimacy due to modern production methods. That might habe been different in the past.
Many people have over the last 3 decades, said that vinyl was on it's way out & it was inferior to digital. In many ways to quote you, it is "is more convenient", but yet it refuses to go & is preferred by many people, as it is a physical thing you own. Transistors were declared as being the tube/valve killer in amps, but yet tube/valve amps are in abundance.
My own system is very decent on both the LP & digital front, it is not in the 100K plus bracket, but still very decent, but I don't connect or enjoy in the same way if I were to listen to an album in digital against the LP. My wife who has been medically certified with 95% hearing loss in her right ear, was listening with me one afternoon recently for several hours & then said, know I know why you, ie myself, prefer to listen to LPs. That says a lot, when someone with severe hearing loss can identify the audible differences.
Like digital photographic files, digital music files are by their nature unsafe. For no reason at all, files can corrupt & become useless, or the CDs start to degrade. Streaming providers come & go & file formats are changed & then rendered useless, an LP, is a physical thing that will continue to exist.
Vinyl is a trend? By that reasoning the human species is a trend. Commercial recorded music has been around for 136 years. The "vinyl trend" has now been going one for about 30 years since vinyl hit rock bottom. What sounds better is a matter of personal preference. Digital is more accurate but what you prefer or I prefer or even Mikey prefers is inarguable. There is nothing about "modern production methods" that delegitimizes vinyl. "Modern production methods" are better than ever. Vinyl doesn't need your validation or anyone else's other than those who are buying it.
I believe in the actual statistics presented by the industry at all of the Making Vinyl B2B conferences I attend. You really haven't a clue.