I bought a tiny case PC from a Facebook ad. I just wanted the case, they were asking $75. Went to buy it and discovered they were selling all their kids stuff that went off to college and were just clearing out space. Got home with the new tiny case PC and discovered that the CPU was a I7 4790K, 32gb of Ram and a 2tb SSD. Ended up giving the parts to my dad. He had always kept me in up to date PCs when I was a kid, born in 85 so I grew up right in the PC Tech boom, and he had been retired for a few years at this point and wasn't able to afford to upgrade his old AF pc. I love getting more than you expect, usually.
Seeing the RX 460 here brought back some good memories; if you happen to remember, wayyyyy back when you had around 5k-10k subscribers, you made a video reviewing the at-the-time new RX 460 and recommended it as a great budget card (this was before the 1050 had even released!). That video is what finally convinced me to buy one - my first ever discrete GPU - and I've been in love with all kinds of hardware ever since. Today that same RX 460 sits in a little budget build that I have lying around collecting dust, and in my main PC I'm running an RX 5700. I still religiously enjoying watching all of your videos. It's great to see that no matter how much times change, you're still making the same wonderful content you made back then. Thanks for providing me & countless others with tons of entertainment all throughout the years!
I find these cash converters really interesting, as sometimes you can just end up strike gold like this. Then again though, this is coming from a guy who has never actually been to one lmao. Great video as always.
as someone who has its mostly crap either stolen fishing gear items bought from poundland thats been marked up in price or old blown out car amps and smeg filled stereos
They are a really mixed bag. Imagine if you weren't RandomGamingHD and had the skills to take the pc apart (most people who buy an old prebuilt from CEX aren't going to have those skills or have spare motherboards for fx CPUs) then you would have just got a PC which switches off while gaming. At least they are pretty good on returns. Their testing of components before sale is pretty poor.
2:34 Seagate Pipeline HD 2 500GB, I can tell you right now that was originally part of a Sky or Virgin Media digital set top box! I've harvested various 500GB Pipeline's in the past from scrap set top boxes. Unsure of the 320GB Pipeline's origin, though as you say, a Samsung 128GB SSD is a nice bonus to have.
Yeah I have a few myself when upgrading the virginmedia boxes a few yrs ago stripped down for the drive but now u have give the old back now when upgrading
6:10 A lot of the time it's simply down to reseating the CPU.... I've fixed similar issues just by taking the CPU out and making sure all the contacts are clean.... it's surprisingly easy for a bit of thermal paste or dust etc to get on the pins and cause an issue or otherwise around the socket.
These CC computers are a nice change in pace to be honest. And i like how you actually show budget hardware. Sick of the dummies that think you need a brand new $3000 top of the line pc to play fortnite lol
Awesome deal! I have the exact MB (the Gigabyte) with an FX 8320E laying in a Drawer. Used it until last year. Works still fine, but clearly is a bottleneck with more modern GPUs/games. Also, the slow ram (had 16GB Dualchannel 1333) really does not help in modern Games. I always had "problems" (i feel unrelaxed if the PC is not cooled down a lot. Just a personal preference) with the VRMs and the Northbridge (northbridges :') ). They got quite hot. In a really well cooled Airflowcase. My 4690K was quite an Upgrade to the System and a few Weeks ago a friend gave me an "old" 8700 non k on an z370 Board because they wanted a new PC. The Diffenrence is unbelievable. The FX worked with an R9 280X. Rip. :'( After that it worked a bit with an almost unusable (for me) GTX 460 GS, then RX 6600. That was way too much to handle for the "8" Core. Hehe. Jealous on the Noctua! I recently went from different Fans and low line Be quiet to a full Arctic P12 pwm Lineup in the Case. It is inaudible now and even cooler. It is like magic. I do not know why i write all this uninteresting personal Hardwarestuff, i guess i just really like your calm way to talk about (semi old) PC Conponents. My first very own GPU was an awful Nvidia FX 5200 Ultra back in the Day :D at least the Ultra, haha. Just keep doing what you love to do the way you want to do. Thanks.
Yeah, the FX cpus are meant to use 1866 ram, so using 1333 is definitely begging for the lowest performance you can get. I have a 8350 on a Gigabyte 99FXA UD3 R5 with 32GB of Kingston Hyper 1866 and am still satisfied with the performance of the system. I don't play AAA games on it(it only has a R7 360 2GB gfx card), but it works fine playing old school stuff like MAME arcade games. It's my main system and runs 24/7. My temps are fine since I have a 212+ EVO cooler and an old Thermaltake case that has good airflow, which is fortunate since I have a lot of SSDs and HDDs which means lots of SATA power and data cables. Unfortunately that means that decent cable management is just not possible.
@@SirReptitious That 8320e is worth a shit ton on ebay considering what it is. Might want to sell it before people smarten up and realize the performance you get from them is only worth about $10. I think the only reason people still charge so much for 8320's and 8350's etc is that they're on the top of the OC leaderboards for highest core clock.
5200... Those were the cards installed in the PCs in one of the PC gaming clubs where I used to play as a teen. It was the second half of 2005 and these cards were definitely performing rather poorly, but I didn't know anything about PC parts yet. Next year I visited a place that had higher-end 5000-series cards, or maybe 6000, and then I started to fiddle with graphical settings more, appreciating the proper frame rates and lack of stutter. Still, I had great fun playing through games like Half-Life 2, Max Payne 2, Half-Life (yup, finished it after HL2), Serious Sam: The Second Encounter, played through the early parts of Serious Sam 2, some Vice City for some nostalgia (as I had played it in 2003), which inspired me to play through all of it in that place, but ended up doing it somewhere else... Gaming actually saved me when I was in a very dark place mentally.
@@twizz420 I know that Random said in a previous vid about FX cpus that they were overpriced on ebay compared to quad core ryzens that blow FX away. But I have no intention of selling my 8350 system, even after I eventually build a Ryzen system. It's just too useful to me. I'll probably make it into a NAS/media server/retro game machine.
I agree that you got a good deal for $120. I like the case; it reminds me of the better days when functionality was put above childish trinkets like RGB.
Most decent, worth your money computer cases don't come built in with RGB, and if they do, it's usually the fans themselves that have them integrated. That alone is better than not coming with them at all because even if you don't plan to use them, those who do won't have to buy more fans. I dunno, bashing RGB as such a childish feature of PCs seems like you're upset at the wrong thing
bought a PC from cash converters a few months ago to sell on, they aren't great with their pricing so you can usually get some bargains but other items are way over priced, same with cex but less bargains there
That looked like a really nice build - and I can see that the build would have worked really nicely back in its hayday. Personally, I wouldn't go with a 2GB card right now either - a bit like how my tower PC has an i5-4460, 16GB RAM and a 2GB GTX 960. The 4GB version would work better nowadays. I also like the case - traditional cases like that with a DVD drive slot at the front are always nice to see, and I liked the screwless design as well. I didn't like the single channel memory, but I did like the 4 RAM slots of the motherboard and the 6 SATA slots - perfect for large capacity storage and 32GB RAM. :)
Damn, been gaming on that specific i5 and the gpu's little brother, gtx 950. Its still up and running and can run some modern AAAs with all low. A decent beast indeed back in the day.
2gb is sort of in a weird position to have, not needed for office, browsing and normal programs to use, but not enough for basically any gpu heavy programs or games.
My main PC has i7 2600s, 16GB RAM and RX460 4GB while my secondary PC has i7 4790, 16GB RAM and R9 270 2GB. The RX460 does struggle with Cyperpunk, Mafia Remastered (don't remember if that was the name), but the R9 270 runs Forza Horizon 5 perfectly fine at 1080p (low/medium). Can't compalin considering these PCs' age.
We want further tests with that FX 8320 with the latest entry level gpus. And of course you have to OC it to atleast 4.2Ghz but that UD3P board can handle 4.4Ghz
lol i had that mobo and it was junk bios was crap, only ever used half the installed ram no matter the capacity installed always stuttered too. still used it for like 4 years though so eh
@@firenado4295 i have a crappier mobo, a DS3P Rev. 1 that i'm still using with an fx 6300 @4.2Ghz, 1.32v(0.25v offset needs extreme LLC very stable) anything higher than 1.32v will burn the 4 pin cpu socket. 4.4Ghz is a decent OC for the FX with the UD3P.
@@firenado4295 yeah, tho my board doesn't have xmp but it can be adjusted manually both timings and frequency. I figure the UD3P has more or less similar bios with the DS3P. Gigabyte FX boards needs LLC adjustment to have a stable OC.
That power supply reminds me of a thing I was trying to do a few days ago; I was making a media machine got an old motherboard that was lying around chucked openelec on it and off it went but trying to find a power supply from a good brand under 400 watts is quiet tricky now! Still, would rather have a power supply that has more power than I need that I trust than have one that has what I need to get by from a brand that I don't trust.
@@danimayb Build quality is hard to discern unless you open PSU and have a knowledge in electrical engineering. So called "build quality" i.e. color of PSU and cables, weight etc ... could be really deceptive. Declared specs are for the most part best bet, unless you get some really sketchy or counterfeited PSU. But for noname PSUs around 500W , it is enough to check +12V currents.
@@aleksazunjic9672 There is plenty of information out there, In depth reviews, On numerous power supplies with the quality of electrical components used, The build quality, efficiency level and rail power delivery at low to max loads.. For people to mull over on making a choice. There's also a simple tier list you can follow... Then you can pick quality level vs your budget. You don't have buy the best, But at least you know what you end up buying is of good standard.
@@aleksazunjic9672 you can't always trust what's printed on there if it's bottom drawer garbage and you don't know what safety regulations they skirted, and how much they skimped on quality control. Besides if you ignore the minor rails and it turns out to be an upcycled atx 1.x supply you'd be crossloading it heavily leading to regulation faults and potentially ripple.
You struck gold with that NH-u12s, the current model is basically the same and indeed it retails for 60€. It's a great cooler and they've been supporting even older versions to this day so it will surely last you a long time.
Another good video! It’s possible that the motherboard was making contact with the metal case somewhere, causing it to short out and shut off. Remounting the board could have fixed that.
I've had a similar problem a few yrs ago with the cpu it was actually the thermal paste to old so cleaned and replaced with fresh and hey presto problem solved
100% this. My system had this problem I bought off a guy. Kicked the no name psu to the can and bought a reputable model from cooler master. Issue lessened but still present. Decide to clean the system and found the motherboard was not sitting right. Some screws were loose and some were tight. Rescrewed it and viola no problem for a year.
Well, FX-8300 (20, 50) and RX 460 would give you solid 30+ FPS in games like Witcher 3 on 1080p medium, even on later games released for PS4 (Sekiro, Jedi Forgotten Order ...) and such. This 500W actually has around 450W on +12V divided on two rails. TDP of 8320 is quite high (125W) but it would still hold. RX 460 is 75W . You could upgrade with more RAM and possibly something like 1050Ti . Don't go for RX 6400 since this is only PCIe 2.0 system.
@Ms Moon Boo Moved or not, it is irrelevant for FX discussion. I simply pointed out that in order to utilize OC abilities of that architecture, it was/is essential to cool northbridge.
That's not how rails work. When you have 2 "rails" of 12v with one major exception (Enhance, but that's expensive stuff, not this garbage) it's really one rail either with two OCP circuits or with just nothing at all and you aren't supposed to draw more from a given group of connectors under risk of fire - but you can't just add them up. Like if you have a 20A limit on one virtual rail and 20A on another then under no circumstances do they add up to 40A total - there should be a separate subtotal listed and it would be expected to be somewhere around 30A. Simply because there needs to be headroom built into designs, you can't calibrate OCP with better than like 12% precision, and it's usually much more loose than that just in case, and you need a little headroom to pass the tests. Do you think it was ever tested, that being even uniformly loaded to 500W was a concern to them? It sure doesn't look like one. Though honestly you can power a lot of stuff from 250W on 12V that you might expect from such garbage tier stuff.
@@SianaGearz Nope. You have two rails +12V , in this case both have 19A . This give you theoretical 228 W on single rail , somewhat less in practice. This is NOT total power on +12V (otherwise this computer would never have worked, considering CPU + GPU) . But it usually means you would not be able to use 230W GPU with this PSU, since that GPU would usually get all the power from single rail. You could (most likely) use something like 200W GPU and 100W CPU , since they would not be on a single rail (load splitting) , although some headroom should be given. I personally would not run anything with more than 170W on this PSU , but combining two loads of lets say 170W and 130W should be completely fine - they use different rails. Note that some PSUs have total +12V power shown on a sticker, even when they have two rails. In that case you should go by that.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I wish you could just open it up and see that there just aren't two 12V rails there, i've seen plenty of these units, usually when the PSU had died and often took the rest of the PC with it. There's just NO WAY on a budget PSU that doesn't even bother with branding. Like you'll open it up and see a late 90s early 2000s design there barely adjusted for ATX 2.x, you'll see one lil transformer for 5VSB and a multi tap one for the main stuff with 12V, 5V and -12V rails coming out, 3.3V will be on a linear reg from 5V, and there will be one output choke, you can follow the traces and see there's just one 12V, and a wimply transformer which really isn't a 500W one, like you open something proper, 500W has some CHONK to it. You also will likely find the PFC spared and whatnot. How you take a PSU without A SINGLE certification marking, without any branding or OEM marking, no E-number or anything, the sticker figures at face value is just beyond me, you can't trust them. If it was a Great Wall or Huntkey or something, fine, if it was fresh out of the factory (after 3 years of use, the rating doesn't apply very well either), but there's nothing on this at all.
If that was ‘Cash Converters’ here in Australia 🇦🇺….. it would’ve been priced equivalent at £299 😖🤯 as they overprice their electronics and jewellery here and sometimes undervalue their homeware etc. great video my friend 🤯🤩😇. Cheers 🍻
long time viewer. love your channel ❤💚 you gave me the confidence to build a pc. when i first started i though there was no way i could afford a pc. after seeing your videos i started small and worked my way up. I'm building a PC now with a Ryzen 7 5700g x570 motherboard and a RTX 3070 32 gb ddr4. come along way from the first budget pc i first built with your knowledge. thx
Honestly, I'm rather impressed with this build's performance these days! I'm watching this on my living room media PC with an FX-8350 (which used to be my main gaming PC from 2012 to 2019).
Nice rig! money well spent when you get more than you bargained for! when I get systems like this, I'll tear them down, clean them all up put them back together and do whatever upgrades are needed... I normally will just put in a 2GB GPU as for movies and basic games, this works fine. personally, that system is a keeper as I would take it and save it as a emergency backup to my main system... if that were to ever fail... Congrats on your purchase, may you get good use out of it!
in my budget build im running a 550w corsair psu that i got for $25 on ebay, and ive had it for over 7 months now with zero issues my entire rig was built from ebay parts, and it goes to show that, if you're careful, you can find some diamond-in-the-rough kinds of deals. still hurting over the $300 i shilled out for a gtx 1070 back in february though.
Perhaps a Bios update for the motherboard? I can see that the GA-970A-UD3P Rev 2.0 is on the first version of the BIOS FA, the last version is FC which was released in 2nd of March 2016. In my experience and knowledge people tend to not update the BIOS because they have no issues with it but some like yours may be solved with a BIOS update. Great video as always and cheers.
You can dual fan those Noccy coolers, bit more noise but you pull through so much cooling air to that fan at the back you will have superior cooling on most CPU's. I picked up a MasterAir G100M last week, tenner delivered and brand new and full fruity RGB on a flower or Zalman type cooler array built around one thick as yer thumb single monster heatpipe at the core of it. Going to see how that goes, I have also in post coming the AM4 kit for my Coolermaster V8 MK1, she will shine again :D
LOVE buying PCs like this. My BEST score so far has been an i7=3930k / Asus Maximus Extreme X79 board and 32gb of RAM + a Cosmos II case for $100. Rots in my attic now, but I couldn't resist.
Good find, these Cash Converter experience vids are really good. With the good motherboard and cooler you got you could overclock that FX to a reasonable (for an FX) speed. Put a gtx 970 or 980 in it and you've got a good budget 1080p (once a 2nd stick of ram is added and the PSU replaced. So you just resell these PCs ? Would be good to see what you'd do to improve the sale.
I'd say the PSU was kept before the sale. And the shut down would likely be the CPU or ram making a bad connection. I took a syst apart and rebuilt it to find it not working for no reason. I set the hardware aside, but went back and found a single pin was not aligned, two seconds later up and running as it should. It's a shame some of these older GPUs don't cope so well and we have to look at 4gb. Unless we're gaming retro. It was good deal considering the prices of the fx8000 and motherboard are often a lot more than the total system price. Is the 480 a refresh of the 8750/60??
You mean the RX460 vs the HD8760? Probably not a refresh. The RX460 had twice as many transistors as the HD8760. The HD8760 was the GCN 1.0 architecture on the TSMC 28nm process node, while the RX460 was the GCN 4.0 architecture on the Globalfoundries 14nm process node. The RX560 was a refresh of the RX460 though. Both GCN 4.0 on the Globalfoundries 14nm process node. The exact same GPU with a different name. And there are many more examples in AMD's history.
that's a nice case for a DIY home nas box. Hard to find cases these days with 4 3.5" hdd bays. Most of seen available in Canada have only 2 3.5" hdd bays in them. I have a nas project on hold, till I can find an atx case with 4 3.5" bays.
There is a Del T1700 Workstation with an E3-1240 V3 (4c8t, 3.8Ghz boost), 16GB RAM, 240G SSD, 1TB HDD, Firepro V4900 1GB for $129USD on Newegg in the US. I was looking for an old office PC to make a Plex Server, found this great deal, figured I'd post about it to let people know. I ordered one for myself, I'll edit the post if anything goes wrong.
The FX-8320 was my first Desktop based system in 2015, Served me well until 2019, Id pair it with a RX 570/580 with 16gb DDR3, and Windows on the 128gb SSD and its a system not to be knocked, (baring mind replacing the PSU)
yeah I had a FX-8300 from about 2016/17 with initially a 1050ti this later had some additions added like a 256gb SSD, RX5804gb and upgrade to a FX-8350 (it came free with a cooler so had to get it). Then in 2019 upgrade to a Zen2 and swapped over the cooler, SSD , 1tbHD and RX 580 but stupidly left in the crap PSU this eventually killed my CPU. I reverted to the trusty FX 8350 until I could afford a Zen 3 5600 and a RX 6600xt. The dodgy PSU is no longer in use and my FX is rocking a CX600M and the Zen 3 is rocking a CX650F RGB (white)
I was thinking the shut downs were due to overheating VRMs on the motherboard but you’re probably right about it being a wire. I’ve also fixed similar problems by simply disassembling and reassembling my rigs in the past. Computers are fickle things sometimes.
There's a lot of 970 motherboards that use a 4+2 phase VRM, which is completely insufficient for properly running FX-8xxx CPUs. I thought at first that might be the problem, but that motherboard uses an 8+2 so the issue is likely something else.
the shutdowns where from the cpu over heating, the official max temp is like 60 but cuts the system off at around 80, and so taking apart and putting it back together probably seated the cooler better
2:31 I have the exact same samsung ssd, pulled it out of an HP Prodesk mini system. I think it has a DRAM cache, it performs better than a Kingston A400 in Crystaldiskmark, it has higher read and writes and faster 4k seq speeds.
Just managed to get hold of a i7 2600K/ 8GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM with a gigabyte motherboard for £120 from a classified ad. I am using those parts to teach my son to build his first PC!
I ran an FX-8000 series chip in my main build for a long time, paired with a GTX 960. I played a ton of The Witcher 3 on it. If I hadn't already used it to build my niece's PC, it would make a great TrueNAS box.
Anytime you have a metal on metal contact that isn't bonded with solder, It's always worth removing and reseating. I don't know how many old boards I've had issues with chip creep and just plain old oxidation on.
Hey rginhd, Would you be interested in a side of the road edition transparent pc with 12 cores and 32gb of ram? I got it and found there were 2 amd optagon CPUs and a firehazard 300w PSU all neatly installed in one of those basket containers. I am slightly frightened by the cut power supply extender cables so I haven't attempted to turn it on. Cheers
The "oem" 2 GB RX 460 is a good used budget gamer card right now. The fact that you bought a PC for 100 quid that could actually play modern games at a playable rate is what is surprising.
I think I would love to see a trade up type series where you start off with a dirt cheap pc and try and sell it to build another pc and so on and so forth until you get to a high end pc
I remember I actually bought an FX 6300 for a secondary PC I’d built circa 2014 and threw in my old Radeon HD 6870 (or 6780?). Gamed decently enough for 2014. The thing is still in that configuration in my storage unit. Also as we all know the FX 6300 sucked but I was looking to put something together cheaply and one of those only cost $99 at the time.
Those screw less grips often won't actually clip into place with graphics cards, I've had the same problem with my last couple graphics cards in my old case
still running the fx8350 in my build paired with a sabertooth 990fx 2.0 motherboard, its outlasted everything else my ram, gpu and psu have all died over the years and needed replacing but the 8350 is just keeps battling on and handling anything i throw at it and its close to 10 years old now :D
weird i have the same case without the inwin logo stamped into the sidepanel, mine is from a company called nofan or somthing the logo on the fron is also a "nofan" logo?
I have one in a free PC from a friend on a TUF Sabertooth 990FX with a 16GB kit of HyperX Beast, 2GB EVGA "blower" GTX 670 and Corsair HX750W in an NZXT Phantom. I cleaned it up, put back an SSD to replace the removed HDD and upgraded the stock CPU cooler to an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro rev. 2 I had lying around.
I have the same PC setup (with an FX-8350 and 32GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 (6GB version)) as a second in a dual chassis (a ThermalTake W200) and for some reason, Forza Horizon 5 would not work for long, and kept crashing. Aparrently, it does not support the FX series CPU's. Something worth investigating? As for the primary PC I have, it is a Ryzen 9 3950X, 64GB RAM and an RTX 2060 SUPER. It's currently all m.2 SSD based as well.
Ive bought a couple of PCs from Cash Convertors and often you find you get extras but I did buy one which didn't arrive with the graphics card I expected and was a complete piece of junk. Why worry about the PSU on a £99 PC, it's probably run it for years and with a PCIE connector it indicates it's slightly better than the ultra budget ones.
Nice system for that price, you could even get more out of it with some cheap upgrades too. If all you play is older games or games that don't require much graphical power (moba games, visual novels and even WoW are not that intensive) then something like this would be ideal, cheap to buy and cheap to run.
I have a 650 Watt in the PC I game on most of the time atm. I ordered two Thermaltake "Toug" 750 Gold units as they were on sale for $70 each and had raved reviews. Whelp, one fried a board before it left the bench and the other fried a GPU. I was livid. I couldn't return the to Amazon either bc I let them sit for 6 months or so before taking one out to use it. I bought an EVGA something-or-other 850 Watt Platinum for when the new GPUs come out, expecting to buy an x800 or xx80 class GPU for $110 just to find out that Nvidia's power looks like it will be off the chain, and their 70 class card is going to skimp on RAM, most likely making 1440p with Raytracing a terrible experience. You'd have to use DLSS or Image scaling to keep RAM usage under control in the games I play, which looks like ass at 1440p, so my card of choice is going to use too much juice if it spikes and my _"eh, maybe I could step down to get the extra RT performance over AMD"_ idea got tossed out the window when the 10GB on a 162 bit BUS came out. Or 160, I forget, but wtv ity is, it is too small. I was excited about this GPU launch, with well over $1k put aside that's I keep tossing a $5 here, a $20 there on top of, and even if I spent the entire $1800 USD, $150-$200 would have to go to a PSU, and another $500-$700 would have to go towards a 220 outlet; and I have a friend who will put it in for me so I don't have to pay an electrician. That is absolutely absurd. A 5800X with 1 2GB m.2, a 1TB SATA (Both Samsung Evos), another 2 TB SATA Eo I am probably going to add, 32GB of RAM and an xx80 class card should not cost almost $2k when all is said and done decause it's spikes are rumored to be over 3x it's 420 Watt rating. That is utter trash. They *HAVE* to get that shit under 400 watts or they are screwed sales-wise. Either that or they are going to get hit with a crapload of lawsuits when older houses start catching fire because the system draw hit 1600+ watts and took too long to trip the breakers/fuse box. Of course maybe AMD ends up having great Raytracing and it's a moot point. I'm almost torn now. ei If I can't get what I want, but need more than the 5700 I have in my gaming PC, should I scale back to AMD's 12GB card, buy Nvidia's (if they have one and it is under 400 watts), then just sell it a year into the following gen's lifecycle as I'm 99% sure they'll figure something out for the power fraw by then, or should I just get the best AMD card I can and hold it for 3 or 4 years, hoping the RT ends upo being better than their _Tres' Effects_ for hair? Kinda silly, but with the price of GPU's it ends up being a relatively tough decision.
This does make me wonder if this is one of those computers that will just randomly shut down without any obvious reason. I run into this problem with Dell Optiplex models. It didn't matter what I replaced--as long as I used Dell's parts, it would fail. It sucked spending so much to try to get my dad a working computer. If it isn't like that, and the shutdowns were just a fluke, this seems like a rather good buy, even just going by what was on paper (and not the extras) It's at the price I've seen for computers without dedicated graphics cards.
Interesting, and somewhat shared, experiences here. I'm currently in process of upgrading my daughter's gaming PC (she's 15, no, it's not killer, she plays like Minecraft and Terraria) - and we've gone from FX-6100 to FX-8350 (and now to I5-6500, well, soon at least). The 8000 series FX chips do handle modern GPUs OK - I have that system running an RX5500xt currently, and it does so with some grace. The stutters and dips can be offputting - which is why I'm trying to modernize a bit for her (she hates asking me to troubleshoot, probably because BIOS is boring, or something). I really like FX series chips, despite the controversy and general dishonesty in actual core performance. The 8350, in multi-core performance, really does still hold up - maybe not as well as my Xeon Mac Pro gaming machine (CRT gaming, baby!) but it still does OK. Nice video. Like the switch with the rapid-fire gaming benchmarks - seems like I saw more in less time. Good job man!
Agreed, I'm still daily driving an FX-8320, and while it's showing its age it still is able to pull its weight with my RX 480 4GB. And it's somewhat amusing to me that despite the significant performance advantages Intel's 3rd gen had at launch, the FX series sometimes outperforms it with the newer, core-optimized games. Certainly looking for an upgrade eventually, but for now my 8320 is still holding strong.
I have XFX RX460 Slim with 4GB GDDR5 as reserve for Asus RX580 8GB which I bought one year later. Sometimes I get feeling that RX460 performed better then its stronger brother (especially when I play CoD WW2), currently I have FX8320e, 4*4GB DDR3 1866MHz G Skill Sniper, Asus M5A78L-M/USB3, 12OGB Toshiba A100 SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 320TB WD Black, both 2.5" and 550W LC Power Silent.
Glad the problem went away after you put it together again. But what if someone who isn't PC savy would of bought it? Would suck for them once the problem started
You should always download and run stress test software on both the GPU and CPU before re-selling these as that will give you a much better picture of health than just playing games for a while.
3:10 noo please never throw out a psu to the bin! It has ton of useful parts in it! Just listen bro, my 5yrs psu went to a silicone heaven (blown cap). So i desoldered everything out and i auctioned those components, got 550CZK for them - not bad at all.
Can I ask, do you have a mother pc thats like at least 8 cores 10th gen intel/AMD equivalent or higher with a 30 series card/AMD equivalent? Or are you strictly budget always?
Today I learned 'Standard delivery' in the UK means packaging your product to look like a huge block of drugs.
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probably to protect it from the rain
You should see how we package the drugs!
@@jonnyc429 😂😂
Yeah imagine pulling that out of the boot of your car. Proper suspicious… 👀
I bought a tiny case PC from a Facebook ad. I just wanted the case, they were asking $75. Went to buy it and discovered they were selling all their kids stuff that went off to college and were just clearing out space. Got home with the new tiny case PC and discovered that the CPU was a I7 4790K, 32gb of Ram and a 2tb SSD.
Ended up giving the parts to my dad. He had always kept me in up to date PCs when I was a kid, born in 85 so I grew up right in the PC Tech boom, and he had been retired for a few years at this point and wasn't able to afford to upgrade his old AF pc.
I love getting more than you expect, usually.
My man must have had a beast of a rig ... for the time anyway.
Seeing the RX 460 here brought back some good memories; if you happen to remember, wayyyyy back when you had around 5k-10k subscribers, you made a video reviewing the at-the-time new RX 460 and recommended it as a great budget card (this was before the 1050 had even released!). That video is what finally convinced me to buy one - my first ever discrete GPU - and I've been in love with all kinds of hardware ever since.
Today that same RX 460 sits in a little budget build that I have lying around collecting dust, and in my main PC I'm running an RX 5700. I still religiously enjoying watching all of your videos. It's great to see that no matter how much times change, you're still making the same wonderful content you made back then. Thanks for providing me & countless others with tons of entertainment all throughout the years!
Almost makes me want to dig out my old FX 96 series and give it another shot.
Good find for the money.
Have a great day.
Yeah go for it!
I find these cash converters really interesting, as sometimes you can just end up strike gold like this. Then again though, this is coming from a guy who has never actually been to one lmao. Great video as always.
It's a pawn shop.
gold? this is nothing special lol
amd fx is not gold
as someone who has its mostly crap either stolen fishing gear items bought from poundland thats been marked up in price or old blown out car amps and smeg filled stereos
They are a really mixed bag. Imagine if you weren't RandomGamingHD and had the skills to take the pc apart (most people who buy an old prebuilt from CEX aren't going to have those skills or have spare motherboards for fx CPUs) then you would have just got a PC which switches off while gaming. At least they are pretty good on returns. Their testing of components before sale is pretty poor.
2:34 Seagate Pipeline HD 2 500GB, I can tell you right now that was originally part of a Sky or Virgin Media digital set top box! I've harvested various 500GB Pipeline's in the past from scrap set top boxes.
Unsure of the 320GB Pipeline's origin, though as you say, a Samsung 128GB SSD is a nice bonus to have.
Some older skyboxes did have smaller than 500g, I’ve pulled a few of those in the past
Yeah I have a few myself when upgrading the virginmedia boxes a few yrs ago stripped down for the drive but now u have give the old back now when upgrading
I used to love harvesting HDD's from TV recorders/tuners lol.
I’ve still got my 2tb out of a skybox as my games drive, been running well for a good few years now
I got a 360gb out of my old Skyplus box.
6:10 A lot of the time it's simply down to reseating the CPU.... I've fixed similar issues just by taking the CPU out and making sure all the contacts are clean.... it's surprisingly easy for a bit of thermal paste or dust etc to get on the pins and cause an issue or otherwise around the socket.
Cashies at it again with the good deals
I use them all the time in Spain. More often than not they will have great tech deals or mislabeled products heavily underpriced
They have twice cancelled my order for an all in one , awful service
@@infernus6278 do u use them to make money? Or to use the pc’s?
@@kanaalnaam999 for personal use, but it can be resold definitely
WELL GO ON TO CASHIES MATE, WHERE YOU WILL FIND YOUR DREAMS
These CC computers are a nice change in pace to be honest. And i like how you actually show budget hardware. Sick of the dummies that think you need a brand new $3000 top of the line pc to play fortnite lol
Awesome deal!
I have the exact MB (the Gigabyte) with an FX 8320E laying in a Drawer. Used it until last year. Works still fine, but clearly is a bottleneck with more modern GPUs/games. Also, the slow ram (had 16GB Dualchannel 1333) really does not help in modern Games. I always had "problems" (i feel unrelaxed if the PC is not cooled down a lot. Just a personal preference) with the VRMs and the Northbridge (northbridges :') ). They got quite hot. In a really well cooled Airflowcase.
My 4690K was quite an Upgrade to the System and a few Weeks ago a friend gave me an "old" 8700 non k on an z370 Board because they wanted a new PC. The Diffenrence is unbelievable.
The FX worked with an R9 280X. Rip. :'(
After that it worked a bit with an almost unusable (for me) GTX 460 GS, then RX 6600. That was way too much to handle for the "8" Core. Hehe.
Jealous on the Noctua! I recently went from different Fans and low line Be quiet to a full Arctic P12 pwm Lineup in the Case. It is inaudible now and even cooler. It is like magic.
I do not know why i write all this uninteresting personal Hardwarestuff, i guess i just really like your calm way to talk about (semi old) PC Conponents. My first very own GPU was an awful Nvidia FX 5200 Ultra back in the Day :D at least the Ultra, haha.
Just keep doing what you love to do the way you want to do. Thanks.
Yeah, the FX cpus are meant to use 1866 ram, so using 1333 is definitely begging for the lowest performance you can get. I have a 8350 on a Gigabyte 99FXA UD3 R5 with 32GB of Kingston Hyper 1866 and am still satisfied with the performance of the system. I don't play AAA games on it(it only has a R7 360 2GB gfx card), but it works fine playing old school stuff like MAME arcade games. It's my main system and runs 24/7. My temps are fine since I have a 212+ EVO cooler and an old Thermaltake case that has good airflow, which is fortunate since I have a lot of SSDs and HDDs which means lots of SATA power and data cables. Unfortunately that means that decent cable management is just not possible.
@@SirReptitious That 8320e is worth a shit ton on ebay considering what it is. Might want to sell it before people smarten up and realize the performance you get from them is only worth about $10.
I think the only reason people still charge so much for 8320's and 8350's etc is that they're on the top of the OC leaderboards for highest core clock.
5200... Those were the cards installed in the PCs in one of the PC gaming clubs where I used to play as a teen. It was the second half of 2005 and these cards were definitely performing rather poorly, but I didn't know anything about PC parts yet. Next year I visited a place that had higher-end 5000-series cards, or maybe 6000, and then I started to fiddle with graphical settings more, appreciating the proper frame rates and lack of stutter. Still, I had great fun playing through games like Half-Life 2, Max Payne 2, Half-Life (yup, finished it after HL2), Serious Sam: The Second Encounter, played through the early parts of Serious Sam 2, some Vice City for some nostalgia (as I had played it in 2003), which inspired me to play through all of it in that place, but ended up doing it somewhere else... Gaming actually saved me when I was in a very dark place mentally.
@@twizz420 I know that Random said in a previous vid about FX cpus that they were overpriced on ebay compared to quad core ryzens that blow FX away. But I have no intention of selling my 8350 system, even after I eventually build a Ryzen system. It's just too useful to me. I'll probably make it into a NAS/media server/retro game machine.
I agree that you got a good deal for $120. I like the case; it reminds me of the better days when functionality was put above childish trinkets like RGB.
Most decent, worth your money computer cases don't come built in with RGB, and if they do, it's usually the fans themselves that have them integrated. That alone is better than not coming with them at all because even if you don't plan to use them, those who do won't have to buy more fans. I dunno, bashing RGB as such a childish feature of PCs seems like you're upset at the wrong thing
bought a PC from cash converters a few months ago to sell on, they aren't great with their pricing so you can usually get some bargains but other items are way over priced, same with cex but less bargains there
That looked like a really nice build - and I can see that the build would have worked really nicely back in its hayday. Personally, I wouldn't go with a 2GB card right now either - a bit like how my tower PC has an i5-4460, 16GB RAM and a 2GB GTX 960. The 4GB version would work better nowadays.
I also like the case - traditional cases like that with a DVD drive slot at the front are always nice to see, and I liked the screwless design as well. I didn't like the single channel memory, but I did like the 4 RAM slots of the motherboard and the 6 SATA slots - perfect for large capacity storage and 32GB RAM. :)
Damn, been gaming on that specific i5 and the gpu's little brother, gtx 950. Its still up and running and can run some modern AAAs with all low. A decent beast indeed back in the day.
2gb is sort of in a weird position to have, not needed for office, browsing and normal programs to use, but not enough for basically any gpu heavy programs or games.
I have a pretty similar setup: Core i5-4590, 2 GB GT 1030 and 16 GB RAM. It works great on 1080P on older games.
@@DaveOJ thats a decent system, if you eveb want to play newer games and/or on higher graphical settings you just need to upgrade the gpu.
My main PC has i7 2600s, 16GB RAM and RX460 4GB while my secondary PC has i7 4790, 16GB RAM and R9 270 2GB. The RX460 does struggle with Cyperpunk, Mafia Remastered (don't remember if that was the name), but the R9 270 runs Forza Horizon 5 perfectly fine at 1080p (low/medium). Can't compalin considering these PCs' age.
never thought I'd get used to backyard pc dissasembly videos, but all that greenery and natural light really makes it quite pleasing.
We want further tests with that FX 8320 with the latest entry level gpus. And of course you have to OC it to atleast 4.2Ghz but that UD3P board can handle 4.4Ghz
Yeah I’ll give it another shot at gaming!
lol i had that mobo and it was junk bios was crap, only ever used half the installed ram no matter the capacity installed always stuttered too. still used it for like 4 years though so eh
@@firenado4295 i have a crappier mobo, a DS3P Rev. 1 that i'm still using with an fx 6300 @4.2Ghz, 1.32v(0.25v offset needs extreme LLC very stable) anything higher than 1.32v will burn the 4 pin cpu socket. 4.4Ghz is a decent OC for the FX with the UD3P.
@@trueheart5666 damn well nice to see that you managed to get some performance out of it, i couldnt even use xmp just boot looped
@@firenado4295 yeah, tho my board doesn't have xmp but it can be adjusted manually both timings and frequency. I figure the UD3P has more or less similar bios with the DS3P. Gigabyte FX boards needs LLC adjustment to have a stable OC.
That power supply reminds me of a thing I was trying to do a few days ago; I was making a media machine got an old motherboard that was lying around chucked openelec on it and off it went but trying to find a power supply from a good brand under 400 watts is quiet tricky now! Still, would rather have a power supply that has more power than I need that I trust than have one that has what I need to get by from a brand that I don't trust.
Don't look for brands, look for +12V current, multiply with said 12V and you will get real power spec.
@@aleksazunjic9672 It's about the build quality of a PSU, As well as it's capable power delivery.
@@danimayb Build quality is hard to discern unless you open PSU and have a knowledge in electrical engineering. So called "build quality" i.e. color of PSU and cables, weight etc ... could be really deceptive. Declared specs are for the most part best bet, unless you get some really sketchy or counterfeited PSU. But for noname PSUs around 500W , it is enough to check +12V currents.
@@aleksazunjic9672 There is plenty of information out there, In depth reviews, On numerous power supplies with the quality of electrical components used, The build quality, efficiency level and rail power delivery at low to max loads.. For people to mull over on making a choice. There's also a simple tier list you can follow... Then you can pick quality level vs your budget. You don't have buy the best, But at least you know what you end up buying is of good standard.
@@aleksazunjic9672 you can't always trust what's printed on there if it's bottom drawer garbage and you don't know what safety regulations they skirted, and how much they skimped on quality control. Besides if you ignore the minor rails and it turns out to be an upcycled atx 1.x supply you'd be crossloading it heavily leading to regulation faults and potentially ripple.
You struck gold with that NH-u12s, the current model is basically the same and indeed it retails for 60€.
It's a great cooler and they've been supporting even older versions to this day so it will surely last you a long time.
You're making me wish we had cashies in the US 😩
You do have Gamestop. Ok edit... you have some game based Pawn brokers but not many !
Ah don't you have goodwill?
We have it here is Aus but they are absolutely rip off and the only ones who gets a good deal here is cashies.
Another good video! It’s possible that the motherboard was making contact with the metal case somewhere, causing it to short out and shut off. Remounting the board could have fixed that.
I've had a similar problem a few yrs ago with the cpu it was actually the thermal paste to old so cleaned and replaced with fresh and hey presto problem solved
There are countless possibilities.
He said this shut off happened during attempt to game on the system. So that can't be the issue.
100% this.
My system had this problem I bought off a guy.
Kicked the no name psu to the can and bought a reputable model from cooler master.
Issue lessened but still present.
Decide to clean the system and found the motherboard was not sitting right.
Some screws were loose and some were tight.
Rescrewed it and viola no problem for a year.
Another possibility is dodgy ram modules or in compatible ram sticks this also have come across I've been fixing and upgrading pcs since 1999
Well, FX-8300 (20, 50) and RX 460 would give you solid 30+ FPS in games like Witcher 3 on 1080p medium, even on later games released for PS4 (Sekiro, Jedi Forgotten Order ...) and such. This 500W actually has around 450W on +12V divided on two rails. TDP of 8320 is quite high (125W) but it would still hold. RX 460 is 75W . You could upgrade with more RAM and possibly something like 1050Ti . Don't go for RX 6400 since this is only PCIe 2.0 system.
@Ms Moon Boo Don't know much about overclocking FX CPUs, but aren't you suppose to cool northbridge on MB to achieve 5 GHz ?
@Ms Moon Boo Moved or not, it is irrelevant for FX discussion. I simply pointed out that in order to utilize OC abilities of that architecture, it was/is essential to cool northbridge.
That's not how rails work. When you have 2 "rails" of 12v with one major exception (Enhance, but that's expensive stuff, not this garbage) it's really one rail either with two OCP circuits or with just nothing at all and you aren't supposed to draw more from a given group of connectors under risk of fire - but you can't just add them up. Like if you have a 20A limit on one virtual rail and 20A on another then under no circumstances do they add up to 40A total - there should be a separate subtotal listed and it would be expected to be somewhere around 30A. Simply because there needs to be headroom built into designs, you can't calibrate OCP with better than like 12% precision, and it's usually much more loose than that just in case, and you need a little headroom to pass the tests.
Do you think it was ever tested, that being even uniformly loaded to 500W was a concern to them? It sure doesn't look like one.
Though honestly you can power a lot of stuff from 250W on 12V that you might expect from such garbage tier stuff.
@@SianaGearz Nope. You have two rails +12V , in this case both have 19A . This give you theoretical 228 W on single rail , somewhat less in practice. This is NOT total power on +12V (otherwise this computer would never have worked, considering CPU + GPU) . But it usually means you would not be able to use 230W GPU with this PSU, since that GPU would usually get all the power from single rail. You could (most likely) use something like 200W GPU and 100W CPU , since they would not be on a single rail (load splitting) , although some headroom should be given. I personally would not run anything with more than 170W on this PSU , but combining two loads of lets say 170W and 130W should be completely fine - they use different rails. Note that some PSUs have total +12V power shown on a sticker, even when they have two rails. In that case you should go by that.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I wish you could just open it up and see that there just aren't two 12V rails there, i've seen plenty of these units, usually when the PSU had died and often took the rest of the PC with it. There's just NO WAY on a budget PSU that doesn't even bother with branding. Like you'll open it up and see a late 90s early 2000s design there barely adjusted for ATX 2.x, you'll see one lil transformer for 5VSB and a multi tap one for the main stuff with 12V, 5V and -12V rails coming out, 3.3V will be on a linear reg from 5V, and there will be one output choke, you can follow the traces and see there's just one 12V, and a wimply transformer which really isn't a 500W one, like you open something proper, 500W has some CHONK to it. You also will likely find the PFC spared and whatnot.
How you take a PSU without A SINGLE certification marking, without any branding or OEM marking, no E-number or anything, the sticker figures at face value is just beyond me, you can't trust them. If it was a Great Wall or Huntkey or something, fine, if it was fresh out of the factory (after 3 years of use, the rating doesn't apply very well either), but there's nothing on this at all.
If that was ‘Cash Converters’ here in Australia 🇦🇺….. it would’ve been priced equivalent at £299 😖🤯 as they overprice their electronics and jewellery here and sometimes undervalue their homeware etc. great video my friend 🤯🤩😇. Cheers 🍻
long time viewer. love your channel ❤💚 you gave me the confidence to build a pc. when i first started i though there was no way i could afford a pc. after seeing your videos i started small and worked my way up. I'm building a PC now with a Ryzen 7 5700g x570 motherboard and a RTX 3070 32 gb ddr4. come along way from the first budget pc i first built with your knowledge. thx
That's a great find for it's price!
Well i have to go to my local cash converters again , because of this video :D
Honestly, I'm rather impressed with this build's performance these days! I'm watching this on my living room media PC with an FX-8350 (which used to be my main gaming PC from 2012 to 2019).
I'm still maining 8350. According to a random online calculator my build is 42% CPU bound. 🥲
I loved the video and really enjoyed this. Keep it up! 💯
Nice rig! money well spent when you get more than you bargained for! when I get systems like this, I'll tear them down, clean them all up put them back together and do whatever upgrades are needed... I normally will just put in a 2GB GPU as for movies and basic games, this works fine. personally, that system is a keeper as I would take it and save it as a emergency backup to my main system... if that were to ever fail... Congrats on your purchase, may you get good use out of it!
in my budget build im running a 550w corsair psu that i got for $25 on ebay, and ive had it for over 7 months now with zero issues
my entire rig was built from ebay parts, and it goes to show that, if you're careful, you can find some diamond-in-the-rough kinds of deals. still hurting over the $300 i shilled out for a gtx 1070 back in february though.
Even your hard drive SSD?
Perhaps a Bios update for the motherboard? I can see that the GA-970A-UD3P Rev 2.0 is on the first version of the BIOS FA, the last version is FC which was released in 2nd of March 2016. In my experience and knowledge people tend to not update the BIOS because they have no issues with it but some like yours may be solved with a BIOS update.
Great video as always and cheers.
Noctua cooler new costs almost as much as the PC.
I found one in a neighbor's recycle bin last week. Perfectly good parts. Even had an ASUS Mobo in it.
Great find
You can dual fan those Noccy coolers, bit more noise but you pull through so much cooling air to that fan at the back you will have superior cooling on most CPU's. I picked up a MasterAir G100M last week, tenner delivered and brand new and full fruity RGB on a flower or Zalman type cooler array built around one thick as yer thumb single monster heatpipe at the core of it. Going to see how that goes, I have also in post coming the AM4 kit for my Coolermaster V8 MK1, she will shine again :D
Insane buy man, and the shipping conditions blew my mind.
LOVE buying PCs like this.
My BEST score so far has been
an i7=3930k / Asus Maximus Extreme X79 board and 32gb of RAM + a Cosmos II case for $100.
Rots in my attic now, but I couldn't resist.
honestly that case looks dope
test the fx cpu with an rtx 3050 please...i am really curious what that fx can do in 2022
Good find, these Cash Converter experience vids are really good. With the good motherboard and cooler you got you could overclock that FX to a reasonable (for an FX) speed. Put a gtx 970 or 980 in it and you've got a good budget 1080p (once a 2nd stick of ram is added and the PSU replaced.
So you just resell these PCs ? Would be good to see what you'd do to improve the sale.
Can confirm, I work in IT and so many times an issue someone is having will fix itself without me having to do anything lol
Best connect or visit user and make out it required something complex lol
Saw in the video that BCLK was set 200MHz, seems pretty high to me, or is it normal for FX systems? Maybe that's the issue of sudden power loss.
I'd say the PSU was kept before the sale.
And the shut down would likely be the CPU or ram making a bad connection.
I took a syst apart and rebuilt it to find it not working for no reason. I set the hardware aside, but went back and found a single pin was not aligned, two seconds later up and running as it should.
It's a shame some of these older GPUs don't cope so well and we have to look at 4gb.
Unless we're gaming retro.
It was good deal considering the prices of the fx8000 and motherboard are often a lot more than the total system price.
Is the 480 a refresh of the 8750/60??
You mean the RX460 vs the HD8760? Probably not a refresh. The RX460 had twice as many transistors as the HD8760. The HD8760 was the GCN 1.0 architecture on the TSMC 28nm process node, while the RX460 was the GCN 4.0 architecture on the Globalfoundries 14nm process node.
The RX560 was a refresh of the RX460 though. Both GCN 4.0 on the Globalfoundries 14nm process node. The exact same GPU with a different name. And there are many more examples in AMD's history.
that's a nice case for a DIY home nas box. Hard to find cases these days with 4 3.5" hdd bays. Most of seen available in Canada have only 2 3.5" hdd bays in them. I have a nas project on hold, till I can find an atx case with 4 3.5" bays.
That luminous green parts in the case made it 100% better looking to my eyes. I miss those PC cases.
Have that cooler on an old 4790k delided... doesnt go up 50ºc while playing... great cooler!
There is a Del T1700 Workstation with an E3-1240 V3 (4c8t, 3.8Ghz boost), 16GB RAM, 240G SSD, 1TB HDD, Firepro V4900 1GB for $129USD on Newegg in the US.
I was looking for an old office PC to make a Plex Server, found this great deal, figured I'd post about it to let people know. I ordered one for myself, I'll edit the post if anything goes wrong.
Top tip for old power supplies if you are into wild camping, take out the innards and use the rest as a bush box ;)
The FX-8320 was my first Desktop based system in 2015, Served me well until 2019, Id pair it with a RX 570/580 with 16gb DDR3, and Windows on the 128gb SSD and its a system not to be knocked, (baring mind replacing the PSU)
yeah I had a FX-8300 from about 2016/17 with initially a 1050ti this later had some additions added like a 256gb SSD, RX5804gb and upgrade to a FX-8350 (it came free with a cooler so had to get it). Then in 2019 upgrade to a Zen2 and swapped over the cooler, SSD , 1tbHD and RX 580 but stupidly left in the crap PSU this eventually killed my CPU. I reverted to the trusty FX 8350 until I could afford a Zen 3 5600 and a RX 6600xt.
The dodgy PSU is no longer in use and my FX is rocking a CX600M and the Zen 3 is rocking a CX650F RGB (white)
I was thinking the shut downs were due to overheating VRMs on the motherboard but you’re probably right about it being a wire. I’ve also fixed similar problems by simply disassembling and reassembling my rigs in the past. Computers are fickle things sometimes.
There's a lot of 970 motherboards that use a 4+2 phase VRM, which is completely insufficient for properly running FX-8xxx CPUs. I thought at first that might be the problem, but that motherboard uses an 8+2 so the issue is likely something else.
the shutdowns where from the cpu over heating, the official max temp is like 60 but cuts the system off at around 80, and so taking apart and putting it back together probably seated the cooler better
the temp reading could be the gap to tj max. on my old fx system, the amd software only displayed tj max delta
2:31 I have the exact same samsung ssd, pulled it out of an HP Prodesk mini system.
I think it has a DRAM cache, it performs better than a Kingston A400 in Crystaldiskmark, it has higher read and writes and faster 4k seq speeds.
Just managed to get hold of a i7 2600K/ 8GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM with a gigabyte motherboard for £120 from a classified ad. I am using those parts to teach my son to build his first PC!
I ran an FX-8000 series chip in my main build for a long time, paired with a GTX 960. I played a ton of The Witcher 3 on it. If I hadn't already used it to build my niece's PC, it would make a great TrueNAS box.
Anytime you have a metal on metal contact that isn't bonded with solder, It's always worth removing and reseating. I don't know how many old boards I've had issues with chip creep and just plain old oxidation on.
Hey rginhd,
Would you be interested in a side of the road edition transparent pc with 12 cores and 32gb of ram? I got it and found there were 2 amd optagon CPUs and a firehazard 300w PSU all neatly installed in one of those basket containers. I am slightly frightened by the cut power supply extender cables so I haven't attempted to turn it on. Cheers
My old FX was an 8320. Once overclock, it ran just as fine as the more expensive variants.
The "oem" 2 GB RX 460 is a good used budget gamer card right now. The fact that you bought a PC for 100 quid that could actually play modern games at a playable rate is what is surprising.
Pretty solid pc... Better than my pc currently
I think I would love to see a trade up type series where you start off with a dirt cheap pc and try and sell it to build another pc and so on and so forth until you get to a high end pc
I almost bought this PC just for the Noctua cooler alone. Glad to see it's gone to good use!
U couldn't have bought "this pc" even the guy didn't know it had a noctua cooler
@@thealien_ali3382 I saw it listed on the Cash Converters website and it was clearly a Noctua cooler in the pictures...
@@mikeycrackson I only mentioned the clearly visible cooler - nothing else.
That case still looks amazing
I remember I actually bought an FX 6300 for a secondary PC I’d built circa 2014 and threw in my old Radeon HD 6870 (or 6780?). Gamed decently enough for 2014. The thing is still in that configuration in my storage unit.
Also as we all know the FX 6300 sucked but I was looking to put something together cheaply and one of those only cost $99 at the time.
Those screw less grips often won't actually clip into place with graphics cards, I've had the same problem with my last couple graphics cards in my old case
Back in late 2016, the now defunct Fry's Electronics in the USA was selling budget systems with an FX-6300 and an RX 460.
The 120 usd pc that keeps on giving ;)
still running the fx8350 in my build paired with a sabertooth 990fx 2.0 motherboard, its outlasted everything else my ram, gpu and psu have all died over the years and needed replacing but the 8350 is just keeps battling on and handling anything i throw at it and its close to 10 years old now :D
Cashies is the cornerstone of 2nd hand tech TH-cam
weird i have the same case without the inwin logo stamped into the sidepanel, mine is from a company called nofan or somthing the logo on the fron is also a "nofan" logo?
Cool another fx 8320 I don't see many of these nowadays. A part from my system lol.
I have one in a free PC from a friend on a TUF Sabertooth 990FX with a 16GB kit of HyperX Beast, 2GB EVGA "blower" GTX 670 and Corsair HX750W in an NZXT Phantom. I cleaned it up, put back an SSD to replace the removed HDD and upgraded the stock CPU cooler to an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro rev. 2 I had lying around.
With 16 GB RAM and a slightly better (ie. at least 4GB) GPU this would make a decent 30 FPS-locked budget machine even for a lot of newer games.
u need the CD player bay case only, play games on old systems? replace the old parts.....
why you cry that you need 30 FPS, 1990 titles you like!
I have an FX8320 with a Radeon HD Twin Frozr iii 3GB and 16GB OF RAM. This gives me a good idea of how my PC performs compared to the one you got.
I more than likely spaced it but did he buy this locally or was it off a site?
I love these old gaming towers, such cool tech to refurb.
I have the same PC setup (with an FX-8350 and 32GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 (6GB version)) as a second in a dual chassis (a ThermalTake W200) and for some reason, Forza Horizon 5 would not work for long, and kept crashing. Aparrently, it does not support the FX series CPU's. Something worth investigating?
As for the primary PC I have, it is a Ryzen 9 3950X, 64GB RAM and an RTX 2060 SUPER. It's currently all m.2 SSD based as well.
I just bought a as new ryzen 3 5300u, vega 6 laptop for 225euro. Seems like a good cheap upgrade from my old asus i7 3610qm, gt610m laptop. :)
Ive bought a couple of PCs from Cash Convertors and often you find you get extras but I did buy one which didn't arrive with the graphics card I expected and was a complete piece of junk. Why worry about the PSU on a £99 PC, it's probably run it for years and with a PCIE connector it indicates it's slightly better than the ultra budget ones.
Did you know there are (at least) 3 revisions of the standard noctua nh-u12s?
Shoot, I wish there was something like that in the states. That's a nice find!
i wish cool and practical tower cases like these were still buyable
I definitely have had the same issue with changing something and then out the old supposedly defective part back and all of a sudden it works.
Nice system for that price, you could even get more out of it with some cheap upgrades too. If all you play is older games or games that don't require much graphical power (moba games, visual novels and even WoW are not that intensive) then something like this would be ideal, cheap to buy and cheap to run.
I have a 650 Watt in the PC I game on most of the time atm. I ordered two Thermaltake "Toug" 750 Gold units as they were on sale for $70 each and had raved reviews. Whelp, one fried a board before it left the bench and the other fried a GPU. I was livid. I couldn't return the to Amazon either bc I let them sit for 6 months or so before taking one out to use it. I bought an EVGA something-or-other 850 Watt Platinum for when the new GPUs come out, expecting to buy an x800 or xx80 class GPU for $110 just to find out that Nvidia's power looks like it will be off the chain, and their 70 class card is going to skimp on RAM, most likely making 1440p with Raytracing a terrible experience. You'd have to use DLSS or Image scaling to keep RAM usage under control in the games I play, which looks like ass at 1440p, so my card of choice is going to use too much juice if it spikes and my _"eh, maybe I could step down to get the extra RT performance over AMD"_ idea got tossed out the window when the 10GB on a 162 bit BUS came out. Or 160, I forget, but wtv ity is, it is too small.
I was excited about this GPU launch, with well over $1k put aside that's I keep tossing a $5 here, a $20 there on top of, and even if I spent the entire $1800 USD, $150-$200 would have to go to a PSU, and another $500-$700 would have to go towards a 220 outlet; and I have a friend who will put it in for me so I don't have to pay an electrician. That is absolutely absurd. A 5800X with 1 2GB m.2, a 1TB SATA (Both Samsung Evos), another 2 TB SATA Eo I am probably going to add, 32GB of RAM and an xx80 class card should not cost almost $2k when all is said and done decause it's spikes are rumored to be over 3x it's 420 Watt rating. That is utter trash. They *HAVE* to get that shit under 400 watts or they are screwed sales-wise. Either that or they are going to get hit with a crapload of lawsuits when older houses start catching fire because the system draw hit 1600+ watts and took too long to trip the breakers/fuse box.
Of course maybe AMD ends up having great Raytracing and it's a moot point. I'm almost torn now. ei If I can't get what I want, but need more than the 5700 I have in my gaming PC, should I scale back to AMD's 12GB card, buy Nvidia's (if they have one and it is under 400 watts), then just sell it a year into the following gen's lifecycle as I'm 99% sure they'll figure something out for the power fraw by then, or should I just get the best AMD card I can and hold it for 3 or 4 years, hoping the RT ends upo being better than their _Tres' Effects_ for hair? Kinda silly, but with the price of GPU's it ends up being a relatively tough decision.
Sometimes reseating the graphics card sorts out the shut down problem...I suspect that is what happend here..great vid thanks.
This does make me wonder if this is one of those computers that will just randomly shut down without any obvious reason. I run into this problem with Dell Optiplex models. It didn't matter what I replaced--as long as I used Dell's parts, it would fail. It sucked spending so much to try to get my dad a working computer.
If it isn't like that, and the shutdowns were just a fluke, this seems like a rather good buy, even just going by what was on paper (and not the extras) It's at the price I've seen for computers without dedicated graphics cards.
Dell Optiflex! Extreme Quality guaranteed!! :D
Interesting, and somewhat shared, experiences here.
I'm currently in process of upgrading my daughter's gaming PC (she's 15, no, it's not killer, she plays like Minecraft and Terraria) - and we've gone from FX-6100 to FX-8350 (and now to I5-6500, well, soon at least). The 8000 series FX chips do handle modern GPUs OK - I have that system running an RX5500xt currently, and it does so with some grace. The stutters and dips can be offputting - which is why I'm trying to modernize a bit for her (she hates asking me to troubleshoot, probably because BIOS is boring, or something).
I really like FX series chips, despite the controversy and general dishonesty in actual core performance. The 8350, in multi-core performance, really does still hold up - maybe not as well as my Xeon Mac Pro gaming machine (CRT gaming, baby!) but it still does OK.
Nice video. Like the switch with the rapid-fire gaming benchmarks - seems like I saw more in less time. Good job man!
Agreed, I'm still daily driving an FX-8320, and while it's showing its age it still is able to pull its weight with my RX 480 4GB. And it's somewhat amusing to me that despite the significant performance advantages Intel's 3rd gen had at launch, the FX series sometimes outperforms it with the newer, core-optimized games. Certainly looking for an upgrade eventually, but for now my 8320 is still holding strong.
With a bit of modification, I bet that "Power Supply" could be turned into a rather interesting desk fan.
Cool idea
About 20% slower than my 200$ system.
Great find
What a bargain!
The performamce is pretty good for such pricing tag.
Was that plastic from the cooler stuck to the top of the cpu?
I have XFX RX460 Slim with 4GB GDDR5 as reserve for Asus RX580 8GB which I bought one year later. Sometimes I get feeling that RX460 performed better then its stronger brother (especially when I play CoD WW2), currently I have FX8320e, 4*4GB DDR3 1866MHz G Skill Sniper, Asus M5A78L-M/USB3, 12OGB Toshiba A100 SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 320TB WD Black, both 2.5" and 550W LC Power Silent.
Glad the problem went away after you put it together again. But what if someone who isn't PC savy would of bought it? Would suck for them once the problem started
Send Noctua an email, they are likely to give you a mounting kit for free, for the U12S.
I found one on Amazon for £6, but I’ll keep that in mind for any future coolers I find! Thanks :)
You should always download and run stress test software on both the GPU and CPU before re-selling these as that will give you a much better picture of health than just playing games for a while.
Was the SSD the boot drive for the system?
I havent watched your videos in aome time but got this notification and it looked interesting! 👍
Did i said, how i like this kind of videos!!
Greatly!!
3:10 noo please never throw out a psu to the bin! It has ton of useful parts in it! Just listen bro, my 5yrs psu went to a silicone heaven (blown cap). So i desoldered everything out and i auctioned those components, got 550CZK for them - not bad at all.
I always forget the RX400 series are 6 years old now, still using my RX480 that I bought on launch. Longest I've ever used a card.
Can I ask, do you have a mother pc thats like at least 8 cores 10th gen intel/AMD equivalent or higher with a 30 series card/AMD equivalent? Or are you strictly budget always?
Chipset could have been overheating on the 970 chipset gigabyte board. Probably never been repasted and hardly any airflow is moving around it.
Awesome find for £99!
Hey RGHD you should cover e3 series of processors they fit in same motherboards as i5s and i7s and perform same too but way cheaper
Great video!
No you are SECOND ! You are SECOND congratulations on this performance you get 🥈🏆🍾🥂👏🇬🇧 You were fast to click! You forgot to like your own reply!
@@RoderikvanReekum Yup yup i was too quick for this boi