@@jessherbst810 I think TMF made it pretty clear they were TEC shocks.... I for one was not suggesting he goes crying to anyone. I was suggesting a solution to his problem.
The lack of use is the reason it happened. The Orings on the shocks are self-lubricating. When you don't use the bike, they can't self-lubricate and fail. Regardless of brand or quality of shock you would still face similar issues on a bike that gets little to no use over extended periods. In saying that, TEC don't have a stellar reputation for quality so early life failure of the seals was probably a little faster than usual.
I’ve been licensed to ride since 1967 (yeah old coot here), so I’ve experienced plenty of common and weird failures on my different rides. Don’t ever remember having a rear oil dampened shock let go though, clearly not the end of the world and an easy fix. As an aside back in the 1969/1972 time one of my rides was a 1965 interceptor. Loved the power and torque and character of the bike, but it was abused when I got it, my father and I got it to a decent point but it was a bit of work to keep it tip top, locktite was a good friend for sure. I got seduced by the easy maintenance of the metric bikes and moved in the direction. Two years ago I bought a 2019 interceptor (slightly used), and have to say that at this point of my riding life that it’s the most enjoyable ride I’ve had in some time. 😎🍺🇨🇦
If one shocker is leaking the other one may start to leak as-well . I would always replace both shockers you can get a imbalance between the two which will cause serious handling problems. It’s false economy if it causes you a Accident
I think I'm on my own here looking at the comments, but for me any bike with an oil leak near a tyre isn't leaving the garage till it's fixed! Enjoyable video as always thanks
@@crispindry2815 ...I left that in because I thought it was quite funny - I actually thought the Enfield had a dipstick that's why I looked in there first expecting to extract a dipstick (as I own several bikes I can never remember which ones have dipsticks and which have inspection windows!). I got there in the end, I was the dispstick! Thanks for watching....
A trick i use to identify tricky leaks on newer bikes ( as fluids are generally new & similar colour, oil, shock oil, brake fluid) is to tape some kitchen roll around the bottom of each suspect item ( shock, shock resevoir, brake cylinder, brake resevoir etc) and leave. The leak becomes evident as it shows up soaking 1 piece of kitchen roll pee yellow! 🙂
I do something similar, but quicker. Just wiping round every suspect component with a bit of bog roll or kitchen roll. Any leak will soon be evident if you check the material after each wipe.
Hagons are good, I've had them on 3 bikes over the years and they will build them to suit your specific weight and riding style etc so they can be tuned to your requirements. I have also heard good things about YSS shocks too but haven't tried them. If the TEC shocks are under warranty they may be able to replace or repair them and given you have a a successful bike channel, they might be worth a call in the first instance. Great upload as always 👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer a friend of mine in the bike trade swears by their monoshocks as a great option for the price. I'm going to seriously consider them next time I need a monoshock. I'm also seriously thinking of getting an interceptor and YSS are high on the consideration list if I get one. I'm not sure but I think they will build to suit specifics too, which would be useful as I am north of 20 stone! If not it will be Hagons.
Love Hagons . They make them to suit your weight. They make them in Essex. Would make a good episode. Critical of chinese products. You had a little go at me afew years ago about that .
I’d be heading straight back to Tec. You do so few miles, it’s a manufacturing defect for sure (unless the builder buggered it up) and I’d have thought they would want to avoid bad press…
I think I'd just stick the OG shocks on it for now. It'll just mean that the bike is available if you fancy a spin on it (before deciding if you'll get new shocks or if you've to wait for delivery).
Hi Missenden Flyer as you have bikes that are laid up often, even if just for a few weeks, use super unleaded fuel. I say this for the simple reason that Super Unleaded contains 5% ethanol at the most but is likely to contain none. This means less chance of water contamination or fuel separation associated with higher ethanol content. Keep up the brilliant content btw :)
Not sure if you do this but when storing bikes for a long time make sure you put in fuel that has no ethanol in it and fill the tank to the brim (no space for water vapour to collect and condense). I usually add a fuel stabilizer also but I'm in Canada and we have at least 4 months when riding a motorcycle could be considered extremely risky.
@@davidsandilands1285 E5 is better than E10 for sure and for just a few weeks is probably okay but I'm in Canada where our bikes are off the road for pretty well 4 months so fuel with no ethanol is way better - it can be hard to find but there are some no ethanol fuels out there (Shell V-Power - super unleaded - being one of them . . . at least in Canada).
@@karlosh9286 If you can be bothered, there are kits that enable you to take almost all the ethanol out of these stupid modern fuels. Perhaps too much hassle for most but for those with older machines, or those who don't do many miles, it might be worth looking into.
And the shock is made in..? I have never, in my 40 years of riding, heard of an oil leaking shockabsorber. Not in those quantities. Put the OEM ones on again. Probably for the best. Enjoy the spring! Thank you mr Flyer!
Hopefully you cleaned excess oil off rear tyre on your pre flight check,definitely don’t use until rear shocks (both) are changed as no more oil should appear as the contents have already been dumped out. Stay safe Andy.
Hi TMF, for the RE I’d go back to the OEM shocks for now. I had a shock leak on a bike before and you’ll find it will start to pogo and get worse. as other have said try a warranty route. For the duke hunting issue, could be fuel, air, or sensor, probably someone on the pani forums will have experienced similar issue. Good luck with resolving both….
If you want a similar look but something decent. YSS all the way. I had Tec on a thruxton a while ago and ended up changing them out. Had one total failure (snapped)… next set had oil loss like yours and got right out of sorts on a back road 2 up.
I’m surprised people are so quick to dismiss the RE. You’ve spent a great deal of effort (and heartache) getting her sorted. In the grand scheme of thing swap out the shocks, job done!
TEC Bike Parts’ shocks have a very poor reputation. I’ve read/heard many horror stories. If I were you, I’d go for some Hagon’s, YSS, or better yet, Öhlins😊
Andy .... A late response here swap out the original oem shocks to prevent the Enfield becoming even more of a money pit ! The obvious issue is a failed shock seal thats possibly presented itself sooner than later given they are inverted and pressurised keep up the great work with the channel Kind Regards CC
They are just trying to give you the authentic experience of owning a British bike from the 60's. It just wouldn't be realistic if it didn't leak all over your garage floor 🙂
So, a PPL holder goes out to his little plane and shock horror, notices a pool of liquid underneath its wheels. "I know", he says, "I'll just give it a little fly around and see if I can work out what's wrong" good grief.
@@TheMissendenFlyer regardless of your "small print", riding a bike with a known fault on the roads is stupid. God forbid you lost control and killed someones child walking along the path. You're an "influencer" (you shil loads of crp) so perhaps should at least pretend to be responsible and not hide behind the small print like a petulant child. You should read the thread on well known adv forum regards this video.
Oil in shocks is for damping and doesn’t affect the spring rate. It will effect the ‘bouncy-nes’ of the rear. I had a seal go on an Ohlins shock once, just a fault on a seal which is always made more likely with under use. Try spraying a small amount of silicon on the shiney slider parts of your shocks and forks to avoid stiction when not using them regularly.
All motorcycles like to be ridden regularly. I feel for the 899, the fuelling is telling you this. A tank of E5 and 100 miles of spirited riding will probably sort it out......
I'd get a set of YSS shocks. They are available in different colours aswell, to satisfy the decorum 😅 On decent suspension it shouldn't be crashy anyway..
I'm not sure I want that type again, they weren't any better than the stock ones other than they were in black (and only lasted for a few hundred miles)! Good excuse for an upgrade.....
Been riding 51 years and never ever experienced a shock failing through lack of use , I've just recommissioned a 2000 SV650 that had been stood for three years and the shock is fine . Considering the oil is all over the rear wheel first thing I'd have looked at is the shock as it looked too thick to be brake fluid, and as you said Andy you could see the reservoir showed no loss , as for checking engine oil level looking through the sight glass is the obvious place , you can't see the oil level looking through the filler hole generally all you'll see is the clutch basket blocking your view . As has been stated it's not an Enfield failing it's the poor quality shock manufacturing. Happy to say I've had my Interceptor three years now and no issues at all , it isn't my main bike but it's done 9,000 miles and going fine. Ever thought of attending a mechanics course seeing as you say you're not very good at sussing technical stuff and you own a good collection of bikes? Just a thought ? 😉
Love to have that selection of bikes in the garage, just the one at present, has been ridden over the winter, the lawnmower had its first outing since October, it started on first pull 😅 You can replace the seals on the suspension, great if you can do it yourself, if you need a mechanic though, probably less labour to get a new one.
Hi Andy. The idle issue on the Ducati seems quite similar to one I had on the Thunderbird. It turned out to be a throttle sensor that needed replacing. It kept fluctuating and couldn't remain consistent. They replaced it and it's been great since. Hope you get it sorted. G.
That Ducati most likely wants some fresh petrol and a damn good thrashing. A friend of mine worked at a bike dealer that had a rolling road. They had a guy come in with a Hyabusa complaining that it ran rough. It checked out fine. The owner was asked if he used the performance…..”Oh yes, 80mph!” They told the owner to nip down the road and get a pub lunch while they had another look. They put it on the rolling road and firewalled it. Apparently it popped and banged and threw out loads of smoke until it finally cleared and then ran like a dream. When the owner came back he was absolutely thrilled. Asked what they’d done to fix it…..”fine adjustments”.
Get them cheap Tec parts of, Mat from the dirty garage guy took 1 apart and it's shocking how badly they are put together. I mean it's not like your risking your life with them or anything. If it gave out just sitting there it'll probably give out when riding.
I just took my Honda CBF600s (2006) out after 6 months, and it lives in a cold shed with just a battery tender, and it was spot on, you cannot beat quality....
Get some decent shocks on that bike, it deserves better. Go Nitron R1s, you won't regret it. I have them on my interceptor and they are the best shocks I have ever riden on. 👍😎
Here's a sure way to alleviate the problem with little to no effort. Leave the bike out front overnight with the keys in the ignition. Problem solved. :)
As many commentators here have already suggested that you swap out the shocks, I can only add to that. The seal in the nitrogen reservoir has given up the ghost, and let the oil out. I have re-built many shocks myself, but I have a fully equipped workshop and know my way around hydraulics. Not somethig a non-technical person should attempt, as there can be very high gas pressure in the reservoir, beware!!! I have no idea what a qualified technitian would charge you to re-build those shocks (do both at the same time), or what the replacement cost will be. Might not even be worth the effort to fix them. If you were close to me, you could just pop them off and come over for a brew, and I could fix them in no time. But, Sweden is a bit far away from Missenden...
Should be easy enough to source a quality replacement pair of shocks. Think oil on the rear tyre would make me nervous in the first corners. I'm guessing you had a good clean-up.
Really enjoyed this and glad none of the other bikes had an issue. Get a new shock and then put more miles on the Enfield! Out for the first time yesterday on the Scrambler 1200 xe after a few winter mods and delighted it didn't miss a beat. Love this sunny slightly warmer weather!
@TheMissendenFlyer I think you will find the Hagon shocks to be far superior in every way. I have them on my T100 Bonneville and my son has them on his Enfield Interceptor. Ride quality is superb, especially when teamed up with Hagon fork springs.
Your ducati sounds like it's got dirty fuel or something gunged up. Had the same with my old ZXR9 had to clean the carbs & coils. What i'd do is just give everything a clean carb or fuel injectors give those a good clean.Then also give your sparks a clean while you're there might aswell. In my case that fixed the rough idling issues. Just the fuel wasn't burning as it should or wasn't able to get into a fine mist.
I would definitely get it looked at asap TMF as I would personally be very concerned it would leak oil on to the tyre when you're riding it & before you know it you're off. Or it just lets go in a big way with the same result . Looks like it's time for a new shock! I've seen Hagon mentioned a few times & I agree, good choice & value.
I have some YSS shocks on my Interceptor, front and back, both adjustable. They make a world of difference on the handling. Check them out I would say. Uncle Stew has some nice vid's on them. Btw, rear shocks are really easy to swap yourself. Front is more difficult.
When take of shocks be better have person to help as bit weight on seat might help get new shock to right postion to fit back on and removal on centre stand unloaded id thought
Indeed - I did clean the bike up before I went out and I just rode it slowly around the block....I was very aware of the potential for more oil to leak out! A case of don't do what I do......
How very authentic for a retro bike to have an oil leak, and don’t forget back in the day REs were often called Real Oilfields with good reason, so its all perfectly in character. Its just marking its territory! It didn’t feel too bad because even if it is supposedly an aftermarket “upgrade” its fairly basic suspension on a fairly basic bike. Its not exactly cutting edge race spec like your Panigale or hi-tech sophisticated electronic touring kit like the Wing!
Absolutely nothing wrong with the stock suspension on my Kawasaki W800, perfectly suited to the ride and style of the bike, but you pays your money and takes your choice.
@@ricatiman what the W800? Have you ridden one? The newer version from 2020 onwards? Its really not as bad as reported in the media. Besides the 360° firing order is the most true to classic 70’s British bikes as you can get. So expect some character and connection with the bike and the sound you get isn’t the same as bikes like the RE or Triumph with their 270° twins.
TEC - just throw them away and move on. Absolute waste of money. And yes, I've tried them. Terrible things. Hagon are a much better option although even RE stock parts would eclipse TEC for quality. If you have them put them back on for now.
Thanks Andy interesting and entertaining as always. Seriously I wouldn’t want your annual bill for running your fleet …..😊 regarding your Ducati I suspect some fresh fuel and a spirited run out will likely resolve. 👍
Tec shocks are on the cheaper side of things at under £200 and considering the saga of this bike you have most probably paid ohlins money for them. Personally I would do a bit of research there are plenty of shocks on the market, Hagon will build you a set for about £500 . You could also see if tec would help you out as this could have just been a duff oil seal.
Flipping Henry built like a gun...bice bike ..got a good collection of dope looking oil shocks from China in the shed ...doingnothing....nitroge is the go ..
Sounds like a seals gone or got crud in it which is allowing oil to pass I'd get the bike to a trusted mechanic or back to Royal Enfield. Also, the engine oil sight glass was full instead of between the two lines, from the image, looked like there's too much oil in the engine.
Assuming it is just the shock, you don't have to worry about any causing any damage. If you are going to ride it like that, be aware that the handling might be affected slightly, but it won't be anything major. I would replace both rear shocks with gold colored non reservoir shocks. Those reservoir shocks look like they belong on a dirt bike. As for the oil level, it is supposed to be checked with the engine cold, or at least after letting it sit for several minutes after being run, so the oil can drain back down into the crankcase. The oil level should be even with the top of the sight glass. Oil level is fine. I really like the looks of that bike, but the tube type tires make it practically worthless to me. Now that there are cast wheels available for the Interceptor, I would get a set of those, and have them painted or powder coated gold, so you can run tubeless tires, and not have to deal with being stranded beside the road somewhere and having to call a tow truck. On the Ducati, if you left ethanol fuel in it, the injectors are probably partly plugged up. Run it close to empty, put fresh fuel in it, along with some injector cleaner. Ethanol plays hell with fuel systems, especially if it sits for a while.
If your vehicle is leaking fluid that could get on the surface of the tyres or brakes, for safety reasons it is not advisable to ride it until you have resolved the issue. You should have a pre ride check list such as the acronym the institute of advanced motorists use, POWDERY Check PETROL. (OR DIESEL), OIL, WATER, DAMAGE, ELECTRICS, RUBBER, YOURSELF.
Seems to me like the oil seal in the shock has perished or been pinched on assembly maybe. Its upto you really. Either get a replacement, or get a new pair.
Warranty claims it's a tricky one ,some manufacturers will sort it ,I had a Suzuki in 1976 water-cooled, baffle rattle on one pipe 18 months old suzuki sent a new pipe out ,at that time I'm sure the bike only had a six month warranty from new , My Kawasaki a few years back just out of warranty front discs juddering, 9000,miles, They were very difficult to get any help with the cost or repair, from Kawasaki, Had to send photos making sure the bike was in good condition service history they checked on , Anything to avoid paying ,several emails and phone calls they telling them how disappointed i was with their response and after sales service, eventually they agreed and paid half 🙄, £ 300 +
Oil under a British vehicle, what's the problem? Under a Japanese one, that would be shocking! ^^ Joking aside, riding shocks w/o Oil to dampen the spring on British roads, indicates ur a brave one. The Panigale just calls you slighgly grumpy to ride her empty and get her proper new stuff. :))
Mountain, mole hill. You can clearly see where the oil is coming from. Drama queen . Why do you need 20 motorbike jackets? Defo more money than sense imo
Made in China shocks, you get what you pay for. My self I would put the originals back on the bike I think the gold on them will work really well with your paint. I have been riding bikes for almost 50 years, I'm not Eddie Lawson or Kenny Roberts but the Original Rear shocks were not that bad. You asked.
If the battery on the pinagali has run down or has been turned off it may have interfered with the injection system via the ECU. So speak with your dealers mechanic. If it is the case I think it's a very simple and quick fix. You should even be able to fix the problem yourself if it happens again. And no parts required.🤔🤔🤔
You either have too many bikes or your garage is too small, just joking off course, you can never have too many bikes 🙂. Some times I do use cheaper parts, yet never for items like brakes or shock absorbers. Basically because of bad experiences. Chinese stuff I refuse for political reasons, and I'm very serious about that. I have standardized on Japanese bikes, well except for an old Peugeot scooter. They tend to start even after weeks of not using them and even when they are over 30 years old...
Well it wasn't a general invite to be rude about something I clearly love - would you be that rude to a stranger in the street I wonder? I hope not.....
I have never understood the point of upside down suspension systems. From the Bantam D1 to the fastest new sports bikes it always looks an illogical way of creating a serious weakness. It's like putting the tiles on your roof the wrong way up. Your Enfield shocks demonstrate my point.
Give Hagon shocks a ring if it can’t be fixed they make 1st class shocks handmade for reasonable money , I personally wouldn’t of road it with any type of oil on the rear tyre even cleaned of could be an off waiting to happen , glad you got away with it Andy 👍👍
At last the Enfield has attained true Britishness!, just not British if it’s oil tight, personally I would have run my fingers around the shock and swing arm below it to find out if the shock was leaking .
Bad luck, Andy! I’d put the OE shocks back on, so you can ride the RE at anytime. Then consider upgrading to Hagon shocks. You’ll notice a big leap in quality and ride quality. Good luck!!
In theory you can fix that rear shock, but since you are not realy satisfied with it on the first place, I believe you should just replace them with porper good stuff
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Given the lack of use I think I'd be looking into a warranty claim on a failed shocker
@Kevin Crockett To be honest I don't think I'd even bother, I think I'd be on the phone to Hagon.
Except they are not Royal Enfield shocks, they are aftermarket, so don’t go crying to Royal Enfield
A failed shocker sounds like it could be either disappointing or painful.
@@jessherbst810 I think TMF made it pretty clear they were TEC shocks.... I for one was not suggesting he goes crying to anyone. I was suggesting a solution to his problem.
The lack of use is the reason it happened. The Orings on the shocks are self-lubricating. When you don't use the bike, they can't self-lubricate and fail. Regardless of brand or quality of shock you would still face similar issues on a bike that gets little to no use over extended periods. In saying that, TEC don't have a stellar reputation for quality so early life failure of the seals was probably a little faster than usual.
I’ve been licensed to ride since 1967 (yeah old coot here), so I’ve experienced plenty of common and weird failures on my different rides. Don’t ever remember having a rear oil dampened shock let go though, clearly not the end of the world and an easy fix. As an aside back in the 1969/1972 time one of my rides was a 1965 interceptor. Loved the power and torque and character of the bike, but it was abused when I got it, my father and I got it to a decent point but it was a bit of work to keep it tip top, locktite was a good friend for sure. I got seduced by the easy maintenance of the metric bikes and moved in the direction. Two years ago I bought a 2019 interceptor (slightly used), and have to say that at this point of my riding life that it’s the most enjoyable ride I’ve had in some time. 😎🍺🇨🇦
Same I dont every recall a rear shock leaking.
If one shocker is leaking the other one may start to leak as-well . I would always replace both shockers you can get a imbalance between the two which will cause serious handling problems. It’s false economy if it causes you a Accident
I think I'm on my own here looking at the comments, but for me any bike with an oil leak near a tyre isn't leaving the garage till it's fixed! Enjoyable video as always thanks
@@crispindry2815 ...I left that in because I thought it was quite funny - I actually thought the Enfield had a dipstick that's why I looked in there first expecting to extract a dipstick (as I own several bikes I can never remember which ones have dipsticks and which have inspection windows!). I got there in the end, I was the dispstick! Thanks for watching....
It's Indian. We ride it in flip flops and a lungi with no maintenance. Don't be such a woosee 😂
A trick i use to identify tricky leaks on newer bikes ( as fluids are generally new & similar colour, oil, shock oil, brake fluid) is to tape some kitchen roll around the bottom of each suspect item ( shock, shock resevoir, brake cylinder, brake resevoir etc) and leave. The leak becomes evident as it shows up soaking 1 piece of kitchen roll pee yellow! 🙂
Nice idea.
Nice one. Thanks.
I do something similar, but quicker.
Just wiping round every suspect component with a bit of bog roll or kitchen roll.
Any leak will soon be evident if you check the material after each wipe.
Hagons are good, I've had them on 3 bikes over the years and they will build them to suit your specific weight and riding style etc so they can be tuned to your requirements. I have also heard good things about YSS shocks too but haven't tried them. If the TEC shocks are under warranty they may be able to replace or repair them and given you have a a successful bike channel, they might be worth a call in the first instance. Great upload as always 👍
Cheers Michael....
@@TheMissendenFlyer you're welcome Andy, all the best with whatever you do with them 👍
Just looked up the YSS ones - I can get a pair for less than £400 so may go that route....
@@TheMissendenFlyer a friend of mine in the bike trade swears by their monoshocks as a great option for the price. I'm going to seriously consider them next time I need a monoshock. I'm also seriously thinking of getting an interceptor and YSS are high on the consideration list if I get one. I'm not sure but I think they will build to suit specifics too, which would be useful as I am north of 20 stone! If not it will be Hagons.
Love Hagons . They make them to suit your weight.
They make them in Essex.
Would make a good episode.
Critical of chinese products.
You had a little go at me afew years ago about that .
You knowingly took a vehicle on the road with a dangerous fault on the suspension system which is an MOT fail and you think it's OK to do that?
Clearly I did - sorry if it upset you.
@@TheMissendenFlyer you didn't upset me but you make it appear to be fine to take an unsafe vehicle on the road.
Apologies.
I’d be heading straight back to Tec. You do so few miles, it’s a manufacturing defect for sure (unless the builder buggered it up) and I’d have thought they would want to avoid bad press…
@Andy Nichols It's a bit late for 'avoiding bad press' IMO 🙂 It's 'weed' oil everywhere while it's been stood on the sidestand.
It's not an OEM shock, but after market that failed, per his explanation! So not a RE issue, but the after market shock manufacturer....
I've just ordered myself some Hagon's!! 2 weeks to make up and they're set up for my weight. Looking forward to trying them!
@@TheMissendenFlyer You could jump on the gs and ride down to pick them up. That would make some good content if you can get a look around hagon
Built to your weight, what a great marketing ploy. 97% will have the same spring.
I think I'd just stick the OG shocks on it for now. It'll just mean that the bike is available if you fancy a spin on it (before deciding if you'll get new shocks or if you've to wait for delivery).
Shocks: You've not had them long have you? I'd swap both shocks for the originals, and send them back to TEC for replacement. Simples!
Hi Missenden Flyer as you have bikes that are laid up often, even if just for a few weeks, use super unleaded fuel. I say this for the simple reason that Super Unleaded contains 5% ethanol at the most but is likely to contain none. This means less chance of water contamination or fuel separation associated with higher ethanol content. Keep up the brilliant content btw :)
Apparently ESSO super unleaded doesn't contain any ethanol or so I'm told, I always use super unleaded fuel in both my bikes
Ethanol is hydroscopic... it attracts water.
Not sure if you do this but when storing bikes for a long time make sure you put in fuel that has no ethanol in it and fill the tank to the brim (no space for water vapour to collect and condense). I usually add a fuel stabilizer also but I'm in Canada and we have at least 4 months when riding a motorcycle could be considered extremely risky.
Just use E5, especially if you don’t ride for a few weeks
@@WhyteZone I suspect all the bikes use F.I in place of carbs
@@davidsandilands1285 E5 is better than E10 for sure and for just a few weeks is probably okay but I'm in Canada where our bikes are off the road for pretty well 4 months so fuel with no ethanol is way better - it can be hard to find but there are some no ethanol fuels out there (Shell V-Power - super unleaded - being one of them . . . at least in Canada).
We've got E10 now mainly in the UK ! So it's fuel stabiliser time. Can get E5 from some places.
@@karlosh9286 If you can be bothered, there are kits that enable you to take almost all the ethanol out of these stupid modern fuels. Perhaps too much hassle for most but for those with older machines, or those who don't do many miles, it might be worth looking into.
And the shock is made in..? I have never, in my 40 years of riding, heard of an oil leaking shockabsorber. Not in those quantities. Put the OEM ones on again. Probably for the best.
Enjoy the spring! Thank you mr Flyer!
Youre very lucky having all those bikes. I love that goldwing which is a lot coming from a guy that now only rides an MT-10. Great video BTW.
If it's an issue with a TEC-shock, contact the blokes and they will fix it within 2 days. Best customer service ever.
Hopefully you cleaned excess oil off rear tyre on your pre flight check,definitely don’t use until rear shocks (both) are changed as no more oil should appear as the contents have already been dumped out.
Stay safe Andy.
Hi TMF, for the RE I’d go back to the OEM shocks for now. I had a shock leak on a bike before and you’ll find it will start to pogo and get worse. as other have said try a warranty route. For the duke hunting issue, could be fuel, air, or sensor, probably someone on the pani forums will have experienced similar issue. Good luck with resolving both….
If you want a similar look but something decent. YSS all the way. I had Tec on a thruxton a while ago and ended up changing them out. Had one total failure (snapped)… next set had oil loss like yours and got right out of sorts on a back road 2 up.
Yes I like the look of the YSS ones I must say - good price too....
Wouldn’t recommend checking the oil level when the bike is hot….it needs time to return to the sump and should be checked cold 👍
I’m no mechanic but I’m not sure what oil you expected to see looking in to the top of an engine case.
Other than dry sump engines, I believe most engines can be inspected for oil level when cold.
Indeed - my bad….
Andy, I would give Tec Bike Parts a miss and go straight to Hagon. After fitting them to my 865 T100 the handling and ride have improved no end.
I will do just that…
I’m surprised people are so quick to dismiss the RE. You’ve spent a great deal of effort (and heartache) getting her sorted. In the grand scheme of thing swap out the shocks, job done!
Yes that is likely what I'll do....
Getting it "sorted"? Ruined imo 😆
What had to be sorted out?
silk purse/sows ear = RE. best cut your losses
@@chewitt6426 He put aftermarket shocks on the motorcycle.
TEC Bike Parts’ shocks have a very poor reputation. I’ve read/heard many horror stories. If I were you, I’d go for some Hagon’s, YSS, or better yet, Öhlins😊
Yes I think they were Tec (I'm not 100% sure but suspect that is the case) - Maybe hagon is the way to go, would likely improve the handling too.....
Andy .... A late response here swap out the original oem shocks to prevent the Enfield becoming even more of a money pit ! The obvious issue is a failed shock seal thats possibly presented itself sooner than later given they are inverted and pressurised keep up the great work with the channel Kind Regards CC
They are just trying to give you the authentic experience of owning a British bike from the 60's. It just wouldn't be realistic if it didn't leak all over your garage floor 🙂
So, a PPL holder goes out to his little plane and shock horror, notices a pool of liquid underneath its wheels.
"I know", he says, "I'll just give it a little fly around and see if I can work out what's wrong" good grief.
Thanks for that - see point 9 of my small print.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer regardless of your "small print", riding a bike with a known fault on the roads is stupid. God forbid you lost control and killed someones child walking along the path. You're an "influencer" (you shil loads of crp) so perhaps should at least pretend to be responsible and not hide behind the small print like a petulant child. You should read the thread on well known adv forum regards this video.
Great analogy, are you the person who helped saffy s with a problem? Forensic Engineer?
Be careful @DavidTowler you're in danger of falling foul of point 3 in the small print! :0)
Oil in shocks is for damping and doesn’t affect the spring rate. It will effect the ‘bouncy-nes’ of the rear. I had a seal go on an Ohlins shock once, just a fault on a seal which is always made more likely with under use. Try spraying a small amount of silicon on the shiney slider parts of your shocks and forks to avoid stiction when not using them regularly.
All motorcycles like to be ridden regularly. I feel for the 899, the fuelling is telling you this. A tank of E5 and 100 miles of spirited riding will probably sort it out......
That bike has been a very expensive headache from the minute you decided to customise it 😉
All part of the fun of owning bikes!
Ducati probably doesn’t like the older fuel and the Enfield could do with a set of hagons 😁 but I’m no expert 😜
I've just ordered myself some Hagon shocks for the bike....
I'd get a set of YSS shocks. They are available in different colours aswell, to satisfy the decorum 😅 On decent suspension it shouldn't be crashy anyway..
Contact the shock supplier. If they gave you a goodwill replacement it would be good publicity compared to what the situation is now.
I'm not sure I want that type again, they weren't any better than the stock ones other than they were in black (and only lasted for a few hundred miles)! Good excuse for an upgrade.....
Put some decent shocks on it. Not TEC!
Yes I think you may be right......
Been riding 51 years and never ever experienced a shock failing through lack of use , I've just recommissioned a 2000 SV650 that had been stood for three years and the shock is fine .
Considering the oil is all over the rear wheel first thing I'd have looked at is the shock as it looked too thick to be brake fluid, and as you said Andy you could see the reservoir showed no loss , as for checking engine oil level looking through the sight glass is the obvious place , you can't see the oil level looking through the filler hole generally all you'll see is the clutch basket blocking your view .
As has been stated it's not an Enfield failing it's the poor quality shock manufacturing.
Happy to say I've had my Interceptor three years now and no issues at all , it isn't my main bike but it's done 9,000 miles and going fine.
Ever thought of attending a mechanics course seeing as you say you're not very good at sussing technical stuff and you own a good collection of bikes? Just a thought ? 😉
I'd rather leave it to the experts and just enjoy riding....
RE is a UK thing? See them parked at the BMW/Triumph/Ducati dealerships here in the states but NEVER on the road.
Love to have that selection of bikes in the garage, just the one at present, has been ridden over the winter, the lawnmower had its first outing since October, it started on first pull 😅
You can replace the seals on the suspension, great if you can do it yourself, if you need a mechanic though, probably less labour to get a new one.
Five weeks isn't gonna.. but good excuse to ride each one 😏.
Hi Andy.
The idle issue on the Ducati seems quite similar to one I had on the Thunderbird.
It turned out to be a throttle sensor that needed replacing.
It kept fluctuating and couldn't remain consistent.
They replaced it and it's been great since.
Hope you get it sorted.
G.
That Ducati most likely wants some fresh petrol and a damn good thrashing.
A friend of mine worked at a bike dealer that had a rolling road. They had a guy come in with a Hyabusa complaining that it ran rough. It checked out fine. The owner was asked if he used the performance…..”Oh yes, 80mph!”
They told the owner to nip down the road and get a pub lunch while they had another look. They put it on the rolling road and firewalled it. Apparently it popped and banged and threw out loads of smoke until it finally cleared and then ran like a dream. When the owner came back he was absolutely thrilled. Asked what they’d done to fix it…..”fine adjustments”.
Cool!
A new Pair of Hagon shocks will sort it out .
Yep, even more so as they are made in England.
Yes I must admit fitting something half decent is quite appealing as the handlig on the bike is a bit pants.....
Another vote for Hagon, love mine 😊
Had a pair on my Commando for near enough 30 years… I might change them at some point 😂
I concur! I had Hagon shocks on my old Bonnie transformed the handling had Tec parts didn't impress me much.
Get them cheap Tec parts of, Mat from the dirty garage guy took 1 apart and it's shocking how badly they are put together.
I mean it's not like your risking your life with them or anything.
If it gave out just sitting there it'll probably give out when riding.
I've actually now ordered some hagon shocks for the bike - looking forward to getting them fitted and seeing how the handling is improved....
I just took my Honda CBF600s (2006) out after 6 months, and it lives in a cold shed with just a battery tender, and it was spot on, you cannot beat quality....
Get some decent shocks on that bike, it deserves better.
Go Nitron R1s, you won't regret it. I have them on my interceptor and they are the best shocks I have ever riden on. 👍😎
Here's a sure way to alleviate the problem with little to no effort. Leave the bike out front overnight with the keys in the ignition. Problem solved. :)
An interesting solution!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Took me well over a minute to conjure up that plan. Nothing but quality!
Might take a couple of days :)
Tech bike parts aren't exactly renowned for quality. Buy cheap, buy twice.
Yes - I would never have spec'd them and sadly they weren't that cheap but that's another story!
Hopefully you can get the RE sorted out fairly easily. You might find the shocks are still under warranty
I doubt it - they are over a year old....
I thought enfield had a three year warranty. If not Sale of goods Act should do it.Richard Cottingham
They are not RE but 3rd party (TEC)
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have the same ones and now I'm worried...
As many commentators here have already suggested that you swap out the shocks, I can only add to that.
The seal in the nitrogen reservoir has given up the ghost, and let the oil out.
I have re-built many shocks myself, but I have a fully equipped workshop and know my way around hydraulics.
Not somethig a non-technical person should attempt, as there can be very high gas pressure in the reservoir, beware!!!
I have no idea what a qualified technitian would charge you to re-build those shocks (do both at the same time), or what the replacement cost will be.
Might not even be worth the effort to fix them.
If you were close to me, you could just pop them off and come over for a brew, and I could fix them in no time. But, Sweden is a bit far away from Missenden...
What a bummer!! Time for an upgrade me thinks….
Should be easy enough to source a quality replacement pair of shocks. Think oil on the rear tyre would make me nervous in the first corners. I'm guessing you had a good clean-up.
OFC....
I thought that the 899 being ridden was nothing more than an urban legend.
My father used to tell me bedtime stories about it when I was a small boy.
It’s as close to a myth as reality can be!
Really enjoyed this and glad none of the other bikes had an issue. Get a new shock and then put more miles on the Enfield! Out for the first time yesterday on the Scrambler 1200 xe after a few winter mods and delighted it didn't miss a beat. Love this sunny slightly warmer weather!
Ah Andy the yellow finger pointer, it was like a monty python sketch..
Yes I must get that out again soon!
I think I would probably go for YSS Shocks rather then Tec if your going to replace them completely! Good video.
I've just ordered myself some Hagon's!
@TheMissendenFlyer I think you will find the Hagon shocks to be far superior in every way. I have them on my T100 Bonneville and my son has them on his Enfield Interceptor. Ride quality is superb, especially when teamed up with Hagon fork springs.
TEC shocks are cheapos get Yss or Hagon but Yss give you more control.
Have to say I was not surprised when you said tec. Personally finished with them. Good luck.
Your ducati sounds like it's got dirty fuel or something gunged up. Had the same with my old ZXR9 had to clean the carbs & coils. What i'd do is just give everything a clean carb or fuel injectors give those a good clean.Then also give your sparks a clean while you're there might aswell. In my case that fixed the rough idling issues. Just the fuel wasn't burning as it should or wasn't able to get into a fine mist.
I would definitely get it looked at asap TMF as I would personally be very concerned it would leak oil on to the tyre when you're riding it & before you know it you're off. Or it just lets go in a big way with the same result . Looks like it's time for a new shock! I've seen Hagon mentioned a few times & I agree, good choice & value.
Yes hagon or YSS seem the favourites....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think YSS are Thai & Hagon British....I could be wrong but either way, both are decent good value alternatives.
Hagon wins then!
No question.... get some Hagons.
Very interesting, if you could only own one motorcycle, it would be the BMW GS. Thanks
Like the yellow hand on a stick…..could annoy the wife with that….must get one 😂
Liking your thinking!
Hooray! The pointy stick is out again.
Did you miss it?
Your pointy stick cracks me and my fiancee up 😂
I aim to please!
Greetings from Poolewe, Scotland on the NC500 on a Ninja 400. Done 1000 miles from Brighton.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have some YSS shocks on my Interceptor, front and back, both adjustable. They make a world of difference on the handling. Check them out I would say. Uncle Stew has some nice vid's on them. Btw, rear shocks are really easy to swap yourself. Front is more difficult.
Yes I reckon even I can replace rear shocks!
When take of shocks be better have person to help as bit weight on seat might help get new shock to right postion to fit back on and removal on centre stand unloaded id thought
It looks like there’s way too much oil on the floor to be just one shock leaking
A pool of oil underneath a Royal Enfield! That's a genuine retro experience.
If you hang the Panigale off your living room wall as it is exquisite art you could fit another bike in the garage...win win
Now that isn't a bad idea!!
The garage videos are my favourite 👍🏻
...well it's not really a garage video....but glad to hear that anyway...
If the shock has gone after such little mileage, I wouldn’t be buying the same one again. Good excuse for an upgrade I’d say 👍🏻
Agreed 100%
I wouldn't ride that - oil on brakes/tyres is not good....
Indeed - I did clean the bike up before I went out and I just rode it slowly around the block....I was very aware of the potential for more oil to leak out! A case of don't do what I do......
How very authentic for a retro bike to have an oil leak, and don’t forget back in the day REs were often called Real Oilfields with good reason, so its all perfectly in character. Its just marking its territory!
It didn’t feel too bad because even if it is supposedly an aftermarket “upgrade” its fairly basic suspension on a fairly basic bike. Its not exactly cutting edge race spec like your Panigale or hi-tech sophisticated electronic touring kit like the Wing!
Tec bike parts are shite. Poor quality, go for a better shock.
I will!
Absolutely nothing wrong with the stock suspension on my Kawasaki W800, perfectly suited to the ride and style of the bike, but you pays your money and takes your choice.
BUT That engine shakes harder than any other in the class!
@@ricatiman what the W800? Have you ridden one? The newer version from 2020 onwards? Its really not as bad as reported in the media. Besides the 360° firing order is the most true to classic 70’s British bikes as you can get. So expect some character and connection with the bike and the sound you get isn’t the same as bikes like the RE or Triumph with their 270° twins.
TEC - just throw them away and move on. Absolute waste of money. And yes, I've tried them. Terrible things. Hagon are a much better option although even RE stock parts would eclipse TEC for quality. If you have them put them back on for now.
Keep being yourself TMF, it’s what makes your channel so great 😉👍
Thank you, I will! Appreciate the kind words…
Hint: Mop up oil spills using kitty litter. Sucks it up.
There's a thousand kinds now, use the basic all clay kind .
I'd have left the RE as it was in the Baker Express trim, I thought it looked great with the initial subtle mods. The GS and Goldwing are superb.
I always bought it to get customised, so I did! Of course you're free to do what you like with yours too Colin!
Thanks Andy interesting and entertaining as always. Seriously I wouldn’t want your annual bill for running your fleet …..😊 regarding your Ducati I suspect some fresh fuel and a spirited run out will likely resolve. 👍
Your Panigale really is a work of art.
It sure is!
Is that garage an endless pit of vehicles?
Tec shocks are on the cheaper side of things at under £200 and considering the saga of this bike you have most probably paid ohlins money for them. Personally I would do a bit of research there are plenty of shocks on the market, Hagon will build you a set for about £500 . You could also see if tec would help you out as this could have just been a duff oil seal.
I heard before you parked that RE up,you were doing 'Great Escape' jumps🤣🤣🤣
I wish!
Flipping Henry built like a gun...bice bike ..got a good collection of dope looking oil shocks from China in the shed ...doingnothing....nitroge is the go ..
Hah. I rode a kh100 for a year with leaky front forks
They were pitted to hell and couldn't get/afford replacements. It made braking interesting.
YSS shocks recommended. Z series are very good.
Sounds like a seals gone or got crud in it which is allowing oil to pass I'd get the bike to a trusted mechanic or back to Royal Enfield. Also, the engine oil sight glass was full instead of between the two lines, from the image, looked like there's too much oil in the engine.
Assuming it is just the shock, you don't have to worry about any causing any damage. If you are going to ride it like that, be aware that the handling might be affected slightly, but it won't be anything major. I would replace both rear shocks with gold colored non reservoir shocks. Those reservoir shocks look like they belong on a dirt bike.
As for the oil level, it is supposed to be checked with the engine cold, or at least after letting it sit for several minutes after being run, so the oil can drain back down into the crankcase. The oil level should be even with the top of the sight glass. Oil level is fine.
I really like the looks of that bike, but the tube type tires make it practically worthless to me. Now that there are cast wheels available for the Interceptor, I would get a set of those, and have them painted or powder coated gold, so you can run tubeless tires, and not have to deal with being stranded beside the road somewhere and having to call a tow truck.
On the Ducati, if you left ethanol fuel in it, the injectors are probably partly plugged up. Run it close to empty, put fresh fuel in it, along with some injector cleaner. Ethanol plays hell with fuel systems, especially if it sits for a while.
If your vehicle is leaking fluid that could get on the surface of the tyres or brakes, for safety reasons it is not advisable to ride it until you have resolved the issue. You should have a pre ride check list such as the acronym the institute of advanced motorists use, POWDERY Check PETROL. (OR DIESEL), OIL, WATER, DAMAGE, ELECTRICS, RUBBER, YOURSELF.
Seems to me like the oil seal in the shock has perished or been pinched on assembly maybe. Its upto you really. Either get a replacement, or get a new pair.
Yes I may use it as an opportunity to upgrade.....
Warranty claims it's a tricky one ,some manufacturers will sort it ,I had a Suzuki in 1976 water-cooled, baffle rattle on one pipe 18 months old suzuki sent a new pipe out ,at that time I'm sure the bike only had a six month warranty from new ,
My Kawasaki a few years back just out of warranty front discs juddering,
9000,miles,
They were very difficult to get any help with the cost or repair, from Kawasaki,
Had to send photos making sure the bike was in good condition service history they checked on ,
Anything to avoid paying ,several emails and phone calls they telling them how disappointed i was with their response and after sales service, eventually they agreed and paid half 🙄, £ 300 +
Oil under a British vehicle, what's the problem? Under a Japanese one, that would be shocking! ^^
Joking aside, riding shocks w/o Oil to dampen the spring on British roads, indicates ur a brave one.
The Panigale just calls you slighgly grumpy to ride her empty and get her proper new stuff. :))
Mountain, mole hill. You can clearly see where the oil is coming from. Drama queen .
Why do you need 20 motorbike jackets? Defo more money than sense imo
Thanks for that - gotta love the internet!
@@TheMissendenFlyer You've gotta love drama queen's!
@@Fake-moon-landing. I refer you to my previous answer - all the best and thanks for watching!
@@TheMissendenFlyer ditto
Made in China shocks, you get what you pay for. My self I would put the originals back on the bike I think the gold on them will work really well with your paint. I have been riding bikes for almost 50 years, I'm not Eddie Lawson or Kenny Roberts but the Original Rear shocks were not that bad. You asked.
Get some better quality shocks and just bolt them on . The fact thats failed is shocking 😅 no pun intended but they should last longer than that.
If the battery on the pinagali has run down or has been turned off it may have interfered with the injection system via the ECU. So speak with your dealers mechanic. If it is the case I think it's a very simple and quick fix. You should even be able to fix the problem yourself if it happens again. And no parts required.🤔🤔🤔
You either have too many bikes or your garage is too small, just joking off course, you can never have too many bikes 🙂. Some times I do use cheaper parts, yet never for items like brakes or shock absorbers. Basically because of bad experiences. Chinese stuff I refuse for political reasons, and I'm very serious about that. I have standardized on Japanese bikes, well except for an old Peugeot scooter. They tend to start even after weeks of not using them and even when they are over 30 years old...
Just put the OEM shocks back on - nothing will make that bike less attractive.
You cheeky devil! See point 9 of the small print at the start of the video.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Sorry mate - when you asked for advice I didn't realise you meant adulatory feedback only..
Well it wasn't a general invite to be rude about something I clearly love - would you be that rude to a stranger in the street I wonder? I hope not.....
is the Enfield based on the early 70's BSA? Back in those days, the Norton Commando regularly beat my Kawasaki H2.. not even that close.
Unfair, but the RE vs Suzuki demonstrating one of the reasons British bikes all but disappeared 50 years ago and Japanese bikes took over the world
I have never understood the point of upside down suspension systems. From the Bantam D1 to the fastest new sports bikes it always looks an illogical way of creating a serious weakness. It's like putting the tiles on your roof the wrong way up. Your Enfield shocks demonstrate my point.
Give Hagon shocks a ring if it can’t be fixed they make 1st class shocks handmade for reasonable money , I personally wouldn’t of road it with any type of oil on the rear tyre even cleaned of could be an off waiting to happen , glad you got away with it Andy 👍👍
Set the enfield on fire, claim the insurance
Cheeky devil....
At last the Enfield has attained true Britishness!, just not British if it’s oil tight, personally I would have run my fingers around the shock and swing arm below it to find out if the shock was leaking .
I’d be giving Tech Bike Parts first, before doing anything… They’re really good as far as customer services are concerned 👍🏻
Yes they are nice fellas for sure but I fancy an upgrade from cheapo shocks....and this is a good excuse.
Bad luck, Andy!
I’d put the OE shocks back on, so you can ride the RE at anytime. Then consider upgrading to Hagon shocks. You’ll notice a big leap in quality and ride quality.
Good luck!!
I've just ordered myself some Hagon shocks for the bike....
I had a shock fail and leak on my Africa Twin Adventure Sport, luckily it was a warranty issue, so went back to be replaced.
In theory you can fix that rear shock, but since you are not realy satisfied with it on the first place, I believe you should just replace them with porper good stuff
Yes I think I will do just that - Hagon seem the recomendation of choice so far....
For best performance from your fuel, use tesco momentum 99, which is also E5. (5% ethanol). It’s ethanol which causes fuelling issues when vehicles are left for longer periods, so less ethanol the better. Tesco’s 99 fuel is also proven to be a very stable fuel for ecu maps to deal with, so best performance is assured. And no-one should use fuel stabiliser additives, they cause more problems that solve.