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SST Speed Sensor Replacement and More, DCT 470, EVO MR / Ralliart, Jacks Transmissions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2021
- Supposed to be a simple speed sensor swap but turned out to be a lot more than that. Decided to just put the video up anyway. Please support us in supporting you by purchasing our parts from us.
I don’t know who built this trans previously and I don’t want to know. All we care about is now it’s right and will live a long service life.
We build a huge number of these units at Jacks Transmissions. We offer repairs, builds and upgrades for the DCT470 SST Dual Clutch Transmission. If you want to see this completed trans in action we test all our SST units in our vehicle here: • SST Testing After Rebu...
At 27:10 he just straight unscrewed that filter housing without pulling out the plastic locking arm up top. I don’t know anything about these trans other than that. That’s all I know. I also know the filter housing assembly that the lock arm is attached too is about 300$ if you break that locking arm off. lol other than that I’m loving this video. Thanks for sharing. Hope that arm made it. lol
Amazing, why couldn’t this been uploaded years ago. Wish I could work for you guys 🙏🏼
I've watched your videos even before buying my car, because I knew one day I would have to work on the SST... and so here I am lol
Hello from Alberta, Canada.
Thanks Jack for sharing your insight on this DCT.
Thanks so much for posting this video, most helpful one on youtube really helped me on the other side of the world 🙂
Super work!! So good. Thank you!
Awesome job guys thanks for the info
Awesome video, very detailed and thorough. After reading through the comments, aparently alot of Ralliart and Evo owners wish these videos were out there years ago!
I just picked up a 2010 Ralliart with a non-working SST. Oddly enough, I decided to buy it after looking at a couple high mileage cars and researching what I'd be into if the SST went out (cost to send it for rebuild or process of doing it alone). Then, for whatever crazy reason, became intruiged with how these worked after reading and watching stuff on them for hours, and opted to buy the broken car.
I'm sure after diving into it, my interest will slowly turn to aggravation over time, but it's all part of the fun! Thanks for making this - anyone can tell you've been through alot of these. I just ordered some fluid, filters, and a couple of replacement vent elbows from you guys 👍
@retro_grade did u ever get you sst fixed? What was the issue?
Much appreciate mate great video 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
This is awesome. I will defo be buying partss from you
Man great video thanks a lot for sharing😎👍
Many thanks!! 😃
Best one ever ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️😍😍😍😍😍 please talk more about dct transmission gtr
Perfect
I can tell Jack has done this a few times :)
How much is this typically as a repair? Awesome video but idk if i can do this myself. Never even changed my oil lmao
Amazing video!
Full sending never lifting 😏 🤙mobbin deep 🙌 ty for the therapeutic video from life/love the vibes straight forward n to the point no mickey mouse b.s.
22:09 to get the speed sensor of that gearbox....wow no wonder the worksmanship is expensive..
At 59:40 , your dampener spring falls into the clutch as you're fitting it ? How did that turn out ?
23:08 sick chair :D you think i can shove a SST transmission in 2015 jeep patriot sport? :D
I have 2011 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart turbo SST turbo 2.0L transmission I want to refurbish how i can get and contac whith you
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Hi, what is the transmission speed sensor part no.
Also the two seals part no. For transmission differential shaft that attaches to the transfer case pls Thanks
I have a question. Do you need to program a new mechatronic for an evo mr sst transmission, and I get the code ( P1590 ) with the new mechatronic
hi..i have fault code P1934 - vehicle speed sensor, buy my gearbox is DCT450..may i know is this the same speed sensor that faulty?or another sensor? thanks
Where are you guys based
Where are you located?
where can i contact you abot some parts?
Hey ! My cousin and I recently finished assembling my transmission, it had the fault of 2/4 where I was getting only odd gears. Upon opening it I decided to replace all the sensors.. I had replaced them with Dodson upgraded magnets. When I put the transmission back in the car I ended up not getting odd gears. I did more research and realized that the magnets needed to be aligned and in a specific position. I noticed you did use a jig and I was wondering how you know which positions they should be ! Appreciate the feedback ! I bought all my filters and seals from you guys !
Hello! Unfortunately, those forks are junk. We tried to work with them for years and they were a constant nightmare. That's what prompted us to make our own unique design that works reliably. Even with our jig those forks are hit and miss. Just buy ours and be done with it and have it right the first time.
Okay ! I’m guessing I’d need two of your forks right ? One for the odd gears and one for the even gears
@@robertobennett9169 No the only fork that typically has the magnet issue is 2/4. What was the other fork that was replaced?
I think the other fork that was replaced was on the gear cluster beside the 2-4 cluster
@@robertobennett9169 That would be the EVEN side input shaft. That shaft has the 6th gear synchro assembly on it and that's where the 6th gear shift fork would go too. I don't think I have ever seen those fail in any way. Very odd to replace that cluster.
Do you change out the shifting forks. I hear the magnets peal off?
Hello! Yes I showed the 2/4 fork in the video. Here is a link below:
www.jackstransmissions.com/transmission-services/sst-dct470/sst-dct470-2/p-807-2-4-shift-fork-upgrade-sst-dct470
Do you have SST transmissions in stock to swap out or do I have to send mine in for repair?
Thanks for the interest! Yes I have a few cores. Let me know what build you want and I can do an exchange. There will be a core fee but it is refunded when the core is returned.
Please note that if your core is trashed you will not get all of your core money back. It’s best to ship is your trans so we can repair/rebuild your original core and know exactly what it needs.
Hi is anyone know that DCT450 speed sensor same as DCT470 、
I just assembled mine. I don't remember seeing blue stuff on my shafts.
That is spline grease to try to help prevent spline wear. It's something we just started doing recently.
@@GVR1670 when I sent you my stuff every possible thing was upgraded. Should I split the trans off to put that grease on? I don't drive in snow and avoid rain. Also, you could end up really famous on TH-cam but you obviously need more content. You should document a build for a car. Maybe do the first ever 1,000 hp MR to steal all the business, or a GTR. If people see you I bet your business will skyrocket. When I saw your breakdown of a DCT I chose you vs your competitors bc I could tell you loved your work, were meticulous, and were professional.
@@johnryan8985 Thanks! No need to pull it for that. It should be fine. The spline grease is a precautionary thing to try to help the splines live.
@@GVR1670 that's wonderful news. I had a question about a weird code I got on my X MR. The second time driving on a full build just cruising I got a code that 5th gear was blocked. It's at the tuner now but when it comes home I can try to diagnose it more. Am I supposed to do a teach in the first time using one of your transmissions? I can say it's at the minimum 8 quart level. I have a fresh jug to go to your recommended 10quart when it comes home.
@@johnryan8985 No we do the reprogramming and teach-in here. It doesn't need that. 8 quarts is fine. What Mode was the trans in when it got the gear block code?
Hello, thanks for the videos. I have a small leak I think its coming from between the output shaft and t-case side, is it possible to replace that o-ring and environmental seal without cracking open the SST?
The o-ring is just to seal off from the environment so water, dirt, etc doesn’t get in there. It doesn’t seal as far as any oil is concerned.
The large seal in the trans case is likely what is leaking. It is possible to swap that seal with the trans in the car. We use a medium sized flat screw driver and punch it through the seal housing (note be careful not to touch the case or shaft surfaces as you could damage them). I then use a hook tool to pull the seal out via the hole created with the screw driver. Installing the new seal will be tricky but using a tube that is the same diameter of the seal can allow you to get it in there.
@@GVR1670 Hello Jack, I have tried everything with regards to replacing that seal. Still no cigar I am an international customer, so I must say thank you for the seals your company sent me. I stripped the car myself when when my local dealership decided not to change the transmission oil every 7000km like I requested that caused the clutches to die, I also did pay for the oil they did not change. That o-ring is supposed to be a very complicated seal that is supposed to be clamped between the front diff and transmission on the South African and Australian Evo X's. It is my bad luck for not being hawkish and not trusting a single person as I should have made a 3d scan of everything on my car before sending the it in to be rebuilt. Hopefully I can find an online example or part number or else I'll just have to burn the car.
@@sammonkoe2865 I may have this o-ring. Send me a picture of this area in question to my email shop@jackstransmissions.com
Hi Jack, trying to tear mine apart. The oil pump gear does not budge at all and I already removed the snap ring but it definitely did not come easy as yours did in the video. Any advice how to remove it? It's stuck on there tight
There may be a problem with the oil pump then. I would use small pry-bars to help pull the gear off the shaft. If it still refuses to come off there may be no choice but to break it off and replace the gear and oil pump.
@@GVR1670 Thanks for the response. I ended up using a slide hammer and it came off
How much to upgrade the shift fork for the SST only , nothing else
We typically don’t do that as these units always have more than one problem, and wear is common now that these are aging. I full rebuild would assure reliability. Link to the fork below if you want to try to swap it yourself:
jackstransmissions.com/transmission-services/sst-dct470/sst-dct470-2
Are there any Torque specs on this transmission?
Yes, what parts are you installing?
do you have a link for parts?
Yes linked below. We have any part you need if you email us too. Thanks!
jackstransmissions.com/transmission-services/sst-dct470/sst-dct470-2
where is your shop
In Colorado. www.jackstransmissions.com
Hi, i have a question, does anyone know if the speed sensor in DCT470 is exactly the same as in DCT450 ? I live in Poland and here i can't find a sensor for DCT470, but instead i can buy one from DCT450 without any problem.
Both sensors in the photos on the internet looks pretty the same, maybe the diffrence is in the lenght of the cable?
The sensor is the same but the pinouts are different. If you order from us and tell them you have a 450 we can make sure it’s pinned for your unit.
jackstransmissions.com/my-cart/store-home/p-575-oem-damper-speed-sensor-sst-dct470?search=Speed%20sensor
@@GVR1670 Well, i have a Mitsubishi Outlander with a W6DGB 4-23a 9U3R 7000CD transmission. My mechanic took this transmission apart, but the sensor has a different mount than the sensor in your video. Mitsubishi does not provide for replacement of this sensor and I still cannot get it anywhere. Do you have such a sensor ? Do you know where to get it ? As far as I know, the damper(flywheel) is outside this gearbox, maybe that's why the sensor is mounted differently.
@@kubuscod please send a picture of the sensor to our email sales@jackstransmissions.com
Hi Jack, I'm having P1836 and P0716 (lost 1-3-5 and reverse). P1836 started before and was causing no issues, until P0716 showed up lol. Would the parts of the rebuild/repair kit that you guys sell possibly be enough or I should be looking at extra parts? Unfortunately I cant ship my SST as im way too far, so I'm looking into buying these parts
By the way, thanks for the video!
1836 is a shift fork 1 malfunction and the 0716 code is for input shaft speed. It’s hard to say without taking it apart.
It sounds to me like maybe the 1/R shift shaft broke. It thinks it's in gear because the location magnets are still moving, but the gear itself is not rotating like the system suspects it should. Unfortunately, with issues like this you have to take it apart first, see what's broke, then replace those pieces. I believe this issue is outside a simple Valve Body swap and common parts kit.
@@GVR1670 thanks a lot for the answer Jack. I'll get it open and see it's fixable or I'll have to replace the entire trans. If fixable I'll be importing the parts with you. We don't even have valve bodies here in Brazil, theyre the price of an used trans lol
@@GVR1670you seem pretty knowledgeable and may be of help to me . I have only the code P0716 , and it only appears at random . When it appears I lose 1,3,5 R , if I turn car off and on again the gears come back and I can drive with all gears for minutes or hours till it happens again . What the hell do I need to be doing ?
I had removed my valve body to look at it and swap it with a mechatronic I was told was working , but the issue still persists but I did notice the one bore plug on the side of valve body was sticking out passed the edge of valve body and I’ve been told that one is a common failure and it controls the line pressure . Could this be my issue ? Maybe it’s not getting correct pressure and throws out my odd gears ( generally P0716 shows it’s ugly face when I’m driving in first gear )
@@jordancleal6380 hello! Your issue is likely the valve body, not the mechatronic. The valves begin to wear into the bore of the valve body casing and will get stuck. When they do this it will begin to push that plug out that you mentioned and it also raises the pressures in the trans to dangerously high levels. Your valve body needs to be torn down, the valve bores honed out to clean them up and new oversized valves installed that are larger in diameter to fit the new space. We had to design and build specific equipment just to do this right. It’s something that is precise and needs to be perfect or the trans will not work.
As you can see in the video pic, we do a lot of valve bodies here and we do them right. Boring and honing with larger valves, updated solenoids, correct gaskets that won’t blow out, correct o-rings and billet plugs will assure the valve body will live and function as it should. If you would like to have yours rebuilt we would be more than happy to do it. Fully updated with our parts it will last longer than a new one from the dealer and it’s still half the price for our services over a new one.
Don’t be fooled by the valve body ‘rebuild kits’ you see online. It will do nothing to cure your issue and will make your VB worse. It takes specialized equipment and knowledge to get them right and we got these all figured out no matter what the issue. If it’s in the valve body, it’ll be fixed with our rebuild.
www.jackstransmissions.com/transmission-services/sst-dct470/sst-dct470-2/p-810-mechatronic-valve-body-assembly-rebuild-service-sst-dct470
But I definitely have a question on my 2011 Ralliart had the shop rebuild it but it has p184b code for a shift fork 4
And it’s a hard code it won’t clear
Comes right back on when the car is started,,,And only has reverse if anybody can give me some information on my next steps should take thanks
Whoever rebuilt it didn't do it right. Either they reused the OEM 2/4 fork and it has failed (they have a high failure rate), or they replaced the fork with aftermarket and it was not installed correctly. Some aftermarket forks are near impossible to align correctly on install and create constant fork issues.
Our forks are aligned and tested before we ship/install them. Our forks have the same magnetic footprint and strength of the OEM magnets. Make for a much better product for a flawless trouble free install. Link:
jackstransmissions.com/transmission-parts/evox-sst-dct470/p-807-2-4-shift-fork-upgrade-sst-dct470
Thanks Jack I appreciate the information and also the car has a solid reverse and sometimes goes in to drive
But most of the time there’s no forward engagement
And also I wanted to make sure that it wasn’t just an ECU problem or a computer problem so this code pretty much pertains to the 2/4 forks correct
I would definitely like to purchase the ones you have in stock I appreciate you jack
I’m getting p0716 is something wrong with speed sensor?
That’s a different one. Typically that error comes ON with a fork or clutch issue.
It’s not going in third gear then all odd gear after driving
It’s not going in third gear then all odd gear after driving
@@GVR1670
What fault code does related with this speed sensor issue?
@@AdamAqasyah jackstransmissions.com/my-cart/store-home/p-575-oem-damper-speed-sensor-sst-dct470?search=speed%20sensor