Darth Vader Vs Space Marine | ANIMATED
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This is a live animation of the hypothetical fight scene from my video "Could Death Vader Beat a Space Marine" here : • Can Darth Vader beat a...
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Things would get quite confusing when they both say "For the Emperor!"
Vader hates Palpatine but it's all he can do
That would have been perfect!
On another note, most Imperium citizens would find Palpatine's rule a paradise compared to their current existence .There would be alot of defectors.
Starwars citizens :noooo emperor is to cruel 40k citizens :pussys casualy wipes out rebels by itself trough headshots
@@barrywreap5122 perhaps because star wars universe is alot less hostile and fucked
And then: “Did we just become best friends!?!”
You're challenging GW and Disney at the same time!?
These guys got some steel balls
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah best comment ever if I could I give you an internet trophy. hahahah
Ceramite scrotum...
For all their faults Disney is surprisingly chill about fanart and stuff. Even the most hardcore Disney hating youtube channels can use Disney material in their movies. Apparently that part of the Disney Empire understands that any free advertising is good advertising. GW on the other hand......
@YTPerma Ban massive friedrich nietzsche ubermench chads to be more exact
Lucasfilm doesn’t ban fan animations and short films - it has a yearly contest to find the best one. Judged by their own staff. And the winner sometimes even gets a job offer.
GW should take notes
Vader gets that brutal stab in, destroying his heart.
Librarian looks up, second heart kicking in.
*" I C A S T F I S T . "*
I Cato Sicarius can’t feel my teeth oowoowoowoo
Yeah, I had to go back and watch that punch again, you don't see them like that very often, especially considering Vader weighs almost 300 pounds but that punch got him a good 2 or 3 feet off the ground 😂
Pretty sure space marines have at least one spare heart so taking one down really isnt a mortal wound. Good fight thou!
@@accywacky2699 2 hearts and 3 lungs. Making an Astartes space marine from a time lord would only save them 1 or 2 steps out of the 17+ step process
Yes GIVE IN TO YOUR HATRED! DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!!
This was a slick fight animation. My favorite part was Vader stabbing him through the chest and all I could think was, “That probably got one of his hearts”
one of his heart maybe smashed by the force?
One of his hearts? His insides are incinerated.
@@ditchfood8047incinerated? You surely mean soup
considering the wound would instantly cauterize and space marines have enhanced immune systems like crazy, no, he's really fine@@ditchfood8047
Like I hate these scenarios because the answer is almost always that 40k wins because 40k is literally just a different power scale, like, it would be like comparing the model T to a Ford F-150, like, they're both cars, but they're both so different and from such different worlds that there's nothing really to say on it aside from the F150 being the obvious better
Anytime I imagine a fight between 40k and another franchise, I just think, “Nobody will predict that the space marine has a 2nd heart.”
Except Krogan.
They also have two.
@@jaroslavmartinec9720 it would be interesting fight
One thing space marines don't have is quadruple redundancy in gonads.
or a third lung, or that they spit acid, can get the memories of their enemies by eating their flesh (especially the Flesh Tearers), and many other things (many of which are unknown if they were retconned or not).
@@jinrago9585 a krogan vs a world Eater . That would be sick!!!
The best part for me is when the Space Marine looks up, see's something it doesn't recognize and attacks without hesitation. Kind of sums up the Imperium in a nutshell.
If its hostile, kill it.
Wait, wrong franchise....
100% Accurate
@@eleethtahgra7182 Even if it's not hostile exterminatus it
@@Zurgo-fl1kx war...war never changes.
Damn, wrong franchise again.
I mean Vader is getting out of crashed ship and the space marine is attending a dead space marine by another crashed ship so I’d assume they had already gotten passed diplomatic resolution lol
Space Marine: “For the Emperor!”
Darth Vader: “Why did you say that name!?”
What is this Batman vs Superman lol?
There’s another.
Legit LOL! 😆
"Martha same name stupid storyline it is! Many promises Jedi are good. Unsanctioned psyker cultist? Are not. Temple look like Khornate Tzeench design coinky-dink is just!"
~Yoda - Gretchin weirdboy.
Vader: "NANI"
SM: "I have two hearts"
Vader: "I have plot armour"
Vader: "and I'm literally one of the most powerful force beings to exist..."
@@icejuice9316"not only am i space jesus. Im also doing this heavily nerfed and as a cripple"
“Send in Starkiller”
The space marine has plot armor, Darth Vader literally force choked a god.
Daka, Daka!
"Am I in the right universe"
"I think we're both a bit lost, just look over there"
*Zerg scurries away*
Xenomorph: *eating popcorn* Don't let Me stop You.
Yatuja: *Drools in Predator*
Bruh... Zerg look tame in comparison to the Nids
@Akimba Nguehe Well, you wouldn't say that when you see what the nids looked like before the zergs. Actually nevermind, they looked creepier back then.
@@akimbanguehe3454 Protoss would be Tau in this universe. Not much of threat, but with potential.
None of the other counterparts match up.
@@Adino1 they were supposed to be Eldar before games workshop cut the project. It's why they got them crazy melee units and do the blue soul thing when they die.
The attempt on the emperor’s life has left him scarred and deformed
Which one?
@@adman1381 the one true emperor
@@Inquisitor_Eriksson All hail the Man-Emperor of Mankind!
@@TheWarmachine375 the emperor who’s bodyguards have spears
@@Inquisitor_Eriksson And fabulous bodies
That was sick. Using Vaders memories against him was a nice addition. You don’t really read about Librarians doing that often.
The problem is that with Vader being FUELED by Hate and negative emotions that would totally backfire.
@Andrei Salvaleon A space marine filling an enemy with positive emotions?! I FIND YOUR LACK OF GRIMDARK... DISTURBING 🤣
@Andrei Salvaleon Yes reminding him of Padme, you know he killed her right? Hardly Positive reinforcement there 😂
@@JeanLucCaptainwell I mean feel like the guy doesn't understand 40k as much. Like the sm librarian could've made Vader head explode with the flick of his wrist or hold him in telekinesis and liquefy him from the inside out. Etc etc this vid focused more on sword play than any other
When both swords are designed to cut but the powersword disrupts the beam of the lightsaber and goes through so both die in a very anticlimatic first strike...
@Kriegsman3908-1 Ah yes, the fanboy...
Just as Count Dooku predicted!
@Kriegsman3908-1then, remember how astartes got obliterated by demon engines during the siege of Vrax.
Anyway, my i already stated the logic behind why both would die.
@@Bismarck-wu5ny If they survived demon engines I’d honestly be like “who the fuck are these super heroes”
@@ismaele9503 ik but that guy was just being the average 40k fanboy. He abandoned reason, he only knows the rule of cool.
XD
I love the detail that while Vader's armor and force abilities can easily deflect most plasma, projectile and heat-based attacks, his suit was deliberately built with a weakness to lightning-based attacks in case he ever tried to turn on Palpatine...as we say happen in Return of the Jedi.
Fire yes but he'd get absolutely roasted by hot plasma as that would be like getting hit by a lightsaber
@@mr.jamrob4505 Depends on where, since if you look closely at the scene in Empire Strikes Back right before Vader slices Luke's hand off, Luke actually gets a direct hit in on Vader's shoulder armor which deflects the strike. He also stopped Han's blaster fire with The Force and his own mechanical hand. Even when Luke successfully sliced off Vader's mechanical hand in Return of the Jedi he had to hit the same spot multiple times for the lightsaber to cut through.
@@AceSpadeThePikachu
Good point
Although I failed to give context as I was thinking about larger bursts rather than small concentrations
Strictly speaking, while the effect of deflecting the plasma blast was cool as hell, he still should've been cooked alive. Bing surrounded by the heat of a miniature star is only marginally less lethal than being directly hit by it.
@@CteCrassus This is a man who has survived losing all four limbs and being set on fire...just a few inches away from a river or lava.
Vader: That was the hardest fight of my life.
The million other Astartes: The hardest fight of your life, so far!
Only in death does duty ends! Vader would make one hell of a librarious dreadnought though not going to lie.
*Custodies walks up* “hold my beer” =D
@@williamkirshbom3163 thinking about it Guilliman is a lot like Vader in a way living like a semi functional dreadnought, instead of a coffin it's the armor.
So basically two Space Marines can take down Darth Vader, it's insane how a simple and ordinary soldier of Warhammer 40k can quite enough facing against one of the strongest character of Star Wars
@@HwangInhoBooNam space marines are special forces guardsman are the ordinary foot man
If it’s a Librarian vs Darth Vader, then this will be a very entertaining fight.
Looks like one, he's got the psychic hood and the Librarius symbol
It is. Normal Spacemarines can't use Smite and shoot lightning from thier fingers.
Darth Vader from legends would clear a room full of librarians.
@@spiffygonzales5899 not if its an alpha psyker librarian they are like darth sidious level lol
@@noctislucis9521
Yee.
Vader straight up took on Starkillers force lightning, which charged up an entire Star Destroyer. He's stronger than Palpatine, he took on like ten Jedi master's at the same time.. dude would def take on an alpha level librarian
Darth Vader: I Am Your Father
Space Marine: I'm 8000 years old with three lungs and two hearts.
@@kristof.demeteryeah but there just's one Vader and a dozen librerians per chapter at least, and this noob still got the mutual kill😂
@@bloodangel19”Noob”
@@combineconformist i mean he was a regular baseline librerian. He was practicaly a nobody
@@bloodangel19who said he killed Vader? He still looked very alived to me just taking a break. Also I would like to say not just any lighting is Vaders weakness, it’s specifically force lightning
@@bloodangel19 I mean if it was lore accurate vader, he could probably solo the entire legion. Comic vader is broken as fuck.
I don't care who won or what is lore accurate I just love to see high-quality content made by fans
Why do people even argue about who won and who lost. They both dropped.
@@Movieplayer112 yes, but ceramite armor... would be stronger than cortosis ore so... the lightsaber would either scratch it or slid aside.
Its like seeing someone stabbing through a modern Abraham's tank using a normal steel katana sword...
@@IberianCraftsmanAnd how exactly would you know that? The very comparaison you make, tells me that you probably don't really know what you are talking about.
I know how everything in 40k is described as being on a whole nother level. However, I've found that 40k isn't as strong as it make itself soundlike.
Codexes are more like propaganda, to impress both civilians and boost recruitment for the different factions, but also to impress us as consumers (clever advertising actually).
However, when you read about a faction from other factions perspective, you learn about the true power of that faction.
And by measuring the described power of things within 40k against each other and against modern equipment, you'll realize that 40k is mostly barks.
I compared the described power of the lasgun to modern firearms, and I found that its lethal energy appears to be about what you can expect from a modern anti-tank rifle, except lasgun shots seems to discharge their lethal energy over a larger surface area, which would be great against vulnerable target but do near nothing against armor (and we know that these things can wound space marines), while 50. cal and 20mm are designed to penetrate armor.
@@Movieplayer112 I mean the Imperium of man in 40k era had already lost lots of technologies from the dark age of technologies, but even huamnity had lost so much the Imperium could still build megastructures example like dyson sphere.
@@alphariusfuze8089 I feel like the dark age of technology was made, because GW had no idea how to write stories or make a game around a setting, where black holes were thrown around like candy during halloween (and frankly, neither do I).
The issue I see with 40k is that it contradicts itself to the point where nothing seems true. In a way I just find the franchise poorly thought through, and comparing 40k to other franchises doesn't makes sense, as 40k hardly makes sense within itself.
I'm pretty sure the Space Marine f-ed up when he tried to use a physic attack on Darth Vader. The dark side of the Force is basically powered by anger and hate, so invading Darth's mind to forcibly remind him of his past failures and atrocities would only serve to piss him off, making his powers with the Force even stronger.
Facts 💥
I'm just surprise Vader's head didn't explode, a librarian marine is quite powerful, for saying the least
That's brilliant.
@@hotcocoacoffe3938 sith meditate and train their mind for hours every day some for months on end lol, they may be fuelled by hate but they still have incredible discipline, i don't imagine a human psyker could break him. Maybe an eldar could but those guys use the warp to scratch their nuts so no comparison
@@shitonabrik13times Maybe, but Anakin is not precisely a mental fortress as the other Jedi/sith, and you know the whole "I'mma lick ya and taint ya" shenanigan the warp has going for itself
Space Marine:
"For the Emperor!"
Darth Vader: "For the Emperor!"
Space Marine: "Did we just become best friends?"
Ah yes, the "Superman vs. Batman" climax moment! Or Step Brothers. Or Simpsons "Lemon of Troy" episode.
Or
*stunned silence, with aggressive starring
Darth Vader: no lmao
SM: Wait, are we talking about the same Emperor ? You know, the giant guy with incredible psyker abilities and a golden armor and sword on fire.
DV: ... Your Emperor sounds better than mine honestly, but surely mine has a better use of the force.
SM: _Reloads bolter with violent intent_
Darth Vader: "If you said about your Emperor then I should kill you. But if you said about MY Emperor then... I MUST KILL YOU!"
My personally, I just like how well these guys worked with bladework instead overplaying their abilities. This wasn't some wizard battle of force/warp powers, this was a battle between duelists with dark arts. Watching the two cross blades and duke it mano-a-mano was just phenomenal.
I’ve seen quite a bit of legitimate swordplay and this stuff is not far off, it’s got a bit of cinematic flair but otherwise it’s accurate and looks epic.
Ah yes, the battle of two people who's strengths and power depend on who is telling the story.
For Vader, it is a question of "Is it Legends or Canon?", and for the Space Marine, it is which "version of the Codex?".
Truly, these two men are tormented by the evershifting forces of continuity.
Exactly, we saw that with the force choke. Vader would only do a slow choke if he wanted to assert his dominance. When Vader actually want to kill someone with the Force he was just snap the neck directly.
Nope. Either canon wouldnt matter the SM shouldve won
@@imsorrythatimright6082 Goku is stronger 😎
@@parki2772 nice cop out reply there very creative. I can tell it took quite a bit of brainpower to come up with that
What I don't get is there are Psyker Astartes . Wouldn't one of them be a more even match for a force user ?
Space Marine: "The Emperor protects !"
Vader:"Yes, serve the emperor."
Space Marine: "Right brother"
Vader:"You dont know the power of the dark side"
Space Marine:"Chaos sighted !"
Also Space Marine: *"HERETIC!"*
😂😂😂😂
The only time a Loyalist Astartes can say "Death To The False Emperor!"
@@ThePathStrider Nope, there was a story when the Lunar Wolves invaded another human empire in the Great Crusuade and Horus killed a self-proclaimed human Emperor
@@ThePathStrider And they're gonna do it again
I thought that the lightning would've made this an easy fight for the space marine, but no matter who won, this was awesome!
Lightning is actually one of the least effective powers against Vader.
While heavily injured already. He takes a solid 10 seconds of Sidious's lightning.
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 true, but he still dies after. although i do now notice that the lightning that killed him came from darth sidious, which kinda explains his death.
@@Sal4Twonot12 Yup, Vader died to save Luke who redeemed him.
the lightning disabled vader's suit so he was basically surviving just by sheer fucking will
@@thecommentguy9380 wouldn't be the first time, however I don't think he would stand much of a chance against smurfs Librarian, even random, unnamed one.
"First ones are usually the hardest, but after a while you kinda know what to expect."
-Darth Vader
Shortly before getting boltered to the face
@@philleotardo7016 and stopping it with his mind before it hits him and sending it back
@@CT-1975 those things explode on impact, they’re gonna immediately vaporize him if he tries to do that
@@philleotardo7016 bro. How will it vaporize him if it doesn't come in contact with him, the force isn't just stopping it it's also holding the shot in place
@Kriegsman3908-1 not how to force works
I liked how Space Marines transhuman might came up when Vader thought he'd won already after stabbing the Librarian through his chest, yet the Librarian kept coming at him like it was just a fleshwound. Well done Majorkill and Paul1748!
And specifically, Vader is aiming for the heart, not knowing that Space Marines have two hearts
vader learned an important lesson: never assume the enemy has only 1 heart :3
His 2cp was well used on transhuman physiology
Well his whole chest insides would have been cooked any additional hearts included, but this is stuff even the creators are constantly inaccurate and inconsistent about so why hold fan art to a higher standard.
Yeah i love the attention to details.
Like playing on vaders self loathing.
I loved the psychic attack at 0:47. Well done!
Librarian: So much pain... So much *rage...* If you do not serve Chaos now, you will soon. For the good of all Mankind, you must die.
Vader: *N O*
This was counterproductive because Sith get stronger through emotions like pain, hate, fear e.t.c and giving Vader PTSD flashbacks of Padme just gave him a massive darkside boost.
@@checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054 I thought it was some kind of Emperor's power cleansing vader's taint through this psyker.
@@Огнерез Imperial combat psyker techniques in WH40k are solidly Dark Side material by Star Wars standards.
I'mma keep it a buck Wich you chief, I did not have the necessary knowledge of 40K lore to know that the imperium of man had access to psychic abilities. I thought they considered all that shit as heresy and strictly avoided or destroyed such people.
This is sick!
that it is
@@1r0zz Slang terminology. It means he likes it.
you mean sith?
Oh God! I hope it's not covid!
@@liviauso Somebody asked "as in they are ill?" So i was explaining what the OP meant. I'm assuming that 1r0zz (the person that asked) doesn't speak English as a first language or at least doesn't know many English slang words.
Not sure why they deleted their post afterwards but it's no big deal.
I'd pay to see Vader's reaction when he realises there's a whole army of those guys
To me, it's interesting to see the change in vader's saber style. He's usually fighting jedi that are not as strong as him, usually by a large margin. His style is usually much more static and overbearing, relying on his strength instead of his skill. In this case, the marine is stronger than he is by a large margin, so he relies on the skills that he has always had, just not needed.
I agree. Also to keep in mind that Vader used his overbearing strength to intimidate his jedi opponents in order for their fear to crack them. Doesnt work on an enemy who knows no fear and is overall physically stronger.
Agree with your statement, I just think that the SM could have overpowered Darth Vader easily given how much stronger a SM (sizewise) is to anything in the Star Wars universe. 3 m tall but hits probably like a 20 m tall rancor.
The fact that the animator/Majorkill kept this in mind is amazing
In that sense, this is Anakin in a suit Vs a Space Marine.
@@ct7567CaptRex I love how your point is demonstrated by Vader having to use both hands while the Marine is casually keeping a hand free
I think we can all agree that we would like these short animations to become as regular as possible. Phenomenal video.
I honestly think the imperium and the empire would be pretty good friends. I mean the empire could solve a lot of the imperium problems with the hyperdrive and the empire is pretty xenophobic although on a much lesser scale.
The Galactic Empire is what the Emperor of Mankind essentially wanted. But that doesn't matter because now the Imperium of man is a fanatical theocracy that will kill anyone who doesn't worship their "god" emperor. The Sith are pretty fanatical about the dark side, which is essentially chaos.. That heresy wouldn't be forgivable, the Imperium would have to crush the Empire. Even the Sith of old wouldn't be able to deal with the raw number of powerful space marines and Astartes. In space though, the Empire might actually stand a chance, so it's kind of a tossup because I don't know how Imperium ships work aside from the travelling through hell thing.
@@aarontoles5988 Well, the Imperium doesn't actually really know *how* to operate their ships, since many of the secrets of their ships (Especially the Adeptus Mechanicus' Ships) stem from either the Dark/Golden Age of Humanity, although there have been times when the "sleeping" AIs within the ships woke up because the ship was in danger of being destroyed and utilized weaponry within it that the Imperium or Mechanicus didn't even know was on the ship, and Oh mah gawd was it destructive. Sent a massively powerful enemy ship a split second back in time, so it's atoms occupied the same space in time at the same time, and oh man, was that a terrifyingly impressive display of weaponry the Imperium didn't even know it had
I'm pretty sure that the Imperium would have problems with the inquisitors, Darth Vader, Starkiller, and the Emperor's Hand. Probably would mistake them for psykers
@@aarontoles5988 The dark side is nothing like Chaos. The dark side of the Force and the Sith belief in it represents the view of manifest destiny; "I want to rule", not "I want my soul to be damned to the forces of hell itself.", as was the case with Horus and the fall of the other Primarchs at the end of the Great Crusade. A Sith Lord would not magically be a follower of Chaos or even weak to Chaos' influence. The Sith as such as recent as Plagueis and Sidious time, seemed to hate and refuse to acknowledge the existence of the Ones, the family of Celestials who are all for intents and purposes, "Gods" of the Force. Plagueis even refuses to accept the Sith should ever bend knee to the Son or the Mother (Abeloth) who are the personifications of the dark side itself.
So honestly no, I don't see an issue theoretically between say Vitiate's revitalized Sith Empire or Valkorion's Eternal Empire. The former and the much latter Galactic Empire are both extremely xenophobic, autocratic meritocracies, the only main difference compared to the Imperium is that the Galactic Empire was much more...subversive in hiding its xenophobia. Non-humanoids in the Mid and Outer Rim were treated like chattel, their rights were third class and slavery was permitted with Hutt Space as long as it benefited the Empire with its labor needs. The Sith Empire of Vitiate however was much more outwardly xenophobic, many alien races that were members of the Old Republic were driven to extinction or outright enslaved.
Ultimately, it would be an eye-opening moment if the High Lords of Terra, the Emperor of Mankind, and Roboute Guilliman were to learn of the existence of another galaxy that was ruled largely by humans and near-humans who had vastly faster means of FTL travel, the ability to use psychic powers without any connection to the Warp and the Sith heading it.
@@coffeecake4963 true. But if the Emperor of Mankind was in Star Wars, he would probably like the Jedi more as they are more easy to control and they are all about holding peace and not into power.
Also I can see Emperor striking a deal with Mystics of Voss, considering that they were able to look into thousands of years into the future, that could've been used to prevent Horus heresy for sure.
I love the moment when the Librarian visibly WTFs at VADER powering through lightning at the end.
Vader: * barely survives against a fight with 1 astartes *
The rest of the chapter: have you heard of our lord and savior *the emperor?*
Well he’s likey gonna be able to handle most astarties, only Liberians and possibly chapter masters would stand a chance
@@historytank5673 i dont know man thats a hell of alot of bolter fire
@@YaBoyTroy1138 fair point especially after this fight
@@historytank5673 it is fair to assume that bolter rounds cant be blocked by lightsabers same as slug throwers in star wars so.........
@@YaBoyTroy1138 Force Users could stop the bolt shells mid flight, creating a barrier of force around them. Vader is certainly powerful enough to hold that for quite some time. The bolts likely wouldn't explode either as they wouldn't be hitting anything to make them react, only being held in place by the force.
Overall Vader dumpsters most Astartes. I am a bigger 40k fan than SW fan saying that too.
"I don't like Warp. It's destructive and deceptive and corrupting, And it gets everywhere." Primarch Skywalker
Magnus vs Skywalker force duel
I love the lightsaber effects after Darth struck the marine in the armor. How the glow faded away slowly was a nice touch that really shows attention to detail. Nice job!
Powerscalers are cringe. Canon Vader has blocked bullets, lazers, and other fast attacks. He's soloed entire armies, chock slammed actual gods, and most importantly, he looks absolutely badass while doing it. Vader would be a unit in 40k as long as he doesn't try to square up with anything bigger than a chapter master
Chapter masters can fight gods?
@@kmflowtimelordmal5446 They fight demons, who are infinitely small fractions of gods. Impressive, but not universe threatening like one of the star wars gods was
@@JosephSchmidt-hm2vo They can and have fought avatars of gods. I don’t recall Vader fighting actual gods, but I do remember him fighting an avatar of a powerful Sith.
I love both universes so if Vader has legitimately fought a god heads up, I’d like to know where. As it stands, I think OP has it right, he’ll hold his own against most, but not against the best.
@@Manuel-dg2tl it was the mortis arc of the clone wars series, he overpowered two mortis gods at once. Just one was said to be strong enough to splinter the universe. Even if his power was halved by his wounds at mustifar that's still 1 godlike being
@@JosephSchmidt-hm2vo I know of it. Even if the legend of the mortis strength was true, they displayed the same feats as a greater daemon. Which is saying a lot. I’ll concede and say Vader is at chapter master rank.
I’ll even give him the honor of comparing him to Kaldor Draigo. Though Vader would lose to the eons of battle experience Draigo has.
Space Marine: "You... should have aimed for the head!"
Vader: “As you wish”
If it were a Primaris Librarian, I’m not sure a single stab like that would have immediately bodied him.
Vader: thanks for the tip.
@@gunbreakerplays eh, it's more like one stab, then his grey matter gets flash boiled
@@sgtreznov6525 The new primaris space marines can have 90% of his dead cut off and still fight back, its stupid I know but it happened.
I love how heavy both sides feel, you don't feel like this is jut another fight. Each side is putting all their weight and effort into each strike, movement and blow. But i also will say i love how Major Kill respected BOTH fandom's here! It's honestly great to see Darth Vader walking up to the space marine in the menacing posture, it feels like the Space Marine isn't afraid but confused on how did he get bested by a fucker with asthma. Honestly this is some great work by you and the animator!
0:57 That deflection turned into a slash was so satisfying. Loved it.
The animator knew what he was doing. That's an actual technique I've seen in HEMA with a saber.
At first I felt there was no way a Space Marine Librarian would lose to Darth Vader with all their abilities. But then I considered this is a basic chapter librarian against arguably one of the most powerful Sith Lords in Star Wars and then it became acceptable.
Then again, while he is Darth Vader, even the strongest foes can be felled by psykers. Thats why the Thousand Sons are one of the strongest chapters
Yeah, were it a thousand sons librarian it could have won, but vader has slightly better force powers and a better weapon
@@crimsongogetama7985 In terms of psykic strength, i see Vader on a par with a Gray knight and Sidius with Malcador
@@Dreckigerdan164 Malcador is basically Sidious but competent
@Dreckigerdan164 Vader in Legends would most lirkly body space marines but this obviously took a more cannon approach to vader.
0:54 love the detail, the marine was taken aback by how fucked up Vader's mind was.
He realized he fucked up
Space Marine has seen a LOT of f'd up things too. For him to stutter is something.
He underestimated the sheer magnitude of hatred a being could have for sand.
🤣@@AceKiIIjoy
Nothing in vaders mind would make a space marine even blink
Space Marine; "Now, heretic, I grant you the Emperor's final mercy."
Darth Vader: "You know nothing of the Emperor's will nor the power of the dark side!"
*super hardcore battle ensues*
Seriously though, awesome animation. Loved the Astartes' psychic attack and Vader powering through the lightning to finish him. Great stuff.
Honestly I can see the space Marines fear
Not really of dying but is terrified amount of strength
And now that Darth Vader has learned The abilities of a space marine He can much easily kill them So the space marine in turn betrayed the imperium of man.
That is where I believe his fear would come from
his ultimate failure and betrayal
Vader would probably think this was yet another of the Sidious' tests to replace him.
@@reddawn1873 I don't know, each chapter seems to have different methods that the Smurfs don't tend to use if at all. Blood Angel would be a hard chapter to fight not to mention others.
I thought most space marine chapters, including ultramarines, didn't allow psykers
@@Stalvindsforge
All chapters would be hard to fight.
Very clever at the part where Vader stabbed the Space Marine Librarian. Some people forget the amount of redundancies Space Marines have. As Marvel Comic's Marneus Calgar series (Which is actually pretty good) has him note at one point, and I'm parapharsing here:
"Yes, he has pierced my primary heart... luckily however, *the Emperor gave me two"*
And 3 lungs
So what your saying is that Warhammer is apart of the marvel universe?
So spiderman and marneus could cross universes?
@@Ross-qp8eq Marvel Comics is publishing or had published some 40K comics for Games Workshop. Though no crossovers with their mainline superhero comics (Yet).
Was that Space Marine a Librarian? No wonder......
This had a better storyline than most modern Star Wars content
As a massive WH fan and even ultrasurf lover I’m still glad Vader won. He’s just dat boi. This was ultra sick and well done 🤙
Another ultrasmurf lover! we march for Macragge Honorable Battle-Brother!
Why tho? Vader has been a failure in everything he's done, in both canon! The real one and the Disney one...
Considering that even after the first lightning strike, Vader had to adjust the life support apparatus on the go, after several shots of the capilan's lightning, all the electronics in the Sith Lord's armor should have burned out.
Therefore, in this battle there is no winner (although Ultramarine was more fortunate if he died instantly, pierced by a lightsaber, But Anakin was left to die from asphexia (or a burned out nervous system) crushed by the heavy Duraplast)
@@sodom9168 he’ll live cuz he’s angry 😡 haha
@@1r0zz that’s cus all he’s surrounded by if fear and dead men 😎
Though the battle was won by the sith, the war was inevitably lost to the might of the Imperium of man.
The original script included Vader looking up into the sky to see the Imperium's fleet absolutely decimate his so you aren't wrong there
@@majorkill would have LOVED to see that. Looking forward to the next animations! Best WH channel ever
@@majorkill Always love fleet on fleet combat, especially when one has cathedrals that look like star ships.
@@majorkill It's a trap
If it's canon empire, the imperium has just exhausted military resources, that hastened their decline significantly. If it's legends empire the greater imperium doesn't last another millennium, unless the emporer himself comes back.
Interesting choice to not have the space marine shoot him while their blades were locked. Literally had that in the space marine 2 trailer, the plama pistol didn't hurt him the first time but that does mean Vader's simply immune to it. That being said that space marine armor was great looking, I do love me some shiny gold
У них болтеры!
I don't think a normal space marine would stand a chance against vader tbh unless he's s veteran or a librarian
This one is a librarian. He shoots lightning xd.
Allso it is based on majorkills vid Vader vs space marine and in thus marine was a librarian
Yeah, space marines were often defeated by human psykers. So they would be no match for vader
A single Space Marine.
Vader would kill.
A Tactical Squad (5), Vader could take
A full squad or above. Doable for Vader on a good day
Anything more and Vader's gonna lose. He'll take some with him. But he wouldn't win
Or grey knights maybe
I'd actually say anything short of librarian or primarch wouldn't stand a chance. The reason is, what that ultramarine did at the beginning of the fight. He read Vader's thoughts, his memories and used them to psychologically attack him. Vader can do that too, although he wouldn't use it as offense, he'd use it to read his opponent's attacks and counter them accordingly.
Seems like Vader's main weakness here was being caught unaware by a new type of enemy. The librarian fell for a trick anyone would get surprised by knowledge of Vader or not, Vader only got hit when 1) wtf this guy shoots lightning? 2) wtf this guy has two hearts? It would be cool to see a second animation where he has learned a bit more to see how quickly he can improve his marine killing.
Well... i could understand stopping him with the force but he'd still have some trouble of taking him out with only that (see astartes animation), 2nd thing if they got into melee vader loses after one swing... he has mechanical arms but they aren't even close enough to withstanding a marine.
@VolfHex The psyker crushing the marine helmet in Astartes has a weaker ability than Vader's force. Vader can deflect lasers, bring down high speed vehicles, crush vehicles, etc. If the space marine is a walking tank, Vader can still crush it imo. Also, Vader isn't just some normal dude who happens to have mechanical arms. His physical strength is bolstered by 1) the skill to deflect and manipulate blows 2) force spaghetti. A marine using a bolter would probably find his bolter exploding in his hands, and then he'd be killed while unable to draw his knife due to being force gripped. Melee not needed! It could play out quite a few ways. I don't see Vader not being able to win 1v1 most non-named humans in 40k. He'd probably get his shit kicked in by an Eldar psyker though.
@Alistair O To the weaker psyker ability part, i'm not so sure bout that one. Psykers from astartes are able to just bounce the bolter rounds and send a wave straight at the shooter, i'd say the forces are similar-ish in strenght it seems weaker because it's an astartes there. Skills to deflect and manipulate blows? that's standard astartes training. Though i will agree, vader propably could 1v1 a basic astartes, hard time with a librarian though.
@@alistairo314 the physker was using his eyes to crush the space Marines helmet but darthvader uses 2 of his finger to adjust the force choke or he could just make a fist and destroy the space marine helmet with ease
People tend to forget just how astronomically strong Vader is
Palpatine could drain planets of life on a whim and Vader is supposed to be much much stronger
Trying to attack Vader using Anakin’s memories was a dirty and smart move!
My money was always on Vader, though: the dude’s OP as hell.
The biggest baddest 40k villain should fight vader. Who would be the 40k equivalent? Horus?
His neck muscles will be too much for even a force choke to have any effect. A slight discomfort.
In the original thesis video, Majorkill points out that the Librarian here is a centuries old veteran, but also an unnamed character since someone like Mephiston would completely body Vader.
Skywalker's tough, but nothing compares to the insanity that is 40k. Lol
Trying to attack him with his past was a mistake. He just managed to fuel vader's anger and that makes him even stronger
The problem is than that tactic would only work on a jedi, siths use emotions as fuel for their power, anger and suffering being the main ones... so being attacked with his memories would only fuel vader powers.
@@kennuimuffins2426 I'd like to see Abaddon Vs Vader, I think we know who would win but I still think it would be a good fight.
Should be clear, not a space marine but a librarian. Vader would’ve smoked a standard bolter wielding marine.
Canonically, palpatine had vader’s suit designed to be susceptible to lightning, making the space marine a more powerful foe than a lot of things
Vader didn't design the suit Palpatine did
@@panchopeanut6486 It's different depending on which canon. Legends his suit was designed and limited by palpatine for fear of vader overtaking him. In canon the life support built into his chest was designed and built by a character called cylo. The rest of vader's suit/cybernetics were designed and modified by himself.
@@panchopeanut6486 I meant his suit has been designed, not by him, to be weak against lightning, not he has made it like that
That's because that's some of the silliest and dumbest writing I ever heard.
In canon, Vader made updates to his suit so he could fight his enemies more effectively after his quest to claim a lightsaber crystal from a Jedi, so it makes sense he would build it tougher.
This was so incredible!
in my head i was waiting for the Space Marine to cry out "FOR THE EMPEROR!!", and Vader to be like . . . . . . WTF??
Now we wait for the debate to open like a river.
I will just say that librarian was a lexicanum, the lowest librarian rank in a chapter.
The librarian here just showed three tricks, when there are dozens of psyker abilities in 40k.
A Librarian is still a Librarian. At worst they are still among the most potent psykers in the Imperium.
@@seandlax9
It heavily depends on the librarian psychic mastery and skill. Also his psionic level.
Psykers are still dangerous by themselves, one could boil your blood or snap your organs. Also turning their flesh into living metal.
Give the animator a break pulling out all the psyker madlad shit would be hard to edit in and if your librarian sees how effective lighting is I beat he's (or you as a table top player) spamming the shit out of it.
The list of bullshit op force ability’s is also incredibly long as well though 😂 movies only show a bit
@@itsyuboi3218
Legends best feat was the storm force by palpatine and sucking planets.
40k has guys like Cacodominus who destroyed 1300 planetary system and his dead killed billions of astropaths across the galaxy.
That punch probably crushed more than half of his ribs if not all, vader a real one for pushing through it.
Honestly, him using Anakin's memories to attack him is what sealed his fate, it just made Vader more pist off which in turn made him stronger
librarian: i will torture you with your deepest sorrows, and greatest pains! vader: jokes on you im into that shit
@@exoblade7620 vader was like oh really so you don’t wanna win?! Please continue to feed my inner force power.
Only reason he had a chance
It's definitely a fight of who has a better grasp on their powers. I think it would be different if the force was kind of like the warp.
@@thebignappp Haha no. Vader is more of a monster then you think.
Company commander Pyrus Branar of the Ultramarines could not help but feel elation as the grey ship plunged into the planetary atmosphere on his display. With each moment this battle was turning in his favor, and it felt exhilerating. Truth be told, he felt fortunate this new adversary had such a weak navy, this Admiral Thrawn had composed himself well in the face of the imperial navy's guns, and more than once was he supprised by his adversaries intuition. But no more, the one thing that was holding absolute victory from him was gone, dust in the wind of the planets desert storms. How ironic, that this false empire mistakenly thought it to be lush with life and vegation. For the past several months, they had been stricking deep in the imperium, destroying the less guarded agricultural worlds of the imperium, in the hopes that they could cause mass famine on the forge worlds that powered the imperial war machine. Intellegence reported that their ships were guided through xenos psykers called skywalkers, and with each planet they destroyed, trillions of imperial citizens would be consigned to death by starvation. It was cowardly means of attack, but it was proving to be more and more effective with each planet lost. Sensing the imposing crisis, roubuttee guilliman called upon Branar and 3 companies of ultramarines to deal with the threat. For months now, they had been planting false information in the imperium, labeling this death world an agricultural paradise, and like a dumb grox, the empire took the bait. The ensuing naval battle had been suprisingly fierce, this thrawn commander proving to be quite capable, and this death star had inflicted a costly toll on Branar's naval assets, but neither Thrawn nor this death star were the things holding him from victory. For the past 40 minutes he had been straffing the death star, steering clear of its main laser while he launched drop pods upon its surface. He had seen the combat reports, the infantry forces of this new enemy had no force capable of effectivly combating space marines, and he had hoped that a successful boarding would render the death star useless, but each drop pod was halted, not by the turrets or fighters of this enemy, no he had taken all of those into account, his transhuman mind calculating each factor perfectly. But an enigma, a sheer, unforseeable enigma. A lone fighter, it was different than the other fighters of this empire, larger and more robust, but it was far quicker, and was piloted by what can only be described as a wraith. He had lost 30 of his battle brothers to this enemy, its torpedoes and blasters rendering each pod space born debris, and he felt a burning hatred for this pilot, far more than any enemy across his 400 years of service. He had sent fighter after fighter after it, but every time it would survive. It bobed and weaved through swarms of thunderhawks, and left many of his best pilots cold husks in the void. It was guided by a will that could best be described as precognitive, seeming to see each threat before it happened, each bolter salvo and torpedo was avoided with inhuman ease. He had seen this before, eldar pilots who had made arial combat a sort of dance through centuries of training, but from the reports this empire had nothing near that level of skill and precision, and he cursed himself for being so trusting in faulty intelligence. This enemy may be better than any fighter in his command, but he has other ways of bringing this heretic piolet down. 5 pods launched from the ship, heading directly towards a blazing section of the death star, where it's shield is inactive, once again the lone fighter turns, going in close to fire upon the pods before quickly turning away. He could see the future, how else would he know that the drop pods were filled with explosives, but it was too late, with the press of a button the ship was crippled, falling to the planets surface. "Call librarian Cytrix and what remians of delta squadron, i won't the pilot of that vehicle dead." Branar could taste victory now, and it tasted good.
Great writing, loved it!
wow just wow
Dude awesome writing
Vader’s armour was especially vulnerable to force lightning according to lore, palpatine’s few seconds of shock was enough to kill him, seeing him go through so much psychic lightning here is kinda crazy. And also that second heart was a nice detail to the space marine, Vader seriously thought a stab would do it to the marine, welp, you wanna kill a marine you gotta use more violence lol, welcome to 40k I guess, where everything requires excess violence to kill.
Is there any particular reason you are pretending you have any idea what you are talking about, or...? Hint; somebody who can survive over a minute of sustained lightning from people like Starkiller are 'weak' to lightning in the same way a human being is 'weak' to being run over by an 8 wheeler.
Vader is a pretty tough dude! Much of his ability to take damage as well as other fluff comes from Legends and Force Unleashed (though the story of that game and writing material is technically non canon)
@@papapalps2415 idk anything about space marines but the suit darth vader has was literally made to be weak to lighting to make him feel like palpatine (the designer of the suit) was stronger than he was when it was actually the opposite. Once again idk much about space marines or how strong that lighting was but it was definitely enough to kill darth Vader, atleast after the fight and to say that he wouldn’t is just plain stupidity
@@runningoutofnames3CS No, it wasn't, and no, he wasn't (no, really, do people actually still think Vader is top dog even in the year of our lord 2023...?)
I don't know if this was stated in lore, but as palpatine is one of the strongest force users ever his force lighting must be something else
"A Jedi?!"
"A Psyker?!"
I don’t think that space marines feel fear but imagine seeing a smaller being looking towards you while your using such a attack it would be terrifying on par with when yoda absorbed palps force lightning
in a sword fight the space marine would win by the time they become one they already had more battle experience than vader has in his life time, this particular space marine has enough experience for 3 vader life times
@epope98 lightsaber combat is augmented with force capabilities that have predictive qualities, able to foresee combat maneuvers before they occur.
@@epope98 said like someone who has no idea what vader is capable of, which you'd know if you read the books--and im talking legends and canon
Darth Vader: "Oh you're approaching me. So instead of running away, you come to me?"
Space Marine: "I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer, heretic!"
Darth Vader: "Then come as close as you like, fool!"
Space Marine: "For the Emperor of Mankind!"
Darth Vader: Wait, what?
No line of dialogue has ever been improved by appending "fool" onto it. It makes the writing look amateurish.
@@stormisuedonym4599 So when Tolkien wrote a line like that it was amateurish
@@kellerblair2952 "nigurendayo! B- You fools!"
-Gandalf
Vader would more use a variety of "Then you will die braver than most." if anything.
This is probably the best example of most of the "would they survive Warhammer 40k"
In most cases it's likely the character can beat a space marine but as seen from the end the problem comes from how much it took to kill the marine.
Vader can kill a marine, but his survival afterwards is what's in question. He'd be fucked up from the fight, that really messes with survival odds
Especially since marines so rarely fight alone. He's going to get found out by the rest of that marines squad.
Also you need to question if the marine is actually dead. They survive wounds worse than that all the time, its possible he is merely unconcious. There are stories of Astarties with litterally half their head missing still alive and sometimes combat capable.
@@cgi2002 “Just pop what’s left of the Astartes in a dreadnought, they’ll be fighting again in no time”
@@cgi2002 Idk if a lightsaber blade lingering inside his skull is survivable even by a space marine. They can take incredible damage but every second that blade sat inside of his skull it just continued to melt and incinerate his brains, like what happened to the double blast door that Qui-gon melts through in Episode 1.
@@zuriel6612 that blast door scene was analysed by if I remember by Kyle Hill (YT science guy) and using basic steel as its replacement for the door, numbers were crunched. It made lightsabres into a truly terrifying weapon (that and other scenes), they do feats that require frankly startling amounts of energy. Their power output is nearly comparable to the surface of a star in how rapidly it melted the metal door. With those numbers in mind merely activating it would kill everyone within 1000 miles instantly (it's that kind of hot).
But since that doesn't happen and how they behave (they don't when used in the rain constantly generate constant steam for example) their in universe lore is messy and clearly they aren't hot except when in contact with solid matter. So I based the attack not on it been a super heated energy blade anymore, as it's not technically in contact wit LG the brain anymore as it instantly cauterized the wound.
If it used the "heat damage" approach, its likely instantly fatal (his brain would turn into steam instantly and his head explode).
But then this was also a psyker, his "brain" isn't nessersarily in his head, he could have used warp magic to distribute itself throughout his body (or yours, or turn it into a pebble, the warps weird like that), that's not unheard of in 40k. That or just used warp powers ahead of time to make it so a fatal would will heal itself after the fact. Basically if you can think of it, the warp has a way to do it. Likely truth however is he is dead, but he won't mind, he has 999 brothers in the legion.
And then Darth Vader, exhausted and injured, looks up to see the rest of that librarian's squad walking up to him.
_"Oh right,"_ he recalls, _"There's millions of these guys-"_
That punch after the Marine gets stabbed is so satisfying. The way it syncs to the music, the buildup, everything about that is perfect.
Call an ambulance, but not for me
Absolutely awesome exchange. The only thing that would have made it better is if the punch put visible cracks in Vader's armor, which is absolutely what a punch from an Astartes can do.
I wonder where Vader would rank on a psyker chart. He's the most powerful force user in Star Wars, but the force powers he has demonstrated are maybe on par with a Beta-level psyker in the Warhammer 40,000 universe, where Alpha-plus psykers literally cause planets to come apart on the seams and are capable of tearing reality apart to the point of causing hell (the warp) to spill into their reality.
Alpa would be Nihilus.
@@kacperkonieczny7333 that would be my first guess as well.
Majorkill put him between a librarian and a chief librarian in his analysis video. Obviously, Vader can beat a librarian. However, it was concluded that Mephiston or Tiberius would take the Sith Lord out.
Anakie in the clone wars comics once destroyed a dreadnought it was calculated by death battle in obe wan vs someone.
I mean Nihilus can eat planets and Luke in Legends can move black holes
Yeah, Palpatine purposefully had Vader's suit designed such that an electric attack would cause the failure of his life support, so unless there is a very close and very convenient place to get repairs, he's screwed.
Actually he can last a good while with his suit damaged by using his self hatred
he's tanked that before using sheer fucking rage to persevere and win
Enter R2D2...."Look, what do we have here R2?"😂
A very specific type of lightning. It wasn't just all lightning. It was Palpatine's force lightning that he wanted Vader to be vulnerable to.
I don’t think Vader’s suit is designed to fail when hit by electricity (because in a galaxy where I’m sure electric energy and weapons that utilize it would be fairly common, that would be an unreasonably large liability). More likely it’s designed to be highly susceptible to _force_ lightning, which is powered by hate and quite literally drains the life out of a person.
Finally someone understands, yes Vader's weakness is Lightning but you could clearly see him endure a ton of it, for instance he was once struck by entire city's Lightning source, so I think Vader would have enough stamina to stand still but he would be kinda exhausted
At 1:54 I feel like you could almost FEEL Vader's rage here, he had spent a life time of training, killing, battling, and more just to be nearly done in by some strange man in bright blue armor. You can just SEE him deny being the first one to die in this fight, and by simple bloody shear determination and dark side energy forced himself to walk over to the space marine and do him in.
Imagine if he survives.
Vader: Agh, finally, that was the hardest fight I had, barely made it.
A thousand more Ultramarines: Hello there
Vader: _Internal screams_
man, a space marien librarian has lived for centuries of "training, killing, battling, and more", Vader is just a newbie 👶
Какова будет его реакция когда он узнает что этот солдат один ничем не отличается от миллионов подобных ему по одной только технике боя, физической и ментальной силе. Или когда он узнает что у космического десантника два сердца
@@Akattama He already got that space marines got a second heart. That's why he didn't bother with central mass attack and went for the brain. As for millions other Astartes...Vader's got the Will of The Force...if one can fall so can they all.
Basically the Emperor of Man + All the Chaos Gods need to combine their power to rival The Force.
@@akimbanguehe3454 Lol what? Says who? The force can't even mind control strong minded people. By contrast the warp can twist anyone into a servant of a chaos god, grant actual immortality, time travel, create whole worlds from nothing, and the Emperor might actually be stronger than them.
I'm surprised Vader tanked that warp lightning for as long as he did, considering his cybernetics' vulnerability to electricity.
The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some consider unnatural
Vader can tank a ridiculous amount of damage by channeling his hate into pure power. Of course, as soon as the enemy was dead, Vader was done for.
It looked like some of it was malfunctioning. It's worth considering though that pain probably does nothing to incapacitate him though, as long as his body works in some way it probably makes him stronger.
@@scoia-tael33 XD
When your master breaks starship fleets with his lightning, and you, as a Sith Lord, want to overthrow him, you have to adapt.
the punch at 1:39 felt really heavy, so, really good job on the animation and sound design
Yeah that must hurt
My only problem with it is that even without power armor, space marines cant life around a thousand pounds. The punch should have cored him, if not sent him flying
vader couldnt hit a space marine hard enough with his fist to do anything, on the other hand the sm could remove his head with a punch
@@epope98 Well, Jedi do shatter metal with their fists and Vader's arm *is* a bionic. But yeah, space marines are made of sturdy stuff.
It makes sense how Vader struggled in the duel considering the detail of him using both hands while the space marine used one. His style is based around overwhelming his opponent in sheer strength, and when that's out of the question (such as in this case), he has to use his head.
Okay, I'm actually impressed by this. Was expecting the usually one sided favor while completely ignoring the strength an abilities of the other. Rare sight indeed. It would be very interesting to see how the empire an the imperium fair against one another. No I don't see the imperium out right winning, there are many things in the empire and star wars universe in general that would prove rather difficult for the imperium to deal with. However the empire would have no less difficulties for similar reasons just in different categories. Well done!
They will not defeat the Empire
Type in "fan with too much time" to get more like this, but you will be busy for days.
@@markusbarten455 You've got my attention with that one, I'll do just that. Busy for days? Good. Means I won't run out of cool fan made stuff in a hour lol
yeah, while the imperium has more powerful weapons, there is no warp in the galaxy, only the force. Which means that all psychic abilities of the imperium would be nullified if they tried to invade the star wars universe.
On the other hand the empire is outgunned here as their 25000 star destroyers are not as powerful as the imperiums battleships.
Space marines would be a great problem as they appear to be near undefeatable by physical means unless facing force users or huge mechs. Palpatine would maybe even have to use his full powers to kill off some space marine legions.
@@lukinator6486 If you take some expanded universe sources into account (the relatively recent Darth vader comics) there is a place in Starwars that is basically the warp, it is just not the dominant force in the galaxy. The Darkside is also technically Chaos before hitting critical mass.
This was an utterly superb fight. The animation was even more fluid and flawless than the Doomslayer vs Space Marine fight.
And although Space Marines are nothing to laugh at, it was wonderful to see my man Vader remind us all why he’s the best.
I imagine if it was against Kylo Ren, the Space Marine Librarian would’ve won hands down.
Agreed.
Anything below vader level would be curbstomped.
Tbh kylo could probably be handled by clones or a guardsman long as theyre good and dont back down. His lightsaber work is sloppy, hes prone to tantrums, and doesnt seem to have the best situational awareness
@@marsar1775
Exactly.
I would love to see Space Marines against Halo Spartans.
@@adman1381 that would be awesome! Though i dont think the spartans would win in a fair fight. Not because of inferiority but they just arent built to be tanks. I bet after some friendly sparring spartans and space marines would get along tho. Long as nobody has their ai with em
Or against Mary Rey Sue as well.
Finally, and opportunity to introduce 40K to my friends both imaginary and real.
i dont think this is a good example
@@matiasdiaz8913 Why not?
@@williamhenning4700 1:20 Vader would have had his arms snapped like twigs if you're going for the *real* aspect as you claim. This is heavily catered towards star wars fans.
@@TheMapleKitKat Strength feats for the Librarian?
I'm convinced that in a crazy cross-over, the Imperium of Man would completely annihilate the Galactic empire... both on planet surfaces and in space
You are correct
When you see 40K vs match up which isn’t just “my dad could beat your dad”:
“it is”
“acceptable”
When you see a space marine die in a worthy battle, not just due to plot armour on the opponent’s side: “Our brothers have fallen” “they have died well”
Seriously good job!
Was on the edge of my seat all the way through!
That punch from the space marine would've felt like a truck driving into your chest. Broken rib cage, crushed organs and internal bleeding. It would've destroyed Vaders life support systems in his suit.
That's why he didn't live much longer after that. Death isn't instant with adrenaline and the force. Unless u go the head of course like Vader did
Yep i thought the
same
Vader is known to survive with his life support system completely turned off, purely through channeling his hatred into the Dark Side.
You're forgetting about his plot armor...
It's asuit of armor with life support systems though, not just a life support system. We see in the movies that it reflects blaster fire, so I'm pretty sure it's made of Beskarr (not that knowledgeable about star wars though).
The fact that one Space Marine is this badass, engineered and otherwise really shows you how insane our Galaxy is in the 40k
It’s just completely built different
@@thealphaomega4888literally😂😂
I don't really agree with the depiction. Vader has the ability to literally just crush the dude in his armor. Space Marines are obscenely strong, but Vader can literally hold a spaceship at like full thrust. That's astronomically difficult.
@@Obscurite1221this is not just a "space marine" its their version of a Jedi and he would smash any sith or jedi.
@@mayoluck Librarians really aren't all that strong in the grand scheme of things. They're like a 5 in the psyker spectrum. The average gray knight is stronger than most Librarians, and Librarians are mildly above the average throne fodder. The Emperor is like 4 trillion in comparison. WH40k definitely scales higher than Star Wars, but Vader would 100% crush a standard librarian.
The fact that Vader could lose to a Space Marine just shows how much stronger the Warhammer universe is, Star Trek wouldn’t stand a chance if they got involved
1:17 I am 90% sure that Darth Malgus uses that move to kill a Jedi in the "Deceived" Old Republic Trailer.
True, I really like his move where he uses his other hand that is not holding his lightsaber and just grabs the opponents lightsaber
(I think that is how the move works)
To be honest, it makes sense to me that a Librarian may face Vader in 1v1 and have a decent shot at it.
The best part of course is to watch them fight from the pov of an Imperial Guardsman and an Imperial Stormtrooper because for them the sparring literally would last for maybe 20 seconds because of how fast both would go.
Well just putting this out there? Stormtroopers can't hit the broadside of a barn. so I think an Imperial Guardsman might an easier time.
Funny part is that it's only true cause plot armor, but canon actually shows them being excellent sharpshooters because of their training. At least, for the first half of the war, that is.@@gamepad3173
@@gamepad3173they actually have pretty decent aim when not shooting main characters
Plot armor bends any hostile action and deflects it, unless the MC taking damage is required by the plot!@@unionblue21
I don't know anything about 40k, so i could be wrong, but Vader - from my understanding of Starwars could simply force crush their entire body in their suit. The strongest force users could redirect planets, battlecruisers etc.
And the onyl reason they don't basically gravity-ball-crush thinsg like you do a piece of paper in your hand is because of other force users force barrier.
AFAIK space marines don't have access to the force, therefore no barrier. And since we saw vader force choke here and he never does this to force users that are even close to his power, my logical guess is the marine couldnt defend from it.. so if he just force crushed the marine all at once liek a soda can..... 1 shot kill.
So, no one's pointing out the fact that that wasn't an ordinary marine, but likely a Librarian, one of the most scariest kind of marines next to a chaplain that would make sith and jedi force abilities look like parlor tricks compared to a librarian's psyker's abilities.
more than a little surprised that none of the typical librarian powers were used, all I saw was Smite which is kind of basic. Null Zone or Veil of Time would have ended it fast, as may have Machine Curse by forcing Vader's suit to shut down. Might of Heroes/Might of Ancients would boost the marine's physical abilities even further and Vortex of Doom / Storm of the Emperor's Wrath would have just been overkill.
Librarian confirmed, vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/5c/Sloth2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120318232713
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Well this IS Darth Vader after all, apprentice to one of the most powerful Sith Lords of all time. He has some incredible feats under his belt that go well against even a Librarian. If it were say, a Grey Knight Librarian or perhaps an Eldar Farseer or something of that degree then maybe he would have met his match, but a typical Librarian (not to undersell how exceptional and powerful they are) can't really compare with Darth Vader of all people. Nonetheless the fight was very close, and Vader may indeed have met his match after all given the effects of the psyker lightning on his support systems, but still
@@droid88-b56 I get Vader's a a real heavy hitter in the SW universe, but the power scaling to compare between the two franchises on what each of these characters deal with on a daily basis, is incomparable. 40K is what SW would be cranked to 20 that involves literal space magic, space gods with an army of literal daemons now have human demigods in their ranks, man-eating psyker locusts that is attached to a galaxy-eating organism, billion year old robot with technology that can literally CTRL-ALT-DLT solar systems at the press of a button (no, I'm not kidding, don't need a multi-planet killer at all), and are pissed off seeing new life forms on their proverbial front lawn, space elves that that can use their psyker abilities to make new tech while able to travel through HELL with ease and craft ungodly weapons from clay while being arguably immortal, green skin mushroom boys that literally come back 10 times more when a regular human has managed to kill one and commit ludicrous feats that shouldn't be physically possible just because they believe they can, Dwarven and human tech that makes the Empire's tech and battle experiences that have to deal with all this EVERY SECOND, look like first grade science class projects as the kid's trying to pick a fight on a playground.
Comparing him to the guys you listed, is like 343 Guilty Spark looking at Chief and asking why he hasn't upgraded his hazmat suit to a proper Forerunner battle suit.
Pairing Vader up to a GREY KNIGHT LIBRARIAN of all things, is laughable. Seriously, their powers are cracked. A regular GREY KNIGHT, a fucking space marine where wielding psyker powers is actually STANDARD for them unlike a space marine librarian, would look at Vader and find his Pre- Age of Strife powers and tech as adorable before flicking flick him away with their finger because putting a bolter round to the face would be a waste of good ammo.
An ELDARI FARSEER!? A master psyker that have spent their entire lives mastering their psyker abilities to the point of seeing into the future with full on clarity? The literal SPACE WIZARDS/JEDIS of the 40K that the SW jedis wished they could be? One who have mastered the Psyker powers that are arguably greater than a Grey Knight's? Are you high? No. Just, no... This, is what we call delusions of grandeur.
Saying that Vader could even rival these guys, would need plot armor to the point level that would make him a Gary Stu. The only thing he's got going for him, is that he's got ships that has a far safer mode of transportation.
I'm sorry, I like Vader as much as you, but even I had to put my fanboyism aside for the sake after reading the lore and information of how these factions run and operate.
(all canon) When it comes to physical strength normal albiet very skilled humans in 40k have kept up and even beaten space marines, they just need augmented limbs to not be thrown about (you can read an excerpt of this happening in the novel "Traitors hand") vader's got augments, and on top of that normal force users can just augment their own strength. Its how Anakin could overpower IG-100s, 7 foot robots with super strength (remember the droid from the mandalorian, the one that held a stormtrooper by 1 hand and smashed him into a speeder till it dented, that's the same series of droid but it isn't melee oriented) Vader's been shown to throw grown men like kanan jarus 20 feet. Tear droids with his bare hands. Block strikes from a giant 20 foot minataur (while explicitly not using the force) etc. Marines have better strength feats but vader's definitely able to keep up
Speed and reaction wise vader is just better than the marine. The force lets you see the future, its literally negative reaction time. He's used it to block lazers, bullets, lightning, anything you throw at him. You can also use the force to augment your speed, and vader does it often, in lords of the sith he cut down 5 men before they could even register a thought. He's blocked bullets from all sides (and a pre-clone war obi wan has done similar feats, this is far from his peak). In the clone wars series we've seen Padawan Ashoka evade shotgun fire point blank and obi wan block bullets. If we're using legends bullets in star wars (called slugthrowers) are described as being hypersonic (Shatterpoint Novel), 5 times the speed of sound, hypersonic speeds fits with how easily force users block lightning as well,. He can keep up with palpatine who's been described multiple times as being able to move faster than ROTS anakin could even see (the same Anakin is relative to Obi Wan) Space Marines have been able to intercept bolters, which are hypersonic from close ranges, but always with great stress and never the norm, and definitely not as casually. On top of that Vader being comparable to people like Palpatine means he can speedblitz people with those hypersonic feats.
Magic Power wise vader's stopped a tsunami with a single force push, held a 100 ton starship down with its engines at full (the power of these starships are rather insane considering their speed, in ESB we see it takes Luke only 48 seconds to move from orbit to the ground of dagobah) He's closed a mountain sized creatures Jaw while midair (needing no concentration) Killed armies telikinetally without raising his hand, moved 6 torpedos telekinetically while in a dogfight. He's made force shields that stop RPGS, building sized explosions, etc
Also Lightsabers burn as hot as the sun and would cut thru ceremite like paper
"Throughout the generations, lightsaber technology was refined from those first high-maintenance 'captive bolt' lightsabers to the lightweight modern lightsabers, which utilizes a stablized, massless plasma beam that burns as hot and bright as the core of a star."
SW: Force and Destiny rulebook, which is official canon
He should be an excellent match for the librarian. Even if he had a bolter it would do very little, vaders suit has taken full volleys of bullets with no harm. If he accidentally blocks the bolter round and gets a face full of shrapnel it would just make him angrier
Love it. The only point where I disagree with the outcome is Vader impaling the Librarian, then the librarian full on uppercutting Vaders chest and just winding him. A punch from a marine would've popped his chest like a balloon full of offal.
It probably cracked ribs. Vader's suit provides a little armor, and he also uses the pain he feels to fuel the dark side to keep himself held together, like Darth Scion from the KOTOR games.
Vader is pretty tanky in general.
Maybe Vader can be tanky, but he still has a regural human anatomy, and a very damaged one. By the time he stabs the Librarian, he should be wheezing and slowed down, cause in the start of the fight, his suit is damaged, and cant function properly. And as dear sir said before me, a punch from space marine should have popped his chest. And if I want to be good willed, and Vader was able to take as minimum damage from it as possible, his armour still should have bent inwards in his chest, hence he dies.
Lets be honest here. Vader is a lot of peoples favourite, and a lot of peoples most iconic villain. We just dont want to see him loose, and we are biased towards him.
40k and especially the space marines are on a completely different power level. The only thing Vader has a slight chance is with the force. In every other aspect a space marine will obliterate him, especially if he lets a sm close to him. But... that is my opinion only.
@@tobcotab Well he was pretty much dead at the end there.
This makes sense. I get the point. But I'll imagine that Vader saw the punch in the last second and made a force barrier or something. Or plot armor. I mean if papa Smurf has it, i don't see why Vader won't.
Impressive, honours are almost even with Vader outliving his opponent for five seconds, however I reckon Vader would actually win against your standard Astartes Librarian, against an unnamed Grey Knight or a Custodian.... thats a different result
I mean even one from a different chapter could change the results
Honestly, the Astarties would splat him into paste. Vader simply is too slow and too weak physically to even survive blocking their blows in melee combat.
His force abilities "i can choke you/break your neck" to a space marine, who can last several minutes without breathing, and fight with a broken neck at full strength are going to do nothing (frankly stabbing the astarties in the face is not likely to have killed him, just knocked him out, they survive worse wounds alot). His saber skills, sure he can put his blade in the path of the power sword, and then watch his own arm and blade get smashed through himself. As for blocking eldrich lightening with a lightsaber, not gonna work, its a targetted ability, you can't block it by putting a sword in the way, it would ignore the sword and fry the guy behind it. It also doens't electrocute you like force lightening, it instead burns you to the very core, litterally melting the flesh off your bones on impact.
@@cgi2002 I'm going to have to disagree with you there friend. Especially considering you seem to be missing some crucial information, at least regarding Vader. For one Vader augments himself physically with the force. Meaning he physically has An amount of power equal to that demonstrated by his telekinesis, and considering he can crush skyscrapers with his TK, he's pretty damn strong. Not to mention he can use the dark side to further augment himself by drawing on his pain and anger. I could go on but The guy who commissioned this animation made a pretty good video Explaining all this and more. So I'd recommend watching that Instead of reading whatever wall of text I end up making. However out of curiosity, What exactly leads you to believe that Space Marines Can survive getting a rod of superheated plasma shoved through their brain?
@@stormnova9757 there are examples of Astarties taking bolter rounds to the face and not dying. Considering a bolter round is basically like a modern 40mm grenade on steroids, brain trauma seems to not be guaranteed to be fatal.
I will admit a light saber however is liable to be fatal, but then they also don't work how physics says they should (their energy output is, if you do the math with what's seen in screen in canon, actually frankly insane, they would instantly kill everyone within 1000km when turned on).
As for Vader's strength, that's questionable. His force powers are immense but his use of them is irregular, one day he throws buildings around, the next day he's getting held in a stalemate by a squad of rebels. The Astarties however, they could take appart a skyscraper about as quickly as him, a few punches to key points and it falls, and they'd know those points really quickly.
@@cgi2002 OK so I got a lot to say and ask so my apologies if this ends up being a wall of text.
1st things 1st, when you say "to the face" what do you mean exactly? Because Having a pressure wave propagate through your brain, and having something carve a hole through your brain, Are 2 very different things. So surviving the former does not necessarily imply the ability to survive the latter. Are there any examples of space Marines unambiguously Surviving Injuries that severe?
Gonna have to cut this short here, IRL calls. But thanks so much for this Awesome conversation It's been really fun ans definitely want to address your other points If I ever have the time! Regardless, have a wonderful day. :)
I mean... seriously who else did we expect to win? The guy is a high level psyker in 40k terms
A fairer comparison would be vader vs a named character... Would love to see mephiston take him out as that would be brutal...
That puch to the chest would have killed Vader.
@@USISpongeman or just any GK, if a named GK then Voldus or even Hyperion would just curbstomp Vader
Vader wouldn't be a high level psyker though. He would actually be pretty low level. Look up what alpha level psykers can do and they shit all over vader
@@123456789iron i agree on that
Darth Vader lore accurate he would have just crushed him like a tincan instead of force choking
No. He would not crush him like a tin can. You exaggerate his power.
Everyone's saying that Vader won. To me, it seems like they both died in the end. With his suit shorted out, it's a matter of time before Vader joins his foe in death.
I'd call this a tie.
AND theres only one of him, and many of his enemy, id say he lost :P
It is a tie and an awesome fight
Vader also proved several times that he can survive with his life support Higley damaged
Vader has probably survived - Maul survived worse - but he definitely won't be in fighting condition for some time.
@@balltoball1 Yeah but he wasn't fighting "the Imperium" or all space marines, just the one dude who attacked him after they both crashed, so idk if the "one of many" thing really makes sense. Would have been funny to see this fan-fic vader go against a tougher W40k opponent and just get stomped. Or like a bunch of orcs who don't give a fuck about your fancy space toys because they believe in themselves.
Time to nitpick.
Ceramite is designed to be resistant to heat, so it probably would react like Beskar to the sabre.
That hit to the chest of Vader would probably kill him instantly, considering it's not unusual for a space marine to put his fist through his enemies.
The author of this channel/video is biased and it shows, even if it was a just a standard Marine, Vader would still have an extremely hard time. Imagine if he fought a Librarian, he would get swept, he couldn't beat a Chaplain either.
@@spacedandy7935 to be fair if vader died instantly we wouldnt have this sweet animation
Isn't Ceramite also ablative?
@@spacedandy7935
Meh, I'll admit my bias but thought the Marine had it. Sure the punch would go through a normal human, but Vaders a cyborg. I don't recall if his torso is reinforced, but the Force can also be used to cushion blunt force; hence why Vader of all people to tank a Space Marines gut punch isn't too far fetched for me.
Edit: And it honestly seems like Darth Vader isn't getting up at the end so not too much bias if you ask me.
I would give Vader some benefit of the doubt, lightsabers are known to cut through almost anything, and I'm not convinced that adamantium is as durable as beskar in the realms of magic metals. Sure, it's tough as hell, but Space marines are definitely known to get killed by las-cannons, other power swords, melta, and other heat-based energy attacks similar to lightsabers in my opinion.
Well considering that Vader is a historical figure from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away I think he did alright against a superhuman soldier from the future
“Upon seeing the mind, memories, love, and trauma of the strange soldier, the astartes marine was taken aback by the pain of the strange warrior. He felt the fear, anger, hatred, depression, and loss he had felt for mere moments. He felt as though the emperor may have felt similarly to the soldier.
In before Disney and GW take this faster than Blood Ravens can.
I'm archiving this and invoking the protection of the Alpha Legion.
This is sick work and deserves to be preserved! Mad props to your team!
Hydra Dominatus!
Faster then the blood ravens you say? we've already stole it.
@@Crystal-dl9ks better you than the aforementioned heretics, brother.
The emperor protects!
I like how respectful to SW and WH40K this vide is! Most battles like this would discriminate one of side, but not in this vid! Cool work!
Dude this wanked Vader something ridiculous the hell you mean?
DC and Ben 10 fans: yeah, that kind of versus sucks
I mean, its respectful but I do think it does Vader a bit dirty. When he first stuck the saber through the guy, he should've died then and there. Light sabers would melt the insides of a person extremely quickly
@@America17760 Dude has 2 hearts and 3 lungs he's got alot of organs to work with there so its not really shocking he was still fighting. Space marines have survived worse
@@DiftingWinters-cj6fs Even if he has 2 hearts and 3 lungs, his entire body would be microwaved
Stunning animation! While I can’t say I agree with the ending, I’m still looking forward to future work from the artist.
Vader is practically Horus. Of course a regular space marine wouldnt win. It would be totally one sided if it was the comic version of Vader. 40k is a comic style universe.
@@AndyTomlins what on earth are you talking about, absolute rubbish
@@TheSpitfire2207 did you ever read the Star Wars comics ?
Shits wild.
@@juliusweinhold4135 yeah ive read the newer darth vader ones, astartes shit on him mate, they weigh like 1.5 tonne and move at a speed the human eye struggles to keep up with, there's just no way. if something that big and fast even thinks about punching you you're fucked
@@TheSpitfire2207 they dodge literal laser bolts
Yeah, I dont see a regular space marine psyker putting up that kind of fight against Darth Vader.
I'm not really sure a lightsabre could cut through ceramite that easily. Just given how it takes time for them to cut through steel doors etc.
It's a cool fight though.
the steel doors that took time were always at least 5 times as thick as ceramite armor. that saber is cutting it like red hot knife on frozen butter specially if its stabs (plus Vader is super human compared to most so there is that)
Yeah 40k is so overpowered, let them have their lightsabers.
@@Amadeo790 yeah maybe, i guess blast doors are built for shit like that.
Yeah Vaders strong but, hes not as strong as a marine no way in hell.
@@SabreJ maybe, maybe not. he has taken on characters comparable to space marines though. Durge himself is like a combination of Lucious the Eternal(with out the curse) and Karn the betrayer and this was before becoming Vader. (he did have to space him into a sun but the Gen'dai was still hundreds of years old and had the accelerated healing factor). I just don't see a generic space marine not being cut down after being outsmarted. Vader is ana amazing duelist and is constantly seeing the future with battle precognition. Don't get me wrong, chapter masters would probably defeat him if they were smart (thousands of years dont mean nothing if you cant apply them with out blinding pride)
To be fair, that's durasteel, which is some magic bullshit alloy that's stronger. Even the windows on the ships are a transparent alloy.
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Amazing work to everyone involved! Really brought the concept to life.
Good scenario as to how a fight would go down between Vader and a battle harden elite 40K Space Marine
Darth Vader: I made My Emperor looks like a Corpse.
UltraMarine: Yours to huh?