Music Chat: Nasty Comments About This Channel (1)
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- Believe it or not, some people don't like me as a critic--or a person, evidently. Here are some specially juicy bits of vitriol aimed at this channel that you can find in various internet chatrooms.
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You're the only person who does classical music review on youtube at professional level. And there are very few people who would be able to do it, because almost nobody knows and remembers so many recordings. So please, keep on going, this channel is an extremely valuable resource.
Hear hear. Keep on chatting! 😁❤️
I consider Dave more as a Classical CD Ambassador than as a music critic. For all his "assessments" he is mostly spot on, but sometimes I strongly disagree.
Couldn’t agree more 🫡
Very true. I've been listening to classical music since I was 10 years old, inspired by my grandparents player piano, which had mostly classical paper piano rolls. I also liked rock and popular music and that was what I talked to my peers about since anything classical they didn't have a clue about and really didn't want to hear anything about it either. So I just kind of privately enjoyed classical music to myself for most of my life. It just moves me in a way that other music doesn't; "fills that void". Growing up near NYC, we used to get WQXR and WNCN classical music stations; sadly long gone now. My mom used to also listen to muzak at home; uhh well......😒
Indeed few people can have the encyclopedic knowledge of music and recordings that you have. You know the great and the dreadful... and I can't imagine having the patience to listen to the dreadful.
“A critic is one who leaves no turn unstoned.” - George Bernard Shaw
And violinist Isaac Stern always said that he leaves no tone un-Sterned...
The same George Bernard Shaw who revered the composer Hermann Goetz and especially his symphony (in which he was absolutely right btw - if you're into Brahms check his work out)
Bernard Shaw: ‘The Perfect Wagnerite.’
@classicallpvault8251 He was wrong about Brahms himself. Also about Gilbert and Sullivan. One of the privileges of a long life was being able to admit he was wrong about both decades later.
In my (unrevealed) creative business I have read some relatively hurtful things about myself, but none quite as excoriating as your last example.
a) I applaud you HOTLY for being confident and thick-skinned enough to pass on to us some of these personalised, trollish rants and be able to laugh at them;
b) Carry on blathering. It's the combination of blather, knowledge and critical expertise that delights.
Many thanks (from Brexitland)
Please do not change. We love you exactly as you are. We want the entire package ramblings included. More power to you. Keep calm and carry on musical criticism.👍
I am 65 years old, love classical music and have read many critics. For me, in my humble opinion, you are a godsend, with whom I do not always agree, of course, but with whom I agree many times. I must thank you for my having listened to wonderful composers, compositions, interpreters and performances. I have nothing but words of gratitude for you. My only complaint is that you, my dear Dave, will ruin me even if it is a nice and happy way to ruin me.
Greetings from Catalonia!
I'm 62 years old and all I can do is agree 100% with what you've written here! Thanks.
I’m 54 years old and I am from Tehran Iran ❤️🤍💚 and I agree 💯percent.
Heck, I'm two years old and I agree with @andreuibars
I personally love everything about this channel...the marvelous, the horrible, and the blather...please keep them coming!!!
Exactly! If people don't want the blather, they can read the reviews on the website.
As a former teacher once said, "if you don't have enemies, it's probably because you have no character."
I discovered you a few months ago while reading the comments section of a Facebook post where some guy said some nasty things about you (and other people were like, "Hurwitz? Who is that?"
Then, out of curiosity, I looked you up on TH-cam and here am I, totally addicted to your wonderful videos. English is not my mother tongue but even if it were, I'm sure I still wouldn't be able to find words worthy enough to thank you for the sheer amount of knowledge and entertainment you provided me.
I told a friend of mine about you; he's the smartest guy I know personally, a diplomat, a polyglot and an outstanding amateur musician (having played first violin in the Orchestre de la Suisse Romande in a few occasions). He didn't know about you but now, like me, he's hooked.
Whatever motivates you to do what you do, please don't stop!
Thank you very much!
Like many of your other subscribers who also use their real names, I was reading your reviews in print and online for years before you launched your TH-cam channel. The latecomers who know nothing of your background (or haven't read any of your excellent books) would do well to educate themselves in that regard. Agreement or disagreement with you is irrelevant. I enjoy your videos daily because they are entertaining, informative and share with viewers your love of classical music. Thanks for your efforts making them, for which most of us are appreciative.
Dave, you've been a part of my listening life for more than 20 years. Your taste in music aligns perfectly with mine. I've bought countless CDs based on your recommendations, and I truly admire your expertise and knowledge. You are a legend. Take care.
Dave you are the greatest music critic I’ve ever encountered, in any genre. I honestly don’t even think of you as a critic, but as a teacher. You have changed my life in terms of classical music appreciation and knowledge. Thank you, and please don’t change.
Dave, you are doing a wonderful service to the classical music community. Keep up the great job. I have expanded by listening choices and music collection because of you. Szell box was just one of many that I bought after hearing your comments.
I think your channel is a great thing. Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I don’t, of course, but it is never anything but fascinating. The problem in the world of social media is that people become furious with anyone who doesn’t agree with them, rather than listening to someone else’s views and making a considered counter-argument in good faith.
That comment on social media hits the point.
Having read a few of the Reddit comments, it also seems like a lot of people have too much of their identity tied up with what they like.
As someone who wrote a great deal of criticism (music, film, literature, even some video games) in a past life and who was weird enough to grow up reading a lot (and being fascinated by) criticism--my earliest introduction was the snippet movie reviews in the back of our TV Guide--I've come to realize that the value of critics is in these qualities:
1. They turn us on to things we didn't know existed, but end up being glad to have found thanks to the critic.
2. They add to our knowledge of what's being criticized, either via contextual/historical information or in the form of insightful observation, turning us on to aspects we may have missed.
3. They eloquently express a certain view point on what they're criticizing so that others, who are less eloquent, can say "yes, that's what I feel as well."
4. They act as a guide through whatever medium is being criticized, so that people don't feel hopelessly lost exploring on their own.
5. They act as a conduit for discussion about what is being criticized.
I think Dave embodies all of these qualities. Too many people think criticism begins and ends with opinionated assessment, followed by an "if I agree with the critic they're good, if I disagree with a critic they suck." Of course there's plenty of bad criticism out there, which usually consists of nothing but opinion vomiting, but it's pretty easy to distinguish the good from the bad if you know what you're looking for. Anyone thinking Dave is a bad critic immediately tells me they know nothing about the art (and yes, it's an art) of criticism.
I have long admired the way you handle comments on your channel. You respond to many people’s questions and thoughts. You are also direct and unwavering in your convictions when someone opposes your view, all without being bitter. I find that impressive. I wonder where you find the time, especially when posting so many thoughtful videos.
Dave, your channel got me into Bruckner and Messiaen. It got me to appreciate how great Zubin Mehta, Ozawa, Jochum and the Czech Philharmonic are. It got me to a deeper appreciation of Debussy and Prokofiev. I’m a more critical listener because of your channel.
Every critic is listening for specific things and the best thing about your channel and surveys is that you’re able to put in easily digestible terms what makes recording x special/different/worth hearing.
My two complaints are that there still hasn’t been a repertoire video on Franz Schmidt Das Buch mit Sieben Siegeln or a review of the new Seattle Messiaen Des Canyons aux Étoiles….which I wouldn’t have listened to in the first place if it wasn’t for the “if I could only choose one piece by Messiaen” video.
Thanks for everything you do Dave!
Are you kidding me? This is my favorite channel. I check here every morning and night to see if a new video has dropped. The Dvorak Symphony No. 9 recommendation alone was priceless let alone all of the Dave's Faves videos. For someone who only remotely knew classical music this channel has been so valuable and life changing. Anyone who criticizes this channel must be nuts a bot or both.
David, you are BRILLIANT!!!! Even at almost 70 with a PhD in musicology, I continue to learn new things from you. As I look back on almost 50 years of musical education, I would have KILLED to had your videos in my early studies of musical repertoire! Keep up the EXCELLENT work!
Dave Hurwitz - The BEST -
I have learned more about Classical Music since I found this channel than in
all the previous decades of listening and collecting - Thank You Dave Hurwitz
Dave’s is my favorite TH-cam channel because it has significantly expanded my appreciation of Western Classical music. While I’ve been a Classical fan and CD collector for decades now, my interests had become too narrowly focused on late-Renaissance and Baroque music. Listening to Dave’s criticism and recommendations has opened up new worlds for me. Now it’s a delight to be able to find all sorts of used CD bargains of great performances of standard repertoire. Plus, I’m always in awe of the ex tempore style of these videos, presumably based on a “photographic” musical memory. Respect!
I found this channel about 2 weeks ago and it has reignited my love for collecting. I was very ill for some seven years and I found that going to a local half price books store and buying clearance CDs. I got a CD cleaner and hand organized a 2,000 Disc collection. But I had more or less stopped collecting. But thanks to your help, I am blessed to find that I did get many great discs and now I am back in the collecting game.
No matter what you do, if you do it well, you will get the nay-sayers and whiners.
I wish you the best, and thank you for your fun and good and insights!
And if people are crabby about the length of your videos, don’t they realize that they can just move the slider forward until you hold up the disc?
People…the best and worst thing about life.
Your channel is a treasure! I never buy any music recordings without checking your channel first! You have a way of describing music that I can easily understand and relate to. I make lists of your selections for reference. I am 79 years old. I have seen Rubinstein, Van Cliburn, Eugene Ormandy, and Rise Stevens in live performance in my youth thanks to the Community Concert Series (don't know if that still exists). To test your knowledge of violinists, I once lived in the home of Grisha Goluboff! I was so happy when I discovered your channel, my previous guide for buying music was the old Martin Bookspan Basic Repertoire, but it only included orchestral works. You cover all genres of classical music! Keep up the great work, love your knowledge and humor equally!!
I find your rambles always go through interesting landscapes and lead us back to the main viewpoint; in fact you do speak - extempore - in coherent paragraphs, in an entertaining way. It's just a matter of taste (some people absolutely can't bear reading Proust or Laurence Sterne or Herman Melville). The mystery is why people who 'despise' you spend so much of their time doing it. You've guided me, I think very congenially, to many recordings which I wouldn't otherwise have known, for which many thanks.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. You're the best, Dave.
I've been reading your reviews since 2000, and still am as well as watching these videos. Just keep doing what you have been--its a valuable viewpoint.
This is the best classical music recordings channel on TH-cam hands down. It has enriched my collection immeasurably, so Dave keep it up! We love it...
Dave, I admit that I don't always agree with you, but I also must admit that watching your videos over the past few years has pushed me to listen much more critically to recordings. That alone has opened up so many interesting and new avenues of music appreciation I never could have anticipated. So, keep up the great (and controversial) work! And THANK YOU!
Dave, your cats are more knowledgeable about classical music than most people. Keep up the good work and keep us educated and laughing!
David your views are very informative I've enriched my music collection thanks to you. Like a good mechanic who knows the intricate details of a car engine you do the same with the music and we're more informed because of you. Keep on.
Im a big fan of your reviews , I look for them every day , some i like some more or less ,others i really don't like at all , but the main reason I watch them is that always i have a great and enjoyable time watching them , and by the way speaking of out of the route places Im from Venezuela ,now living in Hong Kong as an expat , thank you and keep giving us your wonderful musical views
I am happy to have found this channel and bought a lot of CDS and LPS following your recommendations! So far I have not been disappointed! Keep it on!
I enjoy your channel very much. Thank you for your work. Your attitude is perfect, and how can I not admire you greatly when you called Ned Rorem the greatest living composer a year or two before his death! Thank you for all your positive comments about my favorite composer, and much more! God bless you.
I have learned and discovered so much classical music and recordings following Dave’s channel from the very beginning. Sometimes I don’t always like some of the recordings recommended, but it is the fun and joy of exploring the music.
I am especially grateful for exposing me to the world of Dvorak. Prior to this channel I was only familiar with the cello Concerto. I also bought his Dvorak and Sibelius books which are valuable references for understanding their music.
Thank you Dave 🙏
The rants are the best part. Please keep them coming!
I doubt that anyone complaining about your "blathering" has such laser-focus precision in extemporaneous speech. They evidently expect scripting or heavy editing from what is self-evidently and obviously a casual chat. That form of presentation is precisely WHY I watch this channel. No fast nonsense or graphics or words half cut off from breathless edits. Change nothing. Signed, real name Kevin.
Your extemporanious writing is a joy to read, and of course you're right on target. Dave is one of the most effortlessly articulate people I've ever heard speak!
Please continue to digress from the subject. I remember my history teacher at school often digressed and it was almost always the most interesting part of the lesson. To talk around things is not necessarily a bad thing, as it often provides context. Anyway, your digressions and observations make me smile, which makes listening to you a pleasurable and entertaining experience.
I really love your videos! It’s so refreshing learning and hearing about classical music in such lighthearted and candid way. I often find myself giggling at your comments, even if I don’t agree with every single opinion you put out there, it’s still very enjoyable to hear someone speak about classical music so freely and with such enthusiasm (it makes classical music so much more approachable ). Music is mostly subjective, not everybody likes the same thing as one does, but that’s what’s fun about commentary, you get to hear what others think and use it to solidify your own views. So keep up the good spirit!
Your site is incredibly useful. I often find new works that were totally unknown to me and this has refreshed my listening. I have a very tight budget and so it's great to listen to your top 10 or so choices on-line and then settle on one ... or two at a pinch. Formerly I would just rely on a big name conductor/ orchestra combination. Every purchase I make is now more informed and more likely to be taken off the shelf. I love that you are reviewing for enjoyable listening and not for historical interest. You have reinvigorated my enjoyment of classical music. Thanks Dave.
Dave, while I don't agree with absolutely everything you say on the channel, I find your taste, honesty, bracingly existential approach to music listening (which can be summed up as 'just find what you like in it,' and don't worry about any external standards of taste), and most of all, your encyclopedic knowledge of classical music and discography wedded to infectious enthusiasm, to be a wonderful resource. Keep on truckin'!!
BTW, over the past three years or so of following your channel, and before and during that time, the Classics Today site (to which I've been subscribed for some years), I've learned a hell of a lot about the music I love, and have discovered well over a couple hundred splendid recordings (and some "less-known" composers) I might not otherwise have found. Thank you so much for all that you do in these domains!
Your channel combines two of my greatest passions - music and cats!
Dave also adds humor to make his concoction irresistible.
Your splendid sense of humor continues to shine through no matter what the topic may be. Cool!
Dave i love your channel! I don't always agree with you but its great to listen to another insightful classical music fan.
I really appreciate your channel, your suggestions for recordings have definitely put me in contact with some great performances and repertoire that I did not know about--this is a real asset for those of us without your encyclopedic knowledge of recordings. You also seem to have a real sense of integrity--no matter what you may think of a musician on a personal level, you seem to give an honest assessment of their work. Those whose opinions differ always have the option to upload a rebuttal.
Each to his own. I learn something new in every video...and I've been involved with classical music prrofessionally for more than 50 years.
I just discovered your channel recently and as a music lover of over 40 years it is now my go to source for the in depth and intelligent insights.
I can sincerely say your comments have the weight of a person who has a love and great knowledge of their subject and now is one of the highlights of my week.
Awesome, thank you!
I have appreciated your opinions and insights for many years. It has inspired so much rewarding listening. Keep up the great work!
Listening to you has broadened my interest, introduce me to new repertoire, reminded me about repertoire I’ve forgotten and introduced me to new artists who I’ve come to love because of you… and with the availability of so much on streaming services I’ve been able to listen to so many versions of things you recommend, or loathe , without it costing an extra penny over my monthly Qobuz sub… keep on rambling…
Dave, I have enjoyed and discovered many recordings because of your of your invariably insightful videos.
Thank you for giving so much to so many of us.
David, I enjoy your expressive vernacular. Anyone with musical training and extensive experience listening to classical music recognizes your uncommon depth of knowledge and thorough familiarity with the repertoire. You know your shit, bottom line, and can articulately support your opinions in a fun, convivial manner. More power to you!
I love your channel and I love your reviews. I love exploring and listening to your recommendations. 😊
Hey, a man who loves cats can't be all bad...
RIGHT ON 😁
Appreciated your honest self-appraisal with the 2nd comment (from Uruguay), and LOVED the insane, mad-scientist laugh after ..."here..where I can control the discourse!" I was reminded of a round-table discussion I once had with local conductors, where repertoire selection was discussed, and one of the guys said "I program what the audience wants to hear!" My response was something like: "with the vast amount of fabulous repertoire available, how can an audience really know what they want to hear?? The same 25 "top ten" works repeatedly? I'll "help" them to discover what they want to hear...(in other words, I'LL control the discourse/repertoire, and they'll end up liking it).
Thus, the orchestra became known as the place where you could discover delightful, unfamiliar gems....much like your own channel, where I've encountered many unfamiliar (to me), fascinating composers. LR
More power to you Dave. Your encyclopedic knowledge of works, artists & recorded performance history has created an online treasure trove of gargantuan proportions. Your sometimes eccentric but often hilarious diversions provide discerning criticism with added entertainment value. The ironies & bursting the egos of the conceited are nearly always my favourite parts. Norrington being just one side splitting example. Keep up the good work in the knowledge that the majority of us will hardly ever be able to keep up with you!
I am in awe of your vast knowledge and experience in classical music. You reviews are incisive and relevant. Please continue doing what you do in the way do it!
I think you're doing a great service. I have always found your reviews informing and your comments interesting, and have added so many great recordings to my collection based on your suggestions. I would'nt bother about those negative reviews.
Considering that your mode is extemporaneous in these videos, I think you are admirably organized, succinct, and coherent in your thinking and presentation. Exemplary, in fact. I could never speak extemporaneously this well, so often, and most people couldn't. Keep it up, Dave! Your opinions, humor, and depth of knowledge are invaluable. I've learned a lot from your videos.
I've been collecting recordings and reading music criticism for over 50 years and have always gotten a sense of which reviewer's opinions more often than not align with my taste in music. Yours and mine seem to align quite frequently and I trust your opinion. Your reviews have made me listen to many marvelous recordings that I would otherwise not have sought out and to delve into some repertoire that I've neglected. You have broadened my horizons in music and I thank you for the many gems you have recommended. If you called this column Music 101 I would quickly sign up for Music 102 also. And I will keep listening.
I've gotta tell this......believe it or don't, I once heard Busoni's Sonatina "Ad Usum Infantis" IN AN ELEVATOR.
Dave, your channel is simply invaluable as a resource for record collectors. I don't agree all the time but to me you've validated so many of my favourite performers and performances and provided the impetus to purchase so many cds that will take me years (at my current rate) to encode. May this show run and run.
I watch videos on your channel because I respect your taste and agree with many of your opinions. There are some videos I watch over again because I plan to listen to all or almost all of the specific pieces by the specific conductors you mention in the videos. I like your sense of humor and wit. I look forward to your videos because, even though I know some things about classical music and have searched for things on my own both popular and obscure, there’s no way I can find out everything and there’s not enough time in each day to listen to all that I want to hear but I appreciate your talking about artists/conductors/works etc. because your comments quite often help me figure out if I want to invest a huge amount of time on an artist’s works or a small passing quick listen. 🙂👍
"It's all good healthy fun" summarizes music criticism and my response to it. The fun comes about when a critic's enthusiasm for a particular piece or a particular performance unknown to me is so infectious that I have to check it out for myself.
In the marketplace of ideas your contributions have been and continue to be positive and extremely worthwhile.
I just discovered your channel, and have been on a week-long binge, getting educated in musical concepts, thanks to your intelligent speech.
Welcome and enjoy!
I think you do a great service, and i appreciate that you are honest about how you feel about what you are speaking about, whether you enjoyed a recording or not, and that's the whole point. Respect.
I really enjoy watching and listening to your insights to classical music and recordings. You cannot please everyone and no matter how good and professional you are, someone will say nasty things. I am sure you received a lot more positive comments than nasty ones. Please continue your great works, ignore the nasty comments, and may be get comforts on the every one of us who appreciate and enjoy watching your videos. I used to be upset about you talking about your cat too much. I watch your videos to learn about classical music not about your cat. But then I watched your video about your cat passed away. You looked so sad in the video and I was really touched. Now your cat doesn't bother me any more.
Your channel is fabulous. It's an outlet for my deep love of classical music and you have expanded and enriched my knowledge of works and musicians. Martinon and his gorgeous Ravel/Debussy recordings have been the biggest revelation. You're also very funny and I count on at least one laugh in each of your videos. You and I don't agree on everything, but diversity of taste and opinion is.a very good thing! Keep doing what you're doing, Dave!
A person who makes a criticism that no one should care about what you have to say thinks that we should care what HE has to say? If so, it seems like he's stupid for listening and giving it any thought, and wasting his time sharing his nastiness. There are so many other videos to choose from! For those of us who enjoy hearing about quality recordings we may have missed, you are a gem. And it's nice to hear when you approve of something I already like. Thanks, and keep it up!
People usually don’t care what you know until they know you care about them. You’ve saved me so much wasted time and money by making such excellent recommendations…. Thank you for that. Also, you make me laugh… that’s why I keep coming back for more.
IMHO David Hurwitz is a national treasure. Admission: he's an old friend of mine but haven't seen him since 1987.
I’ve learn so much from your videos, thank you for continuing to make them. People that comment negatively are irrelevant. Your knowledge and enthusiasm for the subject matter really make your videos shine. I have very limited knowledge of classical music but attend the concerts that the International Symphony Orchestra put on in Michigan. I’ve yet to see the Detroit Symphony Orchestra but plan to later this year.
Thank you for creating and please don’t stop doing so!
With the advent of AI-ridden slop channels taking over this platform, it's a breath of fresh air to watch your videos, Dave. I love the fact that you speak extemporaneously, and the fact that at any moment there could be a kitty sighting is an added bonus. lol I'm going to 'keep on listening '.
Yes, AI is my favourite bugbear right now.
Your channel is vastly entertaining, and you have provided me with a lot of wonderful information about recordings and classical music. I don't value just what you say (which may or may not match my opinion of a piece, composer, conductor, orchestra or soloist), but how you say it. That is why one reads criticism rather than going to a lecture, for instance. We want the critic's verve, personality, humour, and even his unreasonableness to shine through. I even laugh when you bash Celibidache, whose work I have loved for years.
Please keep up the good work. It is greatly appreciated.
Critics schmitiks! If you have none, you are not doing your job! If you have some, you are! Began listening to you during COVID lockdown here in NZ. Still listen daily. No stopping ME! You have helped me make quantum leaps in my appreciation and understanding of classical music. I am forever indebted for that. And you are funny to boot!
I just realized how funny it is that this video is about critics of a critic, and now we're critiquing the critics of the critic. I hope someone criticizes me next.
I would love to have blogs like yours about "modern music", progrock or jazz f.e...there are thousands of wannabes here on youtube, but noone comes close to your quality comments about classical works. I always recommand your channel on my small german spoken channel about music in general. You are legend, Dave! Thank you for all your work - Reto
Thank you!
I enjoy your posts. I can understand that a performer or conductor who has spent a long time learning their craft might have touchy feelings, not to mention CD producers and orchestras who are spending a lot of money in a niche enterprise. Still, we all know that criticism is just one man's educated opinion; and that the type of people who are interested in it are basically classical music lovers who love the genre. So, keep doing what you're doing; and let's all keep this art form alive.
I find your extraneous comments really interesting and informative. It gives a unique narrative and context to what is too often a rather dry and stuffy discourse. How dull a world it would be if we all agreed all the time.
Personally, I love the occasional digressions in Dave's talks - as often as not they prove to be surprisingly germane to the issue (somehow), and they are always great fun.
hey Dave , I really enjoy your comments they are fun and entertaining and come from a love of music and wanting to pass on information and keep standards high. You have helped me get into Nielsen which I think is terrific and sits well in my Autistic brain and if I didn't like your talks there is always the off button!!!! Keep doing what you do, its great.
I've noticed through participation in various Classical Music chats over the years including this one, that classical music seems to attract a certain type of particularly vile and obnoxious character who revels in personal and ad hominem attacks on other people, whether the host or a person like myself posting a comment. I'm not sure why this is, but there are some very disagreeable people out there and I am learning to avoid them if at all possible in my comments and replies. Keep up the great work, Dave!
Actually, that seems to be par for the course on the internet.
Don't ever change Dave! I love your reviews...especially the salty and sassy ones. In the words of Curtis Mayfield, "Keep on Pushin'"!
Great video! 🎉
I’ve been watching you for sometime now and I am getting lots of very useful information.
And you’re a hoot in general. And I love the cats!
People who complain are just jealous of your success and knowledge. And some of them of course it’s worse than that.
Hey David, i really admire your knowledge and love for music, especially your “best recs of Shostakovich symph” where you delve into the forms of the symphonies, and that’s given you got some heavy takes on my father (some rather famous conductor) Good luck with your work, have a good one
Forget the prats that make the pathetic personal remarks - you do the best you can, a LOT of people (including myself) enjoy your presentations very much. I certainly love classical music, but know so little about it that I really benefit from your mentions let alone likes/dislikes of any one composer/work in particular. This friendly channel has really helped by inspiring and yes 'accompanying' me as I am building-up my classical music collection, which is very small. Now I'm alone after losing my Wife I have turned towards classical-music more, and this channel and your friendly and cheerful manner are helping me enjoy my music now, with you and your channel as company along the way as it were. I never fail to be inspired to try a new (to me) piece of classical-music after watching one of your excellent videos. I can read dry facts, histories etc of Classical-Music from thousands of sources, but there are not thousand of sources (in this case video of course) that enthuse, cheer and encourage me as your obvious warmth, enthusiasm and ease of manner do. Keep it up, ignore the berks out there, they've nothing better to do, I feel sorry for them.
Roger Norrington has to be behind some of these comments 😅
Love your channel. I don't always agree with your fav pics but that is always a matter of personal taste. Just keep doing what you're doing.
"Ineducated"! As Ralph Wiggum said, "Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
As much as I adore Brahms 1, there simply are times I'd rather hear someone knowledgeable & engaging talking about Brahms 1 recordings than listen to the Symphony for the 200th time. Maybe I'm crazy.
By the way, you still "owe" (I know you don't owe us anything) us a Brahms 2 repertoire video. 😉
Thanks for joining us, Dave. Keep on talking!
I know. I'm saving Brahms 2, but I'll get to it.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Maybe the symphony I most loved when I first encountered it (in 1965 or so, guided by Tovey). Can you revive my enthusiasm by recommending outstanding recordings?
You're fun Dave. I'm sorry you get such comments as those you just mentioned. You bring a little something to my life which I appreciate. Keep listening!
I come for the "blather" and stay for the reviews. I look forward to a new playlist to rival Canzicrans': "Mean Girl Tweets."
Your channel is wonderful for bringing enthusiasm and attention to the music, the composers, the recordings and performances -- and the performers.
Admittedly I am sorry that you don't seem to understand Beethoven 7th's first movement . . . but one can't have everything.
Your negative reviews are actually very descriptive. I’ve bought at least three box sets based on your negative reviews, because even though you didn’t like them, your descriptions of them sounded interesting to me.
Count me as one who adores your channel and has learned a great deal from it -- about music, the history that surrounds the music, and those who perform it. This is true even when I might disagree with one judgment of yours or another. I'm embarrassed to say that I have tried to change my TH-cam ID to my name, Wesley Smith, but am rather limited when it comes to these things. The important thing, however, is to thank you for your terrific work.
Sometimes, people just trash others because they have nothing better to do. One of the big reasons why I trust you as a critic is because you at least bring the receipts. Once in a while, I might go listen to excerpts from a recording here on TH-cam just to see if it really was that bad. And I often find that you were right!
That last one was a beauty, Dave! Much as I disagree with you at times, I consider you to be a haven of interesting, arresting, entertaining and fruitful comment and information. It's so good to see that you actually feed on these moronic (yet laugh-out-loud) comments. Onward and upward! (or whatever direction you choose) 🙂
It doesn't matter how you present your stuff - there would always be people who will be nasty. In my experience in the same situation as you, this does not come from any logical motivation. It comes from envy, many of these people simply want to destroy you. I applaud your confidence and your fortitude. I would ignore these comments altogether, would not give them a thought. I would not underestimate people's stupidity and capacity for evil. When I need a recommendation I watch you, no one else. You are doing a much better job then most reviewers out there. You don't need to apologize or admit that you are not perfect.
Thank you. I never underestimate the capacity of people for evil or ignorance, but I do enjoy laughing at it now and then.
@@DavesClassicalGuide ignorance can be theoretically remedied by learning, possibly accidental or forced - stupidity is a congenital condition that is currently not curable.
'A critic is a man who knows the way but can't drive the car'. Kenneth Tynan
A lousy conductor is a person who can drive the car but doesn't know the way.
LOL!
You don´t have to be a chef to be able to tell the soup is oversalted
Dave is a critic who knows the way and can also drive the car, but he chooses to focus more on "directions," as there are a multitude of drivers -- and some are not that hot.
"A musicologist is a man who can read music but can't hear it" - Sir Thomas Beecham.
I came for the music recommendations. I stayed for the blather.
“Ineducated” - I literally laughed out loud!
Keep on rambling and blathering, Dave. I love it!
Obviously those comments that David read are unfair and ad hominem in the extreme. This channel is an incredible resource and a wealth of insight and information. I have learned a tremendous amount and have been entertained to the same degree. I do not pretend to appreciate every variance of performance that David does or even notice them much of the time. If David's attentiveness to every performance is a 10, I am at maybe a 4. I'm more influenced by the sound of the recording (dry with a lot of mids and highs versus round, bottom-heavy and lush registers more with my sense of a recording than perhaps the performance). I notice variances in tempo probably more than any other variable David tends to discuss. But I don't have strong opinions about what "works" and what "doesn't."
I'm amused sometimes by Dave's pet peeves when it comes to certain conductors he tends to love (Manfred Honneck, say, or Charles Mackerras) and those he tends not to love (Simon Rattle). I'm sure they are good opinions though in a blind listening I probably couldn't identify who is who.
Above all Dave listens intently to dozens of performances of a piece so I don't have to. Listening to a work three or four times (to get a good impression) of ten different performances of Mahler's Seventh (to pick one) would take like 40 hours of concentrated listening. And that's just one piece. Thank you Dave for all you do. Whether we agree with you or not.
I absolutely adore that you have a sense of humor about these criticisms of your criticism.
I had to wheel this one out : ""There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.""
I'll always drop everything for a quote from dear Oscar.
OK, hands--who here is old enough to remember the heyday of the audiophile/music magazines like Stereo Review and High Fidelity? Back then, SR offered its classical reviewers the chance to vent a bit and name, in two successive issues, "Ten Composers I Love", followed by "Ten Composers I Hate". Naturally, it's the "I Hate" entries that I remember best. On Wagner: "I know he was a genius. I just hate that he happened to music." Or, on Bellini: "My idea of a LONG evening is spending it with the sighing partisans of "Norma". On Puccini: "When I hear Puccini, I get an almost olfactory sensation, as if I had just run over a skunk.". Well, I love Puccini, but I didn't feel the need to swear out a warrant for the critic's arrest. Hey: If you don't like what Dave does, why watch him? (By the way: that's my real name.)
I'm fairly old (75) and subscribed to both back in the day, along with several others long since defunct. (My real name, too.)
Gotcha beat by two years. @@leestamm3187
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I subscribed to HF from the late 60s and remember in college going down to the basement stacks and reading all of the bound volumes from 1951 on when I was supposed to be working on assignments.
Their critics could be wrong as when Alfred Frankenstein dismissed the world premiere recording of Shostakovich's Cello Concerto 1 (Rostropovich/Ormandy) with a three line review calling the work dull, forgettable and trivial and blowing off the overside 1st Symphony as "overexposed "
Can't win 'em all.
Benjamin Britten was “sickened by the cheapness and emptiness of Puccini's music.” He said: “What makes Puccini a greater composer of operas than, in my humble opinion, a great composer, is that he knows how long it takes a person to cross the room.”