after 7 years there is no flesh… so how can they say no foul play he could’ve bled out stabbed shot if those parts are missing after seven years you can’t say foul play is not suspected at this point
@ Forensic science is the use of scientific methods or expertise to investigate crimes or examine evidence that might be presented in a court of law. Forensic science comprises a diverse array of disciplines, from fingerprint and DNA analysis to anthropology and wildlife forensics…. They need to do there job chief
So they can tell by the bones. For an example if the person was sh0t bones would have significant damage due to the force of the bullet. A knife would show more of a sharp edge and possibly no fractures. A forensic anthropologist looks for very specific things to tell how a person died. I’m not sure if these remains have gotten that far but LEO’s might just be saying they don’t suspect foul play. I wonder what happened. I remember when this happened. Very sad.
In all seriousness people do get high af at these music festivals. He could have wondered too far into the woods, tripping or to take a piss then fell and hurt himself. Either way I hope they did go to their full forensic abilities to rule out foul play.
@ full forensic is a must I agree .. the fact there was a fight stated w girlfriend opens many doors .. male friends w revenge , him being hurt 😞 getting more drunk / high .. 😪 in all this is sad In Gods name I Pray 🙏🏻 Hell is real … 🔥
@ yep 👍agreed .. Forensic anthropologists from the Western Michigan University Homer Stryker M.D. School of Medicine made the positive identification this morning through dental record comparison,” The cause of death has yet to be determined and may take several months, I pray they can find clues in his phone , clothing , dental records 🙏🏻 sad to read Kevin Graves, who would be 34 if alive today, attended the music festival for his first time with his then-girlfriend and roommate in July 2018. He walked away last seen crying from his then girlfriend
People wandering away from music festivals on bad trips is pretty common. I'm not saying he was on a vision quest or anything, but he was only a mile or so from the venue, and the "wooded area" only looks to be several hundred feet across. If he wanted help, he could have found it.
@@NotFromUtahRyAdd to that it sometimes it's in the high 70s with 80%+ humidity during the summer nights in that area. Even on "clean" molly lost with no water you could easily succumb to heatstroke. Then there's the option of severly adulterated dxxgs or overdose. Pma will raise your body temp so high you cook your own brain. Too many uppers with no way to cool down and no water will cause od/heatstroke as well. Then there's too much fetty or xans. Get lost, lay down, forget to breathe, and never wake up.
@@sjohnson65456correct .. searches should have found him the family trusting the city too much .. they r not going sht check that girlfriend & friends closer
A lot of ppl who go there stay up for days, take a lot of "things", dance for hours, and are just about near falling out by the end. If they do sleep its only during the day to stay up all night. Then They crawl their way home and sleep for days. Basically situational awareness is about none, and they just want to get home to crash. So not many are wandering around during the day. Or sightseeing the area after the festival is over. Trips off grounds are for more supplies then back to the party. Unless he died early in the week and started smelling ripe it's no surprise he wasn't found. No one was looking til awhile after.
I feel for his family, who have been holding on to hope all of these years. I personally don’t think foul play should be counted out, until an autopsy is performed. How can he have been missed by others this entire time, especially if this festival is still held there?
The craziest thing this so called father 😮 what a thing to say sounds like he was not close to his son because just why would u say yeah if he would have called me I’d pick him up 😮😮well we’ll no sht Sherlock .. no tears no upset 😢 this boy had no love around him 😮 .. I pray 🙏🏻 for those who did looks like his sister did a bit of searching but didn’t search much being he was found close by she trusted the city .😮
@joansmith684,You took everything out of context and just ran with it,you didn't even see the whole interview but yet made that nasty comment not knowing anything about their relationship but you're probably the one screaming at others that they're judging.
@ ohhh barb .. there’s not much to watching this whole content.. pretty informational actually - that content of dad not crying not looking distraught give me a break .. cold 🥶 a loving dad looking like he’s a long lost neighbor instead of a FATHER ..” yeah I’d he’d just call me I would have picked him up from anywhere .. shows all the ❣️ of a true father lol … we all have eyes wide open hello dear barb stop wearing ur dang mask 😷.. time to wakey wakey
THIS IS MY FAMILY U DMB FCK. THE AMOUNT OF TEARS THAT HAVE BEEN SHED BY THIS MAN IS IMMEASUREABLE. KEEP UR FKN MOUTH SHUT ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHINGGGGGG ABOUT. HAVEN'T WE BEEN THRU ENOUGH WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DEGRADING OUR FAMILY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
after 7 years there is no flesh… so how can they say no foul play he could’ve bled out stabbed shot if those parts are missing after seven years you can’t say foul play is not suspected at this point
Agreed !!!😢😢😢 dear lord I Pray 🙏🏻
Science
@ Forensic science is the use of scientific methods or expertise to investigate crimes or examine evidence that might be presented in a court of law. Forensic science comprises a diverse array of disciplines, from fingerprint and DNA analysis to anthropology and wildlife forensics…. They need to do there job chief
I have two sentences for you..
“RIGHT NOW there is no sign of foul play”
“official cause of death MAY TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS”
So they can tell by the bones. For an example if the person was sh0t bones would have significant damage due to the force of the bullet. A knife would show more of a sharp edge and possibly no fractures. A forensic anthropologist looks for very specific things to tell how a person died. I’m not sure if these remains have gotten that far but LEO’s might just be saying they don’t suspect foul play. I wonder what happened. I remember when this happened. Very sad.
So terribly sorry ❣️🙏🇺🇸
No foul play? Who goes into the woods to die? I hope they investigate this a lil more
Agree .. check the friends , girlfriend more … name her news media
In all seriousness people do get high af at these music festivals. He could have wondered too far into the woods, tripping or to take a piss then fell and hurt himself. Either way I hope they did go to their full forensic abilities to rule out foul play.
@ full forensic is a must I agree .. the fact there was a fight stated w girlfriend opens many doors .. male friends w revenge , him being hurt 😞 getting more drunk / high .. 😪 in all this is sad
In Gods name I Pray 🙏🏻
Hell is real … 🔥
@@CharacterInYourReality1127 that was my thought...he got all wasted...wandered off
@ yep 👍agreed .. Forensic anthropologists from the Western Michigan University Homer Stryker M.D. School of Medicine made the positive identification this morning through dental record comparison,” The cause of death has yet to be determined and may take several months, I pray they can find clues in his phone , clothing , dental records 🙏🏻 sad to read Kevin Graves, who would be 34 if alive today, attended the music festival for his first time with his then-girlfriend and roommate in July 2018. He walked away last seen crying from his then girlfriend
People wandering away from music festivals on bad trips is pretty common. I'm not saying he was on a vision quest or anything, but he was only a mile or so from the venue, and the "wooded area" only looks to be several hundred feet across. If he wanted help, he could have found it.
Yeah something went wrong .. his girlfriend ..😮??? In going investigation ? But nothing guess’s foul play ? Hummmmm not doing there job michigan sad
@@joansmith6844They said it could take months to determine the cause of death. Sounds like they are doing their job. Media always be trippin'.
You’re completely disregarding the possibility that someone on drugs could easily get lost in the woods.
@@NotFromUtahRy exactly , I just think I had more Guardian Angels than this man .Kalamazoo Jams in the 90$ were awesomer as it got .
@@NotFromUtahRyAdd to that it sometimes it's in the high 70s with 80%+ humidity during the summer nights in that area. Even on "clean" molly lost with no water you could easily succumb to heatstroke. Then there's the option of severly adulterated dxxgs or overdose. Pma will raise your body temp so high you cook your own brain. Too many uppers with no way to cool down and no water will cause od/heatstroke as well. Then there's too much fetty or xans. Get lost, lay down, forget to breathe, and never wake up.
So very sorry for the family.
Jesus please give his family your peace.
Deeply saddened 🙏🏽🙏🏽😮
7 years ago wow
Praying for his family
So sad for the family. Festivals can get crazy I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
That poor Dad. 😢
May He Rest In Peace
7 years of his remains still on the music festival grounds?! Holy sh!t Electric Forest will forever be haunted now 😱
They said near the grounds in a different city. Still pretty close. Surprised no one searched there before, or at least they didn't say anybody did.
@@sjohnson65456correct .. searches should have found him the family trusting the city too much .. they r not going sht check that girlfriend & friends closer
A lot of ppl who go there stay up for days, take a lot of "things", dance for hours, and are just about near falling out by the end. If they do sleep its only during the day to stay up all night. Then They crawl their way home and sleep for days. Basically situational awareness is about none, and they just want to get home to crash. So not many are wandering around during the day. Or sightseeing the area after the festival is over. Trips off grounds are for more supplies then back to the party. Unless he died early in the week and started smelling ripe it's no surprise he wasn't found. No one was looking til awhile after.
He was probably on drugs and or drinking. They had an argument he took off. It’s not uncommon and not unheard of.
7 years ago that body has to be badly decomposed.
how are they going to say no signs of fowl play?
Lol what's left of the body to tell
forensics on what's left, but you seem like you munch dung, so knowing this won't help you.
They're going by initial signs. For example, no bullet holes found.
More like a skeleton.
foul
@@nuttybar9girlfriend & friends 😮
Damn, I went to high school with him. Rip in peace brother.
Body found. Let the wrongful death lawsuits begin. Prayers for the family
How long had it been? How were they able to know how he went if it had been a very long time?
Sure whatever its sounds suspicious to me i watch enough crime shows enough to know things aren't what they seem to be.
I feel for his family, who have been holding on to hope all of these years. I personally don’t think foul play should be counted out, until an autopsy is performed. How can he have been missed by others this entire time, especially if this festival is still held there?
Prayers
At least they have an answer and more coming.
this is why u don’t do drugs kids
Oh I see.....no foul play? So he died and buried himself in the woods?
So he just went off and crawled in a hole,making me wonder how often that could happen 🤔
So sad 😭 my condolences and prayers goes out to the family 🙏🏽🕊️
Sad for his family. Closure still seems a long ways off as they wait for cause of death. Praying for them.
They weren’t smart enough to chopper over the area or search the area a little better Rothberry is not a very big area this seems very suspect
Rest in peace, Kevin. ❤
🕊️ Peace to his family.
No foul play? He didn't come home after a festival. Suspicious?
Did no one search the festival grounds for him the past 7 years?
Yes, they did many searches over the weeks after his disappearance.
Dont do drug's
Rest in peace my brother😭💔🙏
The girlfriend is #1 suspect
Poor soul now his spirit can cross the rainbow.
Fentanyl?
😢 ❤
⚖️🕊️💙🙇🏾♀️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Amen
🙏
Tha heck …?!?
RIP
A “music festival in michigan” Makes us wonder if it was the usual suspects.
Nitrous mafia
Great family this guy had though......if it was my family they may have looked for a week and then "oh well".... He had a wonderful Dad!!
Prayers and condolences to his family and friends.
Drugs are bad mkay
That reporter is a beautiful woman.
The craziest thing this so called father 😮 what a thing to say sounds like he was not close to his son because just why would u say yeah if he would have called me I’d pick him up 😮😮well we’ll no sht Sherlock .. no tears no upset 😢 this boy had no love around him 😮 .. I pray 🙏🏻 for those who did looks like his sister did a bit of searching but didn’t search much being he was found close by she trusted the city .😮
@joansmith684,You took everything out of context and just ran with it,you didn't even see the whole interview but yet made that nasty comment not knowing anything about their relationship but you're probably the one screaming at others that they're judging.
@ ohhh barb .. there’s not much to watching this whole content.. pretty informational actually - that content of dad not crying not looking distraught give me a break .. cold 🥶 a loving dad looking like he’s a long lost neighbor instead of a FATHER ..” yeah I’d he’d just call me I would have picked him up from anywhere .. shows all the ❣️ of a true father lol … we all have eyes wide open hello dear barb stop wearing ur dang mask 😷.. time to wakey wakey
@ barb mannnnn stop judging me .. u contradict ur self
@@joansmith6844 Dude has had seven years to grieve privately off camera. Your comments make you sound delusional.
THIS IS MY FAMILY U DMB FCK. THE AMOUNT OF TEARS THAT HAVE BEEN SHED BY THIS MAN IS IMMEASUREABLE. KEEP UR FKN MOUTH SHUT ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHINGGGGGG ABOUT. HAVEN'T WE BEEN THRU ENOUGH WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DEGRADING OUR FAMILY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Shrooms😂
Terrible
Drugs
Praying for his family