Dusty Korpse they will definitely need to bring alot of microbes fungal spores, and certain insects if they hope to set up functional green houses on Mars.
The Fresh Tsar not the entire planet, our technology is no where near advanced to do that. Google eden project. I imagine it would be similar to that. Giant eco bubbles to get us started. Producing a viable atmosphere is the main issues. Good thing about fungus etc is they deal with radiation very well. Planet earth use to have mushrooms 2 meters tall, hundreds of thousands of years ago. This is what aided in breaking down rock into complex soil for things to grow. (This is a much simplified version of events)
This is a great experiment. It tests out a huge part of the Arean biosphere issue. But as I note Little Cripple below, we have to deal with more than the plants and the macro life (earthworms), and that bacteria, proctista and fungi are all essential co-inhabitants that we need to have in the new biosphere. APPLAUSE to Dr. Wieger Wamelink!
Worms are the og lifeforms though. Atleast, when it comes to lifeforms that support more life, they are. This would only be the first step. I'm sure the fungi and etc. would come later. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Michael Hauser exactly. Earth flat with a dome. You guys have been far indoctrinated. Just answer me this. How does a rocket propel in space, of space is a vacuum?
Seekingtruth "How does a rocket propel in space, [if] space is a vacuum?" Ooh, that's one I know! The answer is "better than it does in a non-vacuum". I mean: a rocket will work in lots of places, even underwater. But it will work much better in space because there's no drag to slow it down there like there would be in air or water. It's planes that don't work in a vacuum, because their wings wouldn't generate any lift. Also for a jet there'd be no air complete with oxygen to be sucked into the front of the engines and mixed with the fuel to create combustion. Propellers wouldn't work for pretty much the same reason that wings don't - there's nothing for them to gain traction against. Balloons would burst unless they were made of super-strong material, and in any case they wouldn't have any buoyancy in a vacuum. So, not only do rockets work, they're pretty much the only thing that does.
Martin Gradwell I find your answer to be completely filled with fanciful pseudoscience explanations thoughtfully put together. Non of those conditions are anything close to comparing to here on earth. Space is supposedly the complete opposite of earth. Here let me give you a video with the explanation.
We can add Hydroponics/soil less farming as a part of the mix, especially for leafy vegetables and other small crops. The earthworm manure would be of great help to that too.
I just hope that we "DON'T HAVE TO LIVE ON MARS!" All the dark things invisioned on the internet like idiot governments, magnet flips, climate change nuclear wars, uncaring irresponsibe powerful people who need throttling, alliens eating us,other things Coron Virus, and like The End Times. Gee there only 7 billion us. Can Mars even hold all of us, including all our dogs, cats, fowls, cows, pigs, horses, sea creatures, and who is going to be left behind. Some of us might be afraid to go or stay. Sounds like another great movie or novel to me. It's cold and snowing in Wisconsin, (and we've had easy so far this year. Lets see if we can expand on this. Lets see...the background could be The is speeding up in warming,or the next Ice Age strikes quickily, or a comet hits or Panet Nine or Oumuamua or a Black Hole is going eat us. That could be Part or chapter One. Then just as we got all those problems solved an ancient super intelleigent undersea beings fleeing the increasingly poisonous oceans attack followed vocanic eruption like the permian extinction, the Earth stops asthe crust slips over the mantle and all human history is all but erased from the planet and eons later some evolved orange oranatangs from New York marvel at a tilted over Statue Of Liberty pondering history Meanwhile on Mars.....It could be a great Winter Project, Who Knows could be a Classic. Whatya think?
Keep in mind, going to Mars is a one way trip. I refer to people who actually land on the planet. First, initially there would be no way to "lift off" once you got there. Secondly, if you were able to successfully survive on Mars for an extended period of time, your bones and muscles would weaken in the lighter gravity. Therefore, if you did return to earth, earth's gravity would be so strong on your body you would barely be able to stand up. This is actually the premise for the movie; The Space Between Us. So once you became a "Martian" there's no returning to earth.
Future tech development with exo-skeleton/exo-suits could negate that problem enabling Martians to have Earth-norm strength. Also future tech development of genetic engineering & nanotech could be useful too.
While that may be accurate, it is very unlikely that someone born on Mars would want to wear an exo-suit all their life on the odd chance they may visit earth someday. Keep in mind, these are little kids we're referring to. So when these Martian kids grown up to be adults, their bodies will have adapted to a planet with 62% less gravity than on earth. Life on Mars would feel "normal" to them. A normal adult on Mars could weigh 200 lbs, but on earth they would feel like they weighed 600 lbs. That is just the effect on their muscles, the effects on their internal organs would be massive too. Just like in the movie, The Space Between Us, people born on Mars would not be able to survive on earth for an extended period of time. Therefore, going to Mars, and living there, is a one way trip.
What makes you so sure that a mars trip would be a one way journey? SpaceX has plans of being able to mine methane gas and refuel for a trip home. It is likely that the first people on mars will stay for 2 years at a time before returning. But yes you are right that a person born on mars would have significant difficulty living on earth after living on mars. But I suspect that the first martian colonies would have rules against reproduction, because of the increased chance of birth deformities from the low gravity.
The issue you refer to is technical. It is easier to launch a rocket off Mars due to lower escape velocity. Easier than off the Earth. However you have to have all the fuel etc there and that's the problem you refer to.
I'm reading the white coloration of the Hellas Basin as absolutely optimal, since that's what the surrounding topology of color alludes to. Which is great-- lowest elevation, highest atmospheric pressure. I mainly came here to make sure my ideas about humanity settling in the north-west edge of Hellas Planitia weren't torpedoed by the factors this team was looking at.
@@siren7561 funny how perspective matters. I find it more nihilist and sarcastic. Maybe it was it intended to be factual and dismissive. Maybe i ate too many quarters when I was a kid.
One thing wasn't mentioned. I don't consider it as a good idea to live anywhere north. If Mars is terraformed and the ice melts there'll be an ocean in the North (apart from one large landmass within the ocean) there'll of course be rivers and lakes in the south (some are huge, essentially sea's). Its easy to figure it out based on NASA's current data in relation to elevation and ice deposits. Of course terraforming is a very ambitious idea, it may never be possible. But if it does happen it would be sad to see mars's first colony under the ocean (or sea/lake)
I did my own research as a architect who has a strong interest in the mars colony settlement location. i loved this video very much and its very correct about the impacts that have affected the other side of the planet. Please correct me if i am wrong, but i think the strong wind factor hasn't been considered that important, or maybe it has. But if i was to settle on mars (Note: elon musk) it would be in 1. Amazonis Planitia - Emenides Dorsum. or 2. Orcus Patera or 3. Hyblaeus Dorsa 4. Totting (away from the wind, close enough to a shielding crater and a flat plain to access water. I've seen the current wind forces video (2022) flow (used to be water) straight down from the north to Acidalia Planitia (hence the flat plains) into the channels of Valles maineris, and flow back out again. The wind would then idle around arabia terra, and continue to head north to join the powerful wind currents of the north. staying clear of these winds, would be like living off the fault lines here on earth.
There could be a problem: the ice on mars might contain not only organisms but possibly diseases we don’t know about. We gotta be careful when messing with mars.
I'm watching the Martian with Matt Damon as I watch this. 😃. And by the way, at 36,000 mph it only takes between 1.3 months (closest possible approach) - 9.6 (furthest possible approach) months to get there, not 10.
Jason Maza not really, SOME things are wrong. A couple BIG things, but, not the entire movie. Scientists have actually praised the movie for it's scientific accuracy.
CJ I revised my original post to say that at the closest possible approach the trip would only take 39 days. That is, if the space ship was going 36,000 mph.
Yeah technically you could "arrive" at mars in 39 days if you accelerated enough. But you have to remember that space is essentially friction-less, which means that if you don't slow down before you arrive, you will either fly right past mars into empty space, or crash into mars at 36,000mph. But even if you did burn your engines backwards to bleed off all that horizontal velocity, you wouldn't have enough fuel to land on mars, or even return to earth. That is why most trips to mars take ~10 months, because they want to make the trip as efficient as possible.
This was before the discovery of the heavy load of perchlorates in Martian regolith. It's a theoretically surmountable problem but will take a lot of water to leach them out.
I wish there would have been some mention of the consequences of perchlorate in the soil. He’s been doing these experiments for 5 years-did they even know about the presence of perchlorate in Martian soil 5 years ago?
It seems to the elephant in the room no one talks about. I'm sure there is some way to neutralise it, but you're the first comment so far I've seen on it. (Maybe others.) As I understand it, the Moon doesn't have that issue so maybe we should try colonizing there first.
username1nmillion yes because the temperature reach 200+ c at day and -100 c at night. the electronic chips won't be able to endure such agressive temperatures. the pole might be a cooler spot for a base maybe ?
[GD] Dj4dasher well uh considering oil is made from million year old decaying organic matter , and life on Mars at any point is slim.....oil......won't be found easily
As if. Why not try an experimental colony on the moon first? It’s a no-brainer and yet... nothing. We haven’t been to the moon since 1972? 1976? And we’re gonna live on Mars? Give me a fucking break.
'76? Try '71. There are middle aged people who have spent their entire lives without seeing a moon landing. Even people I know who can remember them tend to be old. You'd have to be fifty something to remember the first one now.
@@月-o8c7i The Moon is a lot easier to get to, and easier to get off. Some of the challenges are identical, such as abrasive dust. p.s. Isn't that the character for the moon?
Jessie Lacue Well in ways it’s true, we could only send so much food there along with the astronauts, they require to grow crops or else they would run out. Obviously we need more crops than just potatoes though 😂 that wouldn’t be the best diet!
Jessie Lacue you CAN actually survive with just potatoes though. They are the most nutricious and calorie-filled natural growable food. Why'd you think the potato famine was so catastrophic. Although yes we'd need more then just potatoes.
What about the toxic perchlorates known to be present in the Martian soil? How would this affect crop growth? Is there a way of breaking these toxins in the soil down prior to edible agricultural processing?
You keep dream on about people one day livig in mars while ignoring the existence of low class citizens that are pretty much in need of social and economic reforms. There are people still eating dirt in Haiti, trash in the Philippines, Indonesia, India....
There will be an Internet, there just won't be live communication with Earth. So if Fortnite is that important to you then you just need to delay going until there is a sizeable Fortnite community on Mars.
SkyGaruda thats why we search lower spots, more atmos above you is more scattering. Is it still a problem and will we get cancer? Yes, but hey, technology keeps advancing and AM Radio gives a man made magnetosphere, as recent papers suggest
Chusm3itor 666 no... that takes a few generations, the first children will be taller, thinner bones and will have a weaker heart. After that, a big question, but the first kids, and all the martians after that, will not be able to go to earth, the just cant handle 1G of gravity, thier bones break, and thier heart will fail
Dead? Explain how we all the sudden go extinct. Nuclear bombs don't even have the potential if that's what you are talking about. Unless you are talking about in our lifespan, which i personally believe that healthcare in our lifetime will increase drastically allowing you to live for periods longer than we can imagine now.
Jason Maza it'll actually happen in most of our lifetimes. NASA, Mars One, and Space X already have plans, which they are going for, to send humans to Mars in at least the 2030s or 2040s.
maskofsanitycob Let's kill a dead planet? We need to seed it with life first to do that. And I say on the rare chance we are the only life in the galaxy then it's our duty to spread life. It would be a shame to only have it on the one planet when this galaxy has billions. Such wasted space don't you think?
Overpopulation is a problem. If every human was to live the same quality of life as the average American we would need 7 more earth's and with a growing population and countries developing faster than before sustainability will become a serious problem. There's a huge world out there that we need to discover.
I agree. This is pure nonsense, fantasy shit. And btw the moon is right there, mars is far, and is a dead planet. Not the same. This is foolishness to even attempt.
How can anyone not want to go to Mars, doesn't the idea of a potential monolithic historical event and just getting out farther than we've ever been excite everyone ? I guess ignorance is bliss. I feel the more you can learn and know the better you are for it.
The first stage of Martian colonization would probably include efforts to seed plants and bacteria on the areas that are most habitable. I would start by selectively breeding/genetically modifying plants that would be able to make the most of the Martian conditions. That way the later stages would have richer soil cultivated by years of plant growth and decay. Not to mention it would be a small step forward in possibly terraforming the planet. Mostly simple hardy plants. Mosses, grasses, lichens, fungi, shrubs, small trees would have to wait a while.
The big problem is air. Mars has less than 1/100th the atmosphere that Earth has. Therefore the farms must all be indoors within cobtrolled environments.
How did you get around the very high iron and aluminum content of the soil that permiates most of the soil on mars. Along with the windblown sand deposits that now cover the entire planet and murderous low PH? Found all over and murderous to bacteria giving the entire planet its rusted metal color. Also how do you remove the irradiated H3 that permiates almost the entire surface exept under the CO2 poles and lava tube caves? Would washing the soil work? What chemicals would be used? How much of them and how. Much do they weight?
Most likely where the small spots of magnetic field that are still left is strongest. We kind of need that to survive, without tons of drilling and lots of shielding.
While I can potentially see small colony's on Mars the biggest obstacle is radiation and atmosphere, especially long term to even potentially make anything other than a very advanced expensive small science "colony" possible. And even then it might meet complete failure or very minor success. Gravity can be an issue as well though I think finding a long term solution to it will be considerably easier though it would certainly cause problems early on. In short we can maybe establish small science colony (probably never more than 10-25 people) in the next 30 years but making long term civilian or commercial colony's wont come for much longer or potentially never.
*"Where on Earth would we live on Mars?"*
-my dad
Berero Dimet ROTFLMAOOOOO 😂😂😂
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In Antarctica seriously there is a valley that look a like mars
@@seb9636 omg mario hi
@@plant5875 he look a like a man
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aaaand "The flat Mars society" is born
The flat Mars society has members all around the Globe.
Xenon all around the GLOBE
hahahah i an still dead becuase of their Twitter post 😂
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Y e s
Kevo Morider we need to bring all the flat earthers to mars so they can see that earth is round
If we take earthworms to mars then they would be called marsworms
This
GamerOfCringe but when they are in space they are called spaceworms. BOOM!
you win the internet
I was thinking of this 8 weeks ago
Would they really though? Aren't they called earthworms because they live in the earth? (by earth I mean the soil, not the planet)
Salute to these kind of dedicated peoples
Why the hell he look like Matt Damon? What's going on here
Bill Clinton Meet me in the Oral Office best username of the century .
Wish i thought of that dammit
Something is worng XD 😂😂😂😂
Bill Clinton Meet me in the Oral Office matt damon's nazi cousin
n00bie he is dutch not nazi
Igor Gubanov same whatever
Mushrooms/fungus mycelium helps bond and make healthier soil. Just a thought.
Dusty Korpse they will definitely need to bring alot of microbes fungal spores, and certain insects if they hope to set up functional green houses on Mars.
Wouldn't it take ages litterally?
Do you think they are colonizing the entire planet? As in, just throwing mushrooms and worms into the soil?
The Fresh Tsar not the entire planet, our technology is no where near advanced to do that. Google eden project. I imagine it would be similar to that. Giant eco bubbles to get us started. Producing a viable atmosphere is the main issues. Good thing about fungus etc is they deal with radiation very well. Planet earth use to have mushrooms 2 meters tall, hundreds of thousands of years ago. This is what aided in breaking down rock into complex soil for things to grow. (This is a much simplified version of events)
I know it isnt. Thats why I was asking him.
This is a great experiment. It tests out a huge part of the Arean biosphere issue.
But as I note Little Cripple below, we have to deal with more than the plants and the macro life (earthworms), and that bacteria, proctista and fungi are all essential co-inhabitants that we need to have in the new biosphere.
APPLAUSE to Dr. Wieger Wamelink!
Worms are the og lifeforms though. Atleast, when it comes to lifeforms that support more life, they are.
This would only be the first step. I'm sure the fungi and etc. would come later.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
We are comin' Mars!!
Shiva Reddy nah u gonna stay in earth
Michael Hauser exactly. Earth flat with a dome. You guys have been far indoctrinated. Just answer me this. How does a rocket propel in space, of space is a vacuum?
Seekingtruth "How does a rocket propel in space, [if] space is a vacuum?" Ooh, that's one I know! The answer is "better than it does in a non-vacuum". I mean: a rocket will work in lots of places, even underwater. But it will work much better in space because there's no drag to slow it down there like there would be in air or water.
It's planes that don't work in a vacuum, because their wings wouldn't generate any lift. Also for a jet there'd be no air complete with oxygen to be sucked into the front of the engines and mixed with the fuel to create combustion. Propellers wouldn't work for pretty much the same reason that wings don't - there's nothing for them to gain traction against. Balloons would burst unless they were made of super-strong material, and in any case they wouldn't have any buoyancy in a vacuum. So, not only do rockets work, they're pretty much the only thing that does.
Seekingtruth dude, I hope that's ironic:D
Martin Gradwell I find your answer to be completely filled with fanciful pseudoscience explanations thoughtfully put together.
Non of those conditions are anything close to comparing to here on earth. Space is supposedly the complete opposite of earth. Here let me give you a video with the explanation.
This is a really good effort for the future of humanity!!! Thank you
I hope that our generation will have the chance to live on Mars
It wont if Kim Jong Fuck declares nuclear war on the entire planet
I think anybody who was born after the year 2000 will have a solid chance of going to Mars.
I’m 15 time to experience life 😃
You guys arent going to experience shit but a sad life, You arent special or smart enough to go to mars. Sorry 😐
We must because WWIII seems to be imminent
What about lower gravity and its effect on crops?
Aurora Jones. I think they have grown some plants in the international space station so lower gravity shouldn't be a problem.
Jami Rahkonen Yeah they have, I’m pretty sure they just tied the plant down in a small capsule thing.
Aurora Jones
Lower gravity = taller crops
So we need artificial sunlight ;) in the first years/decades :)
we call that LED panels
We can add Hydroponics/soil less farming as a part of the mix, especially for leafy vegetables and other small crops. The earthworm manure would be of great help to that too.
EARTH- worms on MARS.
Ironic.
Rythlar slight problem is the worms will mutate and turn into the giant worms in Dune. Happens every time earth worms are fed shards of glass dirt.
"Soil-worms" then? haha
Let the spice flow.
Then natural selection turns the earth worms into mars worms
I just hope that we "DON'T HAVE TO LIVE ON MARS!" All the dark things invisioned on the internet like idiot governments, magnet flips, climate change nuclear wars, uncaring irresponsibe powerful people who need throttling, alliens eating us,other things Coron Virus, and like The End Times.
Gee there only 7 billion us. Can Mars even hold all of us, including all our dogs, cats, fowls, cows, pigs, horses, sea creatures, and who is going to be left behind. Some of us might be afraid to go or stay. Sounds like another great movie or novel to me. It's cold and snowing in Wisconsin, (and we've had easy so far this year. Lets see if we can expand on this. Lets see...the background could be The is speeding up in warming,or the next Ice Age strikes quickily, or a comet hits or Panet Nine or Oumuamua or a Black Hole is going eat us. That could be Part or chapter One. Then just as we got all those problems solved an ancient super intelleigent undersea beings fleeing the increasingly poisonous oceans attack followed vocanic eruption like the permian extinction, the Earth stops asthe crust slips over the mantle and all human history is all but erased from the planet and eons later some evolved orange oranatangs from New York marvel at a tilted over Statue Of Liberty pondering history Meanwhile on Mars.....It could be a great Winter Project, Who Knows could be a Classic. Whatya think?
So early a flat earther hasnt seen this yet as 0 dislikes
I'm a FLAT MARSer. 😂
No, Mars is flat.
random stuff lol to true
random stuff flat tire Maybe
random stuff it’s still flat. Answer me this. How do rockets propel in a vacuum such as space? It’s impossible.
sOIL
OIL
Alonso Aguirre *FREEDOM INTENSIFIES*
Ah. It is all so clear now.
Someone say OIL?
Now you said that, America will be there in *0.000000000001 NANOSECONDS*
We need to bring liberty to mars!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for putting info in the description, makes it easier to read through and summarise after the video has finished.
Keep in mind, going to Mars is a one way trip.
I refer to people who actually land on the planet.
First, initially there would be no way to "lift off" once you got there.
Secondly, if you were able to successfully survive on Mars for an extended period of time, your bones and muscles would weaken in the lighter gravity.
Therefore, if you did return to earth, earth's gravity would be so strong on your body you would barely be able to stand up.
This is actually the premise for the movie; The Space Between Us.
So once you became a "Martian" there's no returning to earth.
KreativeCanada sadly, I've never seen that movie and I've wanted to.
Future tech development with exo-skeleton/exo-suits could negate that problem enabling Martians to have Earth-norm strength. Also future tech development of genetic engineering & nanotech could be useful too.
While that may be accurate, it is very unlikely that someone born on Mars would want to wear an exo-suit all their life on the odd chance they may visit earth someday.
Keep in mind, these are little kids we're referring to.
So when these Martian kids grown up to be adults, their bodies will have adapted to a planet with 62% less gravity than on earth.
Life on Mars would feel "normal" to them.
A normal adult on Mars could weigh 200 lbs, but on earth they would feel like they weighed 600 lbs. That is just the effect on their muscles, the effects on their internal organs would be massive too.
Just like in the movie, The Space Between Us, people born on Mars would not be able to survive on earth for an extended period of time.
Therefore, going to Mars, and living there, is a one way trip.
What makes you so sure that a mars trip would be a one way journey? SpaceX has plans of being able to mine methane gas and refuel for a trip home. It is likely that the first people on mars will stay for 2 years at a time before returning. But yes you are right that a person born on mars would have significant difficulty living on earth after living on mars. But I suspect that the first martian colonies would have rules against reproduction, because of the increased chance of birth deformities from the low gravity.
The issue you refer to is technical. It is easier to launch a rocket off Mars due to lower escape velocity. Easier than off the Earth. However you have to have all the fuel etc there and that's the problem you refer to.
I'm reading the white coloration of the Hellas Basin as absolutely optimal, since that's what the surrounding topology of color alludes to. Which is great-- lowest elevation, highest atmospheric pressure. I mainly came here to make sure my ideas about humanity settling in the north-west edge of Hellas Planitia weren't torpedoed by the factors this team was looking at.
"We are closer to landing on mars than ever before"
... Its called time. Every second that goes by brings us closer. Lol
Lmao why do u sound romantic and cheesy?
@@siren7561 funny how perspective matters.
I find it more nihilist and sarcastic.
Maybe it was it intended to be factual and dismissive.
Maybe i ate too many quarters when I was a kid.
Thank you, Man, for your time you spent on such research!
Can’t wait for the first human will fly to Mars
NEDERLANDUR
ja toen ik hem hoorde had ik het ook door
Lekker
FAWAKA NL ERS
Wanneer je Wageningen University hoort en dan gewoon weet dat er zo'n slecht Nederlands-Engels accent komt.
Hahahaha yeah
Hats off to the Dutch for coming up with the solutions for growing food on Mars. Echt mooi!!!🇳🇱
We must send ton of worm not a human
danu alkansa YES, I expect you now to make a Movie to be shown on the Cinemas worldwide for all of us to see called *Planet of the WORMS* lol 😉😎
What if in few years they suddenly turn into giant monster worms
Woof Woof SHITTING HELL
What if they mutate into those giant worms like in tremors
Jason Maza And how will they do that?
Very interesting and insightful video. Thanks Guys
Mars is *F L A T*
😂😂😂
Pranay Ramesh flat Eathers now days 😂
Pranay Ramesh nah it's obviously a square.
Ahh...Here We Go Again!
Mars geometrically cube 😂😂😂
One thing wasn't mentioned. I don't consider it as a good idea to live anywhere north. If Mars is terraformed and the ice melts there'll be an ocean in the North (apart from one large landmass within the ocean) there'll of course be rivers and lakes in the south (some are huge, essentially sea's). Its easy to figure it out based on NASA's current data in relation to elevation and ice deposits. Of course terraforming is a very ambitious idea, it may never be possible. But if it does happen it would be sad to see mars's first colony under the ocean (or sea/lake)
Man I love the Dutch accent of this guy 😂
Martian regolith contains alkaline perchlorate, and potatoes like acid soil. Thanks for the interesting video.
Wow 2 comment wars in one day? First the evolution video with the creationists now this video with the flat earthers and moon landing deniers?
I did my own research as a architect who has a strong interest in the mars colony settlement location. i loved this video very much and its very correct about the impacts that have affected the other side of the planet. Please correct me if i am wrong, but i think the strong wind factor hasn't been considered that important, or maybe it has.
But if i was to settle on mars (Note: elon musk) it would be in 1. Amazonis Planitia - Emenides Dorsum. or 2. Orcus Patera or 3. Hyblaeus Dorsa 4. Totting (away from the wind, close enough to a shielding crater and a flat plain to access water.
I've seen the current wind forces video (2022) flow (used to be water) straight down from the north to Acidalia Planitia (hence the flat plains) into the channels of Valles maineris, and flow back out again.
The wind would then idle around arabia terra, and continue to head north to join the powerful wind currents of the north. staying clear of these winds, would be like living off the fault lines here on earth.
99999 years later. Still on moon.
There could be a problem: the ice on mars might contain not only organisms but possibly diseases we don’t know about. We gotta be careful when messing with mars.
They gonna get martian fever
These diseases would take very long to adapt to us
now I know where to colonize in surviving mars.
Me 2 thx
Fantastic news! Kudos to Wamelink!
I'm watching the Martian with Matt Damon as I watch this. 😃. And by the way, at 36,000 mph it only takes between 1.3 months (closest possible approach) - 9.6 (furthest possible approach) months to get there, not 10.
Verisimilitude Dude everything with that movie is wrong
Jason Maza not really, SOME things are wrong. A couple BIG things, but, not the entire movie. Scientists have actually praised the movie for it's scientific accuracy.
Verisimilitude Dude *90 days at the closest window
CJ I revised my original post to say that at the closest possible approach the trip would only take 39 days. That is, if the space ship was going 36,000 mph.
Yeah technically you could "arrive" at mars in 39 days if you accelerated enough. But you have to remember that space is essentially friction-less, which means that if you don't slow down before you arrive, you will either fly right past mars into empty space, or crash into mars at 36,000mph. But even if you did burn your engines backwards to bleed off all that horizontal velocity, you wouldn't have enough fuel to land on mars, or even return to earth. That is why most trips to mars take ~10 months, because they want to make the trip as efficient as possible.
This was before the discovery of the heavy load of perchlorates in Martian regolith. It's a theoretically surmountable problem but will take a lot of water to leach them out.
As I understand it, they're alkalis, so they probably need something acidic to neutralise the PH
Will there be WiFi connections?
Yeah, but they'll be like 3x as tall
This guy is the real MVP. Props to them. 👏
Take break
Eat cake ❤
I don't like cake though. lol
And there will be a Flat Mars Theory...
I'm 18, can i volunteer to colonize Mars?
Inacio CM think you missed the list.
Are you professional?
ケンジン a professional 18?
Inacio CM. I remember reading in a news article just last week that a Dutch(?) company is currently looking for volunteers to a Mars mission.
Just join SpaceX
But what about the deadly perchlorates found in great amounts in the martian soil? did he take that into account?
Might*
Self landing rockets are Musky aren’t they
Self landing rockets have landed like 20 times now. Only one failure has happened recently, and that was on an experimental vehicle.
I wish there would have been some mention of the consequences of perchlorate in the soil. He’s been doing these experiments for 5 years-did they even know about the presence of perchlorate in Martian soil 5 years ago?
It seems to the elephant in the room no one talks about. I'm sure there is some way to neutralise it, but you're the first comment so far I've seen on it. (Maybe others.) As I understand it, the Moon doesn't have that issue so maybe we should try colonizing there first.
what about the moon?
where can we make a base there?
Ahmed hamza I heard *ONLY as a base station for Astronauts* for their rockets/spaceships to re-fuel.
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yes because the temperature reach 200+ c at day and -100 c at night. the electronic chips won't be able to endure such agressive temperatures.
the pole might be a cooler spot for a base maybe ?
what about the chlorates in the soil would it not be kind of dangerous to directly eat the first crop?
Build a McDonald's on mars, problem solved
McDonalds ought to patent their M for Space travel colonists etc 🙏
What about perchlorates? That’s a big issue for toxicity to food grown with mars soil
you should use potato "tower" on mars
My kid asks me in 2040,"Where do you work daddy?"
Oh I work on mars.
Opinion poll: will we get to mars before the North pole melts.
(Your opinion does not matter)
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As a future Mars farmer, I had thought I would have to rely on hydroponics... this is very good news.... thanks for the video...
Where we live on mars is determined by which area has the most oil
And if there is no oil we won’t live on mars
[GD] Dj4dasher why?
Dumbass
Join us in the present you god dam fossil
[GD] Dj4dasher well uh considering oil is made from million year old decaying organic matter , and life on Mars at any point is slim.....oil......won't be found easily
Ah yes wise man
I want to visit Mars, but i'm scared to never comeback home. and nice video by the way ^^ I like it
Elon Musk will be the first martian😉
Air Elegant no, not
First Martian will be a scientist who lands first on Mars 😂✊🏽
Air Elegant Elon musk isnt gunna risk getting diseases and cancer so he’ll send an astronaut
Can Trump be the second?
he's not gonna go. which is fine since he's the idea man. if he does it'd probably be when he's a bit older.
Jason Maza That sounded so evil 😂
we were way closer to getting to mars in the 60's when the space hype and support was real
As if. Why not try an experimental colony on the moon first? It’s a no-brainer and yet... nothing. We haven’t been to the moon since 1972? 1976? And we’re gonna live on Mars? Give me a fucking break.
There are too many problems with a moon colony. Mars is close enough with a good enough atmosphere.
'76? Try '71. There are middle aged people who have spent their entire lives without seeing a moon landing. Even people I know who can remember them tend to be old. You'd have to be fifty something to remember the first one now.
@@月-o8c7i The Moon is a lot easier to get to, and easier to get off. Some of the challenges are identical, such as abrasive dust. p.s. Isn't that the character for the moon?
Great job mate😎
So your telling me mars is closer than ever because your trying to figure out how to grow a large potato 🤔
Jessie Lacue Well in ways it’s true, we could only send so much food there along with the astronauts, they require to grow crops or else they would run out. Obviously we need more crops than just potatoes though 😂 that wouldn’t be the best diet!
Jessie Lacue you CAN actually survive with just potatoes though. They are the most nutricious and calorie-filled natural growable food. Why'd you think the potato famine was so catastrophic.
Although yes we'd need more then just potatoes.
Yes
yes. it's called food. something critical to survival.
He really deserves great funding
Only vegans on Mars ?
I'm usually not a gmo supporter. But in this circumstance, seems like the best way to go.
I wonder if those flat earthers also think mars is flat 👌🤔 . Also we will live wherever the richest soil is or the most oil 🤔
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What about the toxic perchlorates known to be present in the Martian soil? How would this affect crop growth? Is there a way of breaking these toxins in the soil down prior to edible agricultural processing?
You keep dream on about people one day livig in mars while ignoring the existence of low class citizens that are pretty much in need of social and economic reforms. There are people still eating dirt in Haiti, trash in the Philippines, Indonesia, India....
Theres not gnna be internet on mars which means no fortnite so i'm not interested
There will be an Internet, there just won't be live communication with Earth. So if Fortnite is that important to you then you just need to delay going until there is a sizeable Fortnite community on Mars.
Cool, I haven't seen any concrete news about Mars One in a long time. Not even their newsletter has had that ineresting news.
I'm gonna stay on earth coz all those business people would be on mars who ruined earth for money. And we can stay here in peace.
Lil' Nap das wut am sayin yo
ok I thought I was gonna be alone. But you can join me too.
If we stay here we be dead in a million years;)
Star line STUDIOS Im gonna die in 50 years anyways.
Lil' Nap Maybe we have more tech in the future and we can re-vive people like u;)
will it be a triumph of our species when we create the first urban slum area on Mars?
I don't want to live in Mars......right?
Star line STUDIOS Right, but you might want to live ON mars.
Because of our thing'global warming';(
But......but....in 5 billion years the sun will destroy everything on the red planet........but oh well.....screw you life
North Korea Goverment he's black, so no dad
elektron117 racist
0:54 that voice crack tho
Neil deGrass Tyson said it wouldn't happen
I have more than two likes? My life is complete
He could be wrong, you never know
UK Ball yes 👌
Try growing sweet potatoes. You can eat the leaves like spinach. Japanees sweet potatoes have a nice flavor as compared to the regular orange ones
Why in these "Martian videos" nobody mentioning lack of magnetosphere and severe radiation, is that on purpose or people really that dumb?
There are ways around the radiation problems. For example, we could live a couple of meters below the ground or in special tents.
So what the point to live on Mars then? ))) And there is no "special tents" BTW xD
SkyGaruda thats why we search lower spots, more atmos above you is more scattering. Is it still a problem and will we get cancer? Yes, but hey, technology keeps advancing and AM Radio gives a man made magnetosphere, as recent papers suggest
SkyGaruda and the lack of gravity , living in a few years there "humans" will look like aliens to us
Chusm3itor 666 no... that takes a few generations, the first children will be taller, thinner bones and will have a weaker heart. After that, a big question, but the first kids, and all the martians after that, will not be able to go to earth, the just cant handle 1G of gravity, thier bones break, and thier heart will fail
Good work!
We will never make it to mars smh
We will see, yes. We will see.
NoGameLIMITS we wont see because we’ll be dead
Dead? Explain how we all the sudden go extinct. Nuclear bombs don't even have the potential if that's what you are talking about. Unless you are talking about in our lifespan, which i personally believe that healthcare in our lifetime will increase drastically allowing you to live for periods longer than we can imagine now.
Jason Maza it'll actually happen in most of our lifetimes. NASA, Mars One, and Space X already have plans, which they are going for, to send humans to Mars in at least the 2030s or 2040s.
You do know we have multiple rovers there right?
I’m doing a research project about this
First we should learn to live properly on Earth!!
I agree, until a global disaster happens and we all die. So I believe being a muti-planetary species is in our best interest.
Genius Jaguar first get humans on Mars. Then worry. Cause if a catastrophic event happens on Earth before we are on Mars, we'd be dead.
He really did a great job 👍👍👍
Fix earth no need to go to mars lol
Axel Sama this. people are stupid yeah like lets to another planet and kill it geeeze!
Even with a perfect Earth to have a backup for human and animal life is a smart option. Asteroids etc.
maskofsanitycob Let's kill a dead planet? We need to seed it with life first to do that. And I say on the rare chance we are the only life in the galaxy then it's our duty to spread life. It would be a shame to only have it on the one planet when this galaxy has billions. Such wasted space don't you think?
Overpopulation is a problem. If every human was to live the same quality of life as the average American we would need 7 more earth's and with a growing population and countries developing faster than before sustainability will become a serious problem. There's a huge world out there that we need to discover.
asteroid -- What earth?
Have you ever counted with perchlorates in the soil? The biggest problem with Mars?
People won't be living in Mars. Nonsense.
Rekordea ikr, it's on Mars. Maybe "in" but that's for the people in the future to decide.
Mars will probably just an option, or in some cases like disasters.
I agree. This is pure nonsense, fantasy shit. And btw the moon is right there, mars is far, and is a dead planet. Not the same. This is foolishness to even attempt.
Rekordea I take your words for 10 years from now.
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This was such a cool video
How will we deal with Mars temperatures and the water necessary for plants?
How can anyone not want to go to Mars, doesn't the idea of a potential monolithic historical event and just getting out farther than we've ever been excite everyone ? I guess ignorance is bliss. I feel the more you can learn and know the better you are for it.
The first stage of Martian colonization would probably include efforts to seed plants and bacteria on the areas that are most habitable. I would start by selectively breeding/genetically modifying plants that would be able to make the most of the Martian conditions. That way the later stages would have richer soil cultivated by years of plant growth and decay. Not to mention it would be a small step forward in possibly terraforming the planet. Mostly simple hardy plants. Mosses, grasses, lichens, fungi, shrubs, small trees would have to wait a while.
how about the gravity of mars wouldnt it affect the growing rate of the plant?
and the bacterias that help plants live
The big problem is air. Mars has less than 1/100th the atmosphere that Earth has. Therefore the farms must all be indoors within cobtrolled environments.
His face reminds me of Mark Watney from The Martian jee :)))
How did you get around the very high iron and aluminum content of the soil that permiates most of the soil on mars. Along with the windblown sand deposits that now cover the entire planet and murderous low PH? Found all over and murderous to bacteria giving the entire planet its rusted metal color. Also how do you remove the irradiated H3 that permiates almost the entire surface exept under the CO2 poles and lava tube caves? Would washing the soil work? What chemicals would be used? How much of them and how. Much do they weight?
There is good indirect evidence that something is already living on Mars. Probably microbial, so it can't have killed everything.
Nice one 👍
is the mars bar available in mars?
Most likely where the small spots of magnetic field that are still left is strongest. We kind of need that to survive, without tons of drilling and lots of shielding.
What about hydropically growing on mars, it’s a closed system, controlled, extremely water efficient compared to traditional soil farming
While I can potentially see small colony's on Mars the biggest obstacle is radiation and atmosphere, especially long term to even potentially make anything other than a very advanced expensive small science "colony" possible. And even then it might meet complete failure or very minor success. Gravity can be an issue as well though I think finding a long term solution to it will be considerably easier though it would certainly cause problems early on. In short we can maybe establish small science colony (probably never more than 10-25 people) in the next 30 years but making long term civilian or commercial colony's wont come for much longer or potentially never.
Olympus Mons should go to Greece
We are coming for you, Mars. You cannot escape us earthlings
What about the temperature conditions to grow green on mars?
This is the right man to say " Mars will fear from my botany powers"
Marsworms? Lumbricus martialis? Awesome!