I never thought the Lore behind FFXIV was so deep, right now I'm just noticing it out of pure curiosity but saw that there is not that much info for the past only the present. Lovely video! (this was done almost a years ago XD)
The third nation in the War of Magi in FF14 is Mhach. This is confirmed in the Scholar post-50 quest chain. This is a pre-Belah'dia nation of black mages centered in Thanalan, responsible for summoning demons to attack Amdapor and Nym. In the case of Nym they were highly successful as the demon they summoned, Bitoso, effectively cursed it with the Green Plague.
+DracoSuave And hoping he sees this, it is pronounced "M-ah-k" or "M-ah-kai" for plural. not Mee-ah-chee". Based on assume phonetics. But there is no "I" either way in the beginning of the pronunciation.
+Mark Miles I've been pronouncing M'hach or M'hachi, similar to how Seeker of the Sun names have a slight schwa at the beginning. Haven't seen the Japanese form tho.
This is exactly what I needed. I'm super into environmental lore and as a resident of Ul'dah it couldn't be more appreciated! Would love to see more on other city states or even other continents/countries if you are able to find enough info!
This has to be one of my favorite videos of yours to date, to be honest. I absolutely love background history to games and all the lore that comes with them, and this just made me so calm listening to explain this. Could one of your next videos in this series maybe be about the Nymians, Ampadori, and Mhachi that took place during the War of the Magi? I'd love to hear your voice on these three groups! Not sure if you talked about them yet (might be the from your Amdapor Tour video which I haven't gotten to yet) but I'd love to hear what you have on them!
I've just recently got into FF 14 and I cannot express enough how helpful it is to have resources like your videos to look to when it comes to my own writing within this vast and grand world. Thank you.
Sweet video as always, Ethys. If you're looking for some ideas I may have some: How about covering lore or mythos behind some of the more noted monsters/summons/primals in game. You know cover their background as to their country of origin and why they were either revered or feared there.
From as early as the starting cut scene Uldah is shown to be a seething pit of corruption and greed, a point hammered into us in by the 2.55 story line leading up to Heavensward. As such I've never liked the city or it's stories, but I still wonder if redemption will ever come?
I would love to hear about the ancient city-state of Nym, as well as the war that ended in it's ruin against the Amdapoor and some of the other nations.
Do you have a video that goes into more detail about the war of the magi? Iv seen on some forms that the scholars of nym and the white mages teamed up to fight the black mages, is that true?
While FF14 may take it the Greek way, there is one of the Netjeru that cold be construed that way: Yienpu-Wepwawet. Though he is more a psychopomp of the dead, his other side is known as the Opener of the Way. Add to this the belief of the time that you could take your wealth, clothes, other stuff with you, and you get a decent representation for a video game. Obviously that is not the case with modern Kemeticists.*is Kemetic revivalist* :)
I always love your videos. That being said, your assertion that the Elezen were the only people on Eorzea seems far fetched. Considering we know that the Allag Empire was at least ruled by a Hyur ruling class (the Royal Clones from the CT questline). Question: It occurs to me that almost all of the depictions of the twelve are either Hyur or Elezen. I find it incredibly surprising that the other races would so freely worship gods that are not of their race. In the real world there are so many different depictions of a holy figure such as Jesus that he is often depicted as a race similar to that who worships him. Halone is the only statue that I can think of off the top of my head that is distinctly Elezen, the rest are ambigiously not Elezen or Hyur or just flat our Hyur.
niwaar Correct me if I'm wrong... but when he states the Elezen were the only ppl in Eorzea... I think he means in their era. Remember the Allag were already wiped out by this time.
Fang Striker Pretty much. After the fall of Allag we didn't see any Hyur presence in Eorzea whatsoever (that we have sources of) until after the War of the Magi - so for about 2500 years. So when I say none of the "modern" races sans the Elezen were to be seen for millenia after the fall of Allag, that's canon... sorry for not making that "after Allag" qualification a bit clearer. As for depictions of the Twelve, my suspicion is that their cults are all native to Eorzea and were taken up by emigrating Lalafell, Miqo'te etc after settling rather than being imported by them from other continents. The first peoples of Eorzea being some kind of proto-Elezen/Hyur would explain this.
I just find it really interesting that the concept of the later Umbral Eras and their respective cataclysms we see that these were not a complete wipeout of the people. Combined with the "royal eye" that was handed down through generations to be alive in the Miqote in the CT questline, There has to have been some Hyur civilization somewhere on Eorzea that survived. I'd really love to see/hear some lore come out about how this occured.
+niwaar also note that the Allagans inhabited more than just the region of Eorzea... So I have a felling millions of Allagans survived but were displaced after their governing rulers were basically wiped out.
Has there ever been any record of a Plainsfolk that took an antagonist role? I feel like it's largely the Dunesfolk that make the potato race look bad as a whole.
I never thought the Lore behind FFXIV was so deep, right now I'm just noticing it out of pure curiosity but saw that there is not that much info for the past only the present.
Lovely video!
(this was done almost a years ago XD)
The third nation in the War of Magi in FF14 is Mhach. This is confirmed in the Scholar post-50 quest chain. This is a pre-Belah'dia nation of black mages centered in Thanalan, responsible for summoning demons to attack Amdapor and Nym. In the case of Nym they were highly successful as the demon they summoned, Bitoso, effectively cursed it with the Green Plague.
+DracoSuave And hoping he sees this, it is pronounced "M-ah-k" or "M-ah-kai" for plural. not Mee-ah-chee". Based on assume phonetics. But there is no "I" either way in the beginning of the pronunciation.
+Mark Miles I've been pronouncing M'hach or M'hachi, similar to how Seeker of the Sun names have a slight schwa at the beginning. Haven't seen the Japanese form tho.
Sorry, I should have specified. "He" being Ethys :P
+Mark Miles I should have realized that. M'bad
Words cannot describe my gratitude for your work. It reminds me of how much depth there is in XIV.
Again thank you.
This is exactly what I needed. I'm super into environmental lore and as a resident of Ul'dah it couldn't be more appreciated! Would love to see more on other city states or even other continents/countries if you are able to find enough info!
As a Dunesfolk Lalafell, and as someone who loves Ul'dah lore Thank you!! Superb videos Ethys!
Potatoes... my sides. You are killing me!
This has to be one of my favorite videos of yours to date, to be honest. I absolutely love background history to games and all the lore that comes with them, and this just made me so calm listening to explain this.
Could one of your next videos in this series maybe be about the Nymians, Ampadori, and Mhachi that took place during the War of the Magi? I'd love to hear your voice on these three groups! Not sure if you talked about them yet (might be the from your Amdapor Tour video which I haven't gotten to yet) but I'd love to hear what you have on them!
I've just recently got into FF 14 and I cannot express enough how helpful it is to have resources like your videos to look to when it comes to my own writing within this vast and grand world. Thank you.
An excellent video, as always. I feel my hunger for lore has temporarily been satisfied.
I really love your lore videos, I hope you never stop.
Sweet video as always, Ethys. If you're looking for some ideas I may have some: How about covering lore or mythos behind some of the more noted monsters/summons/primals in game. You know cover their background as to their country of origin and why they were either revered or feared there.
thank you for these lore videos. keep doing what you're doing. I enjoy listening to these, I find eorzean history so interesting
This is amazing! Thank you so much for the work you put into this!
I really like this part of the game's lore. Thanks for the super interesting vid
From as early as the starting cut scene Uldah is shown to be a seething pit of corruption and greed, a point hammered into us in by the 2.55 story line leading up to Heavensward. As such I've never liked the city or it's stories, but I still wonder if redemption will ever come?
TY so much for the knowledge provided :-)
Ethys you think that the mist might have more background story later in Heavensward or what we learn by quest
I would love to hear about the ancient city-state of Nym, as well as the war that ended in it's ruin against the Amdapoor and some of the other nations.
You looking forward to the 14 hour broadcast? Koji's going to have a lore talk during it iirc.
Do you have a video that goes into more detail about the war of the magi? Iv seen on some forms that the scholars of nym and the white mages teamed up to fight the black mages, is that true?
ethys, if you do the sch 50-60 quests you will discover that the ancestros of the Belahians were the Mhiarch, I think. But they clear said the name
sweet. would love to know more of the hyur mythos
canu please do one about nymea
How can you suspect the amdapori summoned diabolos when mhach were users of void magic???
This came out before all that lore was revealed. Look at the post date, pal/
lol Dunesfolk Potato :3
I changed from Elezen to Lalafell. No regret. I feel the evil conquer me.
those potatoes though...
Egyptian descendants who worship a Greek god. Interesting.
While FF14 may take it the Greek way, there is one of the Netjeru that cold be construed that way: Yienpu-Wepwawet. Though he is more a psychopomp of the dead, his other side is known as the Opener of the Way. Add to this the belief of the time that you could take your wealth, clothes, other stuff with you, and you get a decent representation for a video game. Obviously that is not the case with modern Kemeticists.*is Kemetic revivalist* :)
I always love your videos.
That being said, your assertion that the Elezen were the only people on Eorzea seems far fetched. Considering we know that the Allag Empire was at least ruled by a Hyur ruling class (the Royal Clones from the CT questline).
Question: It occurs to me that almost all of the depictions of the twelve are either Hyur or Elezen. I find it incredibly surprising that the other races would so freely worship gods that are not of their race. In the real world there are so many different depictions of a holy figure such as Jesus that he is often depicted as a race similar to that who worships him. Halone is the only statue that I can think of off the top of my head that is distinctly Elezen, the rest are ambigiously not Elezen or Hyur or just flat our Hyur.
niwaar Correct me if I'm wrong... but when he states the Elezen were the only ppl in Eorzea... I think he means in their era. Remember the Allag were already wiped out by this time.
Fang Striker Pretty much. After the fall of Allag we didn't see any Hyur presence in Eorzea whatsoever (that we have sources of) until after the War of the Magi - so for about 2500 years. So when I say none of the "modern" races sans the Elezen were to be seen for millenia after the fall of Allag, that's canon... sorry for not making that "after Allag" qualification a bit clearer.
As for depictions of the Twelve, my suspicion is that their cults are all native to Eorzea and were taken up by emigrating Lalafell, Miqo'te etc after settling rather than being imported by them from other continents. The first peoples of Eorzea being some kind of proto-Elezen/Hyur would explain this.
I just find it really interesting that the concept of the later Umbral Eras and their respective cataclysms we see that these were not a complete wipeout of the people. Combined with the "royal eye" that was handed down through generations to be alive in the Miqote in the CT questline, There has to have been some Hyur civilization somewhere on Eorzea that survived. I'd really love to see/hear some lore come out about how this occured.
+niwaar also note that the Allagans inhabited more than just the region of Eorzea... So I have a felling millions of Allagans survived but were displaced after their governing rulers were basically wiped out.
Has there ever been any record of a Plainsfolk that took an antagonist role? I feel like it's largely the Dunesfolk that make the potato race look bad as a whole.
Who is down-voting this stuff?
+Solomon Overboard People that get butthurt when he pokes fun at Lalafells?...Or just people that hate lore
The Rise of the Potato Empire, please look forward to it.
Video debunked because lalafell are not potatoes, try again.
third is mhach 😂😂
just more proof lalafels are evil