soooo I kinda got scammed

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  • Essentially a story of me being bad at advocating for myself and losing money 😅 Thank you to Squarespace for sponsoring this video: squarespace.com/kelseyrodriguez
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  • @jesikaneemann3703
    @jesikaneemann3703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Printers can really only physically print the detail of 300 “dots per inch”. You have to imagine it as literally printing the ink dots. Maybe there are some out there that are more advanced. But if you have a file at 600dpi you can easily double the size of the product for print without pixilation. I do most of my work in a sketchbook, scan it in at 1,200 dpi & have created prints & products well over double if not triple the size without “blurry” issues.

  • @maskichef
    @maskichef 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    key words were spoken wisely: I should have advocated for myself. I shouldn't have settled. - applies not only to poor scans.

  • @justtese8179
    @justtese8179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    I mean if he gets consistent business then he may actually believe the job he does is professional, but the difference is crazy! Im glad you found a better resolution

    • @XDeminox
      @XDeminox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      4k brand new scanner will out perform even the most high end scanner from only 3 years ago. The software advancements alone are insane.
      On top of that, most people have different expectations.

  • @ScottHebertArt
    @ScottHebertArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Scamed by art prints, hacked on discord.
    WE NEED TO STOP THIS TREJECTORY 😅😂

  • @carrotlyn
    @carrotlyn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Oh my god.. Kelsey, I know exactly who you’re talking about. I’m also local and yeah, dude is pretty chaotic. I’ve had good experiences with getting prints from him, but there are definitely areas where the service has fallen short before. Thanks for sharing an alternative.

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      omg I'm glad I'm not the only one that's had that experience!

    • @carrotlyn
      @carrotlyn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@KelseyRodriguezI’m a tattoo artist and I make prints of paintings and flash, which usually land around the $25 price point for an 11x14” print. They’re not meant to be high end products so I have let some of the printing errors slide (details in the corners and borders being cut off), but last year I was in the DeYoung Open 2023, and had prints of my piece made, and I was definitely disappointed with the quality relative to what I wanted to sell them for. Previously, Cain would make it up by including free scans or giving me the misprints for free, but I think moving forward I need to find a more professional giclee printer. Thanks for sharing your experience, you’re def not the only one who’s left disappointed.

  • @JescoStudio
    @JescoStudio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    It’s an honest mistake he should have put it through the quesadilla press before he inserted into the toaster. Just take it back to him and it should be a quick fix

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I was thinking I might get better results by running stuff though my ice cream maker and then scanning via waffle maker?

    • @CourtneyCha0s
      @CourtneyCha0s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Don't forget to adjust the settings on all the small kitchen applicances before yous start as well! Otherwise you might end up with lightly toasted instead of that beautiful burnt brown 👌

    • @Emilysartjourney
      @Emilysartjourney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @JigmeDatse
      @JigmeDatse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh this is great... Thanks for bringing some lightness here...

  • @sarahjanser
    @sarahjanser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Making traditional artwork into files is actually really tricky. I do that for a couple of years now with my own art and had even a long talk with a professional photographer on the topic what is better, to scan or take pictures of artwork. We came to the conclusion that photography is theoretically better, if and only if you have a setup that allows you to take kind of the same shots all the time with the same professional lighting, so basically if you transform part of your office into a professional photographers studio. With a good scanner, it is possible to achieve really good results, but in my opinion at least a basic additional photo editing is a must with scans to make the colors look as natural as possible. Usually (depending on the scanner, Epson is really the best I tested yet), it is at least necessary to increase the contrast and make minor color tweaks.

    • @sarahjanser
      @sarahjanser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      From what I see, the person you paid to scan your artwork, does not seem to be an artist himself, otherwise he probably would have realized that the colors are way off due to the scanning process. As an artist and especially as an artist of the particular piece you would see the color changes even more because you have been spending hours to create this. So scanning or at least editing the scan by yourself will be a total game changer.

  • @bentinho
    @bentinho 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I went to school for graphic design and feel the need to throw this info out there... A good print quality image's resolution for art should be 600 to 1200 dpi for most printing purposes. So if you're scanning or photographing work, that's a good starting point. Of course you can always scan higher for archival purposes and you can always reduce an images resolution for whatever application you need but you CAN'T (reliably) add resolution to a low resolution image.

  • @Baninabina
    @Baninabina 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    this reminds me I wasn't stupid for 'blowing money' on a nice scanner after art school 😭

  • @SmutGrrl
    @SmutGrrl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Professional does not equal quality, and this is something I talk with people a lot about. The word professional literally just means that someone makes money doing whatever it is they are doing. As soon as I took my first payment for writing a custom piece, I started labeling myself as a professional writer...because I was...it became my "profession" ...You can very much so be a NOVICE professional. He is absolutely a professional, but not an expert, and this is a valuable lesson to remember when you are seeking people. It's a total bummer, but in the future perhaps you will do a test with the professional you go to and vet them a bit. It is absolutely important to vet professionals you are going to use for any service. Sorry you learned it this way though! I am EXTREMELY jealous of your scanner 🤭 (I bought a much lesser version of that but it works great for my level of work right now). 💖 I don't think you got ripped off, I think you didn't do due diligence (he may think he's doing a good enough job, and perhaps needs to know he's not). Your scans are looking great now though!

  • @AdamDuffArt
    @AdamDuffArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I’m fuming on your behalf Kelsey - I can’t so relate to how infuriating it is dealing with these “pros”. It’s so worth doing or investing in doing it yourself if possible - you get the quality standard you choose.
    And btw - your paintings are STUNNING - which pisses me off all the more, it’s an injustice butchering the scans on quality work like that

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      aw thank you for the compliment Adam! That really means a lot from someone as talented as you!

  • @robpollock3090
    @robpollock3090 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kelsey, I'm a retired art director. There are actually a few good service bureaus out there but not that many. No one is going to care as much about your art as you. Many of the professional artists I know have purchased their own scanners and printers so as to deliver quality work to their customers. I've purchased several quality scanners and printers over the years. I think it's best when you have total control over your processes and final product. Very sorry about your experience but I'm glad that you've found a solution. Your customers will be happier as well. Take care. Love your videos BTW.

  • @CourtneyMermaid
    @CourtneyMermaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    "Maybe it was a toaster" and I legit spat out my tea laughing! This is absolutely brutal though! NIGHT AND DAY difference. Like WINTER NIGHT IN THE FCKING SNOW vs GORGEOUS SUMMER DAY IN THE BRIGHT SUN kind of different. Lord this is just monstrous. I'm so sad that happened but thrilled you got a scanner! Love it!

  • @d.o.nmuzic3802
    @d.o.nmuzic3802 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Glad you’re happy with the printer.
    If you don’t mind, in a few months can you please do an update on the printer and maybe speak about ink usage and ink pricing?
    Thanks 🙏🏾

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      it's just a scanner, no print functionality!

    • @menckenwolf
      @menckenwolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@KelseyRodriguez , can you provide details about the scanner and what you've learned using it? Perhaps that could be a video: what to look for in a scanner, what you've learned about using it, what you wish you knew earlier, &tc.

    • @lukrezialaval2406
      @lukrezialaval2406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! That would be amazing.

  • @carolynapappas
    @carolynapappas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have that same scanner, only the earlier version. I love it! I still spend a lot of time cleaning it up after, removing stray hairs, etc. to make it perfect. Now that you have this awesome, commercial-level scanner, you could offer your services to other artists to scan their work and possibly make back some of your cost.

  • @StudioHannah
    @StudioHannah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    0:30 "If your file looks like it was taken on a Nokia phone circa 2007 you're 1. a DISGRACE--"
    Was not expecting that amount of fire this early in the video.

  • @rrdcreates
    @rrdcreates 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's definitely a matter of different equipment. Just because someone else has the ability and professional level equipment does not mean they keep up with getting new equipment regularly. If his audience is cool with the quality (they may have different standards than you) then there is no reason for him to buy the latest and greatest machine each year to keep up. Sounds to me like he definitely needs an upgrade and to be more upfront with output vs. client need/expectations. Think of cameras - there were world renowned photographers using 3MP cameras not too long ago...and now we can shoot in 4k, wirelessly transfer images and videos, and store huge files on mini SD cards. They were still professional 10 years ago and still charged 2k for weddings - just better equipment now would make their work look dull.

    • @rrdcreates
      @rrdcreates 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You could also consider the cost/benefit of offering the improved quality - were people less likely to purchase from you with his scans vs these other scans? In taking on this part of the task are you now putting more labor dollars and cost of equipment in than having someone else to do it at a lower dpi? If the human eye cannot detect the level of dpi detail, is it necessary to have that level?

  • @ashu_mashu
    @ashu_mashu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "Probably it was a toaster " nah like man I agree with this 😂 I just hope that your future work remains safe and sound

  • @kittyfitty473
    @kittyfitty473 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm so sorry this happened to you, BUT I'm happy it brought you to your amazing scanner! And Cain as the stand-in name for this guy? [chef's kiss]

  • @SavMortem
    @SavMortem 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh no! I'm sorry this happened to you :(
    I'm glad you found a solution that works for you and now you can control the quality of your prints which is wonderful! I wish you the best ❤️

  • @YasmeenKhan
    @YasmeenKhan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been blithely posting photos of my artwork online taken with my 5 year old phone and my £100 compact camera.... I mean I do edit them but... have I been posting garbage on my website & insta? Have I been providing garbage to the shop I sell with to put on their website??! I had no idea!
    sorry to make this about me; I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. But it sounds like you can now open up a rival service with your amazing new scanner :)

  • @danielaravenous
    @danielaravenous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Kelsey, i am glad you found the best solution. Best luck with your future prints!

  • @Julieclaireyu
    @Julieclaireyu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow! Your paintings look amazing with the new printer. I was just talking about this yesterday since I am taking photos of my art with my phone - this makes me want to invest in a scanner as well!

  • @mysketchbook3402
    @mysketchbook3402 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    No it's not click bait. You technically did or didn't get scammed depending on how people look at it. You did a video based on your title and you announced your new better prints. That's just good business. Thanks for all the hard work and why we need to learn every aspect of the business of art. Godbless

  • @amalathisdreaming
    @amalathisdreaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So sorry this happened to you! Though I must admit I laughed way more than I should. The way you described the whole ordeal, and your gradual uncovering of the truth, was hilarious. The difference is so apparent, so glad you chose to grab this scanner.

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the goal was def to make people chuckle throughout so i’m glad i succeeded! i’m not to hung up over this tbh

  • @HoneymoonAlways
    @HoneymoonAlways 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving your vibe today. While I am sure some of the passion comes out of the frustration, I am sensing its part excitement for the major improvement in your workflow and quality. Wishing you the best!

  • @CricketsBay
    @CricketsBay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know it might be more expensive, but don't places like OfficeMax, Office Depot, FedEx Office, etc. scan prints and send them to a file for you? You can take your laptop or tablet with you and have them scan 1 artwork and review the quality, then if you like it, they'll do the rest.

  • @Kenriots
    @Kenriots 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as an artist, i only photo and scan my art, I use PS to fix anything or stich larger images together. sounds like there is business in this category! :)

  • @carolcunliffe88
    @carolcunliffe88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely LOVE your channel! Your authenticity is over the top fantastic - thank you! Love your creative artistry is amazing! Thank you for sharing!

  • @fateatwork3191
    @fateatwork3191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This happened to me a few years ago at a very well known print shop at my city as well.
    More often than not whoever is operating the machine doesn't know what you are looking for in your scans unless you stay and watch them do it and have them do it more than once if needed so.
    It also happens that in my particular case, these people were more used to scan blueprints for architecture than anything else and they were just incredibly lazy at the moment of setting up the scanner to scan something other than blue prints.
    I went back to have them redo the work to look a bit closer to what I was looking for, but ultimately they were so unwilling to do their job right that I bought my own scanner, not a professional one but a commercial domestic one and got the results I was looking for by myself as well.

  • @Angela10277088
    @Angela10277088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a toaster! I am so sorry this happened to you. Thank you so much for sharing this experience. You saved a lot of us from this experience!

  • @mothra_mothra
    @mothra_mothra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing. We all need to know about this stuff.
    BTW... the easiest way to remember is that stalactites have to hold tight to the ceiling! 😊👍

  • @SpyroAndMrKatFan
    @SpyroAndMrKatFan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your space is so beautiful and looks cozy to work in. I've really been struggling with hating my space and how dark it is. I almost don't get any sunlight here.

  • @mandymatt3rs
    @mandymatt3rs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I often think similarly when a product is not how I think it should be. It is nice to know I'm not the only one thinking that way and that such thought trains can be dead wrong (you were really ripped off).
    You won and came back better, thank you for sharing😊

  • @robertsarchitecture
    @robertsarchitecture 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A few things about scanners... A $300 scanner is almost as good as a $3,600 scanner. I think you scammed yourself out of $3,300!
    Second, oil paintings and watercolors don't scan well. The light is too close to the pigment and actually goes through it differently than the way the eye sees it. It is much better to get a high resolution camera and take photos than scan. I only scan paintings smaller than 12" for this reason. I suggest getting a good camera and taking your own photos.
    Third, some colors in oil and watercolors are difficult to match when scanning. Yellow ochre and other earth tones are an example. One always needs to do color correction in photoshop to fix these colors no matter how good your scanner is. It is better to spend $3,000 on a color correct monitor than on a scanner.
    To do good color correction and fix scans you really need to have many of the same skills as an artist in seeing and matching color. You need to understand additive color theory and subtractive color theory to get the colors right between the artwork and the computer monitor.
    So maybe don't be so hard on your 'scammer'. I would also return your $3,600 scanner and buy a $300 one. Then use the $3,300 to buy a 60mp camera.

    • @serenityjewel
      @serenityjewel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I guess you missed the entire second half of the video where she scanned an oil painting that contains what looks like yellow ochre and the scan came out amazing? Not sure how but apparently you did. So maybe your $300 scanner can't scan oil paintings well, and maybe back in the day $3,600 scanners couldn't scan oil paintings or yellow ochre well, but today's $3600 scanner can scan them just fine. And then you ended your erroneous diatribe with "don't be hard on her scammer" when she literally posted pictures of the crappy scans he gave her vs the amazing scans she was able to produce in a few minutes with her scanner. It's like you were so eager to mansplain and tell her she was wrong that you didn't even bother to watch the video. Bless TH-camrs that have to deal with this kind of insanity masquerading as experience.

  • @lonefaolan6042
    @lonefaolan6042 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good thing you got the scanner. You now have more control of the turn around time and quality. Win, win in the end. 👍

  • @centradragon
    @centradragon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many artists take photos of their work with a good lighting setup, a DSLR, and 4-6 shots - works with huge paintings, and very easy to use Photoshop or a similar program to stitch together the tiled image. You essentially use the camera at a consistent angle to DIY the scanning process.
    It sucks you paid for scans that weren't the high quality you expected, but unfortunately it's up to us to preview and double-check these things. I'm glad the scanner worked out, though!

  • @Tgrlikesart
    @Tgrlikesart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! That’s wild. Love the video and thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @banandababa
    @banandababa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a really good storyteller I never knew a story about scanning a painting could have me so hooked! If I were you I would just email him explaining your disappointment with a side by side comparison. I respect you for not saying his name as I really do believe you should always give business owners a chance to rectify their mistakes.

  • @tomadough
    @tomadough 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad you got yourself an amazing scanner to provide the top quality you're looking for. 👌 way to advocate your worth! It's inspiring! :)

  • @SanchiaMarshall
    @SanchiaMarshall 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That difference is crazy. Thanks for sharing...yes never assume, ask for references if you have to. :)

  • @christinakentart
    @christinakentart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry to hear that happened to you, Kelsey! But good on you on figuring it out and finding a great scanner for your work. If you need to get images of larger works that don't fit in the scanner, I can recommend some photographers here.

  • @glittr_prince
    @glittr_prince 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds more like fine art scanning isn't really in his wheelhouse, and he may not even realize it. Glad you found a solution that works for you. Alternately, if you know photography and lighting, you can get good results without having to go into debt for a scanner like that.

  • @TriniRoyQuiReyes
    @TriniRoyQuiReyes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh my Goodness Kelsey the difference is like night and day oo . Thank God you did it yourself this is an eye opener. Thank you for the insight

  • @youangelique1
    @youangelique1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im so happy for you! wtg girl!!

  • @thactotum
    @thactotum 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm wondering if maybe he's using an all in one printer, scanner, copier. scanning lower res for speed, and throwing the images through an upscaler. it could explain the 'mushiness' of the texture as it blends the pixels of a low res image. or is it possible he photographing rather than scanning? lot's of ways this could happen I guess. and likely most friends and family I know or even a casual buyer at a farmers market, local craft market wouldn't find any issue with the results, where as artists and art collectors have more descerning eyes.

  • @SailorMya
    @SailorMya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the comparison images you showed the one that the guy scanned and I thought "that looks okay" then you showed your scan and was like "okay yeah that other one was trash!" the first scan was so washed out... I'm not a painter but owning a scanner was one of the first things I invested in as an adult for my art!

  • @cinnflowergirl
    @cinnflowergirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Tepid dog shit" lol. It can't hurt to talk to Kane and tell him what happened. He might refund you and you'll feel good for standing up for yourself. All he can do is say no. I wish I was able to stand up for myself better earlier. It helped to do it in smaller situations first.
    It might be worth checking with a professional printer, for those who can't afford a scanner, that works with architecs. I'm a landscape designer and scanned stuff at FedEx office or office store. It cost a lot. I would need full size (24" x 26") prints to show clients. The professional printer would always get it right or make it right. They had limited hours but were always fabulous. Plus if they didn't feel comfortable doing something get wouldn't bullshit me. Good luck.
    Honestly, I have a Canon scanner aNd do photography more now but I'm going to scan a small painrand see what happens. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ReensaraiArtbyReenaS
    @ReensaraiArtbyReenaS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I struggle with the same.You actually went to a local professional.I am so sorry for your experience.I will browse through your art and templates in your shop.good you got your own scanner

  • @rcafilmproductions1640
    @rcafilmproductions1640 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Noooooo! I'm so sorry to hear this happend to you 😟

  • @artistesser
    @artistesser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I didn't expect this stortyime lol

  • @kaikayoru1316
    @kaikayoru1316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks like he took your image, scanned it, and asked AI to replicate it. Send it back to you hoping you wouldn't notice.

  • @lauritaerpg
    @lauritaerpg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel attacked by the fact he put filters and weird stuff over your artwork! :< I'm so sorry this happened to you Kelsey!! I know you probably are not interested in this biz idea on the long run, but what if you offer scanning other artists works with your super machine for a limited time to recover the money you lost on that person? :c

  • @GnaReffotsirk
    @GnaReffotsirk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can tell the guy you can now scan artworks for him with higher quality and you are open to working with him for a price.
    Or you can open your own scanning shop, and accept scanning jobs direct or they can ship paintings to you.
    And I would only say you got scammed if he promised a certain level of quality, but you can now provide better service having experienced the mistake you both went through.
    You can give samples now, and say you can scan 90% accuracy for matte paintings, and 75% for glossy.
    Your experience bought you something valuable, but yeah sometimes weve got to thanos is out and do it ourselves.

  • @TimothyPetersonArtist
    @TimothyPetersonArtist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry to hear of your troubles. Photographing artwork has very little to do with a photographers typical skill set. Its wonderful that your scanner is doing the job yet for anyone needing to do this on a budget: use soft boxes at 45 degree angles, create a black box or tent around the art work to eliminate glare, and light reflection and use a timed shutter and tripod to eliminate camera shake. Low ISO 100 to 200, 5.6 to 8 ish f stops, and long exposures up to .5 seconds. Also be ready to tweek a bit. You will find your sweet spot, make notes and repeat on your next shoot.

  • @zionbeasley4098
    @zionbeasley4098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos btw!!
    So I used to work at a printshop as a graphic designer art scanner lady, and as much as it pains my very soul to admit it, this story sounds soooo much like instances I’ve run into as well 😞. When I worked there, I did my very best to help the artists, cause I’m one too, but the culture of a lot of print shops is like this. It’s a mixture of a bunch of things, and most of the time the owners or employees aren’t being malicious, but stuff like that happens a lot. It pains me hear the horrors of sub-par printshop experiences 🙄 Anyway, I feel you and I’m glad you have a heavenly scanner now ❤😂

  • @kmmk292929
    @kmmk292929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    wow, your own scan is sooooooooooo much better, you can see so much more detail. Yeah they totally ripped you off.

  • @KuldaevaWatercolor
    @KuldaevaWatercolor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Kelsey, I am so sorry to hear you got scammed in the Bay Area, out of any place! As a neighbor watercolor artist, I really appreciate you sharing your experience, so artists won't fall victim to a scam by the same person. Thank you again so much! Congratulations on getting the new printer, I can't wait to see what you do with it. PS: You should have seen my excitement when I learned you are based in Bay Area 🥰

  • @KristaDoyle
    @KristaDoyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was glad to hear the improvements at Squarespace. I didn't know they had added so many upgrades. I am going to check them out. I would love to know where who you use for printing your prints you sell also.

  • @mizushimma
    @mizushimma 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oooo that’s the same scanner I have! I love it so much.
    As a traditional artist a good scanner is a must, and epson truly is the best!

  • @13bubblespop
    @13bubblespop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate you sharing this ❤

  • @salonivirkar9998
    @salonivirkar9998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe the next time make a list of what you want and don’t hesitate to ask for samples. Or you could take someone with you. It helps. I know it feels intimidating and guilty to ask a lot of questions but do it. My printer guy messed up my card game prototype. Although they were rough prototypes but I had to reprint them. I’m also sorry what happened to you but hope this helps if you’re gonna make any kind of physical products in the future.

  • @thedavidboland
    @thedavidboland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know much about paintings or this medium of art but it's cool to see the difference between Kane's work and yours! :P

  • @mendicantcrow
    @mendicantcrow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks so much for sharing this story! Also, my parents bought an archival epson scanner for recording their photos...i may need to ask if i can borrow it for my art!

  • @distinctlyaveragecyclist
    @distinctlyaveragecyclist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started in graphic design in the 1990's and drum scanners used to be prevalent. Every studio had one or had easy access to one. The downside of digital transformation is a lot of these machines got made redundant.
    Moreover, slightly off-topic, with AI generated images now flooding the marketplace, I now treat digital prints with suspicion (or just avoid them altogether). I feel that freelance artists/illustrators could do a lot worse than up skill and get into a traditional printmaking discipline. AI can't complete with that.

  • @andreahodge1472
    @andreahodge1472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh wow! It almost looks like "Kane" took his scans of your art on an Iphone7 "scanner "app!

  • @whoisharo4689
    @whoisharo4689 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Btw, i think you should mention the place to prevent the rest of us getting screwed. But then again, i dunno what percentage of your viewers live at the bay.

  • @MacoIllustrateur
    @MacoIllustrateur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You bought a fantastic scanner and it's great but you can also achieve professional scan with some less expensive scanners.

  • @victorpleitez768
    @victorpleitez768 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Positive this guy just did his best to recreate your art on Microsoft paint

  • @kelpums
    @kelpums 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question do the lower print costs mean lower quality of the print or like did you find a place that does it for cheaper but the same quality?

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cheaper but the same quality! actually a lot happier with the different paper options the new manufacturer offers!

  • @murrayboyton8779
    @murrayboyton8779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, listening to this, you started this not really having a clear idea of what you wanted, or how. So you went to a professional and didn't like them, you now have an opinion on what you want and need, and did it better. Good for you on not suffering sub par products for your customers.

  • @Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel
    @Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry you got scammed like that. I’m glad you got that scanner and got your problem solved with the freedom of doing what you need when you need it. Sadly there are a lot of rotten posers like that.

  • @WilhelmLyons
    @WilhelmLyons 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way you're describing distortions in his scans and how the canvas texture was removed - IMO kinda sounds like he used an AI upscaler, and not a good one too

  • @EL_Aura
    @EL_Aura 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HEY! probably won't get a reply but do you print your scans on a special print paper?[what is it?] (I know nothing about prints and art)

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I outsource my prints to a company called Finer Works and they use a giclee printing process and print my art on Hahnemühle Bamboo Base Eco Paper, which has a velvet finish!

  • @ItsJemmaDraws
    @ItsJemmaDraws 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He's probably been doing it for a really long time and just never upgraded his gear. Technology has gotten so much better in so quickly. (not that this is an excuse, its just he probably doesn't even know how much better things have gotten.)

  • @terra.pianos
    @terra.pianos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a professional photo editor of jewelry photos. Usually my clients ask a "professional photographer" to make photos and I edit this material. Again and again I teach people to accept photo material by looking through and zooming it ×2, ×3. And again and again I have photos with wrong focus point, noise, wrong light. Why do people ever pay for this? Only because of "professional camera"? But this type of camera doesn't make the person a photographer. Some of my clients can make better photos with their phones (of course with my instructions) and I edit them with better result.

  • @zetra021
    @zetra021 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    big win for you!

  • @KristenGuyDesign
    @KristenGuyDesign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like details too...hence the length of this comment...
    Everyone sees things a bit differently so what looks good to him will probably look different to you! Remember the "is this dress blue and black or white and gold" image sent around back in 2015, that was fun. By the way Kelsey, what colours are the dress to you?
    If I were that person I would have given you the option of receiving just the original unretouched scanned version and then a version of any retouching or fixing like getting rid of the hairs and dust. That way you could be the judge of what looks best and do your own colour retouches of the one that had the dust and hairs already removed. Colour correction is trickier...everyone sees colours a bit differently, everyone's RGB computer screens shows colour a bit differently, everyone's lighting is different, everyone's home CMYK printer is a bit different...every print shops printed proofs and final prints are going to look different from every other print shops goods.
    Whatever printer you decide to go to, think about going with the intention to create a relationship with them long term. If you are going with a local company ask if they would offer you a tour where you could ask questions. You should feel comfortable working with them and it shouldn't feel like a big rush to get you out of there, and they should definitely ask you if you have any concerns or questions throughout that process. This is when you could ask them how they get their final prints to match the printed proof they provide you with to sign off. Do they have custom montior callibration that they can provide you with for when you are doing colour correcting at home? If that isn't a thing it should be, I'd be interested to know! Do they create print to order giclee prints using colour-fast fade proof inks?
    Make sure your print company contact / tour guide understands that details matter to you and colour accuracy matters to you. The print shops might have some examples side-by-side of printed proofs and the final press prints. That would help you to see examples of proofs next to the final printed pieces to give you an idea of the quality and accuracy with details and colours.
    If you decide to max out that lava hot credit card again for a higher quality digital printer for home...I've seen other youtube artists who do their own printing and they sometimes have to do a bunch of test prints and then go back and adjust the colours in Photoshop and reprint on their own home printer so they can be sure the colours match as closely as possible with a side by side comparison to the original art piece. This is a lot of extra work and the ink cartridges alone must set them back a small forture as well, plus they're doing all their own shipping, but I find the shipping out their artwork orders to be kind of soothing and satisfying to watch, the whole ASMR of watching someone get stuff done is very soothing and satisfying.
    I personally would prefer to start a relationship with a professional local printer company or two or three if you want to make sure you're going with the one that gives you the best customer service and most accurate and detailed prints, bonus if they take care of the packaging, shipping labels and shipping for you, definitely get some quotes like how much to ship out 1, 10, 25, 100 giclee prints to different addresses all over the world versus how much to ship to your address if you wanted to maybe do the packaging, shipping labels and shipping yourself if this would save you many dollars.
    P.S. Kelsey, if you decide to do another video to deep dive print shops, and maybe a part 2 video to get more detailed into the packaging, shipping all the things, that would be something to put a poll out for maybe to see how many are interested in hearing your weigh in on your experience in those areas, maybe shed some light on the little known details, if that's something you'd like to share.

  • @drawrobot
    @drawrobot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most copy shops it's a crap shoot. They don't always have the latest and greatest scanners. Also they may have been trained wrong. This unfortunately happens. 9 times out of ten, they're getting photos to scan. Not original art. Sounds to me like this person only did what one would do for photos, not art, because that's all they know to do. If it's a 24/7 operation , this might have been done by someone else entirely. On a different shift.
    For color anything, I scan at 600 dpi. Most printers 400 dpi is more than enough for scanning.

  • @selenaramos4650
    @selenaramos4650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so now that you have these quality scans- who is printing them? like are you personally printing them? Or having them printed from a different facility?

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get my prints done at FinerWorks!

  • @susurakocy_art
    @susurakocy_art 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so sorry, but I must ask, did you check how the bad boy scanner hold against watercolor pieces? - just interested for the future when updating my equipment

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t do much watercolor so I haven’t yet, no!

  • @adelpheInconnue
    @adelpheInconnue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m realy sorry for you Kelsey! I’m in France and I’m curious: how much does such a professional service cost for scanning one painting in the USA?

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      scanning/photography can cost anywhere from $15-80 per piece in my experience!!

  • @staraholic23
    @staraholic23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kid you not, I was like "naaahh it can't be thaaaat different!" and then you show his version vs yours.... WHAT THE ACTUAL H3LL ???!!!! It's like night and day!!!

  • @ljc.youtube
    @ljc.youtube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sorry that happened to you, it sounds like he probably does not know enough about what he's doing to even know that he is plundering innocent people. If he deviates from what is promised in writing versus what he delivers you may still need to get your money back.

  • @CricketsBay
    @CricketsBay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great warning about vetting a business before jumping in and paying them for a service. And bonus, possibly a new income stream for you scanning other people's art for them?

  • @lastdays9163
    @lastdays9163 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You cannot complain if you don't layout your expectations... including researching what kind of scanners they use.

  • @huntshutch7541
    @huntshutch7541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I mean if you werent happy with his results, you could just open up your own scanning store so that others dont deal with having limited options. Im sure 'Caine' probably believed that he had good stuff, because 'professional' quality just means that hes been paid lmao

  • @CEO_FADeD
    @CEO_FADeD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usually the "professional" way is a completely lit photoshoot, like a model sitting on a stool. The picture used for printing would be head on with a tripod and full bright lighting just enough to NOT reflect off gloss. You made a great purchase for indie scanning/digitizing, but you're probably going to continue getting some glare spots from the light being so close. Just food for thought since that scanner is two times my mortgage LOL

  • @TheANDROIDDAB
    @TheANDROIDDAB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha! When you put his scan up, I looked it up and down and was like “okay, I’m ready! Show me your scan!” Before your scan even finished fading in I was like, “welp, yeah that’s a fuck ton better! Like… night and day is almost too generous of a term!” Haha. I’m glad you got this situated, and while it sucks, it’s one of those life lessons. Fate was like, “let’s give her this bad scan so that she can see that she can totally do better herself!” 💪🏾

  • @Emilysartjourney
    @Emilysartjourney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been running into this issue so much. I still haven't found a reputable place in my area to get scans of my artwork done. I am beyond frustrated. Would you be willing to share what company you're using to get prints made? I would love to get that scanner. Someday. 😍 Thank you as always for sharing.

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m using FinerWorks!

    • @Emilysartjourney
      @Emilysartjourney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @KelseyRodriguez Thank you so much!!😍

  • @AllMediaReviewsPodcast
    @AllMediaReviewsPodcast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sorry this happened to you. I do think the lesson here is getting some samples before you agree to have someone do something. I.e. before you pay, depending on the rate.
    Although this guy may feel he does professional work, but he may be naive to the level that most consider "professional."
    Then again, it could have been he decided to half-ass your stuff, or he does more professional work for other kinds of scans? I dunno. I still would want samples before paying or some kind of money-back guarantee in writing,

  • @amandak1360
    @amandak1360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is super handy info as I'm in the process of finishing artworks ready for reproduction ❤

  • @artzpops
    @artzpops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats horible...but i'm glad you got a great scanner. I came close to falling for a scam on deviant art recently but wised up when they start asking for personal info. Not the same as what you went through but i get it...i understand. Hope you sell tons of art now!

  • @nostromza3433
    @nostromza3433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job to the scammers who scammed the talking head

  • @daniellemillerart
    @daniellemillerart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait a professional scanned and oil painting and then went on to complain about scanning an oil painting...something you don't do and he should've known better? Yeah that's not professional.
    What you do is go outside in direct sunlight. Painting on ground and be careful to be as straight down as possible without casting your shadow. Then using your phone or a dslr (either will work just fine) take pictures of your painting in sections. This might mean quadrants for a smaller painting or more for a larger painting.
    Then put them all in photoshop and stitch together using the same tool you'd use for panoramas.
    - ctrl j to duplicate for safety
    - 50% grey layer and do a high pass filter
    - set layer effect on the grey layer to off the top of my head soft light or overlay but you'll want to just go through all the options
    - then gaussian blur at like 1% (really really low). This seems superfluous but it's important at smaller sizings so your picture doesn't look too noisy
    every professional knows how to do this, it's basic, and the normal practice for oil paintings since you....really shouldn't be scanning them. Him not telling you "you shouldn't be scanning oil paintings but here's what you do and once you get that done either you can bring the images to me for the photoshop part or come back with the finished image for prints" is unprofessional.

  • @Bellamarcella1212
    @Bellamarcella1212 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s always hard to spend hard earned money on substandard work. That’s just awful.😮 Your new scanner sounds amazing!

  • @The_Open_Book
    @The_Open_Book 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The betrayal is fucking biblical" 😂 fair tho lol

  • @fuzzydragons
    @fuzzydragons 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want one of those scanners so bad (had one at uni to use), but ouch at the price. I really cant justify it. Especially if we want to go on vacation even for a few days this year lol (i need a holiday!!)
    oooh a scanner attached to a toaster could be handy for a quick snack 🤪

  • @CartoonJessie
    @CartoonJessie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sorry you got ripped off! May I ask how much you pay for such a scan then? (feel free to give an average) I have no idea what it costs. (I wouldn't pay more than 10 dollars or so lol. After all it's just a quick scan right?)
    Your scanner looks AMAZEBALLS! Hope you get a lot of good use out of it! Also, how about sending him an email and comparing your own scan to the one he did and asking him why his quality is so much worse than yours? (Maybe not as agressively as I'm wording it.) But I think it might be good just informing him that he needs to up his game.

    • @KelseyRodriguez
      @KelseyRodriguez  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not a bad suggestion at all! I might do that!

  • @aperplexingpuzzle6157
    @aperplexingpuzzle6157 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this isn't the point of the video, but stalagmites grow from the ground because you *might* trip over them 😁 Stalactites have to hold on *tight* to the ceiling.