AudioControl is the number #1 car audio company that stays ahead of the game than any other car audio manufactures. Keep up the good work AudioControl.
It really works well, the only wish I have maybe is instead of just having sweep on dial, I wish it would show the frequency range like on an amplifier.
Epicenter is legendary status nothing else compares. The old school Phoenix Gold Bass Cube and MTX LSB1 are badass in their own way, but nothing what an epicenter does.
I was literally about to order the audiocontrol lc2i and the epicenter! I’m so glad I watched this video! I’m going to wait for this new epicenter now!
I hope they put a clipping light on the knob, we don't need power lights to hear that our subs are on. 2 lights every amp knob should have clipping input and clipping output. A volt meter is always nice to....
10:00 if it saved on space then we wouldn't need both Epicenter and this Epicenter micro. I recall him saying this is not to replace your Epicenter but adds to it. AudioControl should have created a new micro Epicenter as they did with LC7i » LC2i Pro, LC1i, etc.
You know that you're talking with a GREAT Rep. when he's almost giddy talking about the brand/products. LOL, Dean has a "Fernando" and a "Fernando Micro" in his line-up. Good young fella you have, Fernando!
That thing is even smaller than the LC2i in my Mercedes. Thats awesome. I'm not a fan of the signal sense remote turn on tho. Every time I locked my doors, my amp would turn on. So I stuck to the old school remote wire lol.
As I watch the video is see 2 things that definitely would improve this unit and make it worth the cost over other LOCs with Bass enhancement. 1) is Tiffany RCAs. 2) is clipping input and output lights.
I still have an old Epicenter that I'm using - since the 90s'. Just doing a new install in a new car and was even going to disassemble and re-paint my rough looking Epicenter to not clash so much with my brand new install... But now I see I really need to get an Epicenter Mini to replace it. Can't wait.
The point is that no matter what, the ACR-U will be cleaner, easier to install, and higher quality than a traditional universal level controller. If the system is already installed, you could easily use a 1’ rca from the ACR hideaway module to the amp, and then just plug in the existing RCA’s that were going to the amp into the input side of the ACR-U. Now all you have to do is run a CAT5 up to the dashboard.
so is there a way to shut off/ bypass during hip hop. and use the knob as bass knob to the amp. epi works great with rock/mex/oldies but with hip hop it sounds muddy.
Very interesting the size of the new Epicenter. Just wish they'd make something similar to what the PG BassCube was/is. About the ACR, they need to come back out with the MVC.
This is the first person I've heard say that the micro does not replace the original epicenter. I want one just for the new 2 function bass knob, but if I have to buy both rather then swap one for the other, well, I think I'll pass.
Just for clarification will i need to run a remote signal to the epicenter micro or does the trigger mode provide the remote turn on for it? If yes can it provide the remote turn on for the amplifier?
Can you do a comparison between the Micro Epicenter and the Hifonics BXIPRO 3.0. There is very little information out there about the effect comparison. Pice between them is very different. Thanks.
Do you have a video of you guys installing one these micros I'll be installing one in a week and want it and the knob to be set up right. What size fuse should I use for the epicenter also?
Okay, being 'that guy' with a 2nd comment... @09:00 ...knew @ this product but NOT the "dual knob" functions... more user friendly is just better. 1st World problems... get the in-dash 1/2 DIN or the Micro?
I’ll be getting one for my 2017 Tahoe space saver for sure. 🔊 subwoofer tattoo on this guy. 👍🏼 Thanks Dean you’ve been biting your lip for awhile. 😬😁👍🏼 How much $$ 🤷🏻♂️😁🙏🏼✌🏼
Does it require a full range signal like the older Epicenter models? Never used my Epicenter do to that. I wanted it inline between my dsp and sub amp.
🔴So there is only one line out. What do i do if i have two amplifier (bass and mids) how does that one line out supply both amps. wont i need a bass rca and a full range rca signal
Hi. How long is the cable that comes with icr4 controller? I would use the epicenter micro in a "high spl outside chuchero" system set up. I have a 50ft. Medusa (rca snake) with my system.
Wait! So, the taper on this new ACR-U is linear, and I stress linear, from 0% to 100%?!? As opposed to the typical logarithmic tapered bass knobs that come with amplifiers? I've taken five of the manufacturer's bass knobs apart they always have a Bournes logarithmic tapered pot that I have to change to a linear tapered pot for SPL applications.
You are correct, sir. I’ll even double check with our engineering team so I can be 100% certain, but having a linear potentiometer was one of my main design elements I requested when we designed this piece.
@@MrMattyXb If true that's a game-changer for SPL applications. Now, if there were only a way to index a multi-turn potentiometer either with a digital readout "0-99" or at minimum mechanical detents in the pot. ie: each percentage number or detent is worth some amount of power, say 25 watts on the Term-Lab clamp
As an add-on for an existing aftermarket amplified system, wouldn’t it be easier to mount the level controller behind the radio? Because if you mount it back by the amp, you still have to pop open panels to run cat5/6
You're not wrong, though I suppose it's a matter of where you want the level controller placed at (as it could be placed anywhere along the RCA runs back from the HU to the amp, assuming the lengths were accomodating). So, if say your system used 20' of RCAs, in theory you could run the first 10' through the panels to around your seat, add the ACR-U module under the seat there, then run the remaining 10' back to the amp, and the only CAT cable you'd need would be from under your seat to wherever you wanted to mount the knob... _Maybe_ 3'... But since most RCA runs are already going to be ran (let-alone be ran with two 10' segments already), the term "easier" referring to which way it's ran from depends on which would be easier for _you;_ opening up your dash to mount the install near the HU or just running it back up from the amp.
Yes, you could put the hideaway portion of the acr-u anywhere in the signal chain. Up near the source unit, back by the amps, doesn’t matter. Short run of cat5, long run of cat5, either way it all works. Totally depends on the system.
Mate just got the epicenter micro, and the quality of bass it’s very bad, not sure if is because I got the signal from the original subwoofer in the car under the seat, this is a problem? Or I need take the signal from the door speakers? Happy to let me know pls Tks
I don't really understand what this product will do. can anyone PLEASE fill my question. i'm new at car audio. i have 2 12 on my o6 honda odyssey everything is Kenwood. The subs the headunit ,the amp. the door speakers.
Would LOVE to see audio control start making amplifiers with the absolute newest technology, aka the size will be incredibly small but incredibly powerful. I am so tired of amps being ridiculously huge for huge power.... its just bullshit. Also they can increase efficiency by using the newest technology possible. Also just wanna say. sealed subwoofer life. ill never run ported ever.
The Epicenter is cool. But What in the world is up with the universal knob? Thats multiple cables and devices. Ill take a knob plugged directly into the amp or whatever over that any day. The distance is the only advance that universal controller has
If your amplifier is capable of having a direct volume knob, then you are absolutely correct. However, there are plenty of amplifiers out there that do not have the ability to have a knob plugged directly into them. Or, maybe you have an amplifier that is a few years old, and you no longer have the knob for it or one is no longer available for it. That’s really where the ACR-u comes into play.
@@MrMattyXb Yeah, I didn't really think about that at first. I guess it's just kind of hard in 2021 to wrap my mind around the multi-wire thing in a world going wireless.
The Music heavens opened up and the elegant choir sang Hallelujah!!! Just as the Almighty Above us.. ugh umm...I mean Audio Control answered all of our car audio prayers with the ACR-4.....No more grueling dreaded dual dash flush mounts
I've been running epicenters since they very first come out. I dont like the new ones compared to the old ones. Seems the new ones drive the tone down too much where some of the songs in the 80s say played at 35 hertz now its 20 hertz. Wished I had kept my old one
Definitely excited to check out some of this newness. 👍😲
AudioControl is the number #1 car audio company that stays ahead of the game than any other car audio manufactures. Keep up the good work AudioControl.
So great to see these guys continue innovating more products!!!
Love the epicenter, have had them since the 80's. I'm old.
Audio Control is a bass head/ SQ guys best friend!!
Their highest is 1500 RMS and it’s okaaaay bass-wise. SQ for sure though and the footprint is a plus.
Awesome what a great company, made in America with local support to boot. Keep innovating AC.
It really works well, the only wish I have maybe is instead of just having sweep on dial, I wish it would show the frequency range like on an amplifier.
I've had a very good relationship with AC since high school and for reasons just like this! Thanks a ton AC!
Epicenter is legendary status nothing else compares. The old school Phoenix Gold Bass Cube and MTX LSB1 are badass in their own way, but nothing what an epicenter does.
Absolutely love the subwoofer tattoo!!!!!
Thank you!
I was literally about to order the audiocontrol lc2i and the epicenter! I’m so glad I watched this video! I’m going to wait for this new epicenter now!
So just to confirm, if I use epicenter micro I don't need lc2i pro?
ehat did u emd up doing
I hope they put a clipping light on the knob, we don't need power lights to hear that our subs are on. 2 lights every amp knob should have clipping input and clipping output. A volt meter is always nice to....
that would only tell you if your headunit is clipping. Not the amp. So kinda useless
@@devnull182 it's super important to know when a headunit clips, that's almost the number one thing.
10:00 if it saved on space then we wouldn't need both Epicenter and this Epicenter micro. I recall him saying this is not to replace your Epicenter but adds to it. AudioControl should have created a new micro Epicenter as they did with LC7i » LC2i Pro, LC1i, etc.
that 0-100 bass knob is the whole reason i got a epicenter in the first place haha
You know that you're talking with a GREAT Rep. when he's almost giddy talking about the brand/products. LOL, Dean has a "Fernando" and a "Fernando Micro" in his line-up. Good young fella you have, Fernando!
That thing is even smaller than the LC2i in my Mercedes. Thats awesome. I'm not a fan of the signal sense remote turn on tho. Every time I locked my doors, my amp would turn on. So I stuck to the old school remote wire lol.
I am wanting to use my phone as my head unit. The ACR.U is perfect for my needs!!!. Excellent work!!!!!!!!!
Yes! It is perfect for tablet and smartphone as head unit installs. Works great in all of our testing.
@@MrMattyXb I'm stoked!!!
As I watch the video is see 2 things that definitely would improve this unit and make it worth the cost over other LOCs with Bass enhancement. 1) is Tiffany RCAs. 2) is clipping input and output lights.
ACR.U is so simple, yet hasn’t ever existed. Would have never thought about it
I wanna buy that micro epicenter 😍😍
I still have an old Epicenter that I'm using - since the 90s'. Just doing a new install in a new car and was even going to disassemble and re-paint my rough looking Epicenter to not clash so much with my brand new install... But now I see I really need to get an Epicenter Mini to replace it. Can't wait.
Wanna sell the old one?
I’m geeking out…. Can’t wait!!
You know you're serious about car audio when you have tattoos like that!
Haha, thank you!
@@MrMattyXb hey Matt when it be on sale"
@@tcisneros79 later this summer/early fall
@@MrMattyXb thank you Matt !
Awesome. Can't wait for the acr4
Even if you mount the universal level control back by the amp. You will have to run an RCA and the CAT5 from up front. You have to have an input.
The point is that no matter what, the ACR-U will be cleaner, easier to install, and higher quality than a traditional universal level controller. If the system is already installed, you could easily use a 1’ rca from the ACR hideaway module to the amp, and then just plug in the existing RCA’s that were going to the amp into the input side of the ACR-U. Now all you have to do is run a CAT5 up to the dashboard.
Looking forward to that ACRU for sure!
Anyone else get 4 mins in and look at the bottom right corner and go WHAT ARE THOSE?!?! Lol
Nice job guys
Smaller footprint, =awesomeness 😎
so is there a way to shut off/ bypass during hip hop. and use the knob as bass knob to the amp. epi works great with rock/mex/oldies but with hip hop it sounds muddy.
I love the new style dual volume knob
Love the rf sub tattoo
Very interesting the size of the new Epicenter. Just wish they'd make something similar to what the PG BassCube was/is.
About the ACR, they need to come back out with the MVC.
I have a bass cube. Just set the dial on what frequency you want boosted and adjust the knob
@@easylooker I used to have one too, but the Epicenter doesn't work that way.
I like the shirt ,great information in this one I dropped a epicenter in my set up still learning it but I do enjoy it .Maryland showing ❤️
Eastern Shore in the house! 🤙🏻
So… what did you mean this doesn’t replace the epicenter, it goes with the epicenter? How does it save space if I also must have an epicenter?
its a episenter as well
I need that ACR4!!! I was just looking for one for my new system. Nice!!!!!
Can I add 2 amps a highs and bass amp
This is the first person I've heard say that the micro does not replace the original epicenter. I want one just for the new 2 function bass knob, but if I have to buy both rather then swap one for the other, well, I think I'll pass.
can you change the pfm frequency in that micro epicenter, like the concert series epicenter? thanks
So this is a lineout coverter that I can use if I’m leaving factory stereo inn
When are these devices going to be available!?!? In serious need of both of these components!!!! Please say now?!?!?
Do this unit needs crossover for the subwoofer amp?
Price?
Wish they could make an ACR4 that would work with the DM810
I was just thinking the exact same thing
How does it work with a 4 channel system?
Just for clarification will i need to run a remote signal to the epicenter micro or does the trigger mode provide the remote turn on for it? If yes can it provide the remote turn on for the amplifier?
Can you do a comparison between the Micro Epicenter and the Hifonics BXIPRO 3.0. There is very little information out there about the effect comparison. Pice between them is very different. Thanks.
I have an Epicenter 1200 sub amp I can't use any longer. I wish it had a bypass so I could use the Epicenter without amplification.
Do you want to sell the epicenter 1200?
@@juanpestrada5231bdndjkdn sorry, I already sold it.
@@600zxr l wonder why they discontinued it is a LOC epicenter and amplifier build in one
@@juanpestrada5231bdndjkdn they realized they will sell fewer Epicenters when the amps have them integrated. It's all about the dollar.
Are the micro epicenter out yet I still haven't seen it for sale nowhere
It would be nice if the ACR4 could be used as dual volume controller
Where can i find that knob? Really need that!
Do you have a video of you guys installing one these micros I'll be installing one in a week and want it and the knob to be set up right. What size fuse should I use for the epicenter also?
Where is the ACR-U? They need to get this released. It’s not even on their website yet. Come on AC- we need this
When is this coming out?
Anyone notice that ACR-4 looks to have two knobs?? Maybe a overall volume knob and a bass know looks kinda like a JL Audio bassknob
Yeah, one is overall volume, and one is bass volume.
It does! One for the epicenter and the other is the bass knob that eliminates your amplifier bass knob, from what I understood by Dean.
@@anthonybrown6143 yes I am just saying I wonder if it will be used on other products down the line. Such as their dsp.
@@alaskadroneshots1057 hope so to bro, considering those dsp's arnt cheap i got the 810 my self
I can’t get too specific, but there are plans to use the ACR-4 with other products in the future.
Can you have them both?
Dang Dean. Workin harder than late 80s Michael J Fox.
🔥haha
Nice tshirt haha zipties, is there anything they cant do?
So doesn't this do what the epic center does what's the difference beside the upgrades?
Okay, being 'that guy' with a 2nd comment... @09:00 ...knew @ this product but NOT the "dual knob" functions... more user friendly is just better. 1st World problems... get the in-dash 1/2 DIN or the Micro?
Have videos of a 2015 grand cherokee sound upgrade?
AudioControl, if you are listening... update your DSP amps (eg D4.800) from graphic to parametric EQ please!
When do you recommend using this IE application set up??
I’ll be getting one for my 2017 Tahoe space saver for sure.
🔊 subwoofer tattoo on this guy. 👍🏼
Thanks Dean you’ve been biting your lip for awhile. 😬😁👍🏼
How much $$ 🤷🏻♂️😁🙏🏼✌🏼
$250
Does it have the accubass for roll off like the lc2i
Did you find out anything about the new JL C6's?
CAN I WIRE LC2I PRO WITH EPICENTER MICRO?
Thanks dean.good vid
Does it require a full range signal like the older Epicenter models? Never used my Epicenter do to that. I wanted it inline between my dsp and sub amp.
So for this epi micro, will I place it before or after my Audiocontrol dsp??
After.
🔴So there is only one line out. What do i do if i have two amplifier (bass and mids) how does that one line out supply both amps. wont i need a bass rca and a full range rca signal
Where can I order one?
Oh man so does the acr4 work with epicenter AND dm608?
What is the ETA of the epicenter micro?
Is it actually using IEEE 802.3 or is the cable just a Layer 1 interface?
Hi. How long is the cable that comes with icr4 controller? I would use the epicenter micro in a "high spl outside chuchero" system set up. I have a 50ft. Medusa (rca snake) with my system.
Wait! So, the taper on this new ACR-U is linear, and I stress linear, from 0% to 100%?!? As opposed to the typical logarithmic tapered bass knobs that come with amplifiers? I've taken five of the manufacturer's bass knobs apart they always have a Bournes logarithmic tapered pot that I have to change to a linear tapered pot for SPL applications.
You are correct, sir. I’ll even double check with our engineering team so I can be 100% certain, but having a linear potentiometer was one of my main design elements I requested when we designed this piece.
@@MrMattyXb If true that's a game-changer for SPL applications. Now, if there were only a way to index a multi-turn potentiometer either with a digital readout "0-99" or at minimum mechanical detents in the pot. ie: each percentage number or detent is worth some amount of power, say 25 watts on the Term-Lab clamp
Are these things amplified? Or ami going to need amp too?
As an add-on for an existing aftermarket amplified system, wouldn’t it be easier to mount the level controller behind the radio? Because if you mount it back by the amp, you still have to pop open panels to run cat5/6
You're not wrong, though I suppose it's a matter of where you want the level controller placed at (as it could be placed anywhere along the RCA runs back from the HU to the amp, assuming the lengths were accomodating). So, if say your system used 20' of RCAs, in theory you could run the first 10' through the panels to around your seat, add the ACR-U module under the seat there, then run the remaining 10' back to the amp, and the only CAT cable you'd need would be from under your seat to wherever you wanted to mount the knob... _Maybe_ 3'...
But since most RCA runs are already going to be ran (let-alone be ran with two 10' segments already), the term "easier" referring to which way it's ran from depends on which would be easier for _you;_ opening up your dash to mount the install near the HU or just running it back up from the amp.
Yes, you could put the hideaway portion of the acr-u anywhere in the signal chain. Up near the source unit, back by the amps, doesn’t matter. Short run of cat5, long run of cat5, either way it all works. Totally depends on the system.
@@MrMattyXb Thanks Matt! Awesome Tats!
What’s the rock bottom price???
So can I use this epicenter micro in my Tri Glide Harley Davidson
Mate just got the epicenter micro, and the quality of bass it’s very bad, not sure if is because I got the signal from the original subwoofer in the car under the seat, this is a problem? Or I need take the signal from the door speakers?
Happy to let me know pls
Tks
???
Put the epicenter in the acm 1.300 😁
So, I have the epicenter in dash, would I be able to incorporate the new knob into my setup?
You could incorporate the ACR-U into your setup, if that’s what you mean.
The guy has a Subwoofer tattoo 😲 Tell me you love car audio without telling me you love car audio 😄. Maybe Fernando will get a ziptie tattoo 🤔 🙃 😅
I don't really understand what this product will do. can anyone PLEASE fill my question. i'm new at car audio. i have 2 12 on my o6 honda odyssey everything is Kenwood. The subs the headunit ,the amp. the door speakers.
The epicenter essentially adds bass to music that doesn't have much bass.
@@dylanandersen9318 thanks.
Would LOVE to see audio control start making amplifiers with the absolute newest technology, aka the size will be incredibly small but incredibly powerful. I am so tired of amps being ridiculously huge for huge power.... its just bullshit. Also they can increase efficiency by using the newest technology possible.
Also just wanna say. sealed subwoofer life. ill never run ported ever.
The Epicenter is cool. But What in the world is up with the universal knob? Thats multiple cables and devices. Ill take a knob plugged directly into the amp or whatever over that any day. The distance is the only advance that universal controller has
If your amplifier is capable of having a direct volume knob, then you are absolutely correct. However, there are plenty of amplifiers out there that do not have the ability to have a knob plugged directly into them. Or, maybe you have an amplifier that is a few years old, and you no longer have the knob for it or one is no longer available for it. That’s really where the ACR-u comes into play.
@@MrMattyXb Yeah, I didn't really think about that at first. I guess it's just kind of hard in 2021 to wrap my
mind around the multi-wire thing in a world going wireless.
Dang dean up and rolling early today “the lord’s work is never done” 🔈🔉🔊 samson we need more bass
so how the hell do you connect and use this when you got 6 outputs from your headunit and I'm connecting two 4 channel amps and 1 mono?
SON MUY CAROS Y EN LO PERSONAL PREFIERO UNA UNA SEÑAL LIMPIA SIN PROCESAMIENTO
Punch hx2 sub tattoo lol
Dude has that Seth Rogan vibe
I’m going to take that as a compliment, lol.
The Music heavens opened up and the elegant choir sang Hallelujah!!! Just as the Almighty Above us.. ugh umm...I mean Audio Control answered all of our car audio prayers with the ACR-4.....No more grueling dreaded dual dash flush mounts
Did I win?
Niice
I've been running epicenters since they very first come out. I dont like the new ones compared to the old ones. Seems the new ones drive the tone down too much where some of the songs in the 80s say played at 35 hertz now its 20 hertz. Wished I had kept my old one
I agree with you I've been looking for a old one hard to find only people who don't know what they have will sell
Use No Hooks.
Do Not Deep Fry or Sauté
What?? It doesn’t replace the older one.?🤷🏻♂️ it’s designed to run side by side what.? So I need both new and old epicenters. Hmmm 🧐 🤔
its a epicenter as well
Is it because Us Guys getting older can afford this stuff? 🤔🤣