i just bought one of these 190's and a 109. I'm glad to see it looks like it flys well. the FW190 is also my favorite plane ever. when i was a child of about 6 (back in the 70's) my older brother had spitfire and hurricane airfix models so of course i had to have the German planes. i always liked the look of the FW190 and was hand flying it around (doing the noises too) when my grandad who was my hero (he flew hurricanes in ww2) walked past and said "oooh an FW190 .. good planes they were" and that was it , a simple statement like that started my love affair with Kurt Tanks legendary Butcher Bird. i have a parkzone 1100mm with retracts and drop tank , an fms 800mm and now this little one , cant wait to give it a fly :) , nice vid , thnx for showing us this lovely little warbird.
It is difficult advising a beginner to the hobby and something like this could wet their appetite to delve a little deeper, on the other hand it could put them off completely! What annoys me is when you see 'easy to fly' on the box. I think as experienced pilots we forget how difficult it is when you first start out 🤔
Either way Cliff anyone who tries the hobby is going to need quite a lot of persistence. Crashes will happen. I think these are so robust and with the stabilisation it at least gives the noob a chance of enjoying themselves and continuing to the next level.
I showed a friend who had seen these mine and flew it in the front yard while showing him my control inputs and what was happening. He's had toy grade rc cars before and shoot, runs an excavator so is used to remote control. Oh, I have a control line circle in my front yard so it's not small but there are too many trees on the edge. THEN I handed him the controls, made sure it was in beginner mode and threw it. He kept up with it for a couple minutes, panicked but stayed out of the trees THEN when it was coming back at us he told me he was ready for a break and wanted to hand it back to me. I told him to kill the throttle and let go of the controls. Landed itself about 20 feet away. Told him, flying in a football size field, he'd have 4 times as much room so no panic. He's flying his now. The only problem with entrepreneurs like him, with his first kid is, they tend to work all the darn time. But these ARE one of those anybody can fly things. transitioning to more Crunchy planes will be the next step but something like a Bixler, SkySurfer or whatever they call it, a pusher, high wing trainer like that, will be a breeze.
I started last June with a Zero and a Cub version (the cub had the same electronics and protocol) and learned so much from them. I moved on to a Flite Test Tutor (with no gyro!) and UMX Timber Turbo Evo. With what I learned from my tiny planes I comfortably moved onto better planes and now have like 11 planes. I'm even flying things like an EDF and a MFX Racer with ease when like 6 months ago I thought my Zero was fast lol.
This-un is 1 of the best of the V761 Minis that we've had, Dom. Flies very well. There have been a couple of "Upgrades" from the earlier V761s. The board now has the servos mounted 1 behind the other like the V76802 board in the Volantex 500mm brushless P-51s and it has a Find My Plane beeper on the board now. Everything else works as the rest of the recent iterations of the v2 V761s. Except that the pop-off prop system connectors are very slightly different now. The older system parts and props can be substituted though if need be. The large diameter engine cowl area should be a boon for folks wanting to change it to 2s brushless when the "modding" bug bites. 😉😊
My first RC plane was the Eachine P51. Easy to fly, for me, but only in Beginner or Intermediate mode. I even customised the livery to replicate a 3 Sqn RAAF plane lost in Italy. I wonder if the bird on the side is a butcherbird?
Whilst these things are good for those new to the hobby in the sense that they are inexpensive, good to go straight out of the box and pretty robust if you crash them, they are nevertheless not quite so ideal for a beginner in being small and therefore having to fly pretty fast, with their size also making them not quite so easy to spot in terms of orientation. Things tend to happen a bit too fast for most beginners when flying these things although if one is the kind of person who likes to learn by being thrown in at the deep end, then they will do the job. Personally, I think it's a great shame that Eachine discontinued its somewhat larger original P-47 Razorback model (which wasn't a razorback variant, but we'll ignore that) in favour of its now smaller P-47. Being extremely lightweight and larger than most current Eachine models, the older one was able to fly a lot slower than the current crop of Eachine warbirds. It looked very 'scale' in the air as a result of that, but more importantly for a beginner, the slower speeds possible with it made it a better choice for a beginner. On the downside for it, it did need a tiny bit of nose weight adding to it to make it fly really nicely, but even so, it did still fly without that mod. As the old RC plane joke goes, everyone's first RC plane was a P-51 Mustang, but their second one was a trainer. ThusI'm inclined to think that as good as that Fw-190A looks, where beginners are concerned, Eachine might have been better going for a 190D or Ta152; the longer wings and fuselage of those variants would have probably made for a more stable and slower-flying model of a Focke-Wulf.
"Eachine" didn't "discontinue" anything - for the very pertinent reason that "Eachine" is only the in-house re-brand label that Banggood applies to the stuff it retails. The products could come out of ANY obscure factory. The 1 which was producing that 500mm brushed P-47 (and its stablemates the Mini Cessna and Mini Wing Dragon) really outdid themselves in producing dud models that quickly vanished from the marketplace. Sadly, the airframes were good but the electronics and their placement were pure doggie doo! The current 500mm brushless version of the P-51 from EXHOBBY/Volantex (the actual maker of all these 400mm Mini Warbirds) is probably a better base for what will no doubt be a similar series. They can fly slower but really need the gyro gains of the Xpilot stab system used on both the 400 and 500mm models reduced a bit, as the 500mm P-51 Volantex/Eachine/Wally Wombat? unit does flap its wings at top speed. For a slower trainer model the 400mm Trojan is better and the V761-4 high wing Sport Cub is still about the best there is out there for a raw crasher. (Sorry "beginner") 😉😊
I find that adding a nose weight to Volantex/Rage Rc/Eachine models fly significantly more stable. It's not necessarily the aircraft being "Twitchy" but rather some models I've flown have a heavy dihedral on top of being very lightweight which causes it to either do constant loops or wants to fight against you landing/keeping level. I've stuck a quarter under the nose on all my models and they fly very great in and out of safe mode and they land like a dream without having to cut the throttle nearly as much on approach. I was wondering if you wanted to showcase that in case someone were to know the trick on how to improve the Volantex aircrafts 🤔
A s an experienced pilot, These tiny planes can be very difficult to fly for any pilot. Any new pilot needs a good slow flying plane of decent size that flies well and can be easily seen. An Apprentice or a Timber are by far the bests trainers avail.
i have the Corsair, Mustang and Spitfire, eachine or similar makes, they are brilliant fun, and can fly anywhere, as only weigh 80 grams or so? i fly on 500 Ma batteries and 20-25 mins is well possible, but these batteries are to big for the Mustang, so its limited to a 350 ma, none of my models have working trim buttons, there just i candy, you have to tweek with pliers the metal bend to achieve what you want, these little planes fly well in 20Knt winds as well with the inboard giro working
We can agree to differ. For someone wanting to try RC I'd recommend these mini warbirds every time. Larger are generally more expensive and you need to buy the radio and charger separately.
Too small and too fast for my elderly novices. Even in your experienced hands I thought that the model was unstable in pitch. A high wing monoplane would be a much better option as a trainer.
I didn't say it was suitable as a 'trainer'. It's great for folks who have never TRIED RC flying before because it's cheap, scale looking and virtually indestructible. Yeah...if they want to properly learn RC flying and take a test to fly solo...sure, invest in much more expensive high wing trainer, join a club, get AMA/BMFA insurance...etc, etc
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i just bought one of these 190's and a 109. I'm glad to see it looks like it flys well. the FW190 is also my favorite plane ever. when i was a child of about 6 (back in the 70's) my older brother had spitfire and hurricane airfix models so of course i had to have the German planes. i always liked the look of the FW190 and was hand flying it around (doing the noises too) when my grandad who was my hero (he flew hurricanes in ww2) walked past and said "oooh an FW190 .. good planes they were"
and that was it , a simple statement like that started my love affair with Kurt Tanks legendary Butcher Bird. i have a parkzone 1100mm with retracts and drop tank , an fms 800mm and now this little one , cant wait to give it a fly :) , nice vid , thnx for showing us this lovely little warbird.
It is difficult advising a beginner to the hobby and something like this could wet their appetite to delve a little deeper, on the other hand it could put them off completely! What annoys me is when you see 'easy to fly' on the box. I think as experienced pilots we forget how difficult it is when you first start out 🤔
Either way Cliff anyone who tries the hobby is going to need quite a lot of persistence. Crashes will happen. I think these are so robust and with the stabilisation it at least gives the noob a chance of enjoying themselves and continuing to the next level.
I showed a friend who had seen these mine and flew it in the front yard while showing him my control inputs and what was happening. He's had toy grade rc cars before and shoot, runs an excavator so is used to remote control. Oh, I have a control line circle in my front yard so it's not small but there are too many trees on the edge. THEN I handed him the controls, made sure it was in beginner mode and threw it. He kept up with it for a couple minutes, panicked but stayed out of the trees THEN when it was coming back at us he told me he was ready for a break and wanted to hand it back to me. I told him to kill the throttle and let go of the controls. Landed itself about 20 feet away. Told him, flying in a football size field, he'd have 4 times as much room so no panic. He's flying his now. The only problem with entrepreneurs like him, with his first kid is, they tend to work all the darn time. But these ARE one of those anybody can fly things. transitioning to more Crunchy planes will be the next step but something like a Bixler, SkySurfer or whatever they call it, a pusher, high wing trainer like that, will be a breeze.
@@williamcrane8236 Thanks for sharing !
Well done review. And having watched about 1000 hours of your videos I finally got to see you fly something.😊
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You're welcome...😁
Carry on..
I started last June with a Zero and a Cub version (the cub had the same electronics and protocol) and learned so much from them.
I moved on to a Flite Test Tutor (with no gyro!) and UMX Timber Turbo Evo. With what I learned from my tiny planes I comfortably moved onto better planes and now have like 11 planes.
I'm even flying things like an EDF and a MFX Racer with ease when like 6 months ago I thought my Zero was fast lol.
This-un is 1 of the best of the V761 Minis that we've had, Dom. Flies very well. There have been a couple of "Upgrades" from the earlier V761s. The board now has the servos mounted 1 behind the other like the V76802 board in the Volantex 500mm brushless P-51s and it has a Find My Plane beeper on the board now. Everything else works as the rest of the recent iterations of the v2 V761s. Except that the pop-off prop system connectors are very slightly different now. The older system parts and props can be substituted though if need be. The large diameter engine cowl area should be a boon for folks wanting to change it to 2s brushless when the "modding" bug bites. 😉😊
Thats a cute looking FW-190 👍
Well done review. And having watched a 1000 hours of your videos I finally got to see you fly something.
😆 I do quite a lot of flying. Badly. But I do quite a lot of flying 🤣
Only issue for a beginner is the size and speed. Pretty easy to lose orientation.
What a cute thing. I have interest to build one.
My first RC plane was the Eachine P51. Easy to fly, for me, but only in Beginner or Intermediate mode. I even customised the livery to replicate a 3 Sqn RAAF plane lost in Italy.
I wonder if the bird on the side is a butcherbird?
definitelly on my list
Whilst these things are good for those new to the hobby in the sense that they are inexpensive, good to go straight out of the box and pretty robust if you crash them, they are nevertheless not quite so ideal for a beginner in being small and therefore having to fly pretty fast, with their size also making them not quite so easy to spot in terms of orientation. Things tend to happen a bit too fast for most beginners when flying these things although if one is the kind of person who likes to learn by being thrown in at the deep end, then they will do the job.
Personally, I think it's a great shame that Eachine discontinued its somewhat larger original P-47 Razorback model (which wasn't a razorback variant, but we'll ignore that) in favour of its now smaller P-47. Being extremely lightweight and larger than most current Eachine models, the older one was able to fly a lot slower than the current crop of Eachine warbirds. It looked very 'scale' in the air as a result of that, but more importantly for a beginner, the slower speeds possible with it made it a better choice for a beginner. On the downside for it, it did need a tiny bit of nose weight adding to it to make it fly really nicely, but even so, it did still fly without that mod.
As the old RC plane joke goes, everyone's first RC plane was a P-51 Mustang, but their second one was a trainer. ThusI'm inclined to think that as good as that Fw-190A looks, where beginners are concerned, Eachine might have been better going for a 190D or Ta152; the longer wings and fuselage of those variants would have probably made for a more stable and slower-flying model of a Focke-Wulf.
"Eachine" didn't "discontinue" anything - for the very pertinent reason that "Eachine" is only the in-house re-brand label that Banggood applies to the stuff it retails. The products could come out of ANY obscure factory. The 1 which was producing that 500mm brushed P-47 (and its stablemates the Mini Cessna and Mini Wing Dragon) really outdid themselves in producing dud models that quickly vanished from the marketplace. Sadly, the airframes were good but the electronics and their placement were pure doggie doo!
The current 500mm brushless version of the P-51 from EXHOBBY/Volantex (the actual maker of all these 400mm Mini Warbirds) is probably a better base for what will no doubt be a similar series. They can fly slower but really need the gyro gains of the Xpilot stab system used on both the 400 and 500mm models reduced a bit, as the 500mm P-51 Volantex/Eachine/Wally Wombat? unit does flap its wings at top speed.
For a slower trainer model the 400mm Trojan is better and the V761-4 high wing Sport Cub is still about the best there is out there for a raw crasher. (Sorry "beginner") 😉😊
I find that adding a nose weight to Volantex/Rage Rc/Eachine models fly significantly more stable. It's not necessarily the aircraft being "Twitchy" but rather some models I've flown have a heavy dihedral on top of being very lightweight which causes it to either do constant loops or wants to fight against you landing/keeping level. I've stuck a quarter under the nose on all my models and they fly very great in and out of safe mode and they land like a dream without having to cut the throttle nearly as much on approach. I was wondering if you wanted to showcase that in case someone were to know the trick on how to improve the Volantex aircrafts 🤔
A s an experienced pilot, These tiny planes can be very difficult to fly for any pilot. Any new pilot needs a good slow flying plane of decent size that flies well and can be easily seen. An Apprentice or a Timber are by far the bests trainers avail.
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Every time 😋😂
i have the Corsair, Mustang and Spitfire, eachine or similar makes, they are brilliant fun, and can fly anywhere, as only weigh 80 grams or so? i fly on 500 Ma batteries and 20-25 mins is well possible, but these batteries are to big for the Mustang, so its limited to a 350 ma, none of my models have working trim buttons, there just i candy, you have to tweek with pliers the metal bend to achieve what you want, these little planes fly well in 20Knt winds as well with the inboard giro working
coudint you put "drop" batteries on the mustang , just like in ww2 ,,
@@brianliggett9087 suppose you could,
Maybe as an experienced flyer you were pushing it a bit, but I thought it looked a little quick and twitchy for a beginner. Nice little kit tho.
In beginner mode it would be fine. Other aeroplanes wouldn't fly any slower than this.
I’d realistically recommend a simple, slower, larger 2 channel and throttle for a beginner not a zippy scale tiny warbird!
We can agree to differ. For someone wanting to try RC I'd recommend these mini warbirds every time. Larger are generally more expensive and you need to buy the radio and charger separately.
@@EssentialRCyeah totally disagree.
Too small and too fast for my elderly novices. Even in your experienced hands I thought that the model was unstable in pitch. A high wing monoplane would be a much better option as a trainer.
I didn't say it was suitable as a 'trainer'. It's great for folks who have never TRIED RC flying before because it's cheap, scale looking and virtually indestructible. Yeah...if they want to properly learn RC flying and take a test to fly solo...sure, invest in much more expensive high wing trainer, join a club, get AMA/BMFA insurance...etc, etc