Odd how after they sat they will "learn from this" they never seem to do what they say. The London Met are also a group of racketeers and have been for years. I met several police officers in the UK over many years who were extremely dodgy and little "Judge Dredds". The fact that the NI police were complicit in terrorism ought to make the government triple its efforts to bring those responsible to justice not brush it under the carpet.
Actually a lot of the former members of the Royal Irish Constabulary refused to apologise. That was the force so sectarian it had to be abolished under the Good Friday agreement and replace with a new force it is the new Force which is apologising for the behaviour of the old one. If you go onto certain protestant areas you see banner saying disbanded for being too loyal which yeah murdering innocent Catholics and promote and sectarian race wars.
tbh, you should go home to your chosen zionist nation of choice... take your puppet gov and media with you.. don't let the door hit your sorry isreeli as s on the way out neocon shill
@@kylesmith4572 Very easy for you to say, you didn't grow up in the middle of it all: they did do it - they've been colluding in this stuff since the beginning of the troubles so tbh I don't know why this particular one is getting so much attention. But you really shouldn't make comments like that from your nice, safe little suburb far away from it all.
@@jackspring7709 Bolsheviks will always cover for their own, mate. How much would you like to bet that Kyle here still denounces Nazis on a regular basis? Remember, hypocrisy is a hallmark of the Left.
@@jackspring7709 Yes it's very easy for anyone to say who wasn't involved. Just imagine the stress the police were under wondering when some dirty terrorist scumbag would shoot them in the back or plant a bomb under their car. And they were supposed to fight these terrorists with one hand tied behind their back. It's hardly surprising some police officers colluded with the loyalist terrorists scum to try and stop the nationalist terrorist scum. Collusion or loyalist terrorists wouldn't exist if the IRA didn't start it's murder campaign.
It was the 1990s. It was a different era. The people responsible are no longer in those positions. The police service has been reformed. The Good Friday Agreement has given three North 20+ years of peace. I know that people in Northern Ireland sometimes have a hard time letting go of the past. I understand and sympathize with why this is the case. However ultimately, there's no progress without letting the past be the past. I'm glad the historical record is being corrected and clarified. That's meaningful. So is the apology.
It always pisses me off when murderer cops get to "apologize" rather than being hit with substantial legally based financial penalties, as they deserve. Those penalties should not come out of the public coffers, but out of the pay and benefits of the officers involved.
Yeah if you look into it the police force in Northern Ireland was so bad as in racist bigoted sectarian that as part of the Good Friday agreement it was abolished and replaced with a new service. It’s honestly disgusting if you look at its full history. The UK was supposed to investigate murders by the army but have decided to drop those investigations.
I had a classmate at law school in london from northern ireland and once we were going to observe a trial at the old bailey and at the entrance to the old bailey he proudly said I am from Northern Ireland and he was taken aside and bag searched thoroughly 🤣 It was a strange thing to witness that.
It happened to me and many others like me that were easily identified as Catholic in NI weekly, daily and sometimes a few times a day depending on how far you'd be driving. We were never a republican family, just Catholics.
The British government should implement justice in the right format by putting the unionist terrorists involved on trial for murder and those in the police also on trial
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 But the Police didn’t turn a blind eye to the IRA whereas as this shows the fundamental institutions of the Police ignored violent crime and allowed the UVF to murder. And the fact that it is Those murders are Co-oped by their state related officials is the problem.
@@ghostofgralton6859 You know you are just in denial. Support for the terrorists were given, people like Charles Haughey are the ones who were caught. And thats just the government, from Irish border guard letting IRA members "slip" through to active funding. The Irish in the Republic supported the IRA much more then the British supported Loyalists.
@punkrocker6431 "well"! To a certain extent. Though there are old RUC 'lift overs' now in PSNI, who carry the old RUC orange anti-Nationalis ethos with them. Re: the old adage, "one rotten apple in barrel" : contaminates the 'New'. If policing in N. Ireland progresses- As Is - 10Yrs from now (maybe sooner) We may need call in another "Patton''! to sort out the mess. 😠
@@jobbyomoron8478 Oooh, look. The lesser spotted troll. They’re sooo rare. Out come my binoculars. You can tell them by the lack of intellectual rigour in the statements. See the three word comment without a qualifying verb. This is an obvious sign of someone struggling to know what tense to use. To be fair, all three words are monosyllabic as well, showing the reading comprehension level required. A century ago, a bunch of paddies with Victorian weaponry kicked their much vaunted “Empire” out. They’ve been like this since.
You are talking absolute shite there pal. Educate yourself or stop telling lies on here....oh wait, you are obviously a republican, so lying is about the height of it from you.
@@thepub245The paramilitaries we’re the police would you wake up out of that sleepy state, the media created a narrative that all catholics were in the IRA and that all protestants were loyalist! Brain washing was huge here..
The Northern Irish Constabulary has always been colluding with Loyalist Terrorists since the Start of the troubles, because many Police where in Loyalist groups.
Not the case. The RUC was separate from the Loyalist paramilitaries and worked to stop them doing violence, infiltrating many of their cells and stopping violence. And yes in some cases working with the Loyalists to kill members of the IRA. As the British/Americans/Irish states did with the IRA.
@@johnbest4513 What's the evidence to support that claim. They instigated violence during the Derry Civil Rights Movement, they were very heavy handed to Irish Catholic family compared to Irish Protestants. And besides my point was that due to that Unionist bias in RUC it wouldn't be out of place to find RUC men as full members of Loyalist Gangs provoking violence not helping to sort it out.
@@anthonyshardlow5108 I listen to the interviews with former Loyalist paramilitaries about the RUC. They openly talk about the issues they had with the RUC. Basically people have fallen for Irish propaganda about the RUC. Strangely enough the British intelligence in the IRA weren't 'full members of the IRA', but agents. Yet the RUC does the exact same thing and they call its collusion. The Irish and American state did the same thing in the IRA, yet some how the IRA kept murdering people. That's my point the perspective is one sided and history his been written by the ruling class to oppose the Loyalists. After all it was the Loyalist state that has been attacked and forced to change through violence, from all these outside forces from the Irish state/British state/American state. If thousands of people took to the streets, people who represent a state which claims your nation as part of your state, how do you think the Loyalists would react? How do you think the police would react? The police in France killed hundred of foreigners and Communists in the 50's and 60's because they wanted 'rights', the American state did the same. The difference is there wasn't a foreign power Ireland threatening to invade the USA or France. I used to be a Loyalist, I still have great affection for them and their culture, they emotions and perspectives. Maybe if other people felt the same as me, we could have an honest conversation and come to better conclusions about the conflict and make a lasting peace in Ireland. The Loyalists/RUC/British state weren't the 'bad guy's', and neither were the IRA/Americans/Irish state.
@@johnbest4513 am for a honest conversation but not with someone who has the same view point as me because you will always have the opinion but with individualised responses. Would you care to Debate this topic and other topics during the troubles because I would love to see the troubles from a Loyalist prospective
@@anthonyshardlow5108 Yes I would be happy to debate it with you. Though keep in mind I am not a Loyalist, I live in England, I have never been to Northern Ireland. So all my perspectives come from listening to Loyalist music, Loyalist interviews and my own perspectives from Britain. I also have an Anglo-Irish mother and Celtic Irish great grandmother.
"Hey, gee, yea... this is awkward. Real sorry about that one time back in the 90s we busted into your building and shot down five of you in cold blood. Apologies."
@@pecadodeorgullo5963 Gardai are saints compared to the RUC scum,helped on by MI5,Gardai never had anyone murdered like this.Definite,we need a United Ireland.This was cowardly and disgusting.
Sadly George a sentiment not shared widely in GB. The Northern Irish state in its bigoted sectarian form has festered for a century with the blessing of the British state and countless crimes have gone ignored because of a compliant media. Look up the ballymurphy massacre and find related media stories of the day. All innocents labeled terrorists. Normal people murdered in cold blood and their names dragged through the gutter. Respect to you.
growing up in England we were always told by the bbc that the ira were terrorists. We weren't told British soldiers went to NI to protect Catholics and Catholics were delighted because they had no protection from loyalist at the behest of the rev ian paisly to burn out catholic homes. To appease the loyalists the soldiers started searching the very people that were giving them tea and cakes. We were told the paras were brave the ruc [British police] were the good guys. Now we know that it was us and our colonial thinking that caused the slauter in N.I and now we are hearing that our loyalist family were getting support from the ruc and mi6 it was them that caused the murders of people sitting in a pub having a pint or placing a bet on a horse. Our wonderful British government have a lot to answer for and the bbc too. I hope the paddies get a united ireland and can be left in peace.
The Police worked collaboratively with loyalist terrorists who were responsible for the murder of innocent Catholics including the Sean Graham Bookmaker Massacre in 1992.
If you kill anyone in cold blood and destroy multiple families and lives just say sorry and it's ok. even if you are a body responsible for keeping the peace for the whole population. The worst part is this is still going on.
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@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 These were innocent Catholics who were murdered not terrorists. Murder is murder, whether it’s committed by paramilitaries or the fault of the forces of the state.
Time is is great tool for finding the truth! It's such a pity that it is always too late. An apology, would you go and F*** Off, Just like a normal civilian would be brought to court years later and possibly charged, same should happen here.
I thought that once a cop acts out of oath he is no longer protected due to acting outside his remit?? Fuck apologies it's too late for those. Apologies should happen before the investigation not after it.
@@eoghancarpenter8546 Ah yes, the failing Union that has been on the verge of "Collapse" for hundreds of years now. Many generations that have been promised the collapse of the union have grown old and died.
Good luck you ridiculous MI5 shill, Northern Ireland is majority Native Irish again now among under 30s in Uliad the SF will win in may and the SNP will take Scotland out of the union next year Fuck the UK it is over and it will never come back
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 Government in the North collapsed again, Sinn Fein likely to become NI's largest party, Scottish independence on the cards and a government led by the biggest liar and crook to hold office your beloved union is dying
Officially acknowledging this widely known collusion is a major step for the pro-unionist/loyalist anti-republican police force in the six counties, given their majority. Not a significant enough step to be forgiven or trusted, that is still a long way off, but it's at least a start toward healing the injury of state-sanctioned sectarian violence perpetrated by the occupiers of the six occupied counties. So a cautious kudos to them for getting started, how this resolves will have a significant influence on peace in Northern Ireland moving forward. It is a volatile situation to resolve, they've simply tossed gasoline on the embers if they conclude it here with no further action taken. On the other hand if they move forward with prosecutions, the legal process might be seen as malicious targeting and spark more bonfire orange boy riots.
These are people in power over the local civilian population and any abuse of that power should be dealt with on a different level. There should be a system in place where the policing body should be subject to a judicial system that incurs a multiplier in punishment for breaking the law. A ranking system. For example, if a constable breaks the law, the maximum punishment should be ( 5x times ) greater than that of a civilian. If a sergeant breaks the law the maximum punishment should be ( 10x times) greater than that of a civilian. Etc, etc, etc.... I believe this would lead to an evolution within the policing system, ensuring that the people who joined up to protect and serve, would treat the job as thier life, and not just a job. Because at the end of the day, these peoples decisions affect our lives and they can go home in the evening and eat a cheeseburger with thier kids, regardless of their decisions. The main problem is the wrong type of people sit in these positions of power, and I think a system like this in place, which deals with corrupt cops on a higher scale, would make individuals with corrupt ideas in their heads, think twice.
I'm not saying they should lock corrupt police officers into General Population of an American prison and tell the homies to "have fun". But I'm not saying they shouldn't.
Do people realize this was 20 to 30 years ago and most if not all of the people involved would not be there anymore, maybe dead themselves. I would say look for people involved not the new ones not even born at the time.
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Oh dear. Not good. But it's good that the histotical record is being cleared up. This means that Northern Ireland will have a better, more peaceful future of reconciliation compared to places like Israel and the Balkans
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Britain/ England / Westminster’s long long involvement in Ireland has brought so much grief to the peoples of these two small islands .. The working class from each of the four countries of Ireland , England , Wales and Scotland should be united together against the elites but instead fall for the divide and conquer form of democracy as practiced especially by Westminster ..
So when are you going to overthrow the Anglo-Irish ruling Ireland? The Loyalists working class were fine in their own state, living as they wished, getting benefits from employment and privileged within the state and government. The IRA ruined that, now they talk about overthrowing the elites. What they mean is everybody under republic rule.
@@johnbest4513 Lmao you're acting like the north was just loyalists, What about the 35-45% of the population that were miserable? And the Anglo Irish don't rule Ireland.
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How much support have any of these people given to the police in the past…? If there is evidence then produce it and allow the DPP to charge those offenders. If none then the matter surely ends there. It’s so easy to make all sorts of allegations but without substance they are useless. Don’t forget about the other thousands of innocent people murdered by the Iraqi. We can only hope that the same amount of time effort and money is put into those enquires.
Tis a bit late for apologies lads. You had better get the DUP and loyalists to calm down too before it all kicks off again and the troubles comes to your shores too, again.
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This woman continues to produce reports after reports with NOT a shred of evidence to put before a court. These reports are only her opinion. We could all do that. If she has evidence against former Police Officers, then produce it and put them before a court where the properly qualified judiciary would decide on it, otherwise what purpose does this latest report serve.
Clearly you were not listening. Evidence was destroyed. There is lots of similar cases. British government had some cheek to call the IRA terrorist when this was their tactics
@@robcar6598 So then, there must be evidence of evidence being destroyed. That being the case then we should surely see former Police being charged at some stage with destroying evidence/perverting course of justice. Without resulting charges following these reports, it’s only a persons opinion. Not trying to be funny or awkward, but that’s my point in this. Let’s get them into the courts where there’s nowhere to hide.
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police always just say "sorry for shooting you"..
Odd how after they sat they will "learn from this" they never seem to do what they say. The London Met are also a group of racketeers and have been for years. I met several police officers in the UK over many years who were extremely dodgy and little "Judge Dredds". The fact that the NI police were complicit in terrorism ought to make the government triple its efforts to bring those responsible to justice not brush it under the carpet.
Actually a lot of the former members of the Royal Irish Constabulary refused to apologise.
That was the force so sectarian it had to be abolished under the Good Friday agreement and replace with a new force it is the new Force which is apologising for the behaviour of the old one.
If you go onto certain protestant areas you see banner saying disbanded for being too loyal which yeah murdering innocent Catholics and promote and sectarian race wars.
This has nothing to do with police shooting anyone
Also turning a blind eye to the disappearance and eventual finding of a dead Noah Donohoe in an unlocked storm drain…
Typical British police work.Thoroughly discredited as per usual.
police are on a hiding to nothing with your demons in charge
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tbh, you should go home to your chosen zionist nation of choice... take your puppet gov and media with you.. don't let the door hit your sorry isreeli as s on the way out neocon shill
Surely they won’t be allowed to get away with “apologizing” for “failings”?! (Fury and repugnance reading this!)
I mean....that was 30 years ago. So should they slit their wrists for something they didn't do?
@@kylesmith4572 Very easy for you to say, you didn't grow up in the middle of it all: they did do it - they've been colluding in this stuff since the beginning of the troubles so tbh I don't know why this particular one is getting so much attention. But you really shouldn't make comments like that from your nice, safe little suburb far away from it all.
@@jackspring7709 Bolsheviks will always cover for their own, mate. How much would you like to bet that Kyle here still denounces Nazis on a regular basis? Remember, hypocrisy is a hallmark of the Left.
@@jackspring7709
Yes it's very easy for anyone to say who wasn't involved.
Just imagine the stress the police were under wondering when some dirty terrorist scumbag would shoot them in the back or plant a bomb under their car.
And they were supposed to fight these terrorists with one hand tied behind their back.
It's hardly surprising some police officers colluded with the loyalist terrorists scum to try and stop the nationalist terrorist scum.
Collusion or loyalist terrorists wouldn't exist if the IRA didn't start it's murder campaign.
It was the 1990s. It was a different era. The people responsible are no longer in those positions. The police service has been reformed. The Good Friday Agreement has given three North 20+ years of peace.
I know that people in Northern Ireland sometimes have a hard time letting go of the past. I understand and sympathize with why this is the case. However ultimately, there's no progress without letting the past be the past. I'm glad the historical record is being corrected and clarified. That's meaningful. So is the apology.
An apology for causing a mess, without taking any of the responsibility for cleaning it up. Is not worth shit.
It always pisses me off when murderer cops get to "apologize" rather than being hit with substantial legally based financial penalties, as they deserve. Those penalties should not come out of the public coffers, but out of the pay and benefits of the officers involved.
BBC news is Spy Intelligence of Chinese
Who caused Princess Dian`s death ?
Cops are not good people
Yeah if you look into it the police force in Northern Ireland was so bad as in racist bigoted sectarian that as part of the Good Friday agreement it was abolished and replaced with a new service.
It’s honestly disgusting if you look at its full history.
The UK was supposed to investigate murders by the army but have decided to drop those investigations.
@@dungnguyen-vx2sc it was the chinee' Kathlin!
Police needs a police.
They do. The IOPC.
@@L.C.Sweeney Police Ombudsman here in NI.
@@L.C.Sweeney well it doesn’t work does it?
I had a classmate at law school in london from northern ireland and once we were going to observe a trial at the old bailey and at the entrance to the old bailey he proudly said I am from Northern Ireland and he was taken aside and bag searched thoroughly 🤣 It was a strange thing to witness that.
Who caused Princess Diana`s death ?
Did you not learn to punctuate in law school? Your comment reads worse than an african dying of aids.
He deserved it
@@АннаКубалова-г5о Gerry Adams
It happened to me and many others like me that were easily identified as Catholic in NI weekly, daily and sometimes a few times a day depending on how far you'd be driving.
We were never a republican family, just Catholics.
Just in time for when the associated officers are either dead or retired. Typical
British should kick out from N.Ireland , let N.Ireland independent.
Charlie from it's always sunny in philadelphia.. is that you?
The British government should implement justice in the right format by putting the unionist terrorists involved on trial for murder and those in the police also on trial
I bet many are dead as it was 30 years ago.
@@badgerpa9 30yrs ago they were called the RUC not the PSNI.
@@badgerpa9 quite possibly alright, however that does not mean those who are living should walk freely.
@@dazzer273 No disagreement from me, just do not think people should attack the 25 year old officer over this.
I dont think its practical to put the british army on trial
I am shocked to hear this disturbing shame on Britain in Ireland.
Watchdog? The Dogs on the Street could have told you.
Who would have guessed it British funded police collided with extremist unionists
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And the Irish government funded the IRA. Everyone has blood on their hand.
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 That's blatantly untrue
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 But the Police didn’t turn a blind eye to the IRA whereas as this shows the fundamental institutions of the Police ignored violent crime and allowed the UVF to murder. And the fact that it is Those murders are Co-oped by their state related officials is the problem.
@@ghostofgralton6859 You know you are just in denial. Support for the terrorists were given, people like Charles Haughey are the ones who were caught.
And thats just the government, from Irish border guard letting IRA members "slip" through to active funding. The Irish in the Republic supported the IRA much more then the British supported Loyalists.
" procedures have greatly improved over the last 30 years "
Well..
Yeah, how? Unionists are still overwhelmingly represented in the PSNI/RUC.
@punkrocker6431 "well"! To a certain extent. Though there are old RUC 'lift overs' now in PSNI, who carry the old RUC orange anti-Nationalis ethos with them. Re: the old adage, "one rotten apple in barrel" : contaminates the 'New'. If policing in N. Ireland progresses- As Is - 10Yrs from now (maybe sooner) We may need call in another "Patton''! to sort out the mess. 😠
how many cops will go to prison for this
You take someone's land and this happens
And I’ve been telling people about the way the PSNI was pro-loyalist and has been since they were instituted.
Good lads then
@@jobbyomoron8478 Oooh, look. The lesser spotted troll. They’re sooo rare. Out come my binoculars.
You can tell them by the lack of intellectual rigour in the statements. See the three word comment without a qualifying verb. This is an obvious sign of someone struggling to know what tense to use. To be fair, all three words are monosyllabic as well, showing the reading comprehension level required.
A century ago, a bunch of paddies with Victorian weaponry kicked their much vaunted “Empire” out. They’ve been like this since.
@@kevmccarthy8311 while real men were fighting a war.
@@kevmccarthy8311 while real men were fighting a war.
You are talking absolute shite there pal. Educate yourself or stop telling lies on here....oh wait, you are obviously a republican, so lying is about the height of it from you.
No surprise there.
If they were sorry they'd leave the union.
Probably dead by now as it was 30 years ago.
Just imagine how many acts of violence or killings haven't been prosecuted. The evil has won.
The police are the evil
Yeah, the vast majority being from the paramilitaries.
@@thepub245The paramilitaries we’re the police would you wake up out of that sleepy state, the media created a narrative that all catholics were in the IRA and that all protestants were loyalist! Brain washing was huge here..
The police found it unacceptable.WHY ARE YOU WASTING THE BEREAVED FAMILIES TIME?
The Northern Irish Constabulary has always been colluding with Loyalist Terrorists since the Start of the troubles, because many Police where in Loyalist groups.
Not the case. The RUC was separate from the Loyalist paramilitaries and worked to stop them doing violence, infiltrating many of their cells and stopping violence. And yes in some cases working with the Loyalists to kill members of the IRA. As the British/Americans/Irish states did with the IRA.
@@johnbest4513 What's the evidence to support that claim. They instigated violence during the Derry Civil Rights Movement, they were very heavy handed to Irish Catholic family compared to Irish Protestants. And besides my point was that due to that Unionist bias in RUC it wouldn't be out of place to find RUC men as full members of Loyalist Gangs provoking violence not helping to sort it out.
@@anthonyshardlow5108 I listen to the interviews with former Loyalist paramilitaries about the RUC. They openly talk about the issues they had with the RUC. Basically people have fallen for Irish propaganda about the RUC. Strangely enough the British intelligence in the IRA weren't 'full members of the IRA', but agents. Yet the RUC does the exact same thing and they call its collusion. The Irish and American state did the same thing in the IRA, yet some how the IRA kept murdering people. That's my point the perspective is one sided and history his been written by the ruling class to oppose the Loyalists. After all it was the Loyalist state that has been attacked and forced to change through violence, from all these outside forces from the Irish state/British state/American state.
If thousands of people took to the streets, people who represent a state which claims your nation as part of your state, how do you think the Loyalists would react? How do you think the police would react? The police in France killed hundred of foreigners and Communists in the 50's and 60's because they wanted 'rights', the American state did the same. The difference is there wasn't a foreign power Ireland threatening to invade the USA or France.
I used to be a Loyalist, I still have great affection for them and their culture, they emotions and perspectives. Maybe if other people felt the same as me, we could have an honest conversation and come to better conclusions about the conflict and make a lasting peace in Ireland. The Loyalists/RUC/British state weren't the 'bad guy's', and neither were the IRA/Americans/Irish state.
@@johnbest4513 am for a honest conversation but not with someone who has the same view point as me because you will always have the opinion but with individualised responses. Would you care to Debate this topic and other topics during the troubles because I would love to see the troubles from a Loyalist prospective
@@anthonyshardlow5108 Yes I would be happy to debate it with you. Though keep in mind I am not a Loyalist, I live in England, I have never been to Northern Ireland. So all my perspectives come from listening to Loyalist music, Loyalist interviews and my own perspectives from Britain. I also have an Anglo-Irish mother and Celtic Irish great grandmother.
Damn that sucks
"Hey, gee, yea... this is awkward. Real sorry about that one time back in the 90s we busted into your building and shot down five of you in cold blood. Apologies."
Why is it so hard to find this exact post anywhere in bbc Facebook?!
It's another anti British report so the BBC will correct that soon enough
@@knockedoutloaded Do you agree with police murdering innocent people? I guess if they are Irish...
@@alvaro701 I am Irish you dunce
Tip of the Iceberg
As NWA sang•••fuck da police
A very dark Stain on being in the British Forces and British Police Forces.
I believe Irish Reunification is a Must Now.
The garda aren't any better. Also, irish unification is not a must.
@@pecadodeorgullo5963 Gardai are saints compared to the RUC scum,helped on by MI5,Gardai never had anyone murdered like this.Definite,we need a United Ireland.This was cowardly and disgusting.
@@robertomeara3469 I'm on about the PSNI, hot the RUC.
@@robertomeara3469 also, we don't need a united ireland.
Sadly George a sentiment not shared widely in GB. The Northern Irish state in its bigoted sectarian form has festered for a century with the blessing of the British state and countless crimes have gone ignored because of a compliant media. Look up the ballymurphy massacre and find related media stories of the day. All innocents labeled terrorists. Normal people murdered in cold blood and their names dragged through the gutter. Respect to you.
growing up in England we were always told by the bbc that the ira were terrorists. We weren't told British soldiers went to NI to protect Catholics and Catholics were delighted because they had no protection from loyalist at the behest of the rev ian paisly to burn out catholic homes. To appease the loyalists the soldiers started searching the very people that were giving them tea and cakes. We were told the paras were brave the ruc [British police] were the good guys. Now we know that it was us and our colonial thinking that caused the slauter in N.I and now we are hearing that our loyalist family were getting support from the ruc and mi6 it was them that caused the murders of people sitting in a pub having a pint or placing a bet on a horse. Our wonderful British government have a lot to answer for and the bbc too. I hope the paddies get a united ireland and can be left in peace.
There wasn't enough parcels left under their cars
What happened?
The Police worked collaboratively with loyalist terrorists who were responsible for the murder of innocent Catholics including the Sean Graham Bookmaker Massacre in 1992.
No! the police being sectarian?
Apologies???.. no prosecutions ????
If you kill anyone in cold blood and destroy multiple families and lives just say sorry and it's ok. even if you are a body responsible for keeping the peace for the whole population. The worst part is this is still going on.
Tell us something we dont know
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Nothing has changed, just the name, from RUC to PSNI.
I shouldn't have watched this whilst I'm in bed. I won't be able to sleep with anger now. I can't say I'm surprised by DOBs.
Who know the police would be friendly to the guys fighting against the people bombing them....
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 I actually don't get the point of your snarky comment.
@@L.C.Sweeney typical brit comment,rise above it
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 These were innocent Catholics who were murdered not terrorists. Murder is murder, whether it’s committed by paramilitaries or the fault of the forces of the state.
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 Bombings started when loyalists started attacking women and children. Get a basic education.
Time is is great tool for finding the truth! It's such a pity that it is always too late. An apology, would you go and F*** Off, Just like a normal civilian would be brought to court years later and possibly charged, same should happen here.
I thought that once a cop acts out of oath he is no longer protected due to acting outside his remit?? Fuck apologies it's too late for those. Apologies should happen before the investigation not after it.
The rifle was donated to the imperial war museum?????? 😧
Who actually believes that police are _good people??_
Who do you think actually gives a toss about what you think?
No shit.
Wow, take enough time to investigate? WTF 😒
British rule in Ireland is the superior moral basis from which Britain judges the Kremlin?
Yes. Its why Russia doesn't want to be dominated by the Americans like Britain has been.
This is no surprise.
British colonists out of Uliad. Éire go deo agus Éire saor
End the apartheid state now
No thanks. Northern Ireland is British 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 Your union is collapsing around you
@@eoghancarpenter8546 Ah yes, the failing Union that has been on the verge of "Collapse" for hundreds of years now. Many generations that have been promised the collapse of the union have grown old and died.
Good luck you ridiculous MI5 shill, Northern Ireland is majority Native Irish again now among under 30s in Uliad the SF will win in may and the SNP will take Scotland out of the union next year
Fuck the UK it is over and it will never come back
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 Government in the North collapsed again, Sinn Fein likely to become NI's largest party, Scottish independence on the cards and a government led by the biggest liar and crook to hold office your beloved union is dying
Officially acknowledging this widely known collusion is a major step for the pro-unionist/loyalist anti-republican police force in the six counties, given their majority. Not a significant enough step to be forgiven or trusted, that is still a long way off, but it's at least a start toward healing the injury of state-sanctioned sectarian violence perpetrated by the occupiers of the six occupied counties. So a cautious kudos to them for getting started, how this resolves will have a significant influence on peace in Northern Ireland moving forward. It is a volatile situation to resolve, they've simply tossed gasoline on the embers if they conclude it here with no further action taken. On the other hand if they move forward with prosecutions, the legal process might be seen as malicious targeting and spark more bonfire orange boy riots.
Well said. It confirms what everyone already knew. The UK government, it's army, and police force, were all sectarian terrorists themselves.
These are people in power over the local civilian population and any abuse of that power should be dealt with on a different level.
There should be a system in place where the policing body should be subject to a judicial system that incurs a multiplier in punishment for breaking the law. A ranking system.
For example, if a constable breaks the law, the maximum punishment should be ( 5x times ) greater than that of a civilian. If a sergeant breaks the law the maximum punishment should be ( 10x times) greater than that of a civilian. Etc, etc, etc....
I believe this would lead to an evolution within the policing system, ensuring that the people who joined up to protect and serve, would treat the job as thier life, and not just a job. Because at the end of the day, these peoples decisions affect our lives and they can go home in the evening and eat a cheeseburger with thier kids, regardless of their decisions. The main problem is the wrong type of people sit in these positions of power, and I think a system like this in place, which deals with corrupt cops on a higher scale, would make individuals with corrupt ideas in their heads, think twice.
Collusive behaviour = newspeak
Ah, they said sorry, so it's fine.
I'm called Nelly and my PTSD says no ffs ...
Corruption
Collusion? Never...may as well say Michael Jackson never done the moonwalk 😊
That's a fairly sophisticated dog. My dog only finds murdered rabbits (aka roadkill).
Who caused Princess Diana`s Death ?
Be tough on all crimes!
"Yeah, sorry about that. But don't worry! Lessons will be learned"
News?
I'm not saying they should lock corrupt police officers into General Population of an American prison and tell the homies to "have fun". But I'm not saying they shouldn't.
so you are showing us 30 years old new come what are archives for
Are you really shocked? People know this for years. Soldiers were the same.
Watch No Stone Unturned
Typically British security forces.🇮🇪
Rip 😔😔😔😔
Do people realize this was 20 to 30 years ago and most if not all of the people involved would not be there anymore, maybe dead themselves. I would say look for people involved not the new ones not even born at the time.
Well if they we're in their 20s they would only be around 45-50 today.
Ulster is the land of no surrender
FTP
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Oh dear. Not good. But it's good that the histotical record is being cleared up. This means that Northern Ireland will have a better, more peaceful future of reconciliation compared to places like Israel and the Balkans
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Britain/ England / Westminster’s long long involvement in Ireland has brought so much grief to the peoples of these two small islands ..
The working class from each of the four countries of Ireland , England , Wales and Scotland should be united together against the elites but instead fall for the divide and conquer form of democracy as practiced especially by Westminster ..
Who caused Princess Diana`s death?
@@dungnguyen-vx2sc stop copying and pasting you numpty
So when are you going to overthrow the Anglo-Irish ruling Ireland? The Loyalists working class were fine in their own state, living as they wished, getting benefits from employment and privileged within the state and government. The IRA ruined that, now they talk about overthrowing the elites. What they mean is everybody under republic rule.
@@johnbest4513 Lmao you're acting like the north was just loyalists, What about the 35-45% of the population that were miserable? And the Anglo Irish don't rule Ireland.
What about northern ireland?
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The police apoligised 🤣 dont forget 4 more in ROI
suspense after action, bbc?
Yet they have no problem supporting IRA terrorists... hypocrites in these comments
Why BBC don`t fighting Human rights or Freedom for the British Citizen ?
What do you think they are doing?
How much support have any of these people given to the police in the past…? If there is evidence then produce it and allow the DPP to charge those offenders. If none then the matter surely ends there. It’s so easy to make all sorts of allegations but without substance they are useless. Don’t forget about the other thousands of innocent people murdered by the Iraqi. We can only hope that the same amount of time effort and money is put into those enquires.
It’s all coming out in the wash 😔☝️
I had a nice roast chicken dinner with gravy yesterday evening.
Tis a bit late for apologies lads. You had better get the DUP and loyalists to calm down too before it all kicks off again and the troubles comes to your shores too, again.
have the police been any good at anything recently? every other story if not boris is just about criminality of the police!!!
No shit
We already knew about this. Tiocfaidh ar lá.
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Who cares
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United Ireland
Well Well Well no surprise there! drug fuelled uff hero?!
Here comes some more IRA propaganda
No quarter for planters, no peace for imperialists
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I missed the part where the truth is "propaganda."
thats the BBC reporting and the British apologising...back to your bridge troll...
If the truth is political or false to you, you are delusional
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This woman continues to produce reports after reports with NOT a shred of evidence to put before a court. These reports are only her opinion. We could all do that. If she has evidence against former Police Officers, then produce it and put them before a court where the properly qualified judiciary would decide on it, otherwise what purpose does this latest report serve.
Clearly you were not listening. Evidence was destroyed. There is lots of similar cases. British government had some cheek to call the IRA terrorist when this was their tactics
@@robcar6598 So then, there must be evidence of evidence being destroyed. That being the case then we should surely see former Police being charged at some stage with destroying evidence/perverting course of justice. Without resulting charges following these reports, it’s only a persons opinion. Not trying to be funny or awkward, but that’s my point in this. Let’s get them into the courts where there’s nowhere to hide.
Im an Irish nationalist and I love orangemen 🇮🇪🧤
Thank god the police are finally helping to clear up the IRA terrorists. Long may it continue.
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Who caused Princess Diana`s death ?
@@dungnguyen-vx2sc the timing the date the hour the place all suggest a masonic sacrifice, her soul is not at peace until william gets crowned..she is still here on earth
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