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just imagine the last fight with the hand of atriox vs spartan lock ,jerome ,arbiter and master chief and in their last show dawn it would be fist fight between master chief and atriox what do you think it is a bad idea or not?
By the way that's actually bullshit & they did the Master Chief dirty in Halo Infinite because no beats Master Chief is not only a legend but the best Spartan 2 warrior & he is basically immortal & unbeatable! 😤🪖⚡️💯
@@ZK9931Agreed & by the way I also know that Lock is alive just got his Spartan armor ripped off him awhile battling the a Banished Brute Chieftain but he was a coward Brute & his own Brute says it in gameplay in Halo Infinite I also like Locke especially with his Halo Spartan Hunter armor & also would like to that Grand final War Battle against the Banished & all the UNSC Spirit of Fire Captain Cutter,Sgt.John Forge,Marines,Red Team Jerome,Douglas,Alice,Spartan Team Omega,Noble Six,Master Chief & Blue Five Spartan Team including Samuel,Captain Keyes,Major Johnson,Marines from Halo Combat Evolved,Fire Team Raven,Halo ODST 3 Alpha Nine,Team Majestic,Osiris Team! 🪖💯
It's the Master Chief curse. Every ship Chief sets foot on gets destroyed. Notice how how well the Spirit of Fire did against the Banished even though it's a much older ship... Also Cutter is just a much better captain than Lasky too.
To be fair, the Spirit of Fire only fought against a single ship of the banished who were as an expeditionary force on the ark and was also more cautious in its attacks since it was their only means of leaving the ark.
I don't think she was destroyed, I remember somewhere it was mentioned that she did an emergency jump once all hands abandoned ship. It was either in a book or one of the audio logs. So if that's true, Roland and the Infinity are out there somewhere. Just gotta ask ourselves when 343 plans on bringing her back.
Hero ships in Halo never last more than a game or two, the Infinity lasted three which is the longest, even surpassing the Spirit of Fire, but the moment that sucker was introduced and the Chief stepped on it, its fate was sealed.
Let me explain why the Infinity lost in 4mins. Firstly, who is the luckiest Spartan? Its Chief! And where does he get all his luck? Every time he boards a damn ship he absorbs the ships luck. Once all the luck is absorbed, any ship will get ambushed, boarded and die. The reason why the Infinity lasted this long also has an obvious answer too. It was a new ship and the largest yet. Chief needed time to absorb all that luck. 😂
Isn’t that kind of like domino from Deadpool 2? She isn’t extremely lucky, she just absorbs all the luck from everyone around her so they die and she keeps going lol
Thats not the point. The point is they made that situatiom so infinity will 100% lose. Because they want that story. Its not about what the hell they throw at it. It will survive the flood and forerunner if the story is written that it survives it so.@@user-hj4hg5cy6g
My current opinion is that The Infinity was just in a fight with a guardian (the one you can see in the campaign world), so it had all its shield power focused toward the front of the ship. This is why the banished dreadnoughts were able to do so much damage to the sides of the ship. I think Atriox knew his forces were no match against a guardian, which is why he waited til after the Infinity destroyed it to attack at full force.
Its crazy that Atriox was able to quickly destroy one of the most advanced human ships ever in a matter of minutes but was struggling to destroy an out of date colony ship that was literally run by a skeleton crew
The opening of Infinite happens way too fast. This should have been the opening mission instead of that Banished ship. Atriox definitely should have been the main antagonist not his hype man or the Harbinger. You have the guy defeat the Chief but don't do anything with it. This campaign has serious problems as little makes sense and opportunities were missed at every turn. Like for example The Chief meeting the Weapon for the first time and especially with Cortona's second death. 343 never knew what the hell they were doing with her.
Plus as a Spartan II, Chief's fight should not have been so clumsly, Atriox is definitely an imposing and skilled fighter, but why did Chief have so many dumb moments in a few seconds
"not his hype man".... I'd argue that Escherum was CHIEF'S hype man, lol. He was clearly obsessed with him and regaining his honor by fighting one last glorious battle before he went out due to his sickness.
Great question! Chief was assisted by Fireteam Taurus during the battle on the Infinity, with their leader being Spartan Griffin, who unfortunately dies in Halo Infinite. It's a shame there were hardly any spartans on the Infinity at the time.
@@FootedGhost wasn't blue team on board? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that was mentioned in Rubicon Protocol. It's crazy to me that we never really see or hear anything of them in halo infinite
The only thing 343 did wrong here was not showing us the ambush entirely. It was only 4 minutes after all. Watching Cheif, Laskey, Palmer, and the rest of the crew reacting to the Banished for the first time and frantically trying to fight them off would have been really cool.
The fact halo infinite takes place 6 months after the ambush is just terrible writing. Sure SOB the fact chief somehow survived 6 months of void exposure. Brohammer survived hiding in a pelican. There is no reason why any of the marines are alive or even well equipped as they are after 6 months. They would have been hunted down for sport to the last by month 2 especially when that last outpost got overrun
The game taking place later isn't terrible writing. In theory the way the game opens is good. But we really should have seen the whole story in flashback throughout the game. @ReaperofValhalla
@@alexlyster3459 I’m not saying it _Being_ later after the initial battle is terrible writing. The game _Starting_ later is what is terrible. Sure we get some environmental story telling like that one marine being locked in a cage with a single bullet but because of the models that could have happen just an hour before chief shows up or a week after the battle. having a cave with a bunch of dead marines that leads to a forerunner armory that hasn’t been looted, makes no sense when the banish are scavengers but I digress. It leaves so much to the imagination that it doesn’t really trigger it. Like SCPs that ink out most of their articles. Instead of us experiencing these supposed tales they just leave some dead marines and maybe a voice recording. It could have been a recreation and a more interactive version of Halo CE if they wanted a fresh start with the created being the new unknown and maybe the flood coming back like a cancer but no. It all happens off screen
Also if we look closely you can see a fallen guardian in the back of the infinite campaign map which might mean that infinite fought a guardian and won but was damaged and had no shields then the banished took advantage and finished it off
One thing we know about the Banished Dreadnaughts that ambushed the Infinity is that the front of the ships have giant gravity weapons that give off the same effect as the gravity hammer when they collide with something, meaning theses ships are literally giant multi-million tonne Gravity Hammers, another thing we know is that they were built as lifeboats for the Brute species (literally the same reason the Infinity was built for Humanity) meaning Escharum was lying when he said that loosing one of these ships meant nothing.
I just realised that the way atriox throws master chief of the infinity is the same or very similar to the way jorge throws six of off the covenant ship
I think what they mean is that it only took 4 minutes before Lasky ordered to Abandon ship. The banished flooded into the ship almost imediatly, so there was really no point to try and defend it with only a fraction of the crew on board.
They shouldve opened before the ambush then start the game as it happens. Fight your way to the bridge to get Lasky and prep Roland for emergency jump once evacuees are gone. Have Palmer, some Spartan 4s, ODSTs and Marines fight alongside you. Once you get to the flight deck and get Lasky and Palmer on a pelican youre grabbed by Atriox prompting the cutscene we see of Chief getting beat.
@aliabdallah102 tell that to master chief then. When in verse he's said to have probability bending luck. Cortana said this in the halo book first strike while aboard the ascendant justice. Luck is real in the verse. Also yes luck does exist here. How did my friend come out of a car crash with no injuries. He skidded off the road and into a tree then rolled over. He came out with no injuries whatsoever. Explain that.
@lTheOfficialJesusChristChannel Brutes are stronger than spartans and tankier. Also atiox could have like 70 years of experience to got with it and he also has power armor. Also Chief was probably concussed after the first hit which made him fight slow.
I do wonder if the infinity is completely totalled or is still some what holding together some where. BTW you know the Helldivers at home map, some of my prefab are in it , with the most prominent being the right research site in the middle of the camp and the command tower in the distance at the end .
I 100% think she's not completely destroyed, and more likely crashed onto the surface of the ring. I'm hoping we see it (even if destroyed) and Captain Lasky again in the next game. Oh wow good stuff bro, I'll need to check that out!! :)
Yeah your probably right, I still think they have kept it intentionally vague like what they have done with Locke. Also it is so bloody cool that some of my prefab are in something so many people have played, I only hope to see more people use them to help with their maps.
The UNSC had ONE ship of this caliber and it was dwarfed by a single Covenant Supercarrier (~6km in length vs. ~30km in length). That's like the Empire in Star Wars having ONE Imperial Star Destroyer while their enemy has fleets comprised of Super Star Destroyers and Death Stars.
One thing we know about the Banished Dreadnaughts that ambushed the Infinity is that the front of the ships have giant gravity weapons that give off the same effect as the gravity hammer when they collide with something, meaning theses ships are literally giant multi-million tonne Gravity Hammers, another thing we know is that they were built as lifeboats for the Brute species (literally the same reason the Infinity was built for Humanity) meaning Escharum was lying when he said that loosing one of these ships meant nothing.
Yeah if Blue team was there, things might have gone down differently. It's worth mentioning that Chief had some Spartan IVs with him on the Infinity, and we see some of them during Halo Infinite like Spartan Griffin.
@FootedGhost the problem is, atriox and his augmentation FAR outpace that of spartan 4s. So really, all they could have done is provide fire support. But in CQC they would have risked injuring or worse, killing the chief even WITH spartan time. Edit: we know this BTW because atriox was a 1-1 match with the chief... and the chief would ABSOLUTELY STOMP a spartan 3 or 4 in fisticuffs
@@Angels-Playground most spartan 3s are comparable to IIs in physical statistics with some spartan iiis having feats comparable to the best and brightest of the iis all whilst using SPI instead of mjolnir
@superk9letsplays419 that isn't true. Spartan 2s recieved substantially more potent augmentations and armor. The armor is an integral part of the Spartans physical capabilities as its the force amplifier. So clearly you don't know as much as you'd like to about the halo universe
Such a massive missed opportunity to have the Infinity crashed on the map that would’ve been a spiritual successor to the Pillar of Autumn from Halo CE.
Reasonable explanation as to why they lost they where undermanned and went in not expecting the banished to jump them We also know the banished had a guardian killer weapon that they could of shot at infinity disabling it Personally I’m fine with them destroying the ship sets the tone of the game but the first mission should of been on the infinity
they had a guardian killing weapon? WTF?!! where and how the hell did they get that, the game should've been about that and taking down cortana and atriox!
@@ghostlyswat12and im saying it should've been in the game! honestly the fact infinite skips so much of the important stuff pisses me off, it's actually worse than 5 in this regard.
I like how parred down the UNSC is. Like, at this point there are 10 or so Autumn class heavy cruisers (think Pillar of Autumn, but they have potent shields). Even just those 10 ships with frigate escort would tear the Banished navy apart. The damn things could go five on one and still win. Not to mind the dozens of orbital platforms, several dozen active Spartans, 20 Marathon heavy cruisers, millions of soldiers, tens of thousands of fighters, and individual nuclear weapons strong enough to knock out a planet. Even after The Didact and Cortana (neither of which caused much in the way of naval casualties, considering the damage they did in general) the Banished are just plot armor right now. They're trying to make them this ungodly huge threat, but they have nowhere NEAR the capabilities of the Covenant. So it just falls flat.
First the Pillar of Autumn, then the In Amber Clad, then the Forward Unto Dawn, and now possibly the Infinity. Bungie and 343 beat the “destroy the main ship you get attached to” trope like a dead horse.
The way Chief describes his defeat against Atriox wasn't simple: "He beat me really badly." He went full detail, someone who's never lost a fight, their first loss will always be a reminder for them and will haunt them, I have a feeling it may come back to haunt Chief when he confront Atriox or somewhere during the campaign in the new Halo game.
Well when you put it like that, yeah a colony ship playing cat and mouse with with one dreadnought seems more absurd then one supercarrier getting mugged by 4 Dreadnoughts
It feels like there are a lot of ships that jump through slip space alone or with small forces and just get fucked up in halo lore and I don’t get why they would think it a good idea especially when they know they got bad guys with entire fleets just chilling at several spots in soace
This was a great setup for how dangerous the Banished is. Humanity's greatest ship taken out in 4 minutes due to the perfect ambush and them already on the run from Cortana. Made me excited to get back into the fight as Chief to avenge this massive loss. Thank you 343
They should have let us fight in this battle. Could have been the PERFECT call back to OG Halo 1 fighting to evacuate the pillar of autumn and I think that alone would have had halo infinite start off on the right foot for everyone
I feel like 343 took the criticism from Halo 5 and completely overcorrected it. That is why they basically got rid of every none Master Chief character. Honestly, they need to come out with a quick DLC that follows Agent Lock or Captain Lasky during the 6 months the chief was MIA to help explain all the questions.
The Infinity should have been the tutorial level. When they were getting attacked and raided and then Atriox should have been an unbeatable bossfight by the end so much missed potential.
So is the Infinity gone for good or could we possibly see her again on day. Or maybe she does get destroyed and the next massive ship we get is Spirit of Fire
No. Chief lost that one fair and square either way. Wouldn’t be the first time. Chief almost lost a fight to some no name brute on the Unyielding Hierophant, too.
@@lTheOfficialJesusChristChannel Chief is old. He himself admitted he was defeated brutally. All of Red Team was, too. As far as the reaction time goes, my guess is we- even as the player- are experiencing cutscenes in Spartan Time (which is the only explanation I have for why everything is so slow)
@@azzythechristianfurry I don't know if Atriox surprising Chief while he's panicked, mentally exhausted, probably physically exhausted, basically unarmed, and trying to defend evacuation transports counts as "fair and square." That also counts for Red Team. He's never really fought Spartan IIs or IIIs without the element of surprise. Probably because they're fucking dangerous. He'd probably not like to chance a Spartan turning him into mist with a Stanchion rifle or a Spartan Laser. Also, Chief almost got a shot off on Atriox's head. Which without a helmet or shields (of which he has neither) WOULD have killed him.
Just when you thought the Infinity was going to be humanity’s hero ship after Cortana’s attack. Now it’s up to the Spirit of Fire to bring humanity out of the darkness. Maybe if humanity can finish her sister ship the Eternity then humanity can rebound.
Three things to take away from this kids. 1. 343 can’t write a good story to save their lives. Hell 343 try and write a bad story and I guarantee it’ll be the next big hit. 2. Master Chief is basically fucking useless when we’re not playing as him. 3. The UNSC are fucking useless. You send a ship on a mission to defeated Cortana and don’t have it fully manned?
Well we know she wasn't ambushed right away because in the book The Didact is watching as Infiniti pops out of split space they don't really say much after that but Atriox was on the ground, so more than likely Infiniti tanked a guardian then was ambushed while she was already beaten
Also it canonically didn't see the ambush coming, from space ships 500 years in the future, with sensors monitored by highly advanced ai, boosted by forerunner tech, because the attack came from the direction of the sun.
UNSC Ships the Master Chief was on and their fate: Pillar of Autumn - Crash Landed on Delta Halo, Intentional Sabotage to Ships Engine Reactors lead to the detonation of the ship and the Destruction of Installation 04. In Amber Clad - Overrun by Flood Infestation Sometime Before the Mission: High Charity, Destroyed via Crash Landing into the Holy City. Forward Unto Dawn - Split in Half during the Battle of the Ark, after a Slipspace Portal Collapses into the Ship, causing the Fore Section to Crash into the Indian Ocean, while the Aft Section drifted through space, before reaching Requiem. Infinity - Engaged by 4 Banished Destroyers, Rammed, Boarded and Overrun by Banished Forces, which is Lead by Atriox and His Inner Circle of Followers: "The Hand of Atriox" Destroyed over Zeta Halo during the Intro of Halo: Infinite.
It would’ve awesome if the odds were stacked against Chief like his luck was completely out for a moment. The Banished forces are all in front of him he’s out of ammo. Ships and Phantoms are about to take action. All of a sudden a glass beam bursts through the atmosphere destroying a ship and it’s the Arbiter. Thel Vadame shows up with his fleet with backup. Then you hear radio chatter through Chief’s helmet with the Arbiter talking to him saying stuff similar to what Iron Man said to Black Widow in Avengers. That would’ve been an awesome comeback for Arbiter and for Chief to get help.
It's still a hard pill to swallow that the banished couldn't destroy a small frigate but was somehow able to destroy the UNSC's biggest ship I'm hoping halo 7 sheds some more light on the ships destruction if it was destroyed at all
We are 3 years and a half in halo and we still havent gotten any campaign dlc or anything just multiplayer which isnt fair, literally everyone is coming together snd hoping the spirit of fire meets up with chief and maybe infinity since it did survive due to jumping at the last moment which is in a book i cant remember well, not to mention where was blue team and team Osiris i think 343 just didnt plan it well to begin with especially killing cortana in just small cutscenes instead of experiencing it in the game almost like halo 4
Aside from 343 not actually being true to the story, i have a theory.. John is still the luckiest Spartan. Chief being beaten and thrown out into space instead of just summarily executed was his luck in action. Because without that, he couldn't have freed Weapon, and defeated the Banished later. Also, the Spartan IV's weren't the Spartans that Humanity needed, so they got destroyed.
On the southern part of the map there is a crashed guardian. The theory is that infinity first fought and killed a guardian which could have disabled many of infinity's systems making them an easy target for the banished. When the covenant ship get rammed by infinity you see the covenant ship has its shields get disabled. But you dont see that on infinity when it gets rammed telling us shields werent up at the time. Halo infinite decided to not show the most interesting part of the story but instead give out bits and pieces of it durring their mediocre campaign
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I really can't wait for the next showdown between Atriox and the Master Chief!
just imagine the last fight with the hand of atriox vs spartan lock ,jerome ,arbiter and master chief and in their last show dawn it would be fist fight between master chief and atriox
what do you think
it is a bad idea or not?
By the way that's actually bullshit & they did the Master Chief dirty in Halo Infinite because no beats Master Chief is not only a legend but the best Spartan 2 warrior & he is basically immortal & unbeatable! 😤🪖⚡️💯
@@ZK9931Agreed & by the way I also know that Lock is alive just got his Spartan armor ripped off him awhile battling the a Banished Brute Chieftain but he was a coward Brute & his own Brute says it in gameplay in Halo Infinite I also like Locke especially with his Halo Spartan Hunter armor & also would like to that Grand final War Battle against the Banished & all the UNSC Spirit of Fire Captain Cutter,Sgt.John Forge,Marines,Red Team Jerome,Douglas,Alice,Spartan Team Omega,Noble Six,Master Chief & Blue Five Spartan Team including Samuel,Captain Keyes,Major Johnson,Marines from Halo Combat Evolved,Fire Team Raven,Halo ODST 3 Alpha Nine,Team Majestic,Osiris Team! 🪖💯
ATRIOX'S MISTAKE LET THE CHIEF SURVIVE
@@outyaworld no his biggest mistake was making enemy of him
It's the Master Chief curse. Every ship Chief sets foot on gets destroyed. Notice how how well the Spirit of Fire did against the Banished even though it's a much older ship... Also Cutter is just a much better captain than Lasky too.
Ahahaha so true, rip Chief
Why else do you think Del Rio abandoned Chief on Requiem 😂
@@reecey1504 Hang on… You actually have a point there with the curse every ship Chief is on
All that luck has to pay the piper somehow.
To be fair, the Spirit of Fire only fought against a single ship of the banished who were as an expeditionary force on the ark and was also more cautious in its attacks since it was their only means of leaving the ark.
When you're a regular marine and you see master chief arrive on your ship: 👁️_____👁️
Time to find the nearest escape pod
Time to abandon ship!
When your with the Chief your either really lucky to have him with you or it means your joining him on a suicide mission
@@FootedGhost
Marine: "Hey Sarg. Wanna run escape pod practice?"
Sargent: "What practice?"
Marine: *"Exactly."*
Feels so contrived to destroy that ship. “Oh we made it too strong so now we gotta mcguffin it out of existence”
4min to kill our best ship... Who wrote this dumb garbage.
@kidkratoski3778 well granted it was already on its last legs
@@NoNameTaken117they should actually showed us in infinite instead of just skipping straight into its defeat, like give me a reason to care about it.
@dg7347 true, just reading it from the books isn't enough justice
Halo 4: here's our big girl Infinity. It will be interesting to see what Humanity gets up to as a thriving faction.
Infinite: Human op nerf pls.
All those years of work on the story of the infinity and all it took a few minutes of fighting on screen for it to be destroyed.
I don't think she was destroyed, I remember somewhere it was mentioned that she did an emergency jump once all hands abandoned ship. It was either in a book or one of the audio logs.
So if that's true, Roland and the Infinity are out there somewhere. Just gotta ask ourselves when 343 plans on bringing her back.
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Then I hope that the infinity and the spirit of fire fighting along side with each other.
"on screen" lmao
That's the master chief curse after all
Hero ships in Halo never last more than a game or two, the Infinity lasted three which is the longest, even surpassing the Spirit of Fire, but the moment that sucker was introduced and the Chief stepped on it, its fate was sealed.
Let me explain why the Infinity lost in 4mins. Firstly, who is the luckiest Spartan? Its Chief! And where does he get all his luck? Every time he boards a damn ship he absorbs the ships luck. Once all the luck is absorbed, any ship will get ambushed, boarded and die. The reason why the Infinity lasted this long also has an obvious answer too. It was a new ship and the largest yet. Chief needed time to absorb all that luck. 😂
Lmao that's too funny
@@FootedGhost Its the only reason why every ship her gets on dies
The only chief lore accurate answer.
Lets all just pray Chief never sets foot on SoF. The only way its going to die is when Chief sets foot on it
Isn’t that kind of like domino from Deadpool 2? She isn’t extremely lucky, she just absorbs all the luck from everyone around her so they die and she keeps going lol
the infinity must have not been fighting back if it was destroyed in 4 minutes, the sheer amount of guns on that thing could make fleets cry
They were fighting but it was ambushed as soon as it arrived it couldn’t utilize all its crew or weapons. They literally hit it right after arrival
Thats not the point. The point is they made that situatiom so infinity will 100% lose. Because they want that story. Its not about what the hell they throw at it. It will survive the flood and forerunner if the story is written that it survives it so.@@user-hj4hg5cy6g
Its just Bad writing. No logical explanation. Magical plot armor so they could make the "story" work.
Infinity was defeated way too easily.
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My current opinion is that The Infinity was just in a fight with a guardian (the one you can see in the campaign world), so it had all its shield power focused toward the front of the ship. This is why the banished dreadnoughts were able to do so much damage to the sides of the ship. I think Atriox knew his forces were no match against a guardian, which is why he waited til after the Infinity destroyed it to attack at full force.
@@hyper_tacoman1659I think it was super weak after all the fighting, so the banished just mopped them up
Its crazy that Atriox was able to quickly destroy one of the most advanced human ships ever in a matter of minutes but was struggling to destroy an out of date colony ship that was literally run by a skeleton crew
Halo 4 made it seem like the Infinity was carrying hundreds of Spartans on board
because it was until plot wrote out half of infinity's staff & crew in one of its most important missions
The opening of Infinite happens way too fast. This should have been the opening mission instead of that Banished ship. Atriox definitely should have been the main antagonist not his hype man or the Harbinger. You have the guy defeat the Chief but don't do anything with it. This campaign has serious problems as little makes sense and opportunities were missed at every turn. Like for example The Chief meeting the Weapon for the first time and especially with Cortona's second death. 343 never knew what the hell they were doing with her.
Plus as a Spartan II, Chief's fight should not have been so clumsly, Atriox is definitely an imposing and skilled fighter, but why did Chief have so many dumb moments in a few seconds
@@lTheOfficialJesusChristChannel I don't have a problem with the fight just the lack of buildup or a rematch where we're in control.
"not his hype man"....
I'd argue that Escherum was CHIEF'S hype man, lol. He was clearly obsessed with him and regaining his honor by fighting one last glorious battle before he went out due to his sickness.
@@lTheOfficialJesusChristChannelI mean wasn’t this master chief super young so maybe he didn’t have as much experience or sum
Nah. The campaign was epic.
The Rubicon Protocol sums this up, the Infinity really got dabbed on by the big Monke (Atriox)
Atriox wishes he were Jorge
Now what happened to any other spartan at the time? Could absolutely no one help Chief out?
Great question! Chief was assisted by Fireteam Taurus during the battle on the Infinity, with their leader being Spartan Griffin, who unfortunately dies in Halo Infinite. It's a shame there were hardly any spartans on the Infinity at the time.
@@FootedGhost wasn't blue team on board? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that was mentioned in Rubicon Protocol. It's crazy to me that we never really see or hear anything of them in halo infinite
@@proper7439 Nope. Blue Team had a different mission before the Infinity went to Zeta Halo. They weren't present there at all
@@lordpatriot445 oh ok
The only thing 343 did wrong here was not showing us the ambush entirely. It was only 4 minutes after all.
Watching Cheif, Laskey, Palmer, and the rest of the crew reacting to the Banished for the first time and frantically trying to fight them off would have been really cool.
True, that would have been much better 👍
The fact halo infinite takes place 6 months after the ambush is just terrible writing.
Sure SOB the fact chief somehow survived 6 months of void exposure. Brohammer survived hiding in a pelican.
There is no reason why any of the marines are alive or even well equipped as they are after 6 months. They would have been hunted down for sport to the last by month 2 especially when that last outpost got overrun
The game taking place later isn't terrible writing. In theory the way the game opens is good.
But we really should have seen the whole story in flashback throughout the game. @ReaperofValhalla
@@alexlyster3459 I’m not saying it _Being_ later after the initial battle is terrible writing.
The game _Starting_ later is what is terrible. Sure we get some environmental story telling like that one marine being locked in a cage with a single bullet but because of the models that could have happen just an hour before chief shows up or a week after the battle.
having a cave with a bunch of dead marines that leads to a forerunner armory that hasn’t been looted, makes no sense when the banish are scavengers but I digress.
It leaves so much to the imagination that it doesn’t really trigger it. Like SCPs that ink out most of their articles. Instead of us experiencing these supposed tales they just leave some dead marines and maybe a voice recording.
It could have been a recreation and a more interactive version of Halo CE if they wanted a fresh start with the created being the new unknown and maybe the flood coming back like a cancer but no. It all happens off screen
The ambush should’ve been used for the tutorial level
Chief touches down on ship
Random Marine: Sir may i put in a tranfer please and make it asap
They did the Infinity freaking dirty. I loved that ship.
Also if we look closely you can see a fallen guardian in the back of the infinite campaign map which might mean that infinite fought a guardian and won but was damaged and had no shields then the banished took advantage and finished it off
That is my exact theory. Atriox new that his fleet stood no chance against the Infinity at full strength.
One thing we know about the Banished Dreadnaughts that ambushed the Infinity is that the front of the ships have giant gravity weapons that give off the same effect as the gravity hammer when they collide with something, meaning theses ships are literally giant multi-million tonne Gravity Hammers, another thing we know is that they were built as lifeboats for the Brute species (literally the same reason the Infinity was built for Humanity) meaning Escharum was lying when he said that loosing one of these ships meant nothing.
I’m telling yall the spirit of fire will save the crew of infinity
I would be great if we, you know, GOT TO PLAY THAT PART OF THE STORY IN THE ACTUAL GAME!
I just realised that the way atriox throws master chief of the infinity is the same or very similar to the way jorge throws six of off the covenant ship
Wow I didn't even realise that until you said it!
The dreadnought rammed the infinity with atriox on board? That's kinda weird.
Atriox has that kind of ego, he wants his men to do as much damage as possible, if he doesn’t survive that he believes he shouldn’t be alive
They have specifically designed ships to "impale" others. Imagine the front as a giant gravity hammer
Well Atriox's way as the Banished's leader is literally fight together, but do as much damage or whatever you can to win, no matter what
I believe it was not defeated in 4 minutes. I think eschurum was just saying that to demoralize chief
That could definitely be the case! 👀
I think what they mean is that it only took 4 minutes before Lasky ordered to Abandon ship. The banished flooded into the ship almost imediatly, so there was really no point to try and defend it with only a fraction of the crew on board.
They shouldve opened before the ambush then start the game as it happens. Fight your way to the bridge to get Lasky and prep Roland for emergency jump once evacuees are gone. Have Palmer, some Spartan 4s, ODSTs and Marines fight alongside you. Once you get to the flight deck and get Lasky and Palmer on a pelican youre grabbed by Atriox prompting the cutscene we see of Chief getting beat.
CHIEF has plot armor, HIM only JOHN. Anything his feet are standing on is screwed.
Not plot armor. It's luck. Which is a character trait not a superpower
@@snowiestsloth1467 lucks not real. A random number generator won't show favor to you.
@aliabdallah102 tell that to master chief then. When in verse he's said to have probability bending luck. Cortana said this in the halo book first strike while aboard the ascendant justice. Luck is real in the verse. Also yes luck does exist here. How did my friend come out of a car crash with no injuries. He skidded off the road and into a tree then rolled over. He came out with no injuries whatsoever. Explain that.
Well Chief's reaction time was so not very good in his Atriox fight, it wasn't very lore friendly, but definitely was crazy to see.
@lTheOfficialJesusChristChannel Brutes are stronger than spartans and tankier. Also atiox could have like 70 years of experience to got with it and he also has power armor. Also Chief was probably concussed after the first hit which made him fight slow.
The Infinity ♾️ is lost we are not.”
- Spartan Sorel
I didn't know it was under crewed at the time. somehow that explains alot.
Next time the eternity shall enter into service
Oh boy this is so cool! If only we got to see it from the Dam beginning!
Atriox was like "ill drop you on a planet demon, and be done with you."
Chief was like "oh boy, here i go i again."
I like how he said “only 7000” lmao
Dude I want more of Atriox, he's one of the coolest villains in halo
He will be back, don't you worry 😉
Ngl definitely a better monkey than tartarsauce
Play halo wars, nerd
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@@Angels-Playground Hey! You leave my boy Retartarus alone!
I hope one day, the UNSC comes with more powerfull ship!!!
I believe in the most up to date lore that they built 1-2 more infinity class ships, or they are currently being built.
Don’t forget, Chief nearly landed a headshot on Atriox, and if he’d had an AI in his armor, he would’ve been able to do it.
Good point! He almost got him!
I do wonder if the infinity is completely totalled or is still some what holding together some where. BTW you know the Helldivers at home map, some of my prefab are in it , with the most prominent being the right research site in the middle of the camp and the command tower in the distance at the end .
I 100% think she's not completely destroyed, and more likely crashed onto the surface of the ring. I'm hoping we see it (even if destroyed) and Captain Lasky again in the next game.
Oh wow good stuff bro, I'll need to check that out!! :)
Yeah your probably right, I still think they have kept it intentionally vague like what they have done with Locke. Also it is so bloody cool that some of my prefab are in something so many people have played, I only hope to see more people use them to help with their maps.
The UNSC had ONE ship of this caliber and it was dwarfed by a single Covenant Supercarrier (~6km in length vs. ~30km in length). That's like the Empire in Star Wars having ONE Imperial Star Destroyer while their enemy has fleets comprised of Super Star Destroyers and Death Stars.
All the stuff with the Infinity and Laskey that was only in audio recordings should have been cutscenes
Pension to make jerome a playable character right here
Crazy how none of this made it into the games
One thing we know about the Banished Dreadnaughts that ambushed the Infinity is that the front of the ships have giant gravity weapons that give off the same effect as the gravity hammer when they collide with something, meaning theses ships are literally giant multi-million tonne Gravity Hammers, another thing we know is that they were built as lifeboats for the Brute species (literally the same reason the Infinity was built for Humanity) meaning Escharum was lying when he said that loosing one of these ships meant nothing.
The only mistake Atriox made that day was leaving THE Master Chief alive and not taking him as a trophy
If they tried that on an Imperial battleship they would’ve broke their wimpy xenos tugboat
If that was the starting mission for infinite I would have finished the campaign
this is why you need FLEETs to accompany large capital ships
only if we had a team to help chief maybe things would have been different
Yeah if Blue team was there, things might have gone down differently. It's worth mentioning that Chief had some Spartan IVs with him on the Infinity, and we see some of them during Halo Infinite like Spartan Griffin.
@FootedGhost the problem is, atriox and his augmentation FAR outpace that of spartan 4s. So really, all they could have done is provide fire support. But in CQC they would have risked injuring or worse, killing the chief even WITH spartan time.
Edit: we know this BTW because atriox was a 1-1 match with the chief... and the chief would ABSOLUTELY STOMP a spartan 3 or 4 in fisticuffs
@@Angels-Playground most spartan 3s are comparable to IIs in physical statistics with some spartan iiis having feats comparable to the best and brightest of the iis all whilst using SPI instead of mjolnir
@@Angels-PlaygroundIIIs are just like IIs in strength and training. They died so much due to their worse treatment
@superk9letsplays419 that isn't true. Spartan 2s recieved substantially more potent augmentations and armor. The armor is an integral part of the Spartans physical capabilities as its the force amplifier. So clearly you don't know as much as you'd like to about the halo universe
Such a massive missed opportunity to have the Infinity crashed on the map that would’ve been a spiritual successor to the Pillar of Autumn from Halo CE.
Reasonable explanation as to why they lost they where undermanned and went in not expecting the banished to jump them
We also know the banished had a guardian killer weapon that they could of shot at infinity disabling it
Personally I’m fine with them destroying the ship sets the tone of the game but the first mission should of been on the infinity
they had a guardian killing weapon? WTF?!! where and how the hell did they get that, the game should've been about that and taking down cortana and atriox!
@@dg7347 they talk about it in the books
@@ghostlyswat12and im saying it should've been in the game! honestly the fact infinite skips so much of the important stuff pisses me off, it's actually worse than 5 in this regard.
I like how parred down the UNSC is. Like, at this point there are 10 or so Autumn class heavy cruisers (think Pillar of Autumn, but they have potent shields). Even just those 10 ships with frigate escort would tear the Banished navy apart. The damn things could go five on one and still win. Not to mind the dozens of orbital platforms, several dozen active Spartans, 20 Marathon heavy cruisers, millions of soldiers, tens of thousands of fighters, and individual nuclear weapons strong enough to knock out a planet. Even after The Didact and Cortana (neither of which caused much in the way of naval casualties, considering the damage they did in general) the Banished are just plot armor right now. They're trying to make them this ungodly huge threat, but they have nowhere NEAR the capabilities of the Covenant. So it just falls flat.
i wish we saw lasky in halo infinite hes my favorite side character
The Infinity: 😢
Spirit of Fire: 😒
Seeing the infinity get stomped so easily was my first clue that infinite was not gonna be the savior of a halo game that halo needed.
Still waiting for that rematch with atriox
Likewise, it's going to be good! 👀
Can't wait for that fight to become a thing just to be retconned
First the Pillar of Autumn, then the In Amber Clad, then the Forward Unto Dawn, and now possibly the Infinity. Bungie and 343 beat the “destroy the main ship you get attached to” trope like a dead horse.
at least the infinity lasted for 2 full games, maybe 3 if it returns in the next one.
The way Chief describes his defeat against Atriox wasn't simple: "He beat me really badly." He went full detail, someone who's never lost a fight, their first loss will always be a reminder for them and will haunt them, I have a feeling it may come back to haunt Chief when he confront Atriox or somewhere during the campaign in the new Halo game.
Well when you put it like that, yeah a colony ship playing cat and mouse with with one dreadnought seems more absurd then one supercarrier getting mugged by 4 Dreadnoughts
Spirit of fire: 🗿
We need DLC with that battle
we should've gotten an actual game.
It feels like there are a lot of ships that jump through slip space alone or with small forces and just get fucked up in halo lore and I don’t get why they would think it a good idea especially when they know they got bad guys with entire fleets just chilling at several spots in soace
People forget the infinity was basically outta weopons and fuel. They couldn’t run or fight back. Basically day 1 of Iwo Jima
This was a great setup for how dangerous the Banished is. Humanity's greatest ship taken out in 4 minutes due to the perfect ambush and them already on the run from Cortana. Made me excited to get back into the fight as Chief to avenge this massive loss. Thank you 343
I feel like the forerunner key ship shouldve played a part in it since the banished apparently wield it now
They should have let us fight in this battle. Could have been the PERFECT call back to OG Halo 1 fighting to evacuate the pillar of autumn and I think that alone would have had halo infinite start off on the right foot for everyone
The infinity had so many Spartans on board and had escort ships it couod launch. It seems like 343 doesn't know what it wants of halo.
I feel like 343 took the criticism from Halo 5 and completely overcorrected it. That is why they basically got rid of every none Master Chief character. Honestly, they need to come out with a quick DLC that follows Agent Lock or Captain Lasky during the 6 months the chief was MIA to help explain all the questions.
The Infinity should have been the tutorial level. When they were getting attacked and raided and then Atriox should have been an unbeatable bossfight by the end so much missed potential.
I still believe the Infinity is still around, no way the banished would wast a prize
Really liked this game, a big step up from Halo 5, I hope the next installment is as good as this
So is the Infinity gone for good or could we possibly see her again on day. Or maybe she does get destroyed and the next massive ship we get is Spirit of Fire
We all know atriox would have been shocked if Chief gave it his all. But he spent his time running after cortanas chip and trying to save the others
No. Chief lost that one fair and square either way.
Wouldn’t be the first time. Chief almost lost a fight to some no name brute on the Unyielding Hierophant, too.
@@azzythechristianfurry def was not Spartan II reaction time, bro got turned into Locke
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Chief is old. He himself admitted he was defeated brutally.
All of Red Team was, too.
As far as the reaction time goes, my guess is we- even as the player- are experiencing cutscenes in Spartan Time (which is the only explanation I have for why everything is so slow)
@@azzythechristianfurry nah, the only player with spartan timing is mintblitz💀
@@azzythechristianfurry I don't know if Atriox surprising Chief while he's panicked, mentally exhausted, probably physically exhausted, basically unarmed, and trying to defend evacuation transports counts as "fair and square." That also counts for Red Team. He's never really fought Spartan IIs or IIIs without the element of surprise. Probably because they're fucking dangerous. He'd probably not like to chance a Spartan turning him into mist with a Stanchion rifle or a Spartan Laser. Also, Chief almost got a shot off on Atriox's head. Which without a helmet or shields (of which he has neither) WOULD have killed him.
Plot convince.
Atriox: I killed chief!
The entire banished: YOU HAD ONE JOB ATRIOX
Master chief: you don fucked up
Doesn’t matter how powerful the ship is, Ambushes and being outnumbered tend to always beat firepower.
you telling me this ship can bitchslap a CSS supercarrier head on but isnt even able to flew an ambush of three dreadnoughts?
It should've been the first mission of the game
Just when you thought the Infinity was going to be humanity’s hero ship after Cortana’s attack. Now it’s up to the Spirit of Fire to bring humanity out of the darkness.
Maybe if humanity can finish her sister ship the Eternity then humanity can rebound.
why does this remind me of the story of the bismarck
Three things to take away from this kids.
1. 343 can’t write a good story to save their lives. Hell 343 try and write a bad story and I guarantee it’ll be the next big hit.
2. Master Chief is basically fucking useless when we’re not playing as him.
3. The UNSC are fucking useless. You send a ship on a mission to defeated Cortana and don’t have it fully manned?
I was always curious why the UNSC's Supercarrier didn't have... y'know. A carrier group.
Would be interesting if 343 brought Infinity’s sister ship, The Eternity, into the next game
The one question I do have is. Where was the captain after master chief woke up?
You and me both. Captain Lasky is not a throw away character, we need a proper on screen conclusion for him.
Time for the eternity
Thanks for recapping that which was obvious during the opening cutscene of halo infinite lol
I was more so highlighting how and why they were defeated so easily by the Banished.
actually did a better job of explaining the story than the entirety of infinite.
Well we know she wasn't ambushed right away because in the book The Didact is watching as Infiniti pops out of split space they don't really say much after that but Atriox was on the ground, so more than likely Infiniti tanked a guardian then was ambushed while she was already beaten
BRUTAL defeat hahahaha i see what you did there 😂😂😂😂
All you need is big monke to destroy infinity
Also it canonically didn't see the ambush coming, from space ships 500 years in the future, with sensors monitored by highly advanced ai, boosted by forerunner tech, because the attack came from the direction of the sun.
But the spirit of fire humanity's like oldest surviving ship can wipe a banished army
UNSC Ships the Master Chief was on and their fate:
Pillar of Autumn - Crash Landed on Delta Halo, Intentional Sabotage to Ships Engine Reactors lead to the detonation of the ship and the Destruction of Installation 04.
In Amber Clad - Overrun by Flood Infestation Sometime Before the Mission: High Charity, Destroyed via Crash Landing into the Holy City.
Forward Unto Dawn - Split in Half during the Battle of the Ark, after a Slipspace Portal Collapses into the Ship, causing the Fore Section to Crash into the Indian Ocean, while the Aft Section drifted through space, before reaching Requiem.
Infinity - Engaged by 4 Banished Destroyers, Rammed, Boarded and Overrun by Banished Forces, which is Lead by Atriox and His Inner Circle of Followers: "The Hand of Atriox" Destroyed over Zeta Halo during the Intro of Halo: Infinite.
I bet the UNSC ship took a very long time to build
Honestly. If we as the player playing the cheif. The hanger or even better the infinity would have never fallen.
It would’ve awesome if the odds were stacked against Chief like his luck was completely out for a moment. The Banished forces are all in front of him he’s out of ammo. Ships and Phantoms are about to take action. All of a sudden a glass beam bursts through the atmosphere destroying a ship and it’s the Arbiter. Thel Vadame shows up with his fleet with backup. Then you hear radio chatter through Chief’s helmet with the Arbiter talking to him saying stuff similar to what Iron Man said to Black Widow in Avengers. That would’ve been an awesome comeback for Arbiter and for Chief to get help.
Hay umm atriox did you forget to tell your forces to not attack the hanger you in😅
It has a sister ship named serenity so maybe she'll make an appearance
It's still a hard pill to swallow that the banished couldn't destroy a small frigate but was somehow able to destroy the UNSC's biggest ship I'm hoping halo 7 sheds some more light on the ships destruction if it was destroyed at all
The ship didnt do too bad being outnumbered by a whole army vs one ship
We are 3 years and a half in halo and we still havent gotten any campaign dlc or anything just multiplayer which isnt fair, literally everyone is coming together snd hoping the spirit of fire meets up with chief and maybe infinity since it did survive due to jumping at the last moment which is in a book i cant remember well, not to mention where was blue team and team Osiris i think 343 just didnt plan it well to begin with especially killing cortana in just small cutscenes instead of experiencing it in the game almost like halo 4
Aside from 343 not actually being true to the story, i have a theory..
John is still the luckiest Spartan.
Chief being beaten and thrown out into space instead of just summarily executed was his luck in action. Because without that, he couldn't have freed Weapon, and defeated the Banished later.
Also, the Spartan IV's weren't the Spartans that Humanity needed, so they got destroyed.
Atriox's plot armour is not even surpassed by Batman.
On the southern part of the map there is a crashed guardian. The theory is that infinity first fought and killed a guardian which could have disabled many of infinity's systems making them an easy target for the banished. When the covenant ship get rammed by infinity you see the covenant ship has its shields get disabled. But you dont see that on infinity when it gets rammed telling us shields werent up at the time. Halo infinite decided to not show the most interesting part of the story but instead give out bits and pieces of it durring their mediocre campaign
Is dreadnought class different from the Dreadnought in Halo 2 and 3?
It's almost like they should've had a lot of little ships instead of one big stupid ship