Always nice seeing my favorite Portuguese guy love the vids you make you helped me make my 11 year old brother more interested in PC gaming and helped him understand what a good GPU and what a bad GPU looks like (I'm looking at you GT 710)
@@Monarchias I think you mean GDDR5 version but yeah that's the tolerable version but a GT 1030 would be a pretty big jump from that and that isn't a very great card either but glad you find pleasure in the little things lol
@@Scornfull Yes. And i have that one as well. Awesome budget buddy, both of them actually. Happy framerates with an i3-3240t and A8-6600k. 8GB ram for them, to stretch their consistency in tasks, and ssd boot drives. They are fulfilling their jobs.
Doesn't really matter what you decided to do a video on. Always entertained and know that you can teach something random while attempting to game in HD. I learn a lot from these vids and I'm always interested to see what I'll get next when a new one hits my notification bar from subscribing to your channel. That 100% oc was just so casually done lol wish my 5500xt could do the same
Ah I remember this chip well. Overclocking all the way to 933mhz! You can get yet more performance by overclocking system ram too. Allowed me to at least run starcraft 2, half life 2, area 51, and a few other lighter titles while I was trying to get another gpu
Tuning half life 2 on this chip with my grandfather while over at his place on the weekends was most of my childhood gaming. He got me into pcs with that old system and I still have it around as a minecraft server.
Me too. The Intel HD 3000 in Sandy bridge was a pretty ridiculous overclocker as well. Most motherboards even allowed igpu voltage tweaking still. The fact it's also called HD 3000 is just great.
I ran the Radeon 3000, on this motherboard I'm still using, overclocked to 500 MHz (to match the HD 3200 that I was too poor to buy instead) without ANY issues for years, and without active cooling, despite living in a place with 40°C summers. Good enough to allow me to play even the first Mass Effect :-)
Not only doubling the clock speed was incredible, bu the FPS gains were also pretty amazing! Damn, I wish I could send this video to my 15yo self in the past!!
7:03 You have my pity, we all know 2010s iGPUs didn't end up up what we all hoped for but I, for some months, had to use a laptop with Intel GMA graphics from the 2000s. I can only remotely imagine what kind of purgatory that was playing games on it!
Hey you forgot to do something, I had one of these. You had the core clock right but you MUST OC the memory in order for you to see some decent increases. Unless I missed your mem settings those were more important otherwise you can bottlneck the settings, I know I went from a 1066 DDR3 ->DDR1600 and wowie.
Great video as always. This reminds me of my Pentium D computer back in the day, it was really unplayable in the most games, but still had fun with it :')
I remember doing my first overclocking work on a PC, and we had to change up all these jumper switches and swap out clock crystals on the motherboard to do any of that. Doing everything via the BIOS or software these days is just so much less work.
@@matthewplehn4271 the last machine I did anything of this nature to was from 1987, and was an IBM AT clone from a company I've never heard of before. And I'm only ten years younger than you, so in the tech world the two of us are dinosaurs. 🤣
@@DeathMetalDerf Man I feel like one too, the core 2 duo was a monster when I was a kid and the quad core was a powerhouse that I'd never thought I'd see become so insignificant
Hey, this reminds me something - you can try to o\c memory as well as bus/NB - this could give you additional performance boost =) Thanks for the nostalgic videos, man!
This would have been so helpful to know back in like 2011-2014. I was rocking a Athlon II X4 640 (My first quad core cpu) and was running it on a very similar motherboard from Gigabyte as well (GA-MA785GM-US2H). It had the built in Radeon HD 4200 gpu so it was a little bit more powerful in that department, it could play HL2 max graphics 900p (minus AA) but for anything more demanding I had to run in windowed mode 240p and enjoy a 12fps experience (I played at least 100hr of APB Reloaded this way back then). I also upgraded it to a whole whopping 8gb of DDR2 800mhz G.Skill memory and didn't even make use of it for half a year cause I didn't realize my version of Windows XP was 32bit :)
I had the USB3 model of the GA-78LMT motherboard. I remember when I was complaining about the noise it made (had an FX 6300 with the horrendous stock cooler) and an HD 7730. The computer repair shop that we went to just decided to remove the GPU altogether and rely on the motherboard graphics... Games went from playable to powerpoint slideshows. Needless to say I got the GPU back
The HD3000 onboard GPU was a revelation when it came out - it enabled Blu-ray playback on my HTPC without a power hungry discrete card for the first time. Thankfully, I never tried actually gaming on that system!
I never even knew that MB did have onboard gfx! I have been in this PC game for ages! ( First CPU was Pentium 166Mhz MMX with a 4 Mb Gfx card!) I was hooked then, and upgraded it to a Voodoo card. From then on Discrete GPUs all the way! Thanks for the knowledge and always entertaining vids. Keep it up mate 🙂
Honestly, enjoyable PC gaming can really be done on ANY hardware. I remember being stuck with my mothers Turion II laptop with a HD4200 graphics over a weekend. I was able to enjoy myself with some Rayman Legends, Huntdown, Stardew Valley, Ikaruga etc.
@PC_Modder Definitely! The gaming community often sees 1080p60fps as the absolute minimum for gaming. Yet, not too long ago we enjoyed gaming at 720p30fps. Not to mention an old fart like myself which was used to play 3D games running at ~200p at 8 to 15fps on the Amiga in the late 80's 🤣 it's all about perspective. Sure these games were often constructed with low fps in mind, but still! we can definitely make do with far less than what tech media makes us believe. :)
@@lord_khufu definitely. Heck. I remember playing Super Nintendo games in the late 90's on my aging Pentium 166MHz. I was able to squeeze many hours of fun out of that. Not to mention all the cool MS-DOS games I played at the time. (Little Big Adventure, Sim City 2000, Warcraft II, Doom, Duke Nukem 3D... heck, I could even play Quake and Quake II on it as I bought a used Nvidia Riva TNT 2 in 1998) 😊
Always nice to see old school stuff on youtube :) Stille have an GTS 9800+(PCI-e gen 2), HD7870, HD7950 and a HD4670 (if I remember correctly), if you want to test them out :)
My most gleeful memory is seeing hardware accelerated game on a Riva TNT 16MB for the first time after running Half Life 1 and Quake 2 in software mode for 2 years.
I have this motherboard in my daughters pc with an fx6300, perfect for her, always wondered about the on board graphics, awesome that its able to overclock that well, probably would be awesome for a retro pc with windows xp
This onboard GPU is special to me as it introduced me to gaming, I bought my first "gaming" pc with a Phenom x4 with the intention of adding a dedicated GPU later on and I was genuinely impressed by the onboard graphics, I used to play a lot of Half Life 2 and Minecraft on this and that's how I entered the world of gaming
@@darkseeker102 I wish I had 1GB on my graphics back then :(. I was playing Skyrim with a modified ini file on a Nvidia 6150se nforce 430 onboard GPU with 256mb of shared memory. Last game I tried to squeeze out of it.
Radeon 3000 was the lowend variant of onboard graphics too. Back then reasonably price boards had radeon 3200, and slightly more expensive even had radeon 3300. Hd 3200 graphics in the day (2008) was pretty awesome for being onboard.
Though my mini HD 530 can't be overclocked in any way it's an impressive little system being able to run GTA 5 at playable framerates and almost being able to run Apex and Fortnite at playable framerates but what it shines in the most is emulation of older systems, its small size and low wattage draw. With AVX2 builds of PCSX2 it plays most titles just fine and runs texture packs of N64 Zelda games very well and can even run BOTW at 30 FPS
My first rig had a 530 in it. Gotta say, that chip was one hell of a trooper since I was able to play competitively to some degree in certain shooters during the late 2000s up to the early 2010s.
@@ludapecurka102 because it's using integrated graphics and came out in 2014 and it manages to play a lot of games despite most APUs to this day especially Intel APUs struggle to play games even with better and newer hardware and bruh it can run BOTW a game that's pretty new in terms of emulation and it's more than playable and that was like a year ago I'm sure it would run even better now if I installed it again with a newer version of CEMU
You can hybrid crossfire these GPU's with either the HD 3450 or the HD 3470. The HD 3470 is the lowest card to ever have crossfire connectors on the card. They also overclock really well 900mhz+ on the core.
Personally, I think it's better to run around in The Ragged Flagon (Thieves' Guild area) for Skyrim tests since it's easily one of the most demanding places for weak cards.
This video reminded me of, when i OC-d my nForce 8200 on my ASUS M4N78 PRO just to play Bioshock 1 on lowest graphics at 640x480 with 30fps, also being an nVidia chipset it run around 90+°C all the time
That's a great video and wow, what an OC! Glad these days are over, had a Laptop with Intel GMA and the IGPUs of today, or even 10 years ago, are sooooo much more useful!
I bought an Asus m4a78t-e with a 790gx chipset, and a Radeon HD 3300. That was like having an APU today. There was nothing at that time from intel to compete in price range. It helped to game while saving money for a HD 5870 + GT 240 for PhysX. Would be owesome to see a comparison to intel iGPU solutions from that era.
Did you try overclocking the ram too? It is using system ram. IIRC- you could really do a significant percentage OC on some ram back then (because it was so slow).
The gta 5 could still be playable if you reduce screen resolution to 640x480, disable shadows and reflections, and also reduced draw distance a bit, all possible in config file. Same thing with skyrim, that game can run at twice the framerate with disabling shadows (which do look bad on low settings anyway) and reducing the distant objects draw distance.
The first time experiencing 60 fps in gaming was when I upgraded from a Celeron 466mhz+SIS 8mb onboard graphics to a AMD thunderbird 800mhz+GeForce 2 GTS 32mb, it was wonderous
Back in the old days, I had a (back then) new HP laptop with Turion 1800. Laptop had integrated graphics (not sure if its was on Mobo or in the CPU) ATi X1200 (or 1300?) and it was struggling with Half Life 2 and Stalker, Ghost Recon and maybe some old Need For Speed I used to play back then. Until I discovered there was a thing called "AtiTool" where you can OC the GPU from windows - and it helped a lot to up and stabilise frame rates a lot. All in exchange for tornado sounds, but I had a huge external logitech 5+1 set so that was no real issue...
I don't know about ya all , but my teenagehood is based on ya content , glad to see after those years you are unchanged , i feel so nostalgic , and i am not even into 30s
I used to overclock the geforce 6150SE just so I could play F.E.A.R haha. Except I used Msi Afterburner. And yes the old Intel gmas (900, 950, 3650) can be overclocked using Gmabooster (you'll have to set back your computers date back to when the last version of that program was released thought, otherwise it won't install, don't remember the exact date anymore though)
Oh damn, you had an old family Celeron as well? I remember sticking an extra stick of DDR in there (that I _definitely_ hadn’t stolen from a school computer) to go from 512MB to a blazing 1GB. CS1.6 at an incredible 20-30FPS at 1280 x 1024 was somehow still just as entertaining as Halo 3/Reach and MW2 on my 360
I think the issue with those onboard chips is they don't get updated in the drivers. Drivers make a big difference. You're lucky to get an update. I have one I want a newer driver for. People made video's about how to add a GPU to the driver package but I need someone to do it for me. Get my motherboard and update they hybrid graphics driver would make a good video and share driver plz.
I used to have my on board graphics in crosfore with my deticated GPU. Both in the 4000 series on a AM2+ board. No idea what it did to performance as I wasn't a gamer at the time but the option was there so I did it.
I have this exact mother board at my place. I should find something like an HD3470 and see of I can get them working together. Those 2 should play nice together iirc.
On my Radeon 3000, going from stock 350 MHz to 500 MHz (to match the Radeon HD 3200) meant going from unplayable to "ok, I can play like this" in many games :-)
Back in the day I was able to overclock both the CPU and GMA950 graphics in a Samsung netbook. It made it run too hot to be practical though (not that those things ever really were)
San Andreas actually runs at 15fps max (except mods), and then each frame is presented twice in succession, in order to appear as "30" fps. I know San Andreas' age meets with the age of the parts, but it is a good idea to note this when looking at stutter, smoothness and performance in GTA SA. Because by default, San Andreas will not look smooth at "full speed", because it's more like 15fps with artificial stutter / frame duplication. Source: GTA SA Speedrunning community, specifically Joshimuz
Imagine if amd went back to this kind of thing. Where the graphics were on the board. You could have your 6800X3D with it's massive cache. And an RDNA3 8-12CU on board.
I had the ASUS M4A785-M Board with an integrated HD4000. That one ran 400MHz out of the box if I remember correctly. I mindlessly set it to 1000 MHz and went ahead to use it. Ran great. Was really capable for an iGPU and even played games. I believe it only survived the 1000 because of the rather large heatsink that was strapped to it. It was really hot when I noticed I may have gone over board with setting it way too high. Still, STALKER, San Andreas, Minecraft, all those and more have been usable.
RE overclocking the GMA graphics - I used to use a program called GMA Booster on my old netbooks, never noticed much of a difference though. I had the MSI Wind U100 which offered a CPU overclock from 1.6ghz to 2.0ghz which did impove things somewhat.
I actually have one of these on my asus am3 board. I t only has an athlon x2 in it all being with 8gb ram. It was a broken pc i saved. I slapped in an hp oem 2gb 730 in it and she's doing alright for every day tasks.
This is something that I have always been curious about with the GeForce 6150SE, Nvidia's Integrated Graphics that came on the original Socket AM2 Motherboard that I used for the eMachines ET1331G-07w before turning it into the Ryzen 5950X/Radeon VII Sleeper PC that it is today; eMachines did not offer any known form of Overclocking on the BIOS for the Motherboard (Model ECS MCP61PM-GM (Revision 02.02, or "2.2")) that came with every ET1331G unit, so we will obviously need to look for Third Party solutions with this iGPU that are able to do this without handicaps, it truly was effective for both Gaming and Media Production in 2009 and the years to follow that those without a Graphics Card truly could get some decent use running this in their build so long as they didn't go above Standard Definition (0480p) or Progressive Mode (0576p).
my mate used to game on an X200 chipset from 2007 on a P4. He could play Day of Defeat Source and CS:S but only if it was on orange maps, as the flat textures took a load off the GPU. Good times.
I'll keep reminding people, anyone who still using DDR3 based system, disable the High Precision Event Timer aka HPET from the Device Manager or BIOS. Instant boost for everything you do. Including Gaming For those who already have DDR4 or DDR5 based system, the HPET already disabled by default from the factory anyway.
Back in 2013 I had a old am2+ motherboard with a phenom ii x2 8gb ddr2 800mhz with this internal gpu on board. I got it to 800mhz and was able to play samp and a few other games until I got a gpu (I got a gtx 660 afterwards) sold that motherboard few months ago. Lasted me 10year and still running. It was a gigabyte motherboard also.
I still remember playing AC2 on my 1st gen i3 laptop with HD graphics 2500 at 20 fps having to look down at the ground while running to get anywhere.. good times..
Gonna be all rgbey tomorrow, the G100M cooler arrived and I have dug out all my LED strips and stuff to put some bling in ma ting... When I saw the G100 being reviewed on another channel I knew I had to have one and I got a brand new virgin, never out of box one for a tenner delivered, can't wait :D
I can't believe GTA SA has basically triple the framerate on some freaking motherboard integrated graphics and with higher visual settings compared to my old PC that had a discrete GPU...
I remember having a laptop with GMA 945 (or 915 it was?) graphics, some dual core Acer, limited in BIOS to 2.5G DDR2. I found a small utility that increased the core clock and I ran it for few years. At one point, the benefit of overclocking was being able to play facebook games on browser and other flash games that otherwise were too slow. Another big advance was playing 720pHD videos on a chip that was only able to play 480p.
Ah really nice. I love lowend overclocking. I had this integrated GPU myself, if i remember correctly. I had an AMD Phenom X2 550 on a DFI LANparty JR 790GX-M2RS, which had this GPU as far as I know. and also 128mb integrated video memory.
My last rig had that exact motherboard and I never knew about the whole mobo grafx could be tweaked O.o It has risen to play again as my daughter is building a second machine to act as a gateway server for her to host Minecraft servers on her main machine whilst using our laptop to do computery things on, now I know about the mobo grafx I can swipe back the 780ti to flog on ebay :D
I had a motherboard that was VERY simillar to this one, with the same ATI Radeon graphics, only in my case I used an Athlon X4 640 and 4 gigs of RAM. I vividly remember playing Fortnite with this setup back in 2018.
Back around 2008-2013 Gigabyte specifically were very in on it being the future since it performed worlds better than the intel igpu or the AMD APUs at the time. Around that time I had a Gigabyte board with a HD4000 (GA-MA785GM-US2H rev. 3.3). Wish I knew I could OC it though, I did a lot of windowed mode/low setting mayhem to get some games to be "playable", which back then was like 15fps for me (Source games like HL2 ran max settings minus AA with good frames at least)
If you look at the benchmarks between the 1090t and the Vishera 8350, there is literally not a lot between the two showing the Phenom punches well above its weight against a chip with two whole cores more, my old rig has the cooler melting 9590 which was a straight out 5ghz monster but the 1090t could easily keep up pretty much.
I have this MOBO, It's bad where games graphics quality is concerned but has proven useful when troubleshooting Graphics cards or just providing a display out whilst I wait for a new card to arrive/ be bought
woah . thank you for this ! i have an igpu motherboard and i want to use it for something but i was scared its too weak , now i might use it for an emulation system or something .
Overclocking the onboard Intel iGPU was possible. Not ever iGPU mind you but there is a tool called GMA Booster which can overclock the crap out of some of them for a substantial performance boost.
You should try to find one of the weird chinese x99 mobos with gtx graphics on them (I think up to a 1050ti). Apparently they're fun to fuck with if you can find an unlocked bios.
You should consider testing Runescape (both Old School and RS3) in the future on similarly specced machines, it would be interesting to see. I can't believe how well some of these games ran, it makes me wonder what was in my cheap old Dell machine from 2005 that ran Runescape at like 13 FPS.
Hey just a heads up, the Phenom II X6 1090T is a 125w TDP and the motherboard officially supports CPUs up to 95w, the 3+1 phase design is pretty weak but suitable for a budget motherboard from that time. Not a good combo in my opinion, it may damage the motherboard or the CPU. =)
There actually are/was boards with a Radeon HD built in, boards with the AMD 880G chipset for example such as the MSI 880GM-E35 AM3 motherboard got a intergrated Radeon HD 4250
Yeah you can OC built-into the mobo GPUs but only if mobo itself is not a pure nothing, and if OC option is available - generally all these igpu/apu can OC very very high! Don't think I ever saw a 100% clock gain yet till today but they all can go to like 30-60% more on core clock which is insane
I have one ASUS AM3 motherboard, purchased in 2011. It has same ATI 3000 GPU, surprisingly its even compatible with Windows 10. The chipset do get heated up if you open too much tabs. My CPU is AMD FX 6300.
This is hilarious. I can't believe you did worse on Skyrim than I do on my A8-6410 laptop, which is a way, way inferior CPU with a comparatively decent GPU. On CS:GO there's no way I'm hitting 20 FPS tho, I'm CPU bottlenecked all the way. I wish I could overclock my GPU even a tiny bit but these APUs are 100% locked.
It made me remember my day without discrete GPU back in 2008-2010, my Radeon HD 3200 along with Athlon II X2 4800+ and 2 GB DDR2 RAM work very hard (probably a bit abused ) to play GRID, Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead, and the notorious GTA 4 all at glorious 800x600 on my 17" CRT with probably less than 30 FPS (but 800x600 at the time on CRT I remember didnt look that bad like on video above). The motherboard itself hold through 2 GPU upgrade (Radeon HD 6850 and GTX 660) and 1 CPU upgrade (Phenom II X4 840) before finally the memory slot gave up in 2016 (what an 8yrs old of great computing) and push me into Skylake ecosystem (AMD is bad during that year) . I still wish it hold one more year so I can upgrade to another AMD chipset with Ryzen and enjoy probably another decade of AMD longevity (Im already switch back into AMD in 2020 with Ryzen 5 2600 though and wish it hold at least as long as my last AMD system)
G'day Random, that was really cool as I didn't know you could OC the Graphics on these Mobos either, I have the 78LMT-USB3 Rev: 5.0 (Black PCB) for my FX6300 & this seems like some fun to be had at some stage but for when I do want to use it Gaming I think I'll stick to the Graphics supplied by my Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 🥰
I do sorta miss the days of chipset graphics. The Old X Series ones made up a decent chunk of my PC Gaming growing up.
Why does this video and many big youtubers SHOW under a search for the rare/beastly: RADEON WX 8200?
If only you'd known about this overclock then lol
Miss your videos man 😄
Why you not uploading everyday?
@@Annyumi_ Why you not uploading every day?
Didn't know these could be overclocked! Nice gains!
It could've been a bit less painful with the OC when I tested it ahahah
Always nice seeing my favorite Portuguese guy love the vids you make you helped me make my 11 year old brother more interested in PC gaming and helped him understand what a good GPU and what a bad GPU looks like (I'm looking at you GT 710)
@@Scornfull I just love my ddr5 2GB version. Extra fan added. :)
@@Monarchias I think you mean GDDR5 version but yeah that's the tolerable version but a GT 1030 would be a pretty big jump from that and that isn't a very great card either but glad you find pleasure in the little things lol
@@Scornfull Yes. And i have that one as well. Awesome budget buddy, both of them actually. Happy framerates with an i3-3240t and A8-6600k. 8GB ram for them, to stretch their consistency in tasks, and ssd boot drives. They are fulfilling their jobs.
@@Monarchias They're pretty good solutions for older games or emulation of older systems like the N64 or PS2
Doesn't really matter what you decided to do a video on. Always entertained and know that you can teach something random while attempting to game in HD.
I learn a lot from these vids and I'm always interested to see what I'll get next when a new one hits my notification bar from subscribing to your channel. That 100% oc was just so casually done lol wish my 5500xt could do the same
Haha thanks for watching :)
I like how you drew a cross over "hd" lol
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@@RandomGaminginHD you are a genius lmfao
RandomGamingin720p
I question myself if this even run TH-cam in HD
@@brandonvo9727 720p is still hd
Ah I remember this chip well. Overclocking all the way to 933mhz! You can get yet more performance by overclocking system ram too. Allowed me to at least run starcraft 2, half life 2, area 51, and a few other lighter titles while I was trying to get another gpu
Tuning half life 2 on this chip with my grandfather while over at his place on the weekends was most of my childhood gaming. He got me into pcs with that old system and I still have it around as a minecraft server.
This is a pretty fun experiment.
I would like to see overclocking an Intel iGPU next. I've experimented with ocing the igpu on my i7 2600k.
Me too. The Intel HD 3000 in Sandy bridge was a pretty ridiculous overclocker as well. Most motherboards even allowed igpu voltage tweaking still. The fact it's also called HD 3000 is just great.
@@Dsntmtter2ME yes. The one in my i5-2500T could be overclocked from.. I think 1100 to 1900MHz
I ran the Radeon 3000, on this motherboard I'm still using, overclocked to 500 MHz (to match the HD 3200 that I was too poor to buy instead) without ANY issues for years, and without active cooling, despite living in a place with 40°C summers.
Good enough to allow me to play even the first Mass Effect :-)
Is it Gigabyte motherboard?
@@jakecameron3496 Mine is a BIOSTAR A760G-M2+. Can be overclocked from the BIOS (on the NorthBridge settings, usually below the UMA size).
Not only doubling the clock speed was incredible, bu the FPS gains were also pretty amazing! Damn, I wish I could send this video to my 15yo self in the past!!
7:03 You have my pity, we all know 2010s iGPUs didn't end up up what we all hoped for but I, for some months, had to use a laptop with Intel GMA graphics from the 2000s. I can only remotely imagine what kind of purgatory that was playing games on it!
Well, with Intel budget iGPUs you could always play games released 10 years prior :D
@@aleksazunjic9672 lol, could be true but I think I remember, once DirectX9 was out DirectX 7&8 didn't get support for much longer xD
@@Quast You could not play DirectX 7 games with that iGPU anyway 😁
Hey you forgot to do something, I had one of these. You had the core clock right but you MUST OC the memory in order for you to see some decent increases. Unless I missed your mem settings those were more important otherwise you can bottlneck the settings, I know I went from a 1066 DDR3 ->DDR1600 and wowie.
So that’s why the gains are kinda small. Makes sense, I was wondering about that
Great video as always.
This reminds me of my Pentium D computer back in the day, it was really unplayable in the most games, but still had fun with it :')
Loved the pentium D
@@RandomGaminginHD It was a great childhood with that HP prebuild . It was paired with an GeForce 9300 GE . :D
I have a Pentium d pc which is a hp pre built
I remember doing my first overclocking work on a PC, and we had to change up all these jumper switches and swap out clock crystals on the motherboard to do any of that. Doing everything via the BIOS or software these days is just so much less work.
Im 51...what your describing sounds like it was before my time...which in tech years is like 100
@@matthewplehn4271 the last machine I did anything of this nature to was from 1987, and was an IBM AT clone from a company I've never heard of before. And I'm only ten years younger than you, so in the tech world the two of us are dinosaurs. 🤣
@@matthewplehn4271 Well it definitely in your time but PCs weren't even as close as popular at the time as they are now
@@DeathMetalDerf Man I feel like one too, the core 2 duo was a monster when I was a kid and the quad core was a powerhouse that I'd never thought I'd see become so insignificant
Hey, this reminds me something - you can try to o\c memory as well as bus/NB - this could give you additional performance boost =)
Thanks for the nostalgic videos, man!
This would have been so helpful to know back in like 2011-2014. I was rocking a Athlon II X4 640 (My first quad core cpu) and was running it on a very similar motherboard from Gigabyte as well (GA-MA785GM-US2H). It had the built in Radeon HD 4200 gpu so it was a little bit more powerful in that department, it could play HL2 max graphics 900p (minus AA) but for anything more demanding I had to run in windowed mode 240p and enjoy a 12fps experience (I played at least 100hr of APB Reloaded this way back then). I also upgraded it to a whole whopping 8gb of DDR2 800mhz G.Skill memory and didn't even make use of it for half a year cause I didn't realize my version of Windows XP was 32bit :)
Total madlad. I'm really impressed at the performance increase you managed to achieve!
I had the USB3 model of the GA-78LMT motherboard. I remember when I was complaining about the noise it made (had an FX 6300 with the horrendous stock cooler) and an HD 7730. The computer repair shop that we went to just decided to remove the GPU altogether and rely on the motherboard graphics... Games went from playable to powerpoint slideshows. Needless to say I got the GPU back
Doesn't sound like you would go there again! xD
@@Quast Yeah this was when I was 11-12 years old lol. I'm now far wiser with computer hardware
O wow this if the first motherboard I've heard of that has onboard graphics.
The HD3000 onboard GPU was a revelation when it came out - it enabled Blu-ray playback on my HTPC without a power hungry discrete card for the first time. Thankfully, I never tried actually gaming on that system!
That GTAV footage looks like a lego timelapse video, nicely done, sir!
This is the quality content I come here for. Thank you.
😂 thanks for watching :)
I never even knew that MB did have onboard gfx! I have been in this PC game for ages! ( First CPU was Pentium 166Mhz MMX with a 4 Mb Gfx card!) I was hooked then, and upgraded it to a Voodoo card. From then on Discrete GPUs all the way! Thanks for the knowledge and always entertaining vids. Keep it up mate 🙂
Honestly, enjoyable PC gaming can really be done on ANY hardware. I remember being stuck with my mothers Turion II laptop with a HD4200 graphics over a weekend. I was able to enjoy myself with some Rayman Legends, Huntdown, Stardew Valley, Ikaruga etc.
Awesome, I’ve experienced 4200 graphics myself too 😁
you can start with anything, but can't go back
not only pc games but you can also emulate other consoles to play even more games
@PC_Modder Definitely! The gaming community often sees 1080p60fps as the absolute minimum for gaming. Yet, not too long ago we enjoyed gaming at 720p30fps. Not to mention an old fart like myself which was used to play 3D games running at ~200p at 8 to 15fps on the Amiga in the late 80's 🤣 it's all about perspective. Sure these games were often constructed with low fps in mind, but still! we can definitely make do with far less than what tech media makes us believe. :)
@@lord_khufu definitely. Heck. I remember playing Super Nintendo games in the late 90's on my aging Pentium 166MHz. I was able to squeeze many hours of fun out of that. Not to mention all the cool MS-DOS games I played at the time. (Little Big Adventure, Sim City 2000, Warcraft II, Doom, Duke Nukem 3D... heck, I could even play Quake and Quake II on it as I bought a used Nvidia Riva TNT 2 in 1998) 😊
Its realy impressive because i did it my pc 2 days ago :D (ati radeon 3000 series) 350 to 975 just for fun.
Awesome, what a great increase!
"it looks like someones overclocked the gravity" made my day when i should be revising for gcse maths paper 3 lol
Good luck in your exam, I scraped a C in maths and I struggle to multiply single digit numbers, so I’m sure you’ll be fine 😂
Always nice to see old school stuff on youtube :) Stille have an GTS 9800+(PCI-e gen 2), HD7870, HD7950 and a HD4670 (if I remember correctly), if you want to test them out :)
My most gleeful memory is seeing hardware accelerated game on a Riva TNT 16MB for the first time after running Half Life 1 and Quake 2 in software mode for 2 years.
I have this motherboard in my daughters pc with an fx6300, perfect for her, always wondered about the on board graphics, awesome that its able to overclock that well, probably would be awesome for a retro pc with windows xp
This onboard GPU is special to me as it introduced me to gaming, I bought my first "gaming" pc with a Phenom x4 with the intention of adding a dedicated GPU later on and I was genuinely impressed by the onboard graphics, I used to play a lot of Half Life 2 and Minecraft on this and that's how I entered the world of gaming
I remember I first started with a amd APU because of money forgot which one. then my first GPU a HD 7770 and that 1gb seemed great then.
@@darkseeker102 I wish I had 1GB on my graphics back then :(. I was playing Skyrim with a modified ini file on a Nvidia 6150se nforce 430 onboard GPU with 256mb of shared memory. Last game I tried to squeeze out of it.
Radeon 3000 was the lowend variant of onboard graphics too. Back then reasonably price boards had radeon 3200, and slightly more expensive even had radeon 3300.
Hd 3200 graphics in the day (2008) was pretty awesome for being onboard.
Though my mini HD 530 can't be overclocked in any way it's an impressive little system being able to run GTA 5 at playable framerates and almost being able to run Apex and Fortnite at playable framerates but what it shines in the most is emulation of older systems, its small size and low wattage draw. With AVX2 builds of PCSX2 it plays most titles just fine and runs texture packs of N64 Zelda games very well and can even run BOTW at 30 FPS
That’s incredible actually haha
Hows that even impressive lmao
My first rig had a 530 in it. Gotta say, that chip was one hell of a trooper since I was able to play competitively to some degree in certain shooters during the late 2000s up to the early 2010s.
@@ludapecurka102 because it's using integrated graphics and came out in 2014 and it manages to play a lot of games despite most APUs to this day especially Intel APUs struggle to play games even with better and newer hardware and bruh it can run BOTW a game that's pretty new in terms of emulation and it's more than playable and that was like a year ago I'm sure it would run even better now if I installed it again with a newer version of CEMU
@@ludapecurka102 also the system can literally be held in my hand and it weighs like 3 pounds and isn't maxed out
You can hybrid crossfire these GPU's with either the HD 3450 or the HD 3470. The HD 3470 is the lowest card to ever have crossfire connectors on the card. They also overclock really well 900mhz+ on the core.
Personally, I think it's better to run around in The Ragged Flagon (Thieves' Guild area) for Skyrim tests since it's easily one of the most demanding places for weak cards.
This video reminded me of, when i OC-d my nForce 8200 on my ASUS M4N78 PRO just to play Bioshock 1 on lowest graphics at 640x480 with 30fps, also being an nVidia chipset it run around 90+°C all the time
That's a great video and wow, what an OC! Glad these days are over, had a Laptop with Intel GMA and the IGPUs of today, or even 10 years ago, are sooooo much more useful!
I bought an Asus m4a78t-e with a 790gx chipset, and a Radeon HD 3300. That was like having an APU today. There was nothing at that time from intel to compete in price range.
It helped to game while saving money for a HD 5870 + GT 240 for PhysX.
Would be owesome to see a comparison to intel iGPU solutions from that era.
Did you try overclocking the ram too? It is using system ram. IIRC- you could really do a significant percentage OC on some ram back then (because it was so slow).
The gta 5 could still be playable if you reduce screen resolution to 640x480, disable shadows and reflections, and also reduced draw distance a bit, all possible in config file. Same thing with skyrim, that game can run at twice the framerate with disabling shadows (which do look bad on low settings anyway) and reducing the distant objects draw distance.
But for what i see, he was already playing at 400x300, as he cut down the 800X600 by half on resolution scale
@@RenatoMQSantos yes, and you can get it to 320x240 if you set the game resolution to 640x480 with 0,5x scaling
The first time experiencing 60 fps in gaming was when I upgraded from a Celeron 466mhz+SIS 8mb onboard graphics to a AMD thunderbird 800mhz+GeForce 2 GTS 32mb, it was wonderous
Back in the old days, I had a (back then) new HP laptop with Turion 1800. Laptop had integrated graphics (not sure if its was on Mobo or in the CPU) ATi X1200 (or 1300?) and it was struggling with Half Life 2 and Stalker, Ghost Recon and maybe some old Need For Speed I used to play back then. Until I discovered there was a thing called "AtiTool" where you can OC the GPU from windows - and it helped a lot to up and stabilise frame rates a lot. All in exchange for tornado sounds, but I had a huge external logitech 5+1 set so that was no real issue...
I don't know about ya all , but my teenagehood is based on ya content , glad to see after those years you are unchanged , i feel so nostalgic , and i am not even into 30s
I used to overclock the geforce 6150SE just so I could play F.E.A.R haha. Except I used Msi Afterburner.
And yes the old Intel gmas (900, 950, 3650) can be overclocked using Gmabooster (you'll have to set back your computers date back to when the last version of that program was released thought, otherwise it won't install, don't remember the exact date anymore though)
Oh damn, you had an old family Celeron as well? I remember sticking an extra stick of DDR in there (that I _definitely_ hadn’t stolen from a school computer) to go from 512MB to a blazing 1GB. CS1.6 at an incredible 20-30FPS at 1280 x 1024 was somehow still just as entertaining as Halo 3/Reach and MW2 on my 360
I think the issue with those onboard chips is they don't get updated in the drivers. Drivers make a big difference. You're lucky to get an update. I have one I want a newer driver for. People made video's about how to add a GPU to the driver package but I need someone to do it for me. Get my motherboard and update they hybrid graphics driver would make a good video and share driver plz.
I used to have my on board graphics in crosfore with my deticated GPU. Both in the 4000 series on a AM2+ board. No idea what it did to performance as I wasn't a gamer at the time but the option was there so I did it.
I have this exact mother board at my place. I should find something like an HD3470 and see of I can get them working together. Those 2 should play nice together iirc.
On my Radeon 3000, going from stock 350 MHz to 500 MHz (to match the Radeon HD 3200) meant going from unplayable to "ok, I can play like this" in many games :-)
@@foobar-9k Nice! I think mine still runs at 660mhz. This little thing pushes surprisingly well.
Back in the day I was able to overclock both the CPU and GMA950 graphics in a Samsung netbook. It made it run too hot to be practical though (not that those things ever really were)
u still doing budget videos in 2022, very nice
San Andreas actually runs at 15fps max (except mods), and then each frame is presented twice in succession, in order to appear as "30" fps.
I know San Andreas' age meets with the age of the parts, but it is a good idea to note this when looking at stutter, smoothness and performance in GTA SA.
Because by default, San Andreas will not look smooth at "full speed", because it's more like 15fps with artificial stutter / frame duplication.
Source: GTA SA Speedrunning community, specifically Joshimuz
The original Asynchronous Space Warp.
I remember overclocking my old on-board GeForce 4 MX back in the day to play COD1 at 1280x1024... good times.
Imagine if amd went back to this kind of thing. Where the graphics were on the board. You could have your 6800X3D with it's massive cache. And an RDNA3 8-12CU on board.
I had the ASUS M4A785-M Board with an integrated HD4000. That one ran 400MHz out of the box if I remember correctly.
I mindlessly set it to 1000 MHz and went ahead to use it.
Ran great. Was really capable for an iGPU and even played games.
I believe it only survived the 1000 because of the rather large heatsink that was strapped to it. It was really hot when I noticed I may have gone over board with setting it way too high.
Still, STALKER, San Andreas, Minecraft, all those and more have been usable.
RE overclocking the GMA graphics - I used to use a program called GMA Booster on my old netbooks, never noticed much of a difference though. I had the MSI Wind U100 which offered a CPU overclock from 1.6ghz to 2.0ghz which did impove things somewhat.
I actually have one of these on my asus am3 board. I t only has an athlon x2 in it all being with 8gb ram. It was a broken pc i saved. I slapped in an hp oem 2gb 730 in it and she's doing alright for every day tasks.
This is something that I have always been curious about with the GeForce 6150SE, Nvidia's Integrated Graphics that came on the original Socket AM2 Motherboard that I used for the eMachines ET1331G-07w before turning it into the Ryzen 5950X/Radeon VII Sleeper PC that it is today; eMachines did not offer any known form of Overclocking on the BIOS for the Motherboard (Model ECS MCP61PM-GM (Revision 02.02, or "2.2")) that came with every ET1331G unit, so we will obviously need to look for Third Party solutions with this iGPU that are able to do this without handicaps, it truly was effective for both Gaming and Media Production in 2009 and the years to follow that those without a Graphics Card truly could get some decent use running this in their build so long as they didn't go above Standard Definition (0480p) or Progressive Mode (0576p).
my mate used to game on an X200 chipset from 2007 on a P4. He could play Day of Defeat Source and CS:S but only if it was on orange maps, as the flat textures took a load off the GPU. Good times.
I'll keep reminding people, anyone who still using DDR3 based system, disable the High Precision Event Timer aka HPET from the Device Manager or BIOS.
Instant boost for everything you do. Including Gaming
For those who already have DDR4 or DDR5 based system, the HPET already disabled by default from the factory anyway.
Your channel absolutely rocks. :)
Back in 2013 I had a old am2+ motherboard with a phenom ii x2 8gb ddr2 800mhz with this internal gpu on board. I got it to 800mhz and was able to play samp and a few other games until I got a gpu (I got a gtx 660 afterwards) sold that motherboard few months ago. Lasted me 10year and still running. It was a gigabyte motherboard also.
I still remember playing AC2 on my 1st gen i3 laptop with HD graphics 2500 at 20 fps having to look down at the ground while running to get anywhere.. good times..
Gonna be all rgbey tomorrow, the G100M cooler arrived and I have dug out all my LED strips and stuff to put some bling in ma ting... When I saw the G100 being reviewed on another channel I knew I had to have one and I got a brand new virgin, never out of box one for a tenner delivered, can't wait :D
I can't believe GTA SA has basically triple the framerate on some freaking motherboard integrated graphics and with higher visual settings compared to my old PC that had a discrete GPU...
I remember having a laptop with GMA 945 (or 915 it was?) graphics, some dual core Acer, limited in BIOS to 2.5G DDR2. I found a small utility that increased the core clock and I ran it for few years. At one point, the benefit of overclocking was being able to play facebook games on browser and other flash games that otherwise were too slow. Another big advance was playing 720pHD videos on a chip that was only able to play 480p.
dude, when the video first started I thought that CPU cooler was the computer
Know it's technically a HD 3410 built into a motherboard, so it being able to overclock that much makes sense.
Ahhh man, that was (almost) my first motherboard! I had a gigabyte 78lmt-usb3!! Rocking an FX 8120 🙃
Ah really nice. I love lowend overclocking. I had this integrated GPU myself, if i remember correctly. I had an AMD Phenom X2 550 on a DFI LANparty JR 790GX-M2RS, which had this GPU as far as I know. and also 128mb integrated video memory.
My last rig had that exact motherboard and I never knew about the whole mobo grafx could be tweaked O.o It has risen to play again as my daughter is building a second machine to act as a gateway server for her to host Minecraft servers on her main machine whilst using our laptop to do computery things on, now I know about the mobo grafx I can swipe back the 780ti to flog on ebay :D
Thank you brother I've learnt something new today
I had a motherboard that was VERY simillar to this one, with the same ATI Radeon graphics, only in my case I used an Athlon X4 640 and 4 gigs of RAM. I vividly remember playing Fortnite with this setup back in 2018.
I didn't know that motherboard graphic actually exist, until i watch this video, thank you for the video, i found it helpful
Back around 2008-2013 Gigabyte specifically were very in on it being the future since it performed worlds better than the intel igpu or the AMD APUs at the time. Around that time I had a Gigabyte board with a HD4000 (GA-MA785GM-US2H rev. 3.3). Wish I knew I could OC it though, I did a lot of windowed mode/low setting mayhem to get some games to be "playable", which back then was like 15fps for me (Source games like HL2 ran max settings minus AA with good frames at least)
If you look at the benchmarks between the 1090t and the Vishera 8350, there is literally not a lot between the two showing the Phenom punches well above its weight against a chip with two whole cores more, my old rig has the cooler melting 9590 which was a straight out 5ghz monster but the 1090t could easily keep up pretty much.
I have this MOBO, It's bad where games graphics quality is concerned but has proven useful when troubleshooting Graphics cards or just providing a display out whilst I wait for a new card to arrive/ be bought
This is one of those 'Shine on you crazy diamond' moments :D
That's... a lot better than i expected.
woah . thank you for this ! i have an igpu motherboard and i want to use it for something but i was scared its too weak , now i might use it for an emulation system or something .
Yeah give it a go :)
The 1090T was SUCH a good CPU back then. Loved it!
Overclocking the onboard Intel iGPU was possible. Not ever iGPU mind you but there is a tool called GMA Booster which can overclock the crap out of some of them for a substantial performance boost.
You should try to find one of the weird chinese x99 mobos with gtx graphics on them (I think up to a 1050ti). Apparently they're fun to fuck with if you can find an unlocked bios.
You should consider testing Runescape (both Old School and RS3) in the future on similarly specced machines, it would be interesting to see. I can't believe how well some of these games ran, it makes me wonder what was in my cheap old Dell machine from 2005 that ran Runescape at like 13 FPS.
Hey just a heads up, the Phenom II X6 1090T is a 125w TDP and the motherboard officially supports CPUs up to 95w, the 3+1 phase design is pretty weak but suitable for a budget motherboard from that time. Not a good combo in my opinion, it may damage the motherboard or the CPU. =)
Why does this video and many big youtubers SHOW under a search for the rare/beastly: RADEON WX 8200?
Love your Videos. Hello From New Zealand.
When i needed the iGPU from my old m5a78l-m/usb3 was a bad experience but at least i had something to output video
cranking hypertransport clock makes a decent improvement to igpu performance too
"overclocked the gravity" well said😂
I was surprised that the games started at all on this integrated graphic unit.
There actually are/was boards with a Radeon HD built in, boards with the AMD 880G chipset for example such as the MSI 880GM-E35 AM3 motherboard got a intergrated Radeon HD 4250
Yeah you can OC built-into the mobo GPUs but only if mobo itself is not a pure nothing, and if OC option is available - generally all these igpu/apu can OC very very high! Don't think I ever saw a 100% clock gain yet till today but they all can go to like 30-60% more on core clock which is insane
Love that Arctic cooling freezer extreme cooler 👍
Can't believe it didn't go up in smoke. Surely cannot run this everyday for regular use.
I have one ASUS AM3 motherboard, purchased in 2011. It has same ATI 3000 GPU, surprisingly its even compatible with Windows 10. The chipset do get heated up if you open too much tabs. My CPU is AMD FX 6300.
I used to play Mafia 2 on Radeon 3000 with the lowest settings possible. It was a pain in the arse, but I managed to finish the game.
Use to have the same cooler back in the day... wasn't long before scrapped it and bought a zalman cooler
This is hilarious. I can't believe you did worse on Skyrim than I do on my A8-6410 laptop, which is a way, way inferior CPU with a comparatively decent GPU. On CS:GO there's no way I'm hitting 20 FPS tho, I'm CPU bottlenecked all the way. I wish I could overclock my GPU even a tiny bit but these APUs are 100% locked.
GTAV - retro gaming....welcome back to the '90's :) Weirdly I kinda like the look. Wish they'd bring a new Carmageddon to the 2020's
You should definitely tinker with turning shadows completely off in GTA V and see how much a different it makes
It made me remember my day without discrete GPU back in 2008-2010, my Radeon HD 3200 along with Athlon II X2 4800+ and 2 GB DDR2 RAM work very hard (probably a bit abused ) to play GRID, Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead, and the notorious GTA 4 all at glorious 800x600 on my 17" CRT with probably less than 30 FPS (but 800x600 at the time on CRT I remember didnt look that bad like on video above). The motherboard itself hold through 2 GPU upgrade (Radeon HD 6850 and GTX 660) and 1 CPU upgrade (Phenom II X4 840) before finally the memory slot gave up in 2016 (what an 8yrs old of great computing) and push me into Skylake ecosystem (AMD is bad during that year) . I still wish it hold one more year so I can upgrade to another AMD chipset with Ryzen and enjoy probably another decade of AMD longevity (Im already switch back into AMD in 2020 with Ryzen 5 2600 though and wish it hold at least as long as my last AMD system)
Even a comment about licking GPUs is engagement and the content creator should be thankful for it.
G'day Random,
that was really cool as I didn't know you could OC the Graphics on these Mobos either, I have the 78LMT-USB3 Rev: 5.0 (Black PCB) for my FX6300 & this seems like some fun to be had at some stage but for when I do want to use it Gaming I think I'll stick to the Graphics supplied by my Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 🥰
That's a massive overclock! Nice for a retro gaming machine, perhaps!
6:28 "Ofc No" got me 😂
An 100% overclock is crazy, I wonder how high it will go with better cooling.