A Great Way To KILL All Of Your Fish! You Oughta Know About Adding Too Many Fish At Once
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From reading the comments I'm pretty sure aquariums are an addiction, and I too need help 😂
I'm on 2 a day now! But I need more man!
God yes.. 15 months ago I had a 40L tank wirh 6 community fish... As of today, I have a 160L community tank, a new 80L community tank, and a 150L cichlid tank... Oh, and a 9L wirh 6 goldfish fry in it. 😂. And I still want more!!! Love glow light tetras now 🤔
@@anovemberstar that sounds like an amazing setup. I'm really dying to get a saltwater aquarium, angelfish and discus and I even want to get a flowerhorn one day. Just so many things that you can buy.
@@jessegamingtv2146 I was doing fine wirh the 160L and 150L... But obsessed for 3 days straight and ended up wirh the 80L. Problem is, I do want to get rid of the 160L, and am in the process of selling some of the fish in it, but I can't bare to part with my golden Bristlenose and 3 x emerald corys,... So I think I'll need to downsize that tank, so I'll still have 3... Its both super fun, but frustrating too 😂
so far just waiting for the fish to die naturally before you do a comeplete makeover and only 2 tanks per house has been doing fine.
The title feels like something off Wikihow. "How to kill your fish in 5 steps!"
So true!! Self control in the pet store is a big deal!! Great vide!!
I have to slap my wrist sometimes when I go to the lfs hahaha
THIS is why it's a Great Idea to dose with *SEACHEM Stability* for a few Days after Increasing Stock.
Adding the new fish without quarantine is much worse.
Water quality can be controlled with a well sized filter, more water changes and less feeding. An outbreak of a disease is much harder to control.
I just set up a hospital/quarantine tank after losing a bunch of my fish to ich last week
@@jeremyjjet4909 Yup, that is usually when you do it.
Ight I'm not adding any new fish to my tank until the die. See you in at least a year or 2.
@@FezCaliph you only need to test for like 2 weeks
Lol the aquarium hobby is definitely my hobby can relate to lots of stuff in your videos and it's just funny because I'm sure most people go threw these stages in the aquarium hobby lol
Very true with the impulse lol it's like an addiction haha
Very true its hard not to buy more fish when at the store ive had this issue myself a while back everything was going fantastic it was my guppy tank and i was too impatient getting them in the new tank, it was still cycling but nearly at the end of it and everything was fine when i added them but they started breeding like crazy and the filter couldn't handle the bio load. Even tho we learn from our mistakes we still tend to continue to make them just gotta urge yourself not to and do this carefully and strategically.
I remember having an aquarium when I was growing up as a kid. I remember feeding them, taking care of maintenance items, maintained the canister filter, etc. As a kid, my dad even bought me exotic fish, like a Pangasius Shark, Silver Arowana, and an Albino Pleco. All of which grew very large and lived a very long time. Fast forward to couple months ago. Setting up a new aquarium and went straight to the pet store to get some fish. Too much fish. Guy there said, "here, put this water conditioner in your water before you put the fish in the tank." He gave me the bottle of water conditioner along with all the fish I chose out. Went home, added the conditioner, equalized the temperature in the fish bag and then let them loose. They was so happy and eating and. . .in 2 hours all dead. WTF. I don't recall keeping fish this difficult. Maybe in Hawaii the tap water quality is much better. I didn't even measure water parameters when I was a kid. Today, now my tanks are finally cycled, I'm just treating my (new) fish to the red gill syndrome, of which they're healing up very well (as for the first batch of fish, I'm so sorry you came home with me. The pet store gave me a full refund when I brought back the dead fish and my receipts). Going through the process, I've learened so much about the cycle, nitrites, ammonia and nitrates. I think I've learned way too much about ammonia than I would like. Hard lessons, but now I'm enjoying the hobby.
Jeffrey LaPuente no one asked
Thanks, going through a pretty bad fish problem rn
@@onebadegg9710 come on man…
There are greenish white gravel rocks that remove the ammonia from your tank and I use them in my turtle tank. I put in 6 Danis today, will see how it goes.
Learned that lesson the hard way when I added 8 new fish to my tank.
I'm crying over some black neon tetras right now thinking I had a wee bit of leeway to move those guppies out. It was too much. :'(
I really appreciate how you put everything you say in the video in the description, I don't have audio at work and captions can be a little wonky at times lol.
The way you explain how we as fish keepers feel is so realistic.😀
I hate mollies .... I started with 4, they bred and bred, and bred, and bred LOL now im overstocked! LOL
I love Molly's I hate guppies I got 2 now 1,000 of them I give them away for free I have 8 tanks
I wish I found this when I first start keeping fish
Added a dozen Neon Tetras to my my 29-gal, which already held three Tetras and two Parrot Cichlids. Apparently the bacteria colony was well-established--I believe in heavy filtration... from experience--because they acclimated easily and I didn't lose any. That is, except for the other dozen lost in quarantine, because I didn't give the tank enough time to cycle and establish itself.
This is solid gold advice,we've all been drawn into a similar mistake and if a novice watches this and acts on it,they are going to miss out on a big chunk of misery,there's nothing going to rain on your parade much more than an ammonia spike.
much as i agree and yes ive been caught by it and now im much more careful of adding too many fish (in fact my 300l tank only has 2 oscars and a bristlenose) but sometimes its best (definitely not for the fish mind) to learn by making mistakes
@@gazeddy Surely a 300l tank can take more fish than that? Or is it a new setup?
@@rebeccaedwards3784 the oscars were around 8 inches at the time.
@@rebeccaedwards3784 300l is somewhere around 95 gallons
Alternatively if you do have to put a good number of fish at once, simply keep feeding the same amount, or a bit less, and gradually increase the feeding over a couple of weeks.
I usaly don't feed them till 5.00 the next day
I stocked my tank with about 65 to 70 small fish, Hengli Rasboras, Rummy Nose Tetras, Cardinal Tetras, Hillstream Loaches and some shrimp. I did this over a period of about three to four months, I added the fish 15 to 20 at a time give or take. I understand how the nitrogen cycle works and knew the bacteria in my system would not be strong enough and would struggle to coupe with new arrivals. So to deal with this when I added the new fish I also added extra bacteria (Fritz Enzyme 7) to help boost bacteria levels up until it balances itself out (I use 1 large bottle of bacteria). This practice has worked well for me, I lost no fish or plants. Tank is a 90 gallon with about 25 to 30 gallon water volume in sump and it's a planted tank. Plants help a lot too, plants and fish all doing well. It's all about maintaining that balance, you need to understand and stay ahead of your system to achieve that. My advice is get a good understanding of what the nitrogen cycle is and how it works. Cheers all and happy fish keeping!
And knowing is half the battle
@@zerohero6602
That's for sure!
*sigh* back in the early 90s, I “accidentally” fell into fishkeeping when I rescued a salamander I found frozen into a bucket of water. I borrowed a tank to make a wet terrarium, it was decided that some guppies might be nice, and before too long I hand a nice little diverse community. Kinda an au natural setup that was almost self sustaining (at least, someone was always busy pulling bloodworms out of the gravel). Until on a whim “Hey! That wee crayfish looks AWESOME!”… within hours, all my plants had been shredded to mulch, and I mean *all* of them… all the shrimp were gone, the snails dug out of their shells, and I got home to find it ripping the top shell off the mini fiddler crab like the top off a pizza box… *sigh*. The fish proper were fast enough to avoid my disastrous lack of judgement, and when I coaxed the salamander out of his cave, I discovered he was missing part of his tail, poor thing. Off to a new home with that ravenous beast immediately.
anyone else watching this after just putting 10 more fish in their tank💀
I just love your videos. I started watching them as I was getting back into the hobby and then you disappeared. I'm so excited you guys are back. I'm learning so much!
Like the video. Do you have suggested guidelines as to determine how many fish to add at a time? What factors influence a system's ability to adapt, size of filter, media type, size of tank, etc. Do you recommend any additives to aid this, I.e. Stability? Maybe this would be a good follow up for this video. Thank you!
Heres what I do if I am going to add a large amount of fish to my tank.
1. I do a water change 2 or 3 days before I buy
2. I add extra bacteria
3. I make sure I do not over feed
This has always worked for me and I have added up to 10 fish with no losses
Back in November I decided I wanted a tank again since I was retired and needed something relaxing. I researched for weeks and my daughter bought me two books for Christmas. I watched video after video after video from you, Pecktec, AQ co-op, and many others.
I took this slow as money permitted too. Got a deal on a 29G with stand and some accessories. I then ordered 3 bags of Eco-Complete, put it in with the decorations and let it sit for a month till payday. Came back and added here: I just remembered I had put some Flourish tabs underneath. Ordered a Tidal 55 along with a ceramic heater. Added charcoal and let that run for another month.
I bought a package deal on plants from whom shall remain nameless and they all died except for one Amazon sword.
Everyone kept saying “When you gonna get some fish?” and I told them it had to get established first.
The plants started dying. Had the water tested. All good but just had to adjust the Ph. Bought two guppies to start to see how they would do.
All was good after a few days and slowly started adding fish a week at a time. Now I’m at 20 fish and holding till I can make a trip to the big city.
April 16th and all is lovely. Crystal Clear.
DAM8658 I absolutely hate that “when are you going to put fish in???” That I get from my parents. Even after explaining dozens of times. One day I finally broke down and bought 12 neon tetras and they all died :((( and even after seeing that happen they’re still asking why I’m waiting so long smh
Ellen Brady 😪
Newly bought plants "dying" is normal. They were often grown emersed (not under water) and will get rid of all the emersed grown leaves once they are submerged (under water). This process is also known as melting. If you still have the roots of the plants, leave them in your aquarium and they will most likely grow again.
Katja Frank The entire plants died.
I just love you and all the good advice, you taught me so much. My fish are happy and so am I Thank you.
My local fish store has a 'TIP Tank' right smack dab in the middle of their display.
Took me a few hundred visits to figure out it's true meaning.. The Impulse Prevention Tank. There's never any money in it, but it's a cleaver way to get one to open their eyes before spending/buying that new fish, just cuz.
I add lots sometimes but not had problems because I use prime and stability regularly for a few weeks
Lol thank you for this video. Been having countless fish impulse buys. Sometimes just feel boxed in by varieties already owned.
Tell me about it, the three petsmart guppies I bought were pregnant and exploded and I put them in my outdoor pond in spring in desperation, and the local raccoons hadn't harvested enough before winter, and my dumb self tried to save them all, to the detriment of the few fish I have that I actually *chose*. Boxed in is a good way to think of it.
I've done this so many times but I never lost any fish from doing it. I instead realized my tank was overcrowded and had to re-home fish. Now I no longer look at fish when I go to the store. I grab what I need and leave, my tank is fully stocked and i have learned from my mistakes. I don't like a crowded tank I prefer a simple look. Less is more 😉
feeding the same amount of food and then gradually going up helps. Great video John!
this isn't happening to me, but what if someone, for whatever reason, must buy a dozen or two dozen fish at once from a store - how do you combat this issue when you put them in a quarantine tank at home? just have a large enough tank with enough water and do frequent water changes and tests?
I've always been taught, fishless cycle to 4ppm ammonia, let the tank fully cycle then get the majority of your stock in quick. It has served me well over the years and I've never had a mini cycle.
If you get the majority of your stock in at the start, you are also only likely to add 1s and 2s further down the line.
And here I thought you were going to talk about not quarantining the fish first. My Mom is always feeding too much and I have to vacuum out all the left overs at least weekly sometimes more.
I saw a green spotted puffer and I just couldn't leave without one... 😂
Great video, I think we’ve all been there. I certainly have in the pass. Can even be difficult to resist when you know better.
Loved it. Sooooo true. Controlling that urge is so hard. I love that you acknowledge it and so clearly describe the consequences, great videos. I often watch.
I swear you described everything right down to the smallest detail of what i thought
add a prefilter sponge and buy a bottle of bacteria. no problemo.
I added 12 cardinal tetra to my established aquarium. I tested the water the next day, and every other day for a week. Nothing changed. It was like i never added a fish. I still test 2 times a week just for my sanity. Having an established planted tank really helped me with this impluse buy. You cant pass up 12 Cardinal tetra for $6.
Thats what mostly happen to the begginers of the hobby.
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Rapidly reducing biolad can cascade into serious nitrogen cycle problems too.
What is worse is when pet stores encourage selling 5+ fish at a time to boost sales... then when all the fish die people still come back to buy more to replace the fish that died.
Hi, I am new to the fish owner life and i would like some help. I love this youtube channel and find it very helpfuI. I have a 20 Gal tank and I want to know how many fish can i put in. I want to put in Tetras, Glass Catfish, Guppies, Plecos and i want a Betta but that is probably a no go. How many of each can i fit in? should I leave a species out? I would really appreciate some help. Thanks for reading and forever a loyal subscriber and happy to be a new member.
Nice speech & very true facts what you conveyed
GREAT VIDEO!!!
What if you add more plants like duckweed and jungle val at the same time of fish and then do more little water changes to help maintain the spike? Also only feed a little to keep down on ammonia?
I tried to tell exactly that to my customers.... But my colleagues and the people most of the time don't care.....😒
Impulse control!!! Yes!!~!
An easy way around this "bomb" when starting a new tank is adding ammonia. But only for a new tank. If you have fish already... Dont do this. Lol
We all been there !!
That's not so vegan of you😂😂
Thank you for the video. I learn so much .
Been there done that! 😢 lesson learned
I love your channel keep it up
I did everything but didn't cycle my tank.. I took water from goldfish tank and mixed with new tank.. I tried setting up everything including heater for 6 neon tetras.. they all died overnight.. I felt so bad.. I was not okay for 2 days... then cycled the tank for two weeks.. brought hardy fish.. zebra danios they are all doing good.
Just like human population explosion in a huge city. We all choke to death and there is no sight of relief by stopping breeding like rabbits, the same happens in home aquariums. Overcrowded tanks in a store are fine but at home there is a rule on how many fish and how big a tank. For small fish in communities the safe number is 200g of fish for 50 gallon tank. 300g of fish for 80 gallon tank. 400g of fish for a 100 gallon tank. For medium fishes in communities the number by weight is different. If fish are 2-3 inches long then 25 different fish are the max for a 50 liter tank. Adding another 15 and it becomes a crowd. I am sure the store owner/stockist should have told you that. Overcrowding increases so many things, water parameters need weekly check ups, filters changed more often, substrate syphoned more often, diseases will run amok and fish getting sick more often in a pool of their own waste. I owned an aquarium store and know about overcrowded tanks in homes. But, like I said, in a store overcrowding is not a problem because most fishes in tanks will be sold within days and fish already are subjected to some stress but needed to be kept calm. Water changes and maintenance is done almost daily. So, no need to worry about store fishes. But home aquariums? You'll find out soon enough when you add dozens of different fish in a community.
Useful information nice one mate 🇬🇧
Oof
Zebra Danios are actually quite nasty and have been known to attack and hound tetras and other small fish. Not the placid community fish as some would have you believe.
This happened to me a few months ago all my tetra died
This video was every helpful
Bro you talk too much and you keep repeating same things over and over. But nice video...
Ah so thats how all my tetras and other small fish died. We got like 13 neon tetras and few guppies and some molly's all at the same time. We have a 10 gallon and had 3 gold fish first before we dumped all the other fish.
I did this. Went crazy buying fish. Then they started dying on me. I couldn't figure out what I did wrong. Now I know thank you John! 💖🐠😊
Soooo please tell me how we can add a school of fish like 6 corys to a tank with small tetras .......eventually for Betta.......??
If they need to be kept in schools....
Wait what if you did water changes then will it be ok? Let's say water change in a couple days after putting them in
Hi John how are you buddy😉👍🏻 I did that when I was a lot younger they lasted 3 days 😢. I didn't ad to many I added the to small and they was lunch for bigger fish 😖. We live and learn.
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In Europe we use (heavy) planted tanks, for example i have 80 litres (21 gals) where I have 10 zebra danios, 6 pepper cory, 6 ottos. No problem there, I only change 10-15 litres of water per 7-10 days. Czechs says "Fish tank starts with plants". And they are superpower in this hobby. Cycling heavy planted tank is so easy guys, everyone who start aquarium, f*ck amonia and bacteries in shops. Just plant, wait 3 weeks and put there 30% of your desired fishes. After week, buy more, and than if everything is ok, buy rest. Your fishes will be happy in heavy planted tank.
Nice video!
It's true, it's a risk for that to happen.
However, doubling the bioload isn't dangerous in and of itself, as long as the tank and filters are able to handle the total bioload.
The bacteria can double in 1-2 days, so if you do 25-30% water changes the first 3-5 days and don't change the feeding amount until the second week with the new fish, there is basically no burning fuse.
I see this is old, so I sincerely hope Cory has realized hard tacos are an American thing since this. Actual authentic tacos are "soft". 😂😂😂 The difference between a taco & burrito is size & what goes on it. I was raised in Dallas & married to a Latin gentleman for a couple of years, many years ago. His momma, who didn't even speak English, taught me how to make many authentic dishes. I never could make tortillas & miss those so bad. 😢
next time don't blame the danios people.
So, if you DID buy too many fish at once, what should you do to diffuse the bomb? More water changes? Add bacteria from a bottle?
I have an established 15 gallon tank that had 3 big angel fish. I moved them to a bigger home. The only fish left in the tank were 3 corys. I bought 3 tiny corys and 3 danios at once.
Any advice on diffusing the bomb?
I think u told what I’m doing wrong, I need a bigger tank lol great video 👍🙏❤️
Too much drama.. why you just tell us directly..😅
Too much drama.. why you just tell us directly..😅
I have
10pcs pink danios
8pcs cardinal tetra
6pcs black skirt tetra
8pcs Rummynose
1pc apple snail
6pcs cory
in a 10 gall. tank
Well they are 1yr and 6mos. surviving. 😂. It depends on how you take care of them.
John how about guppies? These fish are a smaller waste maker. I just recently purchased 6 to add to my 20 gallon that ALREADY had 8. Was six new guppies too many?!
I clicked the like button but.... I really didn't like that message 😪 I'm a fish store nut lol🤷🏾♂️
Haha yep that cheap price is exactly how I ended up with my zebras lol
One thing I accidentally got right
(Due to my budget ) was slowly adding more fish 🐠:)
I just got 8 Cardinals and was told if you have 10 fish already might only want to 2 groups of 4. You can 6 for the sale and They'll probably be fine. If you're going to do 6 why not go with the 8 you originally planned. Ok 8 it is.
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Is this ok or I'm addicting i bought 20 gallon and started dropping new fish every week, and eventually I added like 36 new fishes. Fml I must go but a new tank. I have over 70 fishes in my 25 gallon I think at most
You should make a reddit or discord page where we can discuss, share and ask you all the good stuff
I have just bought 6 2inceah r e tetras. And they r causing utter nuisance to other small fishesh. Constantly chasing and fighting / playing (I dont know). I am having 1 neon 4 guppies and 1 fighter. Pls guide urgently ifff i should replace or keep. Bz i m very much concerned now
Guilty as charged! Fed too much bloodworms…adding fishes more than the tank required! killed a lot!😢😔
Unfortunately most videos on here show tanks that are probably over populated
I have a tank with about 35 fish. It's a 30gal. To look at it you'd think mmmm maybe only 15 - then come feed time and they all come out. I would like to add a few more soon, I was thinking (cold water) some cories, the little ones that bottom feed,,,?
How many zebra Daniels can I add to my 20 long. Currently2 senior and 1 otocinclus. I want at least 2 more fotos and a total of 8 zebras, 2 or 3 amino shrimp and maybe a merits. Advice?
One rule I have stood by over the years is buying in thirds. If I want to add fish or start a new tank I get the fish in 3 separate Purchases. At least a week apart from each order. I have had really good luck and have not lost fish that way.
This was super helpful! I unfortunately did this because I didn't know better and everything in my tank started dying including my Betta, which is why I wanted a large tank for some tankmates for him. I couldn't figure out why the ammonia levels were high and how to fix it because nothing worked, chems, water changes, nothing. I'm even struggling with whether or not to try and keep a tank anymore after losing Nidavallir (my betta) all I wanted was a nice tank for him and some friends and I messed it all up. If anyone actually takes the time to read all of this and I decide to try to repopulate my tank, how many fish are safe to put in at once? And how long should I wait until I add more? I have a 15gal.
Ha! How did you know exactly what I did about a month ago, for exactly the reason you gave? Bomb went off within a week. Not only did I lose about half the new fish, but massive algae growth. That little impulse cost me several weeks of water changes, cleanings and rebalancing. Lesson learned.
Yea so true.. bomb just went off..now trying to put it off.. before it takes away all my fish..
How long should we wait in between buying groups a fish. I did a group of dwarf rainbows and added 4 Cory doras and 6 neons a week after. Did I plant a bomb?? 😭 it’s been about 3-4 weeks and everyone’s ok tho
Man the mistakes I have made in this hobby 🤦♀️🤦♀️ I’m so greatful for you guys and for the gentleman I know who’s been in the hobby for 34 years and his name just happens to be Steve 🤣🤣
So much easier to cycle if you already have a couple of tanks... Just get the bacteria from the cycled tanks... I'll then test and change the water twice a day, and add fish to the new tank once I get good readings.. And I'll still test the water twice a day for the next few days, changing the water as needed (10-,25% watwr change) to guard against a mini spike
I think I did ok? I have 24 neon tetras 2 male harlequins 2 albino cory dora's in a 15 gal w/ oversized canister filter. the only thing that died were the female harlequins and a handful of ghost shrimp
There was no such thing as a nitrogen cycle when I was a kid, lol, there were no problems.
We never put too many fish in because the fish were expensive, that is a self regulating mechanism 😂
I’m looking into getting a betta and then adding a small schooling fish like a Tetra or Pygmy Cory. In order to have a good school I’m thinking about getting 7. How do I make sure this doesn’t happen, when I get the 7 schooling fish. If I add them in I’m a group of 3 and one in 4 will that not stress them out... especially with a betta