You just helped me out a lot. I didn't realize there was just a "plain" grip damper. I thought it was only Grip 2 and FIT 4. I almost put the wrong oil in. Have you ever taken the air spring rod and pistons out of the bottom? Mine had way too much grease. I also found that there wasn't any oil in in top of the air chamber. I am adding 3oz per the oil volume service chart. I also found out there is four tokens in my air chamber from the factory. I am pulling one out as I am not that aggressive of a rider. Will be interesting if it smooths the trail out a little more.
Thank you for the video of all those I saw, you were the only one who explained precisely the type and amount of oil to be used, the instructions on the official Fox website are not very clear, thanks
Great video. I was wondering if you could slide the upper into the lower with the fork seals and everything already mounted on the fork tube. Then lining them up wouldn't be so tricky. I'm sure that's the easiest way to damage the seal trying to get those two together without scratching the seal. Either way interesting. I've done them before but not the newest ones
@@PedalingDave Oh ok, i asked also because i don't see anyone showing it. So basically i just have to unscrew the top cap with a 26mm tool. This is where eventually you can put the spacer, right? Just add 3cc and close again. No air or any important operations has to be done?
Not sure if you will respond but just got a bike and noticed some oil where you would connect the shock pump in the little bowl underneath the cap that protects the valve from dirt best way I can to describe it. is that a problem I did have the bike upside down as I was doing a wipe down cleaning not sure if gravity would cause this. Bike is Specialized Fuse Expert 2022 with the Fox 34 Rhythm Float front shock. Thanks
It could be that the valve core in the fork is loose allowing some oil to escape but if that were the case, it might not hold air either. It's likely not an issue if it's a small amount of oil and the fork holds air. The air chamber typically gets 3ml of oil added on certain fox forks. Check ridefox.com for yours of course. I'd suggest cleaning it up really well with alcohol, set air pressure, and give it a ride to get the fork moving through its travel. If no more oil is found and the fork works normally, (I can only guess) its probably fine. If in any doubt, take it to a bike shop for inspection!
Depends on the damper installed. If it calls for 5wt PTFE on ridefox.com then no, it would not be ok. Check www.ridefox.com for your specific year and make. Cheers🍻
Air springs within the air chamber are only held in by a clip that keeps the spring from popping out. Greased O Rings are the only thing putting pressure on the inside of the stantions...so it's easy for the air spring to potentially rotate. As far as freeing the lowers from the dampener and air spring by hitting with a socket goes, their isn't any danger unless one were to go nuts and wail on it. I just gave it a solid tap and have been using this method for years.
I've had that issue with the air spring side but not the damper. Typically I'd add a little air to keep the air spring from spinning. I'm not sure how to advise you on this one but you might start the nut on the damper. Tighten the air side and add a little air so that the lowers add pressure to the nut and then see if that allows you to tighten without it spinning? Just a thought and I have no idea if that would work.
@@PedalingDave so what I learned. I wasn’t using a torque wrench, just perceived torque. I procured a torque wrench and set it to the 50in lbs that is called out. I was able to adequately tighten to the spec without the rotation of the damper shaft. I’m glad I have a nice wrench for bike work now haha.
I did lower leg service on my Rhythm 36. After that i measured stanchions and they r 175 mm instead of 160...wtf? Same amount of oils and air before service. Fork performs nicely but im still a bit worried..did i forgot something? 🤷
Did you measure prior to the service and sure it measured 160mm?? If so I don't know what's up with that! Maybe it was sucked down into its travel and you weren't aware?
@@PedalingDave No did not checked it before service but then again it is 160 mm fork so i assume that it was around 160 mm when i bought it,well it came with the bike. It is this year model btw
@@enjoylife756 I would say that is normal, I have identical Fork as the one in video 170mm travel, and stanchions are round 180mm, since Fox bottoms out around 1cm before the crown, it will never allow to hit it I think
What are the maintenance projects that you have the most issues with?
Very good video and an important statement about the confusing informations on the fox-page. Thank you and well done!
Glad it helped and thanks 🙌
You just helped me out a lot. I didn't realize there was just a "plain" grip damper. I thought it was only Grip 2 and FIT 4. I almost put the wrong oil in.
Have you ever taken the air spring rod and pistons out of the bottom? Mine had way too much grease. I also found that there wasn't any oil in in top of the air chamber. I am adding 3oz per the oil volume service chart. I also found out there is four tokens in my air chamber from the factory. I am pulling one out as I am not that aggressive of a rider. Will be interesting if it smooths the trail out a little more.
The amount of grease inside of my airspring was crazy thick as well. I hear this a lot from fox owners.
Glad the video helped you out!
I have nearly the same fork and almost followed the FIT4 Chart for my fork. Damn good thing I watched this video! Thank you for posting 😎
I'm very glad it helped you out 👍
Thank you for the video of all those I saw, you were the only one who explained precisely the type and amount of oil to be used, the instructions on the official Fox website are not very clear, thanks
Ordering the right part the right time.... easily the hardest part of maintenance.
Truth!
Great video. I was wondering if you could slide the upper into the lower with the fork seals and everything already mounted on the fork tube. Then lining them up wouldn't be so tricky. I'm sure that's the easiest way to damage the seal trying to get those two together without scratching the seal. Either way interesting. I've done them before but not the newest ones
Possibly I suppose. I could see Push seals working like that over factory Fox seals.
Hi, thanks for the video. But what about the 3cc in the air chamber?
Yes, I missed showing that in the video...but you are correct. I added 3cc 20 weight gold in the air chamber.
@@PedalingDave Oh ok, i asked also because i don't see anyone showing it. So basically i just have to unscrew the top cap with a 26mm tool. This is where eventually you can put the spacer, right? Just add 3cc and close again. No air or any important operations has to be done?
Yes, That will work great!!
I just took the valve core out and added the 3cc.
Thanks for this video man!! keep it up :)
Very informative video Dave! thanks, stay safe!
Thanks Andrew! Ready to hit 2021 wide open!
Not sure if you will respond but just got a bike and noticed some oil where you would connect the shock pump in the little bowl underneath the cap that protects the valve from dirt best way I can to describe it. is that a problem I did have the bike upside down as I was doing a wipe down cleaning not sure if gravity would cause this. Bike is Specialized Fuse Expert 2022 with the Fox 34 Rhythm Float front shock. Thanks
It could be that the valve core in the fork is loose allowing some oil to escape but if that were the case, it might not hold air either.
It's likely not an issue if it's a small amount of oil and the fork holds air. The air chamber typically gets 3ml of oil added on certain fox forks. Check ridefox.com for yours of course.
I'd suggest cleaning it up really well with alcohol, set air pressure, and give it a ride to get the fork moving through its travel. If no more oil is found and the fork works normally, (I can only guess) its probably fine.
If in any doubt, take it to a bike shop for inspection!
@@PedalingDave Thanks appreciate the response.
Every how many months before you gonna put oil for the fork thu ?
Thanks for the video! I have the same fork but 34. Do you think 20wt gold would be Ok for damper side as well?
Depends on the damper installed.
If it calls for 5wt PTFE on ridefox.com then no, it would not be ok.
Check www.ridefox.com for your specific year and make.
Cheers🍻
I wouldn't strike on the soft alu nuts with a socket between. Maybe earlier damage to the nut caused the air shaft to rotate?
Air springs within the air chamber are only held in by a clip that keeps the spring from popping out.
Greased O Rings are the only thing putting pressure on the inside of the stantions...so it's easy for the air spring to potentially rotate.
As far as freeing the lowers from the dampener and air spring by hitting with a socket goes, their isn't any danger unless one were to go nuts and wail on it. I just gave it a solid tap and have been using this method for years.
Nice vid cheers
When trying to install/torque the damper nut, the damper rod spins not allowing to to properly torque it. Have you encountered this before?
I've had that issue with the air spring side but not the damper.
Typically I'd add a little air to keep the air spring from spinning.
I'm not sure how to advise you on this one but you might start the nut on the damper. Tighten the air side and add a little air so that the lowers add pressure to the nut and then see if that allows you to tighten without it spinning?
Just a thought and I have no idea if that would work.
@@PedalingDave thank you
@@PedalingDave so what I learned. I wasn’t using a torque wrench, just perceived torque. I procured a torque wrench and set it to the 50in lbs that is called out. I was able to adequately tighten to the spec without the rotation of the damper shaft. I’m glad I have a nice wrench for bike work now haha.
I did lower leg service on my Rhythm 36. After that i measured stanchions and they r 175 mm instead of 160...wtf? Same amount of oils and air before service. Fork performs nicely but im still a bit worried..did i forgot something? 🤷
Did you measure prior to the service and sure it measured 160mm??
If so I don't know what's up with that!
Maybe it was sucked down into its travel and you weren't aware?
@@PedalingDave No did not checked it before service but then again it is 160 mm fork so i assume that it was around 160 mm when i bought it,well it came with the bike. It is this year model btw
@@enjoylife756 I would say that is normal, I have identical Fork as the one in video 170mm travel, and stanchions are round 180mm, since Fox bottoms out around 1cm before the crown, it will never allow to hit it I think