Project CARS vs Assetto Corsa: physics overview (1)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2016
  • After a while coming back and forth between these games and struggling with every transition I´m in a good position explain the key differences between them.
    While the differences might not be as blatant as with games like F1 ´16, and nothing too outrageous stands out in any of them, there´s still plenty of stuff that doesn´t work the same way... and that´s stuff you will need to consider as you switch disc.
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  • @ElevateConcepts
    @ElevateConcepts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dude, I love listening to you talk! It's like listening to English being spoken in Italian; awesome job!
    BTW: I understood every single word you said, don't listen to those who can't understand you. You did a great job.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the kind words mate! That´s probably part of the problem, I keep my native (Spanish) rythm and accentuation while trying to talk English, so I guess it´s hard for many to follow it.
      I´ll keep doing my best so everyone gets an easy time to watch, but I can´t promise anything. Cheers!

    • @qitianhu7451
      @qitianhu7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      really? I dont understand at all without sub

  • @kevinacres1699
    @kevinacres1699 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    very good analysis. I have always enjoyed your break down videosI enjoyed hearing you as well. thank you

  • @Lrapsody27
    @Lrapsody27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm from England, and it's absolutely easy to understand you :) great video, very helpful.

  • @mbardos
    @mbardos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, this will cause some pain to some PC fanboys... But your explanation is logical, thanks for making this video!

    • @EricNStuff
      @EricNStuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Marton Bardos I don't understand how this will 'cause pain' to pc fanboys l.

    • @mbardos
      @mbardos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I meant Project Cars, not Personal Computer ;)

    • @JuiceSkyy
      @JuiceSkyy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha ha

    • @JonasRosenven
      @JonasRosenven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fanboys of anything should always be ignored. Their issues are never about the subject they use for their inane ventings. I'm personally not a fan of Pcars as the feel of the cars and the FFB does not make the driving experience enjoyable for me but they both have their place. There are always a plus and minus side to any title. I would for instance love to have Pcars sounds in Assetto corsa just as I would love to have Rfactor2's FFB and feel of the cars. I would also love to have Forza Motorsport's careermode in all of these titles as it is incredibly bland in Assetto, Rfactor and basically any pc game out there. The only exception for me would be GT Legends. That one was quite nice.

    • @azynkron
      @azynkron 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The games that are targeted for PC usually aim for the community. To be honest, they might as well leave out the daft "Career mode" altogether. It doesn't serve any purpose whatsoever. If you want to race, practice and then move on to racing other players. It's the only way to get the real experience considering how stupid and flawed the "AI" is in both AC and PCars.

  • @randomcallsign
    @randomcallsign 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm going to make a video regarding simcade games, and this one will be cited and linked to.
    Almost a year later, I think your video is probably the best one regarding pcars' physics.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +random callsign thanks a lot mate. I played more hours than I like to admit ( 200+) PCARS and by the end I had a good grasp on what exactly felt off when AC finally fell on my hands.

  • @BlueCJ
    @BlueCJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video ever regarding game physics between PCars and AC. Great job you are an expert! :)

  • @cesarjulian6826
    @cesarjulian6826 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    este canal es todo una joya, me gustaba ya antes pero desde que le pones voz es cada vez mejor, ahora a la vez que escuchamos vemos el video prestando atencion, una gran mejora buen trabajo.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cesar Julian Gracias! me alegro de que el cambio haya hecho un poco más fácil seguir los videos, la verdad es que además el micro me ahorra bastante tiempo :-)

  • @dpro1995
    @dpro1995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, and sound quality is now very good. Well done!

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I´m honestly surprised myself at the huge difference between the audio in this one and the stuff I was uploading a couple months ago... and having to use English daily at work is helping too haha!!

  • @PilotoZ
    @PilotoZ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the very good analysis! Finally an explanation on 'why'!

  • @DYNB
    @DYNB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an excellent and informative video, great job

  • @bangboats3557
    @bangboats3557 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, you have nailed the explanations. For me the difference is, the workload in the cockpit is the same in AC as when I raced a real Escort 1600RS. I find myself talking to myself the same way I used to: watching, analysing, thinking out loud. Head has to be really in the game in AC, focus and concentration have to be more precise , you have to be planning out ahead of the car, where as PCars is more forgiving. In AC I am having to be smoother, easy on the control inputs, look after the tyres, modulating my braking, but while it is less forgiving it is also more rewarding when I get it right. I still like both - one for fun and one for when I want to get a bit more serious. ps: I use a gamepad for both.

  • @dronia1590
    @dronia1590 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone explained this with details, thanks dude

  • @svenvangent754
    @svenvangent754 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you , as always well explained

  • @p1nkp4nther
    @p1nkp4nther 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your always great videos!
    Apart from the points you mentioned, the thing which I find the most strange in pCars is the dynamic grip level, i.e. when you hit a bump, the grip on that wheel temporarily gets insanely high in pCars, opposed to other sims.
    Sometimes the bumps in Nordschleife's Fuchsröhre almost throw me off the track, what I cannot imagine to be realistic.

  • @happydappyman
    @happydappyman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    while I agree AC does these things just a bit better, have you not found the setup options in Pcars? Or is console different than PC? Most of the cars in Pcars default to very strange tire pressures and only 80 or 85% brake pressure. I will definitely lock the tires under braking with that car with the proper brake pressure settings. Also, cold tires in pcars are again affected by the strange default setups. Usually changing the pressure to something a bit more normal will help the 'icy' tires. Although the slippery effect still seems quite exaggerated in pcars.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Project CARS is virtually the same game in all platforms, and all these effects are what I have gathered over time with cars that have already been tuned.

  • @636pavel
    @636pavel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good info sir finaly some one make good Project CARS vs Assetto Corsa video
    btw what app u using for tires info

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just the own game HUD, no external apps.

  • @RX552VBK
    @RX552VBK 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @PutoLargoClips
    @PutoLargoClips 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this video, i think it seem AC has better physics, right? But, Have you tried this things between AC and Project cars 2? i'm thinking about to buy one, and i don't know which choose. Thanks!

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Puto Largo Clips No I haven't bought PCARS2. AC satisfies my needs at the moment, I don't have as much time to play as in the past so I didn't really see the need to get another game. Plus I wasn't going to preorder again after the mess last time...

  • @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
    @albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed listening to it

  • @Allen_lena
    @Allen_lena 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discovered your channel today, great videos.
    What game do you think could be more enjoyable with a controller? Both games look great, but maybe not having a wheel and pedals, assetto won't be as forgiving.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      metaliving None of them was enjoyable with the pad when I tried them, but I could sort of drive in AC, while I found it impossible in PCARS.
      It's probably down to the quality of the presets though, never gave either of them a proper shot.

    • @TheChannel1978
      @TheChannel1978 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Using default pad settings both games were hard to drive but goggling around gave me better pad settings for Pcars that made it drivable. Did not look for AC corse. For some reason GT6 had extremely good default pad settings, they probably spent more time on it overall due to it being such a long standing series.

  • @miva55
    @miva55 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video and analysis! What do you think of PCars 2?

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn´t buy it for many reasons. Main one is that I can barely play anything at all these days. Then I decided not to pre-order after what happened with the first one, and from what I have read I think I made the right call.

  • @irun2sanaxox
    @irun2sanaxox 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Project cars is a really good game I love it and played it for the longest but I think assetto corsa has more accurate physics which I think in my opinion makes for better gameplay but project really is a really good game and I'll always love it cause it's what got me in to actual sim and jus driving in general

  • @MrDOZA28
    @MrDOZA28 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video 👌👍

  • @IlConteSky
    @IlConteSky 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice idea, thanks!

  • @petertimowreef9085
    @petertimowreef9085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Before watching I'm just gonna say: In Project Cars the car does what you tell it to do, in Assetto Corsa you have to ask the car gently to do something, and then it might do it.

    • @megolito961
      @megolito961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yea....thats not true at all. you have to know how to drive to play assetto and command the car to do things. there is a fine balance in every aspect, from trail braking. throttle modulation/ weight transfer/ tire heat/ and aerodynamics. if your terrible and just drive with lead feet and smash the throttle and brake all day while wrenching on the wheel, assetto will punish you for it and expose your terrible habits. Pcars rewards that kind of driving. if you watch the telemetry of Real pros driving. they do it with finesse, not like an ape. I have personally set times with GT3 cars that where in the top 25 of over 100k players. i also have driven a 2012 viper ACR on a racetrack along with a Ferrari FF. neither game portrays it perfectly. but if you drive how you would on Pcars in real life. youll be going home in an ambulance.

    • @qitianhu7451
      @qitianhu7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes and yes,but this is how it works in real world

  • @bmwpower3168
    @bmwpower3168 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey mate i sow you have the renault sport pack ... i try the formula renault and i was like ... it's too easy to make a good lap time on barcelona. But if i compare it to the lotus exo i'm struggling to make a good lap time (default setup) Do you have an explication ? Great vid.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can´t quite follow you. You´re comparing PCARS FR3.5 to AC Exos? I think the Exos S1 is a slightly faster car once you get good with both, you should be getting better laptimes with it.
      They corner pretty much the same as PCARS grip levels are quite crazy, but the Exos S1 has more power. The normal version of the Exos (not S1) is slower than the FR3.5.

    • @bmwpower3168
      @bmwpower3168 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, i am not comparing them but what i want to mean is that the FR 3.5 is more easy to drive ( i'm running in 1:28:281 in barcelona with your setup)
      but with the exo i am struggling to make a good fast lap (without mistake : no steering correction,ect...)
      I don't understand why i can be fast in project cars and why i can't be fast in assetto.
      Thank you mate

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I see. I have to agree it is way harder to drive on the edge these cars in AC, there´s far more stuff happening with the car.
      The only thing that I fell is easier in AC is to recover the car from beyond the limits. I feel like I´m guessing once I lose the rear at PCARS, every slide is a big scare, while I can usually correct small slides with total confidence in AC.
      But yes, it is far more tricky to squeeze the last tenths out of the Exos.

  • @JuiceSkyy
    @JuiceSkyy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting :)

  • @vx220ukct
    @vx220ukct 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a Pcars 2 vs Assetto Corsa ??

  • @yeh.80
    @yeh.80 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get that ui skin?

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean? PCARS telemetry? You just have to cycle the HUD and you´ll eventually get that one. If you mean AC ui, that´s just one of the console build HUD, many seem to like it...

  • @soumen08
    @soumen08 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been driving the KTM Xbow on Imola, using an XBox one controller, and my thinking is that reality is probably somewhere between AC and PCars2. In PCars2, I can be really rough with the controls without any consequences, and this makes it much less fun. I just "know" that the real car probably does not allow you to floor the throttle coming out of a turn. In Assetto Corsa though, the car is almost undriveable. No matter how smoothly I drive, coming out of some turns, the car will have a lateral slip, and it will keep slipping to one direction even with gentle steering input in the other direction. I wonder if it is the controller to blame, because I can drive quite a few other cars quite easily.

  • @thalexisramirez1701
    @thalexisramirez1701 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What game is better for PS4 Asseto Corsa or Project Cars

    • @TheSkyline35
      @TheSkyline35 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends of what you want ! If you don't play multiplayer don't go for AC, but if you have a wheel, like multiplayer racing, go for it.

  • @DaWorstPlaya
    @DaWorstPlaya 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you been racing in real life? How much have you done it? Have you collected tire temperature data using probe type pyrometers?

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you seen anyone score a green sector right after having a spin and doing a burnout to turn around? Have you seen anyone do 35 consecutive seconds of burnout to get ready for a start instead of the usual 4 to 5 half a second burnouts?

    • @DaWorstPlaya
      @DaWorstPlaya 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering if you have been racing in real life or have collected real world data. If so how does it compared with your real life track racing experience?

  • @Pat80s
    @Pat80s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing accent... It seems a bit Scottish! Amazing great video!

  • @DocHalliday
    @DocHalliday 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flash heating and overheat grip levels in PCars were very similar to AC before patch 7. Soft compounds would get hot real quick if you beat them up. It made using the harder compounds completely viable according to track temperature and day/night conditions. People complained, and the devs caved and patched the game. The way the tires worked back then was fantastic.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joseph Halliday I remember about that period, the flash heating was quite fast but the high temperatures didn't hurt too much. But yes, it was better than what we have now! I hope they build up on that for the sequel

  • @dghdh97
    @dghdh97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then can someone please give me a good FFB setup for AC?
    I have a T300RS and have the game on PC.
    I think the FFB is very weak, and it puts me off the game completely.

    • @dghdh97
      @dghdh97 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried uping the FFB in the game to 200, and though it gets heavier I'm just driving around with a constant rumble similar (but worse) than the bug that you (and me) would like fixed in pCARS Dyr_gl PSN.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I for one don´t have that problem, and I´m quite sure the T500 is pretty much the same as the T300. I drive with the FFB at 60 in the game options, with both "road" and "curb" at low levels around 15%. It´s more than powerful enough for me like that.
      Try plugging it to a PC and opening the control center for the wheel or whatever is called and check if the strenght is too low there. If it works fine in other games for you this is unlikely to be a solution.

    • @dghdh97
      @dghdh97 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I've heard and read the T500 is stronger than the T300. Or that it's heavier, which could be the reason why.
      I use 75 on the overall setting in the control center, 100 on everything else except for dampening. In the game I have about everything to 150% is it? Low level at 25% or whatever is the maximum there aswell. Not the gain which still clips at whatever it is, and I stil think the FFB is weak or starts to just wobble like the pCARS bug. And the thing is that I'm not looking for the steering wheel to rip my hands off. I want to fight it, just a little bit, and I don't get that. I'm a small person aswell. Not very powerfull. :P
      In pCARS though I have the option to get thrown out of my chair almost. Which means it can't be the wheel.
      I'll have to try 100% on the overal setting and see how much that could help.
      Thank you anyways.

  • @andreasotto1977
    @andreasotto1977 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's my story.
    I am a XBONE user (started with a used Xbox360). It had been years since I had a PC up to par for gaming (GP4 was the last racing game I played, I guess) and I was happy placing Forza 3, 4 & 5 with the controller. Then i heard of a game called "Project CARS", fell in love with the videos and eagerly waited for the console release (I even ordered the limited steelcase edition).
    Despite the bugs that came with it, I loved the game, even played with controller. Things got even better when I got a Thrustmaster TX wheel.
    At this point I did not understand the fuss about Assetto Corsa. Alongside with rfactor and iRacing, it had some "geeky" appearance towards me: Not really fancy graphics, but praised by enthusiasts.
    The AC videos I got to see totally lacked the graphic-wise sexiness of pCARS - the helmet cam (without visible helmet) with all its motion and blurring effects took me to a level of immersion I had never experienced before. Plus I could not imagine a FFB / car handling better than this.
    Well, the other day I happened to have some credit on my paypal account and got curious, so I bought the digital edition Assetto Corsa for my XBONE.
    And I began to understand.
    I do not know HOW they did it, but the car handling in AC feels even better than in PC. Better in terms of feeling realistic. Realistic in terms of being predictable. AC is the first game ever I actually enjoy driving several laps on the Nordschleife, because it feels to me like a real car would react.
    But still I do miss some things in Assetto Corsa. The UDP telemetry broadcast for instance. And a huge load of controls / FFB settings (deadzone and such), followed by my beloved helmet cam.
    I really wish Kunos and SMS would team up to create THE racing sim thet combines all awesome features of both!

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don't have a wheel go with project cars cause AC is impossible with a controller but PC is playable with a controller

  • @richardgg2889
    @richardgg2889 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice video, but i think if you dont race in real life you couldnt judge these two games. Like you made arguments about hot tyres and locking brakes, but i feel like you dont understand this topic much. Racing cars tyres are normally around 100 degrees celsius, yea 130 is much more, but i feel that overheated tyres in asseto are unrealistic, yea it should be less grippy, but its really like floating on ice even with low speeds, and thats not right. Rest of it i agree, asseto corsa feels better, its easier to slide and yea Pcars has broken FFB. But overall Im suprised, i prefer Pcars over Assetto corsa. My opinion, but overall good video :)

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Richard GG You can pick up A LOT watching motorsport enough. Drivers don't come back from a huge spin and start doing their normal pace straight away, so we know overheated tyres hurt. They lose a lot of pace when They complain about blistering too.
      As for the brakes, pedal cams and graphics with pedal inputs have been a thing for like 10 years now. We know how they use their brakes.

    • @richardgg2889
      @richardgg2889 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem with that, i like hearing some feedback, i agree with pedals, brakes, but the overheated tyres i think its somewhere in between, i know that when you are racing, not sliding or locking up the brakes much, its pretty hard to overheat the tyres with few lock ups, and when you do few, it doesnt heat up that much. I think that proper opinion on that will be, that the reality is somewhere in between this two games in temrs of heating up tyres.

    • @happydappyman
      @happydappyman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man, you mention pcars broken FFB. I just wanna spread the word anywhere I can.
      Have you tried Jack Spades FFB files and setup? Totally fixed the ffb for me, where I found it almost unplayable out of the box. Since I got the new settings, I've actually been playing pcars a lot more than AC

    • @alexandrebrito1414
      @alexandrebrito1414 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think his analysis is true. I follow motorsport a lot. It took me a while to understand anything about tyres, damn little buggers have a weird and complex behavior. BUT, overall what i learned is that they have the ideal temperature for optimal grip, altho that is kind of obvious looking the weaving they do to warm up the tyres, it is kind "hard" to absorb. One thing i found particularly hard to learn in AC was about the cold tyres, it seamed to me that the cold tyres should affect more the loss of grip, if you want an example of what i mean, watch any DTM race from this year, after they change tyres this new tyres have to be cold, so the driver needs to work the temperature up all over again. Now, i saw the effect that did to the cars, i saw people understeering wildly in the gravel because of that. I didn't saw that effect in AC. But, all and all, i think it is not all that catastrophic as in PC.

    • @megolito961
      @megolito961 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey man, with all respect to your opinion. ive driven multiple hard laps in a GT4 spec mustang at waterford racetrack in michigan, along with a 2012 viper str10 ACR and ill tell you first hand. well first off neither had carbon brakes so i cant give you an opinion on those. but as far as slicks go when over heated they behave much more like assetto portrays, i had the tires on the mustang so hot they where literally melting. the best analogy i can give you is imagine your rear tires are all the sudden a melting Popsicle, not only can they spin out in low speed corners. but the brake biased is so far forward that when i stepped on the brakes the rear tires would come out a bit because they where so hot. they do not function at all. and even after they cooled down they deemed them to dangerous to use again, google some photos of overheated tires man, they literally start boiling. also check out the mustang i drove. it was a ford sponsored event and i work for them. its a really cool car based off the GT350. type in mustang GT4 and itll be a gray color

  • @MrEnagee
    @MrEnagee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video....be good to use like for like tracks and cars for comparisons .

  • @misuotto
    @misuotto 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    En el primer segundo sabia que eras español jaja buen video

  • @SimRacersAsia
    @SimRacersAsia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i assume this is the PC version?

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      SimRacersAsia They're identical regarding driving experience. Consoles just get the updates later.

  • @nerdland3968
    @nerdland3968 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    En assetto corsa faltan cosa importantes que de otra parte encontramos en project cars: mas circuitos, campeonatos con puntos y una carrera mas cercana a la realidad (basada sobre los contractos y las escuderías)

  • @Tony-1971
    @Tony-1971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Assetto corsa with cars on street tyres or semi slicks feels like racing on ice. Absolutely no build up or sensation of low speed grip at all. Thats why you see so many people play Assetto and you see them under steering the hell out of every corner. The tyre model is more realistic in project cars. I feel the connection between the tyre and the track surface. I dont feel that at all in Assetto corsa. No grip limits building and breaking. You enter a corner and it looks like youre travelling at 10mph but then you look at the speedometer and it says youre actually doing 90mph. Thats why it takes 50 laps of a track before youre actually in tune with the driving in Assetto corsa. Project cars feels more instantly natural to me.
    In Assetto corsa i struggle like hell to feel or find any grip from the tyres at all. Slow right down for a slow corner, into second gear and im just struggling to find any grip from the tyres at all.

    • @alb639
      @alb639 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I respect your opinion. Personally, I only have experience with AC - I haven't played pCars yet, so I can't speak intelligently on pC's tires. Assetto Corsa, however, is usually praised for their street cars & tires much more than their racing vehicles/tires. I agree that there are many, many people who understeer like crazy in their AC videos. My belief is that they're just carrying a bit too much speed into the corner.
      There is one area that I personally believe AC needs to really improve, with respect to their tire model. That is with the heating aspect of their tires. Now, I might be completely wrong as I'm not a physicist, but it seems like it's very hard and sometimes impossible to get harder compound tires (and sometimes even semislicks or Medium racing slicks) up to optimal operating temperature and stay within that range for an entire lap. The tires seem to cool down awfully fast. I think that might also contribute to some of the understeering. Cold tires don't grip nearly as well as warm/heated tires.
      In the end, I always recommend people to play what they enjoy most. From what I know, pCars is a great game. In fact, they do many things better than AC (especially when it comes to racing). I don't know why some people feel the need to choose a side. The more great sims the better for us players!
      Good post.

    • @MT--WesleyCrumblebee
      @MT--WesleyCrumblebee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have and play both AC and pCARS, and I can say that the understeering on the street cars is due to stock set up of cam and toe. If you know how these things affect steering, you can easily tweak them to a more agreeable turn in. By default, street cars er more toward understeering as it increases braking stability.

    • @richardgg2889
      @richardgg2889 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea project cars is easilly better in this, AC is insanely inaccurate in some situations, i have expirienced a lot of spins on track when i had tyres heated properly and if i stopped, and then gently acceleratet car just spinned of full 360 degrees of rotation even if i only touched gas gently at the begining. Pcars should maybe reproduce hot tyres better and oversteer shoul be a bit less snappy, but AC is arcadish in my opinion, even drifting with all assists of is really easy and the AC FFB only tells you what back of the car is doing(for drifting obviosly). For me, Pcars is a better game.

    • @MT--WesleyCrumblebee
      @MT--WesleyCrumblebee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard GG AC only ever spins like that for myeonce I have severely overcooked the tyres. The tyre simulation in AC is widely regarded as far superior to pCARS.

    • @richardgg2889
      @richardgg2889 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      M Turtle I tell you that tyres were not cooked, atleast in 1.5 version of the game, it was retarded, and even if you think about it if it was cooked it wouldnt spin like hell in real life, cause when you are in stationary position and gently touch the gas it shouldnt spin like hell. AC has some physics advantages over PC, but you cant say its real...

  • @FRob911
    @FRob911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought both and play both, that's it!

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wise approach. None is a complete package so depending on what you look for you can always find satisfying things in both. I think Assetto is superior behind the wheel by a margin but keep coming to PCARS sometimes to find stuff I can´t do in AC.

  • @1freddy1b
    @1freddy1b 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    have you tried iracing?? some say its the best in terms of being a race sim...

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, if I make the jump to PC I fancy way more rF2 and Automobilista.

    • @GDUBMX
      @GDUBMX 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fred ogega there is no competition between assetto and project cars in terms of physics, AC is way better. As for iracing, Rf2 is probably the king of sims on pc and Automobilista is a close 2nd. I've put over 200 hours on Automobilista! Iracing is OK if you are a nascar fan boy hahaha

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GDUB Mx Or if you want to race online at any time ;-) The thing might not be the most realistic and the pricing might be insane, but you got to give them the parts they got right.
      I´m mad no one else has managed to copy and improve their online structure yet :-(

    • @JonasRosenven
      @JonasRosenven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tried Iracing, Assetto Corsa And Rfactor 2. Disregarding the cost of these titles I would say that Iracing is the one that handles the online racing part the best. In terms of how the cars feel - not looks or sounds - I have never had as great an experience as driving the Corvette on longford in Rfactor2. The forcefeedback and the way the cars feel overall I have never tried anything like it. I love Assetto Corsa and have over 1400 hours in that game but it feels so numb playing it after playing Rfactor2. I mostly play Assetto Corsa though because of the great street cars which I prefer over gt and open wheel cars. It's all subjective. One might like one over the other. My perfect game would be Assetto Corsa with Rfactor2 FFB and car feel and Iracing's online racing. I love them all in their own way.

  • @WilXuH
    @WilXuH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good comparison thx, ac is so punishing 😂

  • @toddsimone7182
    @toddsimone7182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I get what you're doing and all but you're making every comparison assuming Assetto Corsa is right and Project CARS is wrong. How do you know?

    • @UrbanChaos20
      @UrbanChaos20 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +daddaflex How the fuck would you know? Clearly you're just another Assetto Corsa fangirl

  • @jamesavery6671
    @jamesavery6671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got some time in assetto now. The game is great but I am quite a bit slower on it. Monza for example I was doing a 1:48 in p cars but in assetto I do a 1:51 with just basic setup changes and I hit my lines the same in both games for the most part. Just seems like the cars themselves are slower (realistically or not) but assetto feels very smooth and is a pure joy

  • @magzire
    @magzire 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "lets go deep" i like his style

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You don´t get better chances than this to use the Lenny face...
      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @christopherherr7561
    @christopherherr7561 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll admit at first I thought it was Italian but I do understand

  • @cyborg6666666
    @cyborg6666666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i prefer project cars seems more polished to me

    • @SizzlingStu
      @SizzlingStu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree, can't put my finger on it but its just more enjoyable to me

  • @azynkron
    @azynkron 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately they have moved on to PCars 2 now. I don't think we can expect them to squeeze out more stuff and fixes for PCars considering how they have treated us.
    I was on the funding scheme for it and for the first year or so it all looked good. Soon though it started to show that most of the stuff was just bling-bling and they even started to pitch PCars 2 BEFORE the first game was finished. The best evidence of it was that last DLC that was just a slap in the face.
    Furthermore, AC has mod support where as PCars follow the same route as the big AAA companies and deny us that feature (probably since they think it will reduce revenue). Incredibly stupid if you ask me since it's the best way to keep the community alive and interested. In my opinion, they could just have left out the stray cars (e.i. 1 car in a class) and just gone with the series where you can build a full field. I have plenty more stuff to complain about (e.g. not to be able to select a class when you look for a car, like just filtering on GT3) and still some serious bugs on some tracks and in the physics.
    But I won't. I will not support PCars 2.

  • @aspecreviews
    @aspecreviews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:01 I light up the rears like nobody else...

  • @fyte4luv23
    @fyte4luv23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this maybe true if u r not using cv1 + 3dof motion... but if u do have them, PCars has the most immersive feel. it beats ACorsa, iRacing, rFactor n RaceRoom.. i also had 11 other ppl try them on different occasions & every single one of them voted for Pcars when using cv1 + motion seat.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That stuff just change the way feedback is thrown at you, doesn´t change one bit the underlaying simulation. I bet people have much more fun playing but it´s still the same game isn´t it...

    • @fyte4luv23
      @fyte4luv23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dyr_gl PSN
      when the feedback is thrown at u, that is simulation in itself & cv1 + motion changes the immersion, hence magnifying the simulation.. it's not complicated. of course it doesn't change the game, but once u play using the rift, then the simulation changes compared to playing on tv/pc monitor. anyone who tried dk2/cv1/vibe would tell u that it "feels" different from playing without it, the immersion gets intensified when u add motion seat.. look up the word simulation if u need anymore help understanding.. im done here.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don´t think you get my point. Sure, you avoid having to use stupid D-pad arrows to look around. Sure, your spacial awaraness go up. Sure, you´ll have a blast playing it the first times.
      But it´s still the same game. At no point the subject of these videos is compatibility with techno gizmos, it´s all about how cars react to stuff. That doesn´t change with different hardware.
      BTW Enjoy your VR stuff mate :-)!

  • @RJW14
    @RJW14 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbh if the tires get -that- hot with that low pressure you should just start a tenth or 2 harder in pressure on cold tires :) But that's talking real life experience.

  • @DKSimulationGaming
    @DKSimulationGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AC is the best sim on consoles.

  • @nerdland3968
    @nerdland3968 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Si saliera un DLC con ferrari y lamborghini, Project Cars sería el simulador perfecto!

  • @nerdland3968
    @nerdland3968 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hola he visto tu comparación entre estes juegos. Pienso che assetto corsa es un poco mas difícil y real, sobretodo las frenadas resultan mas complicadas y tienes que manejar muy bien la fuerza.

  • @user-fn1tb4ij9e
    @user-fn1tb4ij9e 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eres español?

  • @JonahHax
    @JonahHax 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand some of the words. But not enough to make any sense unfortunately.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That´s what subtitles are there for, so you guys can overcome my accent ;-)

  • @DiegoMolas
    @DiegoMolas 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Algún video en español estaría bien... voy a suscribirme a ver si algún día le haces honor a tu lengua nativa. Saludos!

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      La idea es llegar a cuanta más gente mejor. La comunidad de sim racing ya es bastante pequeña como para dejar que el idioma sea una barrera más! Cualquier cosa con la que pueda ayudar en castellano pregunta aquí sin problema :-)
      Llevo bastante tiempo fuera de juego, es verano así que no esperaría subidas por un par de meses. Saludos!

  • @loen6478
    @loen6478 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    El buen handicap del Español

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anda, que tú también lo has notao... :-)

  • @PandorusFightStick
    @PandorusFightStick 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    project cars us better that AC on ps4 but I have been told AC is better on pc

    • @richardgg2889
      @richardgg2889 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that possible, i know that Pcars on PS has some features like some racers voice from pit, but different physics between Pc and console?

  • @AC6PILOT
    @AC6PILOT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the graphics on Project Cars is so much better, but Assetto is way easier for noobs..

    • @BASHERSKINZ
      @BASHERSKINZ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, Project Cars is far too easy, it's more simcade than a simulation, Assetto is so much more realistic in it's handling, some of the cars in PCars feel like a Need4Speed game

    • @j-psalmi8039
      @j-psalmi8039 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The oversteer feels way better in AC. PC has this on-off feel to it. Either you have grip or you slide

  • @silentWolf334
    @silentWolf334 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So project cars is just a shit game :/ ?

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, it just doesn´t drive as well. At the moment is a far better product overall though, AC misses pretty much everything except the driving.

    • @marconico
      @marconico 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dyr_gl PSN That's the important thing for me. also woth noting Pcars is done and dusted. AC getting better and better with new features announced soon.

  • @Dornpunzel
    @Dornpunzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dude its so freaking hard to understand your accent. Please work on that.

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dornpunzel That's like asking me to grow 10 cm. I try to add subtitles for all my videos but I'm behind schedule with that, they will come eventually.

    • @Dornpunzel
      @Dornpunzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure if one of these things MAY be easier to achieve. :P

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dornpunzel I suspect we're about to drift dangerously off-topic here LOL. So I'll just say I have managed to publish subtitles already for this one. Hope it makes your life easier with this video!

    • @Dornpunzel
      @Dornpunzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D
      Me and millions of other viewers. Thx, mate. :)

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dornpunzel Millions? Haha good one! You're welcome mate

  • @ferfire9
    @ferfire9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's not even a comparison possible, AC demolishes PC in all aspects about driving experience, driving realism, etc. Even graphics i would say look better and more realistic in AC( on pc ofcourse) than in PC which are very cartoonish. Sounds are much better on AC, much more realistic, ffb completely destroys PC. Like i said, there's not even comparison, if you like cars in real life, you go and buy AC imediatly. If u are just a normal gamer, who wants to spend your time the easier way and dont care about cars that much, just go and buy project cars.

  • @samche11
    @samche11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's the roughest "English" I've ever heard. Have to try extra hard to understand you, so maybe you could try on your part. Don't give us excuses, if my 12 year old croatian nephew can talk perfect English fluently, you can soften yours just a little!

    • @dyr_glpsn4209
      @dyr_glpsn4209  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good for your nephew and the Croatian educational system!
      I´m afraid this is the best I can do, it seems to be enough to communicate with flight crews from all over the World and coordinate the turnaround of airliners, so by my calculations it should be OK for a youtube channel too!

    • @Washington94500
      @Washington94500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's so ugly to complain about an accent... come on. go fuck yourself

    • @samche11
      @samche11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Washington94500 you hypocrite. I was complaining because it is hard to understand. And I don't buy the "I can't do better", the truth is he's deliberately speaking that way. .I'm not a native English speaker either and could easily speak with that "accent" of his. But I'm not because I have respect for the listener and it's REALLY EASY to adjust and improve the way you sound.

    • @rubengalvez6261
      @rubengalvez6261 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I´m Hungarian and I understand every word. I think YOUR English is shit if you have issues following this video to be honest.

    • @Hells_Gift_MB
      @Hells_Gift_MB 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      toxic fan exactly!

  • @_xndrzt
    @_xndrzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    still, AC looks shit with his 2008 graphic...