@@derrikjasper1283 I highly recommend the OR Goat aluminum scales…. The Ultimate Hogue Deka?!?! Magnacut & OR Goat Aluminum Cerakoted scales USA made EDC Beast! th-cam.com/video/Bd-afAr4yM4/w-d-xo.html
Their designs are cool. Justifying the higher price compared to other brands by saying the price is higher because of their digital experience and packaging materials is a no-go for me. I'd rather have the same knife in a crappy package and pay less for it. I don't value their online presence so much that I can justify paying a higher price for the knife.
@@EDC_Soldier like I don’t want to buy one for the sole reason that it feels like a blatant copy of the redencion. And even if it wasn’t intentional I feel as if in my eyes the James Brands reputation as a knife maker has been severely hurt because of it
@@claytonthecountryboy3272 I’ve said the same thing elsewhere, as I’m a huge Chaves fan and have 12 of his Reate made knives. But it’s not exactly, because the Chaves is full titanium with Ti or G10 show sides, while except for the titanium pocket clip the Kline is all steel, for $50-$60 _more_. It is Magnacut instead of M390 though. A closer comparison to the Kline is the always unavailable ProTech Mordax which was $120 less than the Kline when it was available.
@@overlandpup4507 They sell significantly overpriced knives of average quality and bank on their hipster image to justify the price ... you won't find a single slightly negative review on their site. They do have some nice models made by Reate, but they price them 50% higher than anyone else does for similar knives.
@@overlandpup4507they made a bunch of cheap chinese knives with poor quality control, came up with a name james brand which really doesnt make any sense from how they explained it, and then charged 2 to 3 times as much money as the brands they compete against to market at hipsters who are all about name over quality.
William collins just did a very interesting cut test comparison between Magnacut and AEB-L. William made a knife from Magnacut and followed the Heat treat of Crucible for it and compared it to his AEB-L with his heat treat of the AEB-L. The results are interesting to say the least
Yeah I think just about everyone is saying the same thing there are quite a few other companies that are also American made with much better pricing and quality control and quality overall I would take a Hogue over James brand 7 days a week.
When is Spyderco going to make a magnacut PM2? I'm honestly shocked that they have not produced this yet. Does anyone know if they are going to? That's my dream knife.
Once he said he came from Burton, it told me everything I needed to know. Jake Burton makes good quality products but almost always priced significantly higher than the competition who makes comparable or better quality for less, think Never Summer, Lib Tech, GNU, Capita, etc.
The brand has been spotty with their designs, but they deserve an award for their logo. That logo may be one of the best out there. Put it on a hat, and I might buy one.
And I work in the trades....carpenter... and I find knives with bearings just DON'T work well.....I love them for everything other than work... just get way to much debris inside the pivot and bearings
Definitely going in the right direction but still missing the mark. You guys have a poor reputation in the knife community right now but still have high prices. Additionally in the beginning ryan says they aren’t competing against companies like benchmade and you guys are targeting entry level knife enthusiasts. How are you going to charge 350 with that target audience? How are you going to charge more than companies that offer far more than you? You can’t say this knife is different because it’s made in the US either. You guys have outsourced knives to China and charged the same if not more than your US made competitors. If your packaging is more expensive than others finished products you should seriously consider making some changes. Knives are tools. It’s packaging serves no utilitarian purpose after it arrives in the mail.
@@LeatherDaddy97 couldn’t agree more. From my perspective it looks like their trying to artificially inflate the value of their knives. If you charge more it’s worth more right? Wrong.
I really like the new Kline. So I ordered the Kizer Escort in 20CV for €170 There is no way I am paying €400. It takes more than Reate alone to make good (priced) knives. Imo
This is a great design along with the materials. I could be wrong but I assume this is made by Millet and it reminds me of the Drop Perpetua (made by Millet) except the price is 3.5 times more. Of course Magnacut is likely more costly across the board than Nitro V, micarta is a bit more than G10, but I’m guessing all the small details and the packaging he mentioned drive the price way up. I understand his vision of the brand and the overall experience that he’s trying to include with the products but if they’d make a “sister” brand called Jim where it was simply a barebones version of their offerings without the ultra fine details like enamel in the engravings etc, just use super simple packaging but with the same performance at a much more inclusive price, then I think you would see this in the hands of a lot more people. That would also probably include many of the folks he envisioned carrying James Brand but who instead carry something like a Benchmade because that’s what they know and maybe aren’t willing to take the chance on James Brand simply because of the pretty significant price difference. With all that said though, it appears to be a well thought out design that’s executed well and I will always applaud using US manufacturing!
The Kline looks like a very nice and functional EDC knife. The only issue I have is the price point. I carry Cold Steel usually, do you have something that is... less expensive while being comparable to this one?
I would look at the Benchmade griptillian or the Ritter hogue. Both are cheaper and while they lack Magnacut both s30v and 20cv are great steels that are worth the money.
Great question! The Kline is on the pricey side because it is made in the USA. The James Brand has quite a few other stylish knives that cost less though: www.bladehq.com/cat--The-James-Brand-Folding--3490?sort=price_asc
@@arrowheadguys7637 sold out in seconds, both times it came up on Knifeworks. I have all 13 of the Hogue Ritter variants ever made, in both sizes, and miraculously missed the Magnacut version, and am still kicking myself. Just one missed email. It’s been out of stock for months. Hope they bring it back.
Don’t support james brand. Actions speak louder than words, which is why it’s so easy to see how phony this “brand” is. The rock climber knife design (the name slips me) but I remember actually laughing at it. The reviewers reactions were even better (we all know who I’m talking about). Plenty of other types of USA made knives to purchase from people who ACTUALLY care!
You know, I _really_ want to like this knife. I love the big hollow ground Magnacut blade. But if the steel frame were titanium it’s priced $60 too high, and for the steel frame that it is it’s priced $120 too high. I don’t care about the money you choose to drop on advertising or packaging, which frankly is a ridiculous reason to charge such a premium. Wrap it in Saran Wrap for all I care; packaging goes in the closet, the knife goes in my pocket then to a Spyderpac or Pelican case after a few days. The packaging is only kept in case I sell it. Ramon Chaves / Reate does a damned nice box with extra clip for $325 and that’s full titanium. You want $60 more than that for cheaper materials, with only the clip being Ti. Keep these materials if you want, and make more models like this then lower the price and I’m there.
CFK - koenig-shiro- I have them love them- wanted to check out the James but that price is gross- maybe it’s just me? Wonder who there target demographic is - curious if there on earth lol 😂
Idk why you would buy james brand when you can get something arguably better from just about any other brand for less money. These guys are all about the marketing, and they have brought their less than good reputation on themselves.
If The James Brand makes a budget line, they'd dominate. But the pricing for me personally is not doable. Really great looking and feeling knives. I just can't spend that money yet
I know the WE, Giant Mouse etc are great knives. I personally only buy American for my collection but man it's so hard to keep doing that with American pricing.
I'd like to know how hard they're running their Magnacut. I'm more of an edge retention guy, so I'd like to see it in the 63-64 hrc range. Magnacut at 59-61 hrc doesn't do it for me.
James has the worst customer service I have ever experienced. My $300 chapter knife has blade play. I contacted James because the knives are supposed to have a limited lifetime warranty. They do not. I was told to contact my dealer but they no longer existed. Yet I was turned away by james because I did not buy the knife directly from them. Off to the trash with james.
So micarta. Everyone’s doing micarta even Civivi for $60 So the axis lock (you stole it from benchmade when the patent was up) I don’t see $300+ here. And I own a James brand Carter and several high dollar knives. Not trying to be mean, but they’re jumping into a trend and trying to charge the same as everyone else with nothing original.
James brand is some of the most overpriced stuff I've ever seen. 350$ for magnacut and micarta, what a joke. It's not like the quality is leagues above other brands just look at metal complex's video about the James brand redstone.
After watching this and listening to the owners excuses for why their knives are priced the way they are just tells me to stay away from this narcissistic poser. He sounds like he has no idea about the knives he sells and the costs associated with them could be cut down by not spending money on dumb things like “photography” and “enamel filled logos” or “packaging”. You’re a knife company, not a instagram ad. The Barnes would sell like hotcakes if it was half the price. The Kline as well if it was just around the $200 mark. The fact that they even admit to spending money on such miniscule aspects tells me this brand won’t be around much longer
His comments and presence and how he carries himself has changed my mind about James brand as a company . But your guys pricing for what you get is not in the right spot I'm sorry but like the Barnes is way over priced as well as this one in the plus 300 dollar mark even with magnacut when you have blades like the deka doing almost the exact same thing at 150 I can't justify the price .
This dude is so full of it. If you like the way James Brand knives look and you hate money, buy one of their knives. Otherwise, buy a knife from a brand who doesn't think you're an idiot.
I don’t really care what this guy thinks about his knives. You should focus on the knife and its features so that buyers can make an informed choice. I’m not gonna go so far to unsubscribe, but definitely will start screening you guys more carefully
I’m really glad I got to see this interview, because I had always gotten the exact wrong impression from their marketing. I thought James Brand was got hipsters, by hipsters. I couldn’t have been more wrong. I was strongly considering getting an Elko for a good friend who is practical but likes to stay modest.
Support Hogue! USA made. Great designs. Better value. Great heat treat. They also use Magnacut.
Definitely enjoy my Hogue knives... I either carry a Hogue or a Benchmade as my EDC!!
I couldn’t agree more. We need more Hogue buzz. Incredible blades and great company.
Just bought my first hogue, can't wait to receive it in the mail
Got my first hogue a few days ago and its fantastic ! Hogue deka scorpion clip point !
@@derrikjasper1283 I highly recommend the OR Goat aluminum scales….
The Ultimate Hogue Deka?!?! Magnacut & OR Goat Aluminum Cerakoted scales USA made EDC Beast!
th-cam.com/video/Bd-afAr4yM4/w-d-xo.html
Their designs are cool. Justifying the higher price compared to other brands by saying the price is higher because of their digital experience and packaging materials is a no-go for me.
I'd rather have the same knife in a crappy package and pay less for it.
I don't value their online presence so much that I can justify paying a higher price for the knife.
I’m not hating on the Kline, it’s a good knife. But it’s familiar to me mainly because it’s a Chaves Redencion with a bar lock
Bruh...spot on. I came here to say the same thing.
@@EDC_Soldier like I don’t want to buy one for the sole reason that it feels like a blatant copy of the redencion. And even if it wasn’t intentional I feel as if in my eyes the James Brands reputation as a knife maker has been severely hurt because of it
@@claytonthecountryboy3272 I’ve said the same thing elsewhere, as I’m a huge Chaves fan and have 12 of his Reate made knives. But it’s not exactly, because the Chaves is full titanium with Ti or G10 show sides, while except for the titanium pocket clip the Kline is all steel, for $50-$60 _more_. It is Magnacut instead of M390 though. A closer comparison to the Kline is the always unavailable ProTech Mordax which was $120 less than the Kline when it was available.
The rich man's line of knives. Thank God for America knife makers that everyone can buy from. 🙏
Damage control now that they realize they pissed off a sizable chunk of the knife community. Spare me.
They seem like Uber hipster PNW brand but what did they do? Are they anti-gun?
Yeah. Their whole vibe gives me the impression that they are elitist jerks who hate on the self defense side of the community.
@@overlandpup4507 They sell significantly overpriced knives of average quality and bank on their hipster image to justify the price ... you won't find a single slightly negative review on their site. They do have some nice models made by Reate, but they price them 50% higher than anyone else does for similar knives.
@@overlandpup4507they made a bunch of cheap chinese knives with poor quality control, came up with a name james brand which really doesnt make any sense from how they explained it, and then charged 2 to 3 times as much money as the brands they compete against to market at hipsters who are all about name over quality.
Oh get this new knife it's like every other knife but $400
This guy is quite the buzzword generator.
very true from a business standpoint I like to call it seeding.
William collins just did a very interesting cut test comparison between Magnacut and AEB-L. William made a knife from Magnacut and followed the Heat treat of Crucible for it and compared it to his AEB-L with his heat treat of the AEB-L. The results are interesting to say the least
Yeah I think just about everyone is saying the same thing there are quite a few other companies that are also American made with much better pricing and quality control and quality overall I would take a Hogue over James brand 7 days a week.
The dude owns a knife brand.... And he prefers a partially serrated blade....
That should tell ya everything you need to know.
When is Spyderco going to make a magnacut PM2? I'm honestly shocked that they have not produced this yet. Does anyone know if they are going to? That's my dream knife.
Dope looking knife but at $350 could get a better offering in higher end materials
Once he said he came from Burton, it told me everything I needed to know. Jake Burton makes good quality products but almost always priced significantly higher than the competition who makes comparable or better quality for less, think Never Summer, Lib Tech, GNU, Capita, etc.
The brand has been spotty with their designs, but they deserve an award for their logo. That logo may be one of the best out there. Put it on a hat, and I might buy one.
Might be a 100$ hat then :P
It’s a suuuuper nice design. Check out the Kizer Pinkerton for a very similar design at less than half the price of this one.
Great designs, hella overpriced compared to other companies making knives with similar materials
Made in the USA Yes. Looking forward to this…good job…
Too little too late
I LOVE klien.... klien tools that is....almost everything they make I'll buy....
And I work in the trades....carpenter... and I find knives with bearings just DON'T work well.....I love them for everything other than work... just get way to much debris inside the pivot and bearings
Definitely going in the right direction but still missing the mark. You guys have a poor reputation in the knife community right now but still have high prices. Additionally in the beginning ryan says they aren’t competing against companies like benchmade and you guys are targeting entry level knife enthusiasts. How are you going to charge 350 with that target audience? How are you going to charge more than companies that offer far more than you? You can’t say this knife is different because it’s made in the US either. You guys have outsourced knives to China and charged the same if not more than your US made competitors. If your packaging is more expensive than others finished products you should seriously consider making some changes. Knives are tools. It’s packaging serves no utilitarian purpose after it arrives in the mail.
Its all about the name with them. They market heavily at the hipster crowd
@@LeatherDaddy97 couldn’t agree more. From my perspective it looks like their trying to artificially inflate the value of their knives. If you charge more it’s worth more right? Wrong.
nice essay!
Yep
Magnacut and USA is nice but the design looks like every knife on massdrop or kickstarter.
Dude said "our packaging is sometimes more expensive than other companies finished products"
I really like the new Kline. So I ordered the Kizer Escort in 20CV for €170 There is no way I am paying €400. It takes more than Reate alone to make good (priced) knives. Imo
I heard this was being made by Millit Knives. I wonder how they are heat treating their magnacut. They ran their NitroV pretty soft.
Cool they cloned a Chavez knife , added a cheep pocket clip and magnacut.
I love that this entire comment section is just dunking on how crappy James brand is. Overpriced, uninspired, hipster garbage.
Nice stuff here but overall the brand is overpriced and focused on marketing rather than true quality and design.
This guy......... nailed it
It’s cool to see Bruce Arians take a break from coaching football and instead focus on working with James Brand
i like how the thumb stud is raised up into the spine
This is a great design along with the materials. I could be wrong but I assume this is made by Millet and it reminds me of the Drop Perpetua (made by Millet) except the price is 3.5 times more. Of course Magnacut is likely more costly across the board than Nitro V, micarta is a bit more than G10, but I’m guessing all the small details and the packaging he mentioned drive the price way up. I understand his vision of the brand and the overall experience that he’s trying to include with the products but if they’d make a “sister” brand called Jim where it was simply a barebones version of their offerings without the ultra fine details like enamel in the engravings etc, just use super simple packaging but with the same performance at a much more inclusive price, then I think you would see this in the hands of a lot more people. That would also probably include many of the folks he envisioned carrying James Brand but who instead carry something like a Benchmade because that’s what they know and maybe aren’t willing to take the chance on James Brand simply because of the pretty significant price difference. With all that said though, it appears to be a well thought out design that’s executed well and I will always applaud using US manufacturing!
The Kline looks like a very nice and functional EDC knife. The only issue I have is the price point. I carry Cold Steel usually, do you have something that is... less expensive while being comparable to this one?
I would look at the Benchmade griptillian or the Ritter hogue. Both are cheaper and while they lack Magnacut both s30v and 20cv are great steels that are worth the money.
They would be a bit less expensive if they moved out of Portland
Great question! The Kline is on the pricey side because it is made in the USA. The James Brand has quite a few other stylish knives that cost less though: www.bladehq.com/cat--The-James-Brand-Folding--3490?sort=price_asc
@@BladeHQ its on the pricey side because its james brand
@@arrowheadguys7637 sold out in seconds, both times it came up on Knifeworks. I have all 13 of the Hogue Ritter variants ever made, in both sizes, and miraculously missed the Magnacut version, and am still kicking myself. Just one missed email. It’s been out of stock for months. Hope they bring it back.
Glad to hear The James Brand mindset. 👍
Don’t support james brand. Actions speak louder than words, which is why it’s so easy to see how phony this “brand” is. The rock climber knife design (the name slips me) but I remember actually laughing at it. The reviewers reactions were even better (we all know who I’m talking about).
Plenty of other types of USA made knives to purchase from people who ACTUALLY care!
Red stone
James Brand has a few really nice designs, but the always feel like theyre about 100% overpriced.
James Brand: Overpriced
60-61 HRC MAGNACUT is 20CV.
Nice! Seems like I’ve been waiting for my last blade hq order for months now 😂
Ohhh no..... that's not good man......
I would like to apologize for your shipping delay! We are working round the clock to get caught up. -Jim
You know, I _really_ want to like this knife. I love the big hollow ground Magnacut blade. But if the steel frame were titanium it’s priced $60 too high, and for the steel frame that it is it’s priced $120 too high. I don’t care about the money you choose to drop on advertising or packaging, which frankly is a ridiculous reason to charge such a premium. Wrap it in Saran Wrap for all I care; packaging goes in the closet, the knife goes in my pocket then to a Spyderpac or Pelican case after a few days. The packaging is only kept in case I sell it. Ramon Chaves / Reate does a damned nice box with extra clip for $325 and that’s full titanium. You want $60 more than that for cheaper materials, with only the clip being Ti.
Keep these materials if you want, and make more models like this then lower the price and I’m there.
For $350 I can get a 9mm Ruger
I’ll get both.
I have a James Folsom. It is a great knife. I absolutely love it. I have medical stuff going on and just can’t swing $350+. It seems really expensive.
A Sebenza for the Hipsters!!! Looks like a great knife but too expensive.
Idk bout the Kline... Compared to the Hogue Deka in Magnacut, I cant see why it costs over $200 more.
CFK - koenig-shiro- I have them love them- wanted to check out the James but that price is gross- maybe it’s just me? Wonder who there target demographic is - curious if there on earth lol 😂
Why is it called the James brand but the founder’s name is Ryan?
Idk why you would buy james brand when you can get something arguably better from just about any other brand for less money. These guys are all about the marketing, and they have brought their less than good reputation on themselves.
I Wish they had the cline in a little bit more affordable option.
The sharpening choil screams "This is not a work knife."
Gotta say I love my Carter. Wondering if they are going to use the disc on this model instead of the studs.
Just here to read the comments, LOL.
The comments are certainly interesting today! -Jim
Reality check:
Your prices are off.
I can’t take brand seriously as long as brand can’t take seriously it’s customers.
Period.
especially the black one
If The James Brand makes a budget line, they'd dominate. But the pricing for me personally is not doable. Really great looking and feeling knives. I just can't spend that money yet
TJB always brings out the knife pricing """"experts""""! 🤣🤣
Maybe they shouldnt insult their consumer then
@@LeatherDaddy97 🙄
Your pricing is bad and you should feel bad
The look great in the box. I’d like to see how they wear and age.
Was just wondering where Spencer’s been. Great job 👍🏻 love The James Brand, it’s quality. If you want a great utility blade, the Palmer is brilliant.
And insanely overpriced
I know the WE, Giant Mouse etc are great knives. I personally only buy American for my collection but man it's so hard to keep doing that with American pricing.
Agreed and same mindset here.
when I hear someone say good edge retention and easy to sharpen I know they are full of sh!t its either one or the other.
They’re trying to create hype and cause fomo. I’m happy with 14c28n , s30v an 45v ( I have 3v also but it doesn’t get much pocket time/use.)
I'd like to know how hard they're running their Magnacut. I'm more of an edge retention guy, so I'd like to see it in the 63-64 hrc range. Magnacut at 59-61 hrc doesn't do it for me.
Their site has it clocked at 63
Somebody introduce this man to a Samsung phone lol, completely obsoletes an EDC notepad
100%... because a pad of paper and a pen are heavy and need to be constantly recharged.
great interview
this is a cool knife
what is the watch?
I enjoyed the conversation, very interesting gentleman. Thanks
Meh. $350-$370
James has the worst customer service I have ever experienced. My $300 chapter knife has blade play. I contacted James because the knives are supposed to have a limited lifetime warranty. They do not. I was told to contact my dealer but they no longer existed. Yet I was turned away by james because I did not buy the knife directly from them. Off to the trash with james.
hello blade HQ
What up, bob!? -Jim
So micarta. Everyone’s doing micarta even Civivi for $60
So the axis lock (you stole it from benchmade when the patent was up)
I don’t see $300+ here. And I own a James brand Carter and several high dollar knives. Not trying to be mean, but they’re jumping into a trend and trying to charge the same as everyone else with nothing original.
I’ve got the Batknife the X 5. It’s sweet!
When is the James Brand going to come out with a Magnucut fixed blade..3" to 4" size?
LMAO!!! $350??
Great video and great interview. Humble guy. The James Brand makes beautiful knives.
Couldn't agree more, thanks for watching! -Jim
James Brand is sooo overrated and overpriced. There are so many more knives that are made better, use better materials, and have better prices….
James brand is some of the most overpriced stuff I've ever seen. 350$ for magnacut and micarta, what a joke. It's not like the quality is leagues above other brands just look at metal complex's video about the James brand redstone.
After watching this and listening to the owners excuses for why their knives are priced the way they are just tells me to stay away from this narcissistic poser.
He sounds like he has no idea about the knives he sells and the costs associated with them could be cut down by not spending money on dumb things like “photography” and “enamel filled logos” or “packaging”.
You’re a knife company, not a instagram ad. The Barnes would sell like hotcakes if it was half the price. The Kline as well if it was just around the $200 mark.
The fact that they even admit to spending money on such miniscule aspects tells me this brand won’t be around much longer
Never support James Brand.
Overpriced, shady marketing, fake online reviews, and hilariously poor build quality pieces (Redstone).
His comments and presence and how he carries himself has changed my mind about James brand as a company . But your guys pricing for what you get is not in the right spot I'm sorry but like the Barnes is way over priced as well as this one in the plus 300 dollar mark even with magnacut when you have blades like the deka doing almost the exact same thing at 150 I can't justify the price .
Nice knives
MAGNACUT... where i can read hardness off particular knife??? isn't that important for the knife???
Want one but way to overpriced
A bunch of haters here, "I could buy 500 hot dogs for the price of that knife"
What hrc r tehy doing the Magnacut
Ha. No.
This dude is so full of it. If you like the way James Brand knives look and you hate money, buy one of their knives. Otherwise, buy a knife from a brand who doesn't think you're an idiot.
I don’t really care what this guy thinks about his knives. You should focus on the knife and its features so that buyers can make an informed choice. I’m not gonna go so far to unsubscribe, but definitely will start screening you guys more carefully
James knives are overpriced garbage.
First
I’m really glad I got to see this interview, because I had always gotten the exact wrong impression from their marketing. I thought James Brand was got hipsters, by hipsters. I couldn’t have been more wrong.
I was strongly considering getting an Elko for a good friend who is practical but likes to stay modest.
The fact any company uses anything but MagnaCut is baffling. It’s BY FAR the best steel for knives period. It’s basically maxamet that won’t chip.
What
@@arrowheadguys7637 i wonder if he works for them