How to renew bath taps to shower mixer taps. Giving you a free shower.
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- Change your single bath taps to shower mixer taps. All you really need is a good basin spanner and a screwdriver for the bath panel. Fitting shower mixer taps gives you a free shower!
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No intro, no sponsor, no b ollocks, just right to the point. Sir, thank you for your video!! Cheers!
No problem 👍
Thanks, I managed to fit shower taps yesterday on my own with in half hours thanks to you and your video. Very chuffed :)
Gillian Baxter Well done Gillian, I kinda feel I have got my video`s about right when I get comments like yours. Regards,Al.
Thanks very much for your video. After watching it I was confident enough to have a go after the plumber let me down again. I'm happy to say I now have a new bathroom mixer tap with shower and new basin taps
Well done Sue.
wow!
Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. Great advice. 👍👍
No problem.
Brilliant video. I was thinking of paying someone to fix the taps as I had absolutely no idea how I would get behind the bath to unscrew the taps etc., but you've given me the confidence to be able to go ahead and have a go (and potentially flood my house but never mind that lol). Thanks mate.
No problem.
Just brilliant. You mentioned everything a DIYer needed to know. Thank you.
No problem.
Amazing. Thank you. A great video, very precise and to the point. Managed to fit my mixer tap all well and good. Well happy :)
BM BonezMovies No problem. Al.
hi.. can you confirm if there should be fibre washers between the tap and copper pipe flange/nut on both hot and cold. dan
Excellent video, thank you!
Just the thing! Great explanation- many thanks indeed!!!
No problem.
This is actually super helpful man , thanks
No problem!
Brilliant you have saved me a fortune
+Philip Gahan Thats great, have yourself a beer with the money you have saved..Mines a John Smiths. Ha ha.
Straight in I love it no long talks 🥊😘😘
No problem.
Excellent video. I changed my taps to something similar
Great to hear!
Perfect explanation, thank you
No problem.
Thanks for the video very helpful.
No problem Geoffrey.
Thank you mate, your a true gent.
No problem Lucan.
One of the best video ive seen..
Thanks.
thanks for this informative video.
No problem anne.
thank you this helped a lot !
No problem.
thanks very much
Insightful, thank you for these instructions. I have moved into a rented house and the landlord is a bit of a not bothered kind of guy, I asked him to put me a shower in and he told me no.
I have today gone out and bought a mixer like the one in the video to install myself but had no clue where to start.
I thank you for the video it helps a lot.
much appreciated
No problem good luck with it.
@@dereton33 I've just done it, and it was really easy, took me a little longer than what it took you probably an hour to get it done, I also unblocked the bath and sink while I had the bath panel off.
That spanner that you used I had to borrow from a neighbour as I was trying to do it with maul grips and it just wasn't turning the far tap bolt, once I used that it was just a case of popping the new mixer tap in place and putting it back together like I had took it off.
thanks for your video, it was just like you had shown and it was easy to follow.
nice one thank a million.
Loads of landlords can't be bothered. Mine is housing association they aren't bothered I have a broken bath tap/shower attachment they need to replace it even the hose has gone
Thank you
thank you
Nicely made video
Thank you.
Really good video
I feel less nervous.
I am sure you can do it ok.
I can definitely recommend doing this, because you get a shower, also you can now get thermostatic mixer taps that keep the flow of water at a steady temperature, I have just Googled them and you can get a pair for about £ 80, but saying that, it might be worth getting a plumber to do it to make sure it is done properly, it is a tricky job.
Mark Hall Good advice Mark. You do have to have a lot of self confidence to do this job.
The problem with thermostatic taps is that you lose a lot of pressure as they restrict the flow, even with a decent pump. So they aren't always appropriate.
Manual mixers are better in many instances and are a lot more reliable.
This is especially true if you use a large rain style shower head and live alone. As you only really get temperature fluctuations when other people in the household are running the other taps, filling the washing machine etc.
I tend to install single lever manual mixers. As they don't tend go wrong and you can get very expensive manual taps that look as good as the thermostatic ones.
Thank you Dereton33, changed mine, saved a fortune and felt accomplished in the process! Only thing I had to add is that I had to shut off the COLD water going into the combi boiler to shut off the HOT tap (which may not be obvious to the novice). No doubt this is covered in your other videos though.
Yes .Pleased you did the job OK though.
Thank you so much. 👍😇
You are so welcome
Made to look easy, i had 22mm offset pipe work to fix to my taps, it was a shit of a job trying to hold up the pipework
and lift it and screw the nut to the pipe whilst lying on my side. next time ill use push fit drop them through and cut
the 22, god i was on it for two hours in the July heat.
Plumbing is such fun.
Hi awesome vid does this work with most sigle tap to mixer no need to drill new holes or close any hole out thanks
Yes all of them.
Nice, i got one to do next week left hand access and im not left handed Happy Days.
O well have fun.
One thing i wanted to know whether there is any adjustment on the taps as my hot water is not coming as fast as cold water?
No afraid not.
thanks👍
hi, I want to change my basin taps to mixer taps, is it done in the same way? do you have a video for that. many thanks.
I do not have a video on it but it is done in the same way.
Great this guys. Thanks for posting. Any idea where I could get the actual mixer head that you fitted? I'm struggling to find anything like that at a value for me mar's shower! 🤔
Bought it a while ago now.
Neill Dunne b&q have them for around £50 , I’m just trying t source one for the family bathroom too.
My current location of the taps in my bath is at the end, the new bath has taps located in the middle on the side. Do you have a video or any tips on extending the pipes?
No sorry
I've drilled holes into the bath for my taps but its gone wrong, so I have drilled again over the first holes so the taps can fit properly but the hole are bigger now in places than the washer and tap base. I've filed all around with mastic but I'm worried to put the water back on because of my supped mistake. Will it leak, do I need to start again.
If you have done a good job with the mastic you should be Ok. Only way to find out is to turn on the water. Al.
Hi, I've changed my taps and have a small leak on hot water side. It's leaking when water is lying around where tap enters bath (when showering). Any advise on how to better seal? Have a rubber washer ontop and below bath. Would a tophat plus back nut work?
Yes the top hat usually works, also take the rubber washer off on the top of the tap and use plumbers mait.
Hi Al.
Going to replace my bath taps in next few days. Got a gravity fed system, tank in loft and immersion in upstairs cupboard. Took panel off bath and noticed that cold feed is 15mm but hot is 22mm. Why would that be the case? I think the cold is mains fed as it is a good flow rate and pressure. Is the 22mm on the hot just to increase the flow rate?
Alan Hurley You are right the 22 mm hot one is to increase the flow rate whereas the cold is off the mains and has plenty of pressure.
dereton33 Cheers Al
Great video! If the bath taps were not up against a wall (e.g. there is space, making access to the screws/bolts easier) would a standard spanner work well?
No a basin spanner is the only way.
Ok, Thanks!
Not a fun job. Even worse when you are trying to video it too! But you may have inspired me to have a go at replacing my taps without first removing the whole bath - which is what I have been considering...
Thankyou soo much
Most welcome 😊
thanks for the video, having trouble using the basin spanner for the furthest tap..... Looks like I could just use a normal spanner. Will try at the weekend. Any tips on using the basin spanner? I have a basin wrench too. But the nut is not turning... Otherwise, the job would be easy... Thanks for the great videos.
See if you can get a adjustable spanner on the bottom end of the basin spanner.
@@dereton33 Thanks, I will try this weekend, once I crack the nut it will be easy.. Looks like my dad gave me an old basin spanner.. I think I can get to it using a normal spanner/adjustable spanner.. ;-) Thanks to you I am having a good go at some DIY... Keep up the good work.
😁The adjustable spanner cracked it.. Wish I had flexible hoses.As the right side part of the mixer tap is slightly raised. And looks like I'll need to replace the washer. But seems to be working now. Will just monitor it all for leaks. Don't want to touch it niw as it was a pain to get back on. As I'm renting this will do for now. And maybe I'll use a bit if silicone round the base of the mixer taps. You made me have the confidence to give this a try. So many many thanks. Keep up the videos there great!!!
Hi ,please can you let me know the name of that clever tool 🔧 the one you have easy access to screw in/out easily
Spanner how 🤔?
Many thanks
It is called a basin spanner.
thanks very much fpr the video but how call in english the tools which you used to open the crew which attached with tap , thanks again
+Majid Dagh The main tool you need is called a basin spanner.
+dereton33 thanks very much sir
Sorry if this has already been asked , I haven't read any responses , before I connect the water pipes back to the taps , would I have to put some boss white tape onto the threads ?
You do not have to, but I like to put some boss white on.
Those plastic backing nuts are prone to breaking so I always use brass or gunmetal nuts - much stronger and not expensive.
Yes they do break. I just did not have any when I fitted these. Happy to say though they are still ok after 10 years.
Do I have to stop the main water supply to this or just shutting off the taps be good enough many thanks
Turn off the main supply and the hot supply to the taps first.
Had an unrelated question. Have a sink basin with the lever that raises the plug. It is operating, i.e., the mechanism moves when I have my hands to it behind the pedestal I can check it. However the plug does not go up. Had this some years ago and solved it simply but cannot remember how! Mrs complaining. Changing it is a pain cause I need to remove pedestal and hold it up (sink only attached to wall via two bolts and may fall?). Any idea what I might have done last time to fix it simply. Perhaps as you are so experienced it may be a simple thing for you, a common problems.
Hi Daniel, usually the small chrome clamp that holds the two push rods together comes loose, so when you push the lever down to raise the plug it does not lift the rod going to the plug.
Thanks. Actually what happened in my case was that the plug itself has a threaded rod with a nut and so it is adjustable in height. As it got corroded it became loose and lost its height. That is why it could not be lifted. The mechanism was fine. It was hard to determine this for I had to move the pedestal hiding everything - dangerous thing. Then I unscrewed the outlet and stuck my finger and lifted the plug. Now I see it is just the plug.
Are all three hole tub taps the same size? Universal? So I can just buy a 3 hole tap set online and know it would fit perfectly right??
Yes normally.
my shower is broken when i pull the thing up in between the 2 taps barely enough water comes through it only just started happening how can i fix this apparently its the diverter or some thing according to the internet do I need to replace the taps or can I just fix it my self?
You will need to replace the taps.
legend
my old bath has a 7 inch gap between taps, will new 180mm mixer fit?
Yes standard fit.
my bath taps are leaking, but they are rigid,pipes fitted is it ok to reuse the pipes or am I best cutting them and using flexi pipes?
Graeme Cunningham It`s ok, you can use the old pipes, it is just that using flexi pipes gives you an easier fit.
Thank you. After watching this video I said this is simple so I'm not calling no plumber. I'll do it myself
That`s great have a go.
Deraton , what size basin spanner is appropriate for most taps , I’m looking to buy a universal size . Thanks.
Size 9 adjustable.
Hi. How come no black washers under the tap on the top? My shower mixer also came with a white foam thing, 2 black washers and locking nuts. Where do the washers go?
Thanks
Under the tap locking onto the bottom of the bath.
Hi there. Brilliant, just one question. Are the holes in the bath all standard size. Thanks in advance. Stay safe you and yours.
Yes they are
@@dereton33 Thanks again and all the very best.
This was a vid on using a basin spanner and could have been half as long..what happened to the fitting the shower bit?
Changing bath taps is about the right tools for the job. The shower bit was to easy, anyone could do that, it did not need me to bore people with that.
i thought the pipe work should be ptfe taped up before screwing on the fittings?
No just boss white.
Hi Al. I have leaking bath taps with no shower. And an electric shower which has packed up. Do you think its possible to kill 2 birds with one stone and follow this video as i would like a shower coming from the taps rather then electric. Its seems to straight forward. Is there anything else id have to consider?
Yes, just make sure that if you have an F and E system the cold supply is feed from the roof tank, otherwise you will not be able to balance the hot water with the cold. If you have a combi boiler then no problem, it will work well.
What if you don't have flexi-pipes and just cooper straight up with no isolating valves?
Still will be able to fit straight on them.
This might be a silly question but do you have to turn water off at some main point first? Don’t judge me 🙈
Yes the hot and cold.
Not the easiest of jobs
Our mixer taps seem to be either on or off and its very difficult to get adjust the cold to balance the hot, from the storage cylinder, so you end up being either scalded or a cold shower. I also find if you adjust the cold by opening the cold taps a half turn it will suddenly turn itself on fully, without the taps being touched. Is this poor quality B&Q taps or is it usual. There is a regulator on the cold feed.
Thanks
icespeckledhens If your cold supply is mains feed, which you can easily check, by seeing if you can stop the flow of water by putting your thumb over the end of the tap, if you cannot, then it is mains feed and will never mix properly, your only recourse is too drop a feed from the roof tank to your cold bath tap. Hot and cold pressures will then be equal and your taps will work fine.
dereton33 Thanks
It is mains feed and I fitted a pressure reducer, after the installation, to reduce the mains feed to match the pressure from the hot water. It has improved a bit was that not a good idea? Its a bit difficult to fit a pipe with the bathroom fully tiled. Its a pity that the so called plumber who fitted it when he had the bathroom stripped out did not do it then
Yes that is a shame, you could always go the other way and fit a small shower pump to the hot, if you got a one and a half bar pump and match that down to the same pressure on your mains pressure reducer, you would then get an equal shower balance.
Is the distance between the taps standard ? Will all mixer taps be the same measurements from tap to tap?
Yes.
95 plumbers voted you down as you saved us some $$ and they are fuming :D
Most of them learn a thing a two from me.
Haha, right 😤😁
Will this mixer tap/shower configuration give me a decent shower from my combi boiler?
With a combi yes.
Hi, a bit hard up but desperately need a shower because of thyroid problem causing me to sweat to the max whenever I sweat (it's as if there is only on or off, no low sweat, just max) and running a bath three or four times a day is not practical. I learnt a lot from your video and am confident I could do it. What I need to know is, under my bath is two upright rigid copper pipes (hot and cold) both with flexi hose from pipe to tap. Are the fittings on these flexi hoses standard and will they fit any Shower mixer taps I buy I'm not sure where to measure them to get the size). Should I buy a separate mixer tap set and shower upright, or a kit. Is there any particular shower mixer tap below £100 you might recommend. Hope you can advise and thanks for the informative vid. Cheers
The flexible pipes will fit any bath tape mixer or standard. Bath shower taps are standard width apart. So it is quite easy to fit them.
hi where does the shower hose fit I just saw mixer taps.
On the spout on the top of the taps.
Also, have a situation whereby only one bath tap is hard to move. Some six months ago my friend opened that tap and cleaned the mechanism. Now it got hard again so hard that I could not shut it so took the rubber thing off and even then the Allen key would not take the thing off, so I sort of yanked it off by turning it. Then I stopped the water with a spanner (shut the tap). Now tempted to take it all out and replace whole thing as in your video. However, do you think it possible to refresh the single tap? Are all taps a bit different? What is the best option?
Best option every time is to renew them.
I am taking the tap mechanism to the plumbers to see if they have one the same.
Actually I changed for universal valve tap and it worked.
How long did everyone's water take to drain, mines been on for about 45 mins and still running.
Hot water can take a long time as it has to empty the tank or cylinder. Make sure the cold is turned off too and the hot is isolated next to the water cyclinder in the airing cupboard. Normally a red gate valve.
Gotta like this video just because he said it's tricky to undo. I would also except pain in a**e and f-ing annoying.
Watched 5 videos so far of replacing shower hoses where the person unscrews the hose with their fingers. No shower hose that is 5 years old plus and welded shut with limescale will EVER undo with just your fingers.
Hi ha very true.
Trouble getting the taps off 😬 will go back and give it a go now
Good luck.
How .much roughly would this job be please
About £30.00.
Is PTFE tape needed when fitting new taps
No.
This might sound stupid but please bare with me i have zero knowledge of plum6lol. Do I need to measure the space between the taps to make sure I have the right size mixer or are they a standard size?
They are a standard size.
@@dereton33 thank you 🙏
hi, i replaced the taps with a mixer tap and all is well with the 2 taps,no leaks but once the shower is engaged water runs down from the mixer tap thread under the bath? any advice.
its coming down the brand new tap thread inside the back nut? is the tap faulty
Check you have a rubber washer in place.
i have the mixer sitting on the supplied foam pad then a rubber washer above the back nut . all brand new
If that is the case then you have a faulty shower.
Just going through the comments section and I have to give you 🖒🏿🖒🏿🖒🏿 for trying to reply to all the genuine questions. I never see this on youtube before.
Not all taps have flesh hose on? What happens with a normal pipe
Nothing. You connect them instead.
Ah, but if the cold water is off the mains (high pressure) and the hot water is tank via cylinder (gravity fed) , there will be a disparity on flow rate. You would need a booster pump off the hot installed. Otherwise cold showers. If the water mixes in the tap body rather than the spout, the mains pressure could also back fill the tank via the cylinder and result in the tank overflowing out thru the overflow/warning pipe.
This job is only recommended to work on low pressure cold and hot feeds or a combi boiler, where the pressures are equal. I did say this in the video.
Oh sorry Al. My fault. I must have got carried away and missed that comment.
Still a good comment though so thanks.
What was the tool you used to unscrew the final black pieces?
At around 1:30
A basin spanner
How you measure from single taps to a mixer tap?? Thanks
Centre to centre.
@@dereton33 didn’t realise you replied, thank you!
I got quoted £200 for this. I'll do it myself thanks lol
Great.
Yes, should probably mention that the water has to go off first before undoing anything. Surely nobody that stupid would forget to do that or might twig it when you undo the nut slightly and then get sprayed! Good tutorial, just thought I'd watch someone else do it before I had a go.
James Cross first thing he says at 0.03 seconds in.
mine is in worse difficult place
Where can I find the tool you used on this video
+aman habibi Toolstation sell them.
+dereton33 thanks for the reply just wanted to ask my pipes are not flaxi it's a copper pipe can I still open it?
Oh, don't worry about the rubber washers, because the customer can have a leak from the shsower downstairs thus creating a future job. Is that working class savings & investment?
How long did that take?
An hour.
Do you have a plumbing company?
No.
I brought one of them spanners from wilko, what a load of shite, it didn't open up big enough
You bought the cheap and nasty one.
Your probably right bud haha
How much could I expect to pay for something like this?
About £60.00 plus cost of taps.
Thanks
Im going to do this and will call my boyfriend (hes a builder and roofer) or Dad if it goes wrong 😁😂😆
Good luck Esther.
@@dereton33 Thanks
I encourage women to try. I don't need to lucky my housing association will have to come out and fix mine. My bath shower attachment mixer is broken
I love ur videos etc and subscibed ages ago. Im bn quoted alot of dosh by a plumber and im thinkin of doin this exact job myself but im a bit nervous :-) i have easy access to the back of the taps/ bath so it would be more accessable if i took a few photos etc would u be able to give me some help should i need it. Also was thinking of replacing the pipes goin to the taps with the more modern type the more flexible type thats in your video. But 1 thing at a time. If this is successful id like to change my kitchen taps also some day. P.s. i love ur videos as i do most of my own d.i.y etc.
would love any feedback etc. Keep up the great work.
Regards
Roy :-)
Hi prender77, no problem with the help issue, just send me some pics via my web site e-mail address and any help I can give you is yours for the asking.Regards,Al.
Thanks al :-)
dereton33
Hi al, where can i find ur email address?
dereton33
I found ur website Al, and sent u some pics
Regards
Roy
Ok Roy.
Those are old fashioned taps
Probably should have kicked off with a warning to isolate the water supply first. Guaranteed someone attempting this wouldn't have done so if not warned.
Yes probably right.
I've just had a plumber replace mine, it took him a record 3 HOURS to do exactly what you have done here in less than 10 minutes.... Talk about time wasting....
Makes the bill nice and high.
imspice How much did you pay?
Hi have been in places where I chefes the bath taps in 10 min but i have also been in places where it took me over 3 hours not all set ups are the same specially if the water can't be closed straight away
Man I wish they were all this easy 😂👍🏻 normally a nice rusty nut that you can't turn and have to cut off
The back nuts can be a bastard though, and I hate using a basin spanner!
These type of baths are such a bad design for maintenance or renewal. Do the designers have any idea of this pathetic situation?
Never have
hi.. can you confirm if there should be fibre washers between the tap and copper pipe flange/nut on both hot and cold. dan
Yes.